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Mounds View City Council April 24, 2006 <br />Regular Meeting Page 28 <br /> <br /> <br />Director Ericson stated that the City has to look at the intent, and every code needs the clause that <br />states if it is not explicitly permitted, then it is not allowed. He commented there are holes to <br />allow what one would naturally see in any residential district. He stated birdhouses are not listed <br />in the code, and by strict interpretation of the code, it would not be allowed. He stated there are <br />features that may not be contemplated but they are not intended to be restricted because they do <br />not show in the code. He stated that certainly birdhouses are allowed in the City. <br /> <br />Director Ericson stated that the fact that there is not an interpretation or a definition of a retaining <br />wall in the code does not change the fact that this is something that is not unexpected in a <br />residential district or between property lines. He stated it is a feature that is commonly used in <br />landscaping as well as to demarcate where a property line is. He stated that because it is not <br />strictly permitted, the City has latitude to have the discretion to say that it is allowed by virtue of <br />the fact that it is same or similar or permitted as part of the residential landscape. He stated he <br />disagrees because it is not strictly defined that it not is permitted. <br /> <br />Councilmember Thomas stated that the situation is not just about the Amundsens, but rather that <br />the City needs to look at the situation across the board. She stated she does not believe the <br />provision applies to this particular situation. She stressed there is a strong implication in the <br />code that retaining walls are allowed at property lines, even though there may not be a definition. <br />She stated that if the issue goes to court, it will come down to what has been the City’s past <br />practice, the consistency of interpretation, and the implication of the code. She stated the City <br />does allow retaining walls on the property line, but the code does not say how it is applied. <br /> <br />Director Ericson explained the Planning Commission looked at whether there should be a <br />definition of a retaining wall in the code and if there should be a setback for a retaining wall in <br />the code. He mentioned they also looked at issues relating to fences and terraces, and they have <br />not taken official action, they have directed Staff to bring forward additional research. He stated <br />the Planning Commission’s intent is to add a definition of what a retaining wall is and indicate <br />that retaining walls are allowed up to the property line. He stated that the Planning Commission <br />felt that there was not a need to add the definition of a terrace, as it was defined similar to a patio <br />in the code. He stated the Planning Commission felt there should not be a setback for fences and <br />the code should remain as it currently states. He explained the Planning Commission will be <br />bringing forward a recommendation that addresses retaining walls, and the recommendation will <br />be that retaining walls are allowed up to the property line and a definition of a retaining wall will <br />be added. <br /> <br />Mrs. Amundsen stated the code makes references to ornamental items that can be moved. She <br />stated that there is a definition in the code that defines that a structure is permanently cemented in <br />the ground. She stated one has to be careful in comparing a birdhouse to a structure as they are <br />not similar. <br /> <br />Mrs. Amundsen asked City Attorney Riggs what his opinion is on the fact that the code states <br />that when something is not specifically allowed, that the City should err on the side of the more
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