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NSWMA Comments <br />Page: 4 <br />Attachment l: <br />Specific comments pertaining to Reporting Methodologies: Because of the extensive nature of the report, NSWMA will not <br />submit a comprehensive page by page list of comments on this report. We do, however, submit the following priority <br />comments that support our concerns with the Report Methodologies and resulting conclusions that are drawn. Pertaining to: <br />1) Rates in organized collection versus open collection systems, page 6: The report acknowledges the many factors that go <br />into establishing rates for different customers and states that "While there are exceptions and cost related issues can be very <br />complex...." the report goes on to conclude that "residents in organized collection systems can and do pay less than residents of <br />open collection systems". <br />a) Our experience clearly shows, consumers are driven by the value equation and not simply the cheapest price. In the <br />open market system, with a diversity of competitors cheap prices are available, but as in any market based system, the <br />range of prices from high to low varies depending on commerce. There are many examples of how the free market <br />system works with pricing, including the airline industry, which for a single airline can have different ticket prices for <br />different seats on the same flight. This is analogous to the problem the Foth Report attempts to identify as problematic. <br />b) The free market system works. It is amazing to observe the extreme interest and overt willingness to throw out a <br />working market system. If the current system was not innovating or delivering environmentally sound solutions, we <br />could understand the need for change. Clearly this is not the case. Here are two simple examples of recent program <br />and policy decisions supported by the waste industry: <br />i) Single Sort Recycling: The implementation of Single Sort recycling resulted in the amount of net material <br />recycled increasing and participation has skyrocketed. The capital investment, based on a healthy open market, <br />was committed without government mandate. This "analysis" radically changes the equation used to justify this <br />investment. <br />ii) Waste Policy: A current example is a bill that moved through the 2009 legislature regarding the requirement of <br />compostable bags for curbside collection of yard waste. As Representative Gardner will attest, private industry <br />has not opposed this bill, because we are already doing it. In open market cities, reusable containers or <br />compostable bags are the norm. It is interesting to note, the only problem cited with the legislation was from a <br />government managed system that needs extra time to implement their program. <br />2) Rate survey of residents, page 7: "It should be noted that this survey methodology was not a scientific process with <br />random sampling. Also there are many variables affecting pricing. Even so, the survey results provide interesting data". <br />(emphasis added). <br />3) Road wear and tear, page 16: "This study did not locate much documented information available that provides actual, <br />quantifiable data regarding the issue (of impact of open hauling system on roads) on actual residential streets in Minnesota." <br />Despite this statement, the report has numerous references to reduced wear and tear with organized collection systems, and that <br />this is a cost savings advantage of organized collection. In fact the report later cites a memorandum from the Nick Landwer, <br />P.E. from the consulting firm, URS to the City of Arden Hills (Attachment 3) that states "environmental factors are generally <br />responsible for the majority of pavement wear and deterioration for Arden Hills streets and therefore significant extension of <br />pavement life (through organized collection) are unlikely". The City hired URS (the recognized engineering expert on this <br />issue) to analyze what causes road damage. Specifically, Nick Landwer P.E. from URS said the following: <br />"Although vehicle types and loading contribute to the wear of the pavement section, environmental factors also <br />contribute to the deterioration of the pavement section. A properly designed bituminous surface should be able to <br />handle the traffic loading over its design life including heavy truck loadings experienced in Arden Hills. <br />Reducing the number of heavy truck loadings should have positive effects on the lifespan and quality of local <br />streets, however environmental factors are generally ponsible for the majority of pavement wear and <br />deterioration for Arden Hills streets and therefore significant extensions of pavement life are unlikely <br />1163 E. Odgen Avenue, Suite 705, PMB 313, Naperville, IL 60563 <br />800-679-6269 630-848-1101 630-848-1102 fx <br />www.nswma.org <br />
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