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NOTICE OF MEETING
The City of Lake Elmo
Planning Commission will conduct a meeting on
Monday, February 25, 2008, at 7:00 p.m.
AGENDA
1. Pledge of Allegiance
2. Approve Agenda
3. Approve Minutes
a. January 28, 2008
4. Public Hearings
a. None
5. Business Items
a. FNMA Updates to Floodplain Map
b. Accessory Building Setbacks in Zoning Districts
c. 2008 Commission Meeting Schedule
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6. City Council Updates
a. February 19 - 2008 Planning Commission Work Plan and Direction on Sign
Code Update
b. February 19 — Interim Use Permit at 10240 Stillwater Blvd N - approval
c. February 19 — Comprehensive Park Plan
7. Adjourn
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City of Lake Elmo
Planning Commission Meeting
Minutes of January 28, 2008
Chairman Ptacek called to order the meeting of the Lake Elmo Planning Commission at
7:00 p.m. COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Armstrong, Fliflet, Helwig, Lyzenga,
McGinnis, Pelletier, Ptacek, Roth, and Van Zandt. STAFF PRESENT: Planning
Director Klatt and Planner Matzek.
Agenda
Commissioner Lyzenga asked that a conference update be added under Informational
Items.
M/S/P, Helwig/Roth, to approve the agenda as amended. Vote: 9:0.
Minutes — January 14, 2008
M/S/P, Helwig/Pelletier, to approve the minutes as presented. Vote: 8:0. McGinnis
abstained.
Public Hearing: Oakdale Gun Club CUP Amendment
Planning Director Klatt gave a background on the conditional use permit, the 1998
resolution for the operations on the site, and the proposed amendment request. He said
the applicant is requesting two alterations; the first is a structure to cover to an existing
range and the second is an addition to an existing operations building. He said staff is
recommending approval of the application with conditions.
Tom Tousignant, Member of Oakdale Gun Club
Mr. Tousignant said he provides firearm training at the site and there are times when
safety training occurs and displaces noisier firearms onto uncovered ranges. He said that
the proposed structure to cover the range would provide noise abatement and additional
room for covered shooting. He said the building expansion would relieve scheduling
conflicts for indoor safety training classes and would not require much grading.
Commissioner Van Zandt asked what percentage of noise reduction would occur with the
addition of the structure over the range.
Jerry Marah, Building and Grounds Director at Oakdale Gun Club
Mr. Marah said it should reduce the noise by 30 to 50 percent. He said they have had
difficulties getting the sound meters to work on the southern property boundary due to the
highway noise, but have had readings of 65 to 70 db.
Commissioner Fliflet asked if covering the existing range would extend the season.
Mr. Tousignant said there are no plans to extend the times or dates available for shooting.
Commissioner Pelletier asked what are the current the hours of operation.
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Terri Williams, Vice President of Oakdale Gun Club
Ms. Williams said members are allowed to shoot at 8 a.m. until 30 minutes before sunset,
year round. She said there are more restrictive times for the public and limitations on the
time of the year.
Mr. Tousignant said the proposed building would have additional noise abatement and
safety characteristics such as heavy vinyl hanging from the ceiling to the ground along
the south side of the structure and three foot wide swaths of conveyor belt material inside
the structure.
THE CHAIRMAN OPENED THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 7:41 P.M.
Warren Schmidt, 3240 Lake Elmo Ave N
Mr. Schmidt said he has lived in his house for thirty two years and has noticed in the last
six months that the noise has increased.
Mr. Marah offered to go to their property to address their concern.
Theresa Schmidt, 3240 Lake Elmo Ave N
Mrs. Schnudt asked if the covering of the range would increase the use of other
uncovered ranges. She asked if the police department has a contract to practice at the
location.
Mr. Tousignant responded that if the additional range were covered, it would reduce the
number of users on uncovered shooting ranges.
Ms. Williams said that the police rent the area to practice.
THE CHAIRMAN CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 7:53 P.M.
M/S/P, Armstrong/ Helwig, move to recommend approval of the Conditional Use Permit
amendment. Vote: 9:0.
Commissioner Pelletier asked if the property owned by the gun club to the east had any
restrictions or if it could be sold in the future.
