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• Mounds View Planning Commission July 7, 1999 Regular Meeting Page 24 Commissioner Miller stated that if something projected six feet above the top, it would be almost as high as the billboard itself. She asked what might project six feet from the top of the billboard. Chair Peterson stated that he had most commonly seen a face, with the top of the head projecting above the main area of the billboard, noting that generally this projection was not as wide as the body of the billboard itself. Jopke noted the requirement that billboards have no more than two faces that are back to back and parallel, or angled no more than 35 degrees. He stated that staff had reviewed the maximum height requirements for billboards, and that staff suggested the maximum height be set at 35 feet which is consistent with the maximum height limits for other types of signs. Jopke stated that staff had indicated a requirement that billboards not obstruct traffic signs or drivers vision. He stated that they included a provision to clarify the status of non-conforming billboards, indicating that any billboard in existence can continue, and the message can change, but the billboard cannot be expanded. Jopke stated that the final ordinance provision was in regard to Section 1008.11 that is labeled as • signs and billboards, but the section deals strictly with sign variances. He stated that staff had amended the title to reflect the ordinance issues. He stated that a copy of the draft ordinance had been forwarded to the City Attorney's office for review and comment. He added that, as requested by the Commission, he had asked the City Attorney to suggest some "sunset" language that would allow the code to revert back to its present form if the state does not allow any billboards. Jopke stated that the second ordinance amendment allows and sets standards for signs in PF and CRP zoning districts. He noted that the current code does not list any permitted signage or standards in either of these districts. The draft ordinance allows signs consistent with neighborhood business districts and with the pedestal sign requirements in Section 1008.01, Subdivision 6 in the PF and CRP districts. Jopke stated that this was open for discussion. He stated that the amount of signage allowed might be more than necessary. He noted that existing signage at parks in a neighborhood setting appears to range from 18 to 20 square feet total sign area, while the main City Hall sign is approximately 128 square feet in area. He stated that the total freestanding signage in at the Community Center appears to be approximately 90 square feet. Jopke stated that he had requested John Hammerschmidt to inventory the signage at the golf course, and added that the issue of the proper zoning of the golf course required further investigation. Jopke stated that formal action on this matter would be premature at this point, but requested that the Planning Commission discuss the draft ordinances, and suggest any changes that may be necessary. He added that the Commission should also discuss what kind of public input process should be utilized. He stated that the Planning Commission would be requested to make a formal 111 recommendation on the ordinances to the City Council at a future meeting.