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November 27, 1978 Page 5 <br />Peg Mountin, 8287 Red Oak, supports MTC bus service and feels city <br />should encourage MTC service to our residents. She stated that <br />last year she requested a stop sign at Red Oak Drive and County Road J <br />but could not obtain one. Suggested outbound routes travel the Ardan <br />alignment and the inbound routes travel the Red Oak alignment. <br />Otherwise without a stop sign at Red Oak on County Road J the buses <br />will lose time which will merely have to be made up on other areas <br />of the route. <br />David Scales, 8281 Spring Lake Road, has been riding bus daily since <br />route changed. Three other family members ride bus to Minneapolis <br />or school. He wants it to continue on Spring Lake Road. He has not <br />experienced any jarring or other problems. The buses are not driving <br />at an excessive speed. <br />Ms. Bodor, 8289 Spring Lake Road, rides bus daily and they are really <br />full by the time they reach downtown. She feels bus drivers are much <br />safer drivers than average motorist. She has a child who has learned <br />to play in the back yard. At least 4 or 5 residents on Spring Lake <br />Road ride the buses. <br />David Notaro, states that he counts no more than six people are ever <br />on the bus and often only one or two. States buses are very annoying, <br />dirty and hazardous. He specifically moved out of city to get away <br />from buses. Only way for his kids to get to Groveland Park is to travel <br />on Ardan where the buses also travel. <br />Mr. Fauchald, asked whether any complaints about bus traffic at Hillview <br />Park had been received. Administrator Achen stated none had been <br />received to his knowledge, but police department may have. <br />Mrs. Hamilton asked whether Red Oak School ever complained about the <br />buses. Acting Mayor Hodges stated that he imagines the school has just <br />tolerated the situation. <br />Neil Loeding, 5646 Longview Drive, stated that speeding problem might <br />be resolved by improving schedules to allow drivers more time. He <br />suggested that shorter routes, for example between Apache Plaza and <br />Northtown, might reduce need for the high frequency of routes. <br />Mr. Dickson stated that the average MTC system speed is about 13 mph <br />so lower speed limits would be acceptable. He stated that shorter <br />routes, as suggested, are not very feasible when most riders' needs <br />are to travel to and from work in the city centers. <br />Gary Meyer, 3024 County Road J, stated city should not bicker about <br />routes as much as whether bus service is needed. He feels that it is. <br />Until additional stop signs are installed on County Road J he feels <br />that a return to the Red Oak alignment would be unnecessarily hazardous. <br />John Weinand, 8394 Spring Lake Road, has used MTC buses to travel to <br />work. He said buses waited as long as 15 minutes at Red Oak and County <br />Road J because motorists won't let them out onto J. <br />