Planning Director Klatt said that the property is guided for public facilities so a
Comprehensive Plan amendment would be needed for future potential development.
Business Item: 2008 Work Plan
Planning Director Klatt provided a revised work plan with assigned priorities.
Commissioner Fliflet said there was room for improvement on implementing the work
plan. She asked staff to consider the length of an agenda and to consider holding off on
items if there is only one item on an agenda.
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Chairman Ptacek said that the commission often does not see what else staff has to work
on, but that commissioners have the option to bring something forward if an item is not
being addressed.
M/S/P, Van Zandt/Helwig, move to recommend forwarding the work plan to the City
Council. Vote: 9:0.
Business Item: Election of Officers
Chairman Ptacek asked Planner Matzek if Commissioner Deziel's leave request had been
reviewed by the Council and asked her to let the commission know the council's
decision.
Commissioner Pelletier asked to vacate her position as Vice Chair of the commission.
M/S/P, Helwig/Fliflet, motion to table election of officers until the February meeting.
Vote: 9:0.
Informational Items
Planner Matzek staled that the City Council approved the request to rezone the property
on 55th Street, approved the ordinance amendment for reduction of front yard setbacks,
and tabled the ordinance amendment for the shoreland district at the January 22nd
meeting.
Commissioner Lyzenga said she had attended a community sustainability workshop and
will provide a written report for the commission and council to share the information.
She encouraged commissioners to attend a neighborhood sustainability conference in
March.
Chairman Ptacek said work on the Village AUAR is continuing. He said the council will
be discussing development scenarios on February 4th, although no decisions will be made
then. He stated that a public open house will be held at Oakland Junior High on February
28th
Adjourned at 8:19 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Kelli Matzek
Planner
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ITEM:
REQUESTED BY:
SUBMITTED BY:
REVIEWED BY:
Planning Commission
Date: 2/25/08
Business Item
Item: 5a
Review of Preliminary FEMA Flood Map Changes and Impacts
Planning Department
Kyle Klatt, Director of Planning 4,7
Kelli Matzek, City Planner
SUMMARY AND ACTION REQUESTED:
The Planning Commission is being asked to review a summary of the map changes included with
the preliminary Flood Insurance Study (FIS) and Flood Insurance Rate Map that have been
prepared for Washington County. Since the last Planning Commission meeting, at which the
Commission considered information regarding the role of the City in the FIS and FIRM review
process, Staff has prepared a tabulation of the homes and properties that would be affected by
the updated maps, calculating these changes for each of Lake Elmo's public waters as classified
by the Minnesota DNR. This information should help the City identify the best manner in which to
inform the general public and affected landowners about the revised maps.
BACKGROUND AND TIMING
The attached table attempts to quantify the impact of the proposed maps by identifying the
number of parcels and homes included within the proposed flood zones around each water body
and comparing these numbers to the current maps. The net difference is then provided as a
means to gauge the net changes that are expected. Please note that the table focuses on the net
changes only, not how each specific property is affected. In some cases, properties may have
been added to a flood zone on one portion of a water feature and removed from another area
around this same feature. In this example, the net change may have been zero, even though the
status of individual properties has changed.
Looking at the community as a whole, there will be approximately 360 more properties included in
a flood zone than under the existing flood maps for Lake Elmo. On the other hand, the updated
maps will, overall, reduce the number of homes in flood zones by approximately 18. The total
number of properties affected in one way or another is around 375, with over 40 individual homes
impacted by the changes as well.
Given the large number of both homes and parcels affected, Staff is recommending that the City
conduct a public meeting to share information with the general public. Given the significance of a
primary structure being included within a flood zone, Staff would also recommending sending
individual notices to those particular property owners. The purpose of this meeting could include
the following objectives:
• Provide notice to affected property and homeowners.
• Present information concerning the impact of the proposed changes on property owners.
• Coordinate the public review of information with the Valley Branch Watershed District
(and other Watershed Districts to a lesser extent).
• Describe the process for submitting comments to the updated maps.
• Keep the Planning Commission and public informed about the status of the FIS Study
and Preliminary FIRM.
At a minimum Staff would like to include the DNR and Valley Branch Watershed District as
participants in this meeting depending on their availability and willingness to attend,
The Planning Commission suggested that the next City Newsletter include information on the
updated FIRM and Staff will see that an update is included in the next publication.
