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Mounds View City Council Apri19, 2001 <br />Regular Meeting Page 5 <br />• rounds each you would have the 30,000 rounds needed for the additional nine holes. He also <br />stated the phone calls break down to the eight-mile area. <br />The Springsted Representative stated that normally the golf course studies that they do would <br />involve a little greater area than the eight miles but he stated he feels comfortable that the eight <br />miles is a wide enough sample of cities. <br />Council Member Stigney referred to the statistics for average weekly pay that indicated an <br />increase of 30.24% over the last six years and asked if that was factored in. <br />The Springsted Representative indicated that if you use 3% over 20 years you would get that <br />number btrt that they did not factor in the 30.24% figure. He then stated they used the national <br />CPI which they confirmed with the state before using. <br />Council Member Stigney noted Tiger Woods is attracting people to golf but indicated that he <br />feels the economy is slowing down and people may not have as much money for golfing. He <br />stated his main concern is the financial projections are based on using the course the City has <br />now and doing another nine holes. He then stated Mr. Hammerschmidt had a list of items that <br />the City would need if it added an additional nine holes and questioned whether those items were <br />figured into the cost factors for the additional nine holes. <br />The Springsted Representative explained the cost list drafted by Mr. Hammerschmidt was not <br />submitted to them and the costs were not used. He stated those improvements would need to be <br />taken into consideration based on the success of the course. He suggested Council and the public <br />should decide if the course could support those improvements. He further stated that this is not a <br />high end facility but is a low end one that people will want to back up to if they cannot afford <br />$50.00 courses due to slower economic times. <br />Council Member Stigney stated he is concerned that if the City does not look at the up front <br />projected costs to make the course viable and practical then the City is missing a big chunk of the <br />actual costs. He then stated that to go ahead with the project and look at costs later is how the <br />City got into trouble last time. <br />Council ,Member Marty stated Springsted was contracted to .look at the black and white hard <br />figures and those hard figures included the prospective or proposed possibility of another nine <br />holes to determine the cost effectiveness and what the possible outlay against the income would <br />be. He then explained Mr. Hammerschmidt developed a plan in the event the billboards did not <br />go through. He then requested that the discussion be kept to what the City has asked Springsted <br />to do. <br />Mayor Sonterre stated he appreciated Council Member Stigney's concern for the eventuality but <br />stated he feels that Springsted was asked to look at specific numbers that did not involve moving <br />the range, adding a larger parking lot, or a larger clubhouse. He then stated the City does need to <br />. be cognizant of the fact that the second course may not be completely viable if the City does not <br />
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