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April 26, 2019 Page 7 <br />2. "Double -Dipping" <br />(Precursor - Any discussion on "Double -Dipping" inevitably included a <br />discussion on the "Two Hatter"issue which in turn brings into discussion the Fair <br />Standards Labor Act (FLSA) of 1938. Definitions can aid in this discussion. <br />"Double Dipping" is widely accepted/considered to mean double <br />pension/double benefits coverage for the same service. <br />Two -Hatter refers to being a full time and volunteer and is forbidden under the <br />International Association of Fire Fighters union constitution. <br />FLSA - Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938 addressing overtime, minimum wage, <br />child labor and others. <br />As the Minnesota fire service continues to evolve into different staffing models, <br />there is understandably ambiguity as to previously established legislation, <br />industry practices, and traditional volunteer recruitment and retention tools. <br />Career firefighters, like police officers, participate in the PERA Police and Fire <br />Plan (PERA P&F Plan)3. It has, however, become the practice (issue emerged <br />with 1989 major reform effort of PERA) of some fire departments and <br />municipalities to allow full-time career staff, including many chief officers, to <br />participate in the PERA P&F Plan and the fire department's "volunteer" fire relief <br />association (Lawful under Chapter 353 Statutes (PERA) and Volunteer Pension <br />424.A02 Statutes (Voluntee Relief). This has raised questions and concerns by <br />several fire chiefs (myself included), municipal and state officials, as well as <br />elected representatives. (Council would be interested in this list as SBM is one of <br />many departments that lawfully complies and practice allows greater <br />efficiency. A change in the law may result in increased costs.) Regardless of <br />personal opinions on the matter, there is inconsistency and confusion across the <br />state. This is a topic that most certainly warrants a more in-depth discussion <br />among stakeholders (Concur, see above), including legal counsel, and clear <br />clarification/direction to ensure compliance with modern- law, legal <br />precedence, and alignment with the spirit and intent of Minnesota <br />(Administrator <br />2 Per your April 16, 2019, letter, "We are a charter city with a very restrictive levy cap of 2% plus <br />inflation which is currently insufficient to meet our base salary and benefit needs" <br />3The General Plan (Coordinated Fund) of PERA has an employee contribution of 6.5% and an <br />employer contribution of 7.5% compared to the PERA P&F Plan of 11.30% for the employee and <br />16.95% for the employer. <br />