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Mounds View City Council June 26, 2006 <br />Regular Meeting Page 4 <br /> <br />because an amendment such as what is being proposed would require significant work. He 1 <br />suggested tabling the action would be the best option. 2 <br /> 3 <br />Director Ericson said that procedurally, the ordinance could go back to the Planning Commission 4 <br />for further review, but that typically, after the first reading, an ordinance does not go back to the 5 <br />Planning Commission. 6 <br /> 7 <br />Director Ericson stated that he talked with the Public Works Director regarding the retaining 8 <br />walls, and that while there are some instances in which a railing or fence would be necessary, he 9 <br />does not believe it should be legislated. He stated there may be a way to build some 10 <br />discretionary review into the ordinance, but would have to research the issue with City Attorney 11 <br />Riggs. 12 <br /> 13 <br />Community Development Director Ericson said the issues could be discussed with City Attorney 14 <br />Riggs, the Amundsens, and Planning Commission, and then brought back to Council. He added 15 <br />that he agrees with Amundsens that the ordinance should only be improved upon once. 16 <br /> 17 <br />Mayor Marty said he would like to take the time to straighten out the ordinance now rather than 18 <br />amending or changing it later. He said he would like something more specific and safety-19 <br />related. He said he would be okay grandfathering in people who already have retaining walls and 20 <br />believes in the future, adding more language will cover the Council. 21 <br /> 22 <br />Councilmember Thomas said the issues of 2-feet and under were brought up and said she does 23 <br />not want to get too specific with the code. She said she does not want to over-legislate what 24 <br />happens on private property. She added she would like to allow a City Staff person the discretion 25 <br />to make decisions regarding these issues. She said all over-legislation will do is make people not 26 <br />update these properties. 27 <br /> 28 <br />City Attorney Riggs said Community Development Director Ericson’s recommendations would 29 <br />be appropriate. Regarding the liability question, he said if something happens on private 30 <br />property, the City’s insurance is not liable. He added that the issues brought up before the 31 <br />Council warrants further discussion. 32 <br /> 33 <br />Councilmember Gunn said she agrees with Councilmember Thomas. She asked if it is the City’s 34 <br />place to determine liability if people fall off one wall into a neighbor’s yard. She said it is a 35 <br />private property issue. She said she agrees that specific legislation will make people not update 36 <br />their properties. 37 <br /> 38 <br />Councilmember Stigney asked about the railing, and what kinds of railings would have to be 39 <br />legislated. He said he also believes the Council is over-legislating. 40 <br /> 41 <br />Mr. Amundsen commented that the building code already legislates specifics, including steps off 42 <br />of decks. He stated that if decks require certain things, retaining walls should require them as 43 <br />well. He said such legislation for retaining walls is well within the Council’s ability. He added it 44
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