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Mounds View City Council October 26, 2009 <br />Regular Meeting Page 8 <br /> <br /> <br />Mr. Glidden noted there is also a parking lane along the curb that also provides separation. <br /> <br />Council Member Stigney asked about the width of the boulevard on Long Lake Road. Public <br />Works Director DeBar estimated less than five feet. <br /> <br />Council Member Mueller asked how much farther the road is moved to the opposite side with the <br />boulevard and sidewalk. Public Works Director DeBar stated the street is in the middle of the <br />right-of-way at the area of the Middle School. If a boulevard is included, the sidewalk would be <br />shifted two feet towards the property line and the road shifted three feet to the west, tapered north <br />of Woodale Drive over 250 feet. Council Member Mueller reviewed that the design decided on <br />by the Committee on September 21st and ratified by the Council on September 28th is that the <br />road width would stay and residents left the meeting with that understanding. Those residents <br />felt they had compromised to do the right thing with shared youth parking, bike lane/path, and <br />safe pedestrian crossing with sidewalk adjoining the curb. Council Member Mueller advised of <br />telephone calls she received asking how these design elements were re-opened. She noted that <br />during engineering design work, it was found the ADA regulations may not be met with <br />undulation over the driveways. She commented that while some residents traverse the City in <br />motorized wheelchairs, she is concerned with the way this scenario came up and felt it was <br />unfortunate these design enhancements were not addressed during the September meetings. <br />Council Member Mueller supported a design with the sidewalks adjacent to the curb, as <br />originally proposed, noting that residents would prefer mailboxes away from the sidewalk to <br />prevent tampering by pedestrians. She stated with this experience, she hopes ADA requirements <br />will be addressed when residents are providing public input. <br /> <br />Public Works Director DeBar stated the ADA requirements can be met and are not the main <br />“driver” of this consideration. He explained that in September the project had not yet reached <br />this level of final design detail. <br /> <br />Council Member Mueller asked about the difference in cost with the sidewalk adjacent to the <br />curb versus installing the boulevard. Public Works Director DeBar stated it is the cost for five <br />feet of salt resistant sod, maybe several hundred dollars. <br /> <br />Council Member Hull asked why residents were not notified of the Street and Utilities <br />Committee meeting. Public Works Director DeBar stated this was brought up last minute <br />because the mailbox issue was missed. He stated staff tries its best to notify residents and the <br />notices were hand delivered. <br /> <br />Mayor Flaherty did not support the use of a choker due to safety concerns and thought the <br />sidewalk should be located adjacent to the curb. He noted the Post Office has to agree to move <br />the mailboxes across the street and suggested staff ask the ten residents impacted what they <br />would prefer. <br /> <br />MOTION/SECOND: Flaherty/Mueller. To Waive the Reading and Adopt Resolution 7519, <br />Adopting Enhanced Design Options for Edgewood Drive Reconstruction, as amended to remove
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