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Mounds View City Council February 18, 2022 <br />Special Meeting Page 4 <br /> <br />the courts have said, in the Grand Rapids case from 2006, that notwithstanding the form <br />requirements of Minnesota Rule 8205-1010 and the verification requirements of Minnesota Rule <br />8205-1050 the filing of the petition automatically suspends the effective date of the ordinance <br />pending the outcome of the referendum vote. The rules that they keep trying to cite as the reason <br />why this is insufficient don’t even matter. The main one in the memo now, because the dates of <br />birth were not listed for every one of the people who signed the petition, then that makes it <br />impossible to verify the signatures within the petition. This absolutely was not the case as I’m <br />sure people on the City Council know. The City officials will use the SVRS from the Secretary of <br />State to verify signatures and that the SVRS lists the name and registration information of every <br />single legally registered voter in Minnesota and it was regularly updated with address change <br />information that is provided to the Secretary of State from the DMV and many other places. He <br />did not know how anyone could argue that because date of birth is not there you could not verify <br />people based on their name and their address. That absolutely was enough. He stated in Butler <br />versus the City of St. Paul the Minnesota Supreme Court Case from three years ago, the Minnesota <br />Supreme Court recognized that the information within SVRS overrules the information contained <br />in the petition and there they rejected a number of signatures within petitions that listed valid St. <br />Paul addresses because in the SVRS the updated address showed they were no longer city <br />residents. He noted the City Clerk had plenty of information to go by to verify the signatures. A <br />footnote in that memorandum it says this still has not been done, four days after the deadline, they <br />still have not verified. <br /> <br />Bob King, 7408 Silver Lake Road, stated he had a couple of things. He indicated people have <br />stated this should be very simple and it is very simple. You follow the letter of the law and you <br />get what you need. Don’t tell me the City didn’t provide information when if you went to the <br />County website there it was. So it’s up to you, not the City. It seems like some people want to <br />blame the City and he doesn’t see that at all. Secondly, not all of the citizens agree as someone <br />stated. Thirdly, the City was not going to 9% right away, this was in case something happens down <br />the road. The City was not looking to jump to 9% and the City have to provide where this money <br />was being spent, because it was not being spent. It will be given to the citizens when it was going <br />to be spent. <br /> <br />Karen Mills, 2280 Knoll Drive, stated she continued to appreciate the Councilmembers following <br />the advice and guidance of the City Attorney on making determinations that have legal <br />ramifications. Especially when considering any potential precedent ramifications of accepting <br />petitions that are technically deficient. She thanked the Council so much for all that they are doing <br />and for all of their time. <br /> <br />6. CITY BUSINESS <br />A. Review and Consideration of Petitioner’s Letter regarding Referendum <br />Petition Submitted February 14, 2022, regarding Ordinance No. 984. <br />B. Presentation of Certificate Regarding Petition. <br />C. Resolution Regarding Petition and Certificate. <br />D. General Discussion Regarding Above Agenda Items. <br /> <br />City Administrator Zikmund clarified from a previous statement that Ms. Amundson stated she <br />reached out to City staff for help to put the petition together and noted he has no recollection of
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