ADDITIONAL INFORMATION:
• Please refer the previous Staff memorandum on this matter for additional information
concerning the FIS and FIRM update process.
• The FEMA website at www.floodsmartgov provides excellent information concerning flood
hazards, flood insurance, and related matters.
• Staff will be providing the Planning Commission with a map of Lake Elmo with the a DNR
Public Waters Inventory Number for the various flood zones at its February 25th meeting.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION:
The Planning Commission is not being asked to take any specific action relevant to the
preliminary FIS report and FIRM at this time. Staff will again welcome any comments or
suggestions form the Commission for how to best inform the public about the proposed map
changes.
ORDER OF BUSINESS:
- Introduction Kyle Klatt, Planning Director
Report by staff Kyle Klatt, Planning Director
- Questions from the Commission Chair & Commission Members
ATTACHMENTS:
1, Preliminary FIRM Comparison Table
2. Public Waters Inventory Map (to be distributed at meeting)
City of Lake Elmo Planning Department
Preliminmary FIRM Comparison 2-21-08
Public Water ID
82-370W
82-100W
82-373W
82-101 P
Wetland W of 101P
82-103P
82-385W
82-386W
82-384W
82-387W
82-104P
82-368W
82-369W
82-99W
82-366W
82-367W
82-389W
82-105W
82-392W
82-484W
82-107P
82-316W
82-315W
82-313W
82-314W
82-390W
82-388W
82-391W
82-460W
82-462W
82-463W
82-110W
82-417W
82-418W
82-74P
82-112W
82-106P
82-414W
82-398W
82-108W
82-413W
82-412W
82-416W
82-419W
82-111W
Name
Lake DeMontreville
Lake Olson
Deer Pond
Crombie Pond
Hedges Bog
'Hedges Pond
(Lake Jane
IKlawitter Pond
Clear Lake
Dirks Pond
Berschens Pond
Sunfish Lake
Goetschel Pond
Legion Pond
Eden Park Pond
Downs Lake
Horseshoe Lake
Rose Lake
Lake Elmo
Friedrich Pond
Margaret Lake
PROPOSED CURRENT NET CHANGE
Propeties In Houses in Properties in Houses in
Flood Zone Flood Zone Flood Zone Flood Zone Parcels Houses
3
8
10
68
5
74
14
10
10
10
70
20
13
10
3
5
1
7
1
7
15
9
13
41
4
4
3
9
8
18
18
31
1
2
6
11
79
2
2
9
1
2
3
2
1
0
8
0
31
11
24
0
0
0
0
74
0
0
9
0
0
0
0
0
0
14
0
0
6
0
0
0
0
0
17
19
28
0
0
6
0
62
0
0
0
0
0
3
0
0
0
0
0
10
1
0
0
0
0
0
6
0
0
1
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
6
3
6
0
0
0
0
2
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
3 0
0 0
10 0
37 -10
-6 -1
50 0
14 0
10 0
10 0
10 0
-4 -6
20 3
13 0
1 0
3 0
5 0
1 0
7 0
1 0
7 0
1 0
9 0
13 0
35 0
4 0
4 0
3 0
9 1
8 3
1 -1
-1 -2
3 -6
1 0
2 0
0 0
11 0
17 -1
2 0
2 0
9 3
1 0
2 0
0 0
2 0
1 1
82-117W
82-113W
Bus Park Pond
82-109P
82-116W
82-399W
82-400W
Raleigh Creek
Totals
Kramer Pond
Goose Lake
Eagle Point Lake
Raleigh Creek
NET CHANGES SUMMARY:
Houses Added to Flood Zone
Houses Removed from Flood Zone
1
Properties Added to Flood Zone
Properties Removed from Flood Zone
17 1 0 0 17 1
16 0 10 0 6 0
4 0 0 0 4 0
4 0 4 01 0 0
1 0 0 0 1 0
1 0 0 0 1 0
4 0 0 0 4 0
28 2 34 5 -6 -3
718 22 360 40 358 -18
12
30
375
17
Planning Commission
Date: 2/25/08
Not a public hearing
Item: 5b
ITEM: Accessory Building Setbacks in Zoning Districts
SUBMITTED BY: Kelli Matzek, Planner
REVIEWED BY: Kyle Klatt, Planning Director
SUMMARY AND ACTION REQUESTED:
What are you asked to do?
