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Mounds View City Council October 26, 2009 Regular Meeting Page 8 sidewalk. Public Works Director DeBar stated the tree trunk is within Mr. Glidden’s property. 1 Council Member Gunn stated she supports the boulevard because it provides a margin of safety 2 for pedestrians, does not support chokers, and supports the signage and turn lanes. 3 4 Mr. Glidden noted there is also a parking lane along the curb that also provides separation. 5 6 Council Member Stigney asked about the width of the boulevard on Long Lake Road. Public 7 Works Director DeBar estimated less than five feet. 8 9 Council Member Mueller asked how much farther the road is moved to the opposite side with the 10 boulevard and sidewalk. Public Works Director DeBar stated the street is in the middle of the 11 right-of-way at the area of the Middle School. If a boulevard is included, the sidewalk would be 12 shifted two feet towards the property line and the road shifted three feet to the west, tapered north 13 of Woodale Drive over 250 feet. Council Member Mueller reviewed that the design decided on 14 by the Committee on September 21st and ratified by the Council on September 28th is that the 15 road width would stay and residents left the meeting with that understanding. Those residents 16 felt they had compromised to do the right thing with shared youth parking, bike lane/path, and 17 safe pedestrian crossing with sidewalk adjoining the curb. Council Member Mueller advised the 18 Council about telephone calls she received asking how these design elements were re-opened. 19 She noted that during engineering design work, it was found the ADA regulations may not be 20 met with undulation over the driveways. She commented that while some residents traverse the 21 City in motorized wheelchairs, she is concerned with the way this scenario came up and felt it 22 was unfortunate these design enhancements were not addressed during the September meetings. 23 Council Member Mueller supported a design with the sidewalks adjacent to the curb, as 24 originally proposed, noting that residents would prefer mailboxes away from the sidewalk to 25 prevent tampering by pedestrians. She stated with this experience, she hopes ADA requirements 26 will be addressed when residents are providing public input. 27 28 Public Works Director DeBar stated the ADA requirements can be addressed and are not the 29 main “driver” of this consideration. He explained that in September the project had not yet 30 reached this level of final design detail. 31 32 Council Member Mueller asked about the difference in cost with the sidewalk adjacent to the 33 curb versus installing the boulevard. Public Works Director DeBar stated it is the cost for five 34 feet of salt resistant sod, maybe several hundred dollars. 35 36 Council Member Hull asked why residents were not notified of the Street and Utilities 37 Committee meeting. Public Works Director DeBar stated this was brought up last minute 38 because the mailbox issue was missed. He stated staff tries its best to notify residents and the 39 notices were hand delivered. 40 41 Mayor Flaherty did not support the use of a choker due to safety concerns and thought the 42 sidewalk should be located adjacent to the curb. He noted the Post Office has to agree to move 43 the mailboxes across the street and suggested staff ask the ten residents impacted what they 44 would prefer. 45