No action is needed at this time. This item is intended to provide the commission with
information on the existing city code regarding accessory buildings with regards to setbacks
and height restrictions.
Whv is this before the commission? Staff has identified areas of the city code that are silent
on setbacks for accessory buildings and in some instances accessory building height
requirements. At the meeting, staff will bring forward existing individual zoning district
requirements and proposed additional requirements.
This item is included on the 2008 Planning Commission Work Plan.
RECOMMENDATION:
If the Planning Commission is comfortable in moving forward, staff would request direction to
proceed with crafting an ordinance identifying and clarifying setback and height regulations
for accessory buildings for those zoning districts with incomplete or missing requirements.
ORDER OF BUSINESS:
- Introduction Kelli Matzek, Planner
Report by staff Kelli Matzek, Planner
Questions from the Commission Chair & Commission Members
§ 154.033 AG OR A — AGRICULTURAL
(D) Minimum district requirements.
Agricultural Zoning District
Farm Dwellings and Related
Structures and Activities and Non -
Farm Dwellings if not Clustered
Non -Farm
Dwellings and
Activities if
Clustered
Accessory Building or Structure setback from property lines: (Also see §§ 154.092 and 154.093)
Front: 1200 feet
Side (Interior): 200 feet
Rear: 200 feet
Side Corn
er: 200 feet
Arterial Street: 200 feet
Setback for all animal buildings, feedlots,
and manure storage sites shall be as
follows: (Also see §§ 154.092 and 154.093)
Any property line
Any existing well, or residential structure
on the same parcel
Any existing well, or residential structure
on an adjacent or nearby parcel
Any body of seasonal or year-round
surface water
30 feet
10 feet
40 feet
25 feet
50 feet
N/A
200 feet I N/A
50 feet N/A
200 feet N/A
200 feet N/A
§ 154.036 RR — RURAL RESIDENTIAL.
(D) Minimum district requirements.
IRural Residential Zoning District
IAccessory Building or Structure setback from property lines:
IFront: 30 feet
I Side (Interior): 10 feet
Side Corner: 25 feet
Rear: 40 feet
Arterial Street: 50 feet
Accessory Building Height 14 feet
(Also see § 154.083)
Setback for all animal buildings, feedlots, and manure storage sites as follows:
(Also see §§ 154.092 and 154.093)
Any property line 100 feet
Any existing well, or 50 feet
residential structure on the
same parcel
Any body of seasonal or 200 feet
year-round water
Setback for all uses 250 feet
permitted by conditional use
permit from R-1, R-2, R-3, R-
4)
30 feet
10 feet
25 feet
40 feet
50 feet
14 feet
N/A
N/A
N/A
N/A
§ 154.041 R-1 ONE -FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
(C) Minimum district requirements.
R-1 Zoning District
-i Building Setback from Property Lines (Also see § 154.082)
Front: 30 Feet
Side (Interior): 10 Feet
Side (Corner): 25 Feet
Rear: 40 Feet
Arterial Street: 50 Feet
R-1 Zoning District
Accessory Buildings See §§ 154.092 and 154.093
Accessory Building Height (Also see § 154.083) 20 feet
2
§ 154.044 R-2 ONE- AND TWO-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
(C) Minimum district requirements.
R-2 Zoning District
R-2 Zoning District
Building setback from property lines (Also see § 154.082)
Front: 30 Feet
Side (Interior): 10 Feet
Side (Corner): 25 Feet
Rear: 40 Feet
50 Feet
35 Feet
Arterial Street:
Primary Building Height (Also see §
154.083)
Accessory Buildings and Structures
Accessory Building and Structures
Height (Also see § 154.083)
See §§ 154.092 and 154.093
14 feet
§ 154.045 R-3 MANUFACTURED HOME PARK.
(C) Minimum district requirements. Manufactured housing parks shall comply with §§
151.135 through 151.150.
§ 154.047 R-4 MULTI -FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
(C) Minimum district requirements.
[ R-4 Zoning District
Building Setback from property lines (Also see § 154.082)
Front: 50 Feet
Side (Interior): 20 Feet
Side (Corner): 50 Feet
Rear: 50 Feet
Arterial Street: 50 Feet
Building Height (Also see § 154.083) 35 Feet
Accessory Buildings and Structures See §§ 154.092 and 154.093
Accessory Buildings and Structures Height 14 feet
(See § 154.083)
§ 154.048 RE — RESIDENTIAL ESTATES.
(C) Minimum district requirements.
RE Zoning District
(PrincipalPuilding Setbacks from property lines: (Also see § 154.082)
Front: 100 Feet Minimum
Side (Interior): 50 Feet Minimum
Side (Corner): 80 Feet Minimum
Rear: 100 Feet Minimum
Collector/Arterial Street: 150 Feet Minimum
Primary Building Height (Also see § 154.083) 35 Feet
Accessory Buildings and Structures
Accessory Buildings and Structures Height (Also 14 Feet
see § 154.083)
Open Space Preservation District (OP)
Single -Family Townhouse
Maximum Building Height:
Primary Structure
Accessory Structure
Minimum Lot Width:
lh acre lot; 1 acre lot
Maximum Impervious Surface
Coverage:
2 and h stories or 35 feet 2 and Y2 stories or 35 feet
25 feet 1 story or 20 feet, whichever
is less
NA NA
No more than 15% for the
primary structure and
driveway; but up to 17% total
Gross Lot Area when including all other
impervious surfaces NA
Minimum Setback Requirements:
I Front Yard 30 feet 20 feet
iOpen Space Preservation District (OP)
ISingle -Family Townhouse
Side Yard 15 feet or 10% of lot width, 15 feet or 10% of lot width,
whichever is greater whichever is greater
ICorner Lot Front 30 feet 30 feet
I Corner Lot Side Yard 30 feet 30 feet
I Well From Septic Tank 50 feet 50 feet
IMinimum Lot Size:
Individual Well and Septic System 1 acre NA
Individual Well and Communal 1/2acre 8,000 square feet per unit
Drainfield
REQUIRED SETBACKS FROM PROPERTY LINES
Primary Structure
R-1 R-2 RR RE OP Tana Fields 11 Cardinal
Front 30' 30' 30' 100' 30' 30' 25' 30'
Side 10' 10' I0' 50' * * .l
Side Comer 25' 25' 25' 80' 30" * .I.
Rear 40' 40' 40' 100' N N N N
Arterial Street 50' 50' 50' 150' N N N N
Height Restrictions: Maximum Height of Residential Structure: 35'
Maximum Height of Tool/Storage Shed (160 sq. ft. or less): 12'
Well from Septic 50' Septic from property line 10' Septic from Foundation 20'
* OP Side yard setback is 15' or 10% of lot width, whichever is GREATER.
*Tana Ridge Side yard setbacks of 5' on the garage side, and 10' on the living side. ALL LOTS
A -Fields II Side yard setbacks on all lots of 5' on the garage side, 10' on the living side, and front yard setbacks on all
lots of 25'.
' Cardinal Ridge Side yard setbacks are 10' on the living side, 5' on the garage side only when side -loaded garages are
constructed,
Accessory Structure
R-1 R-2 RE RR OP Tana Fields 1l Cardinal.
Front 30' 30' 100' 30' 30' 30' 25' 30'
Side 10' 10' 10' 10' * * A X
Side Corner 25' 25' 25' 30' N N N
Rear 10' 10' l0' 40' N N N
Accessory Structure Height = 20' from grade at peak, and 14' from grade door.
* OP Side yard setback is 15' or 10% of lot width, whichever is GREATER.
*Tana Ridge Side yard setbacks of 5' on the garage side, and 10' on the living side. ALL LOTS
4. Fields II Side yard setbacks on all lots of 5' on the garage side, 10' on the living side, and front yard setbacks on all
lots of 25'.
Cardinal Ridge Side yard setbacks are 10' on the living side, 5' on the garage side only when side -loaded garages are
constructed.
Note: Additional setbacks apply for animals, Shoreland, etc. For an exhaustive list of setbacks and zoning
information, refer to specific sections of the Lake Elmo Municipal Code.
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