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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes - 1969/01/27The Regular Meeting of the Mounds View Village Council was called to order by Mayor Rustad at 8:01 P.M. on Monday, January 27, 1969, at the Village Hall, 2401 Highway #10, St. Paul, Minnesota 55112. Present: Mayor Rustad Councilman Johnson Councilman Hodges Councilman Blanchard Absent: Councilman Malvin PROCEEDINGS OF THE VILLAGE COUNCIL VILLAGE OF MOUNDS VIEW RAMSEY COUNTY, MINNESOTA January 27, 1969 Also Present: Clerk- Administrator Zylla Attorney Meyers Engineer Boehm MSP (Blanchard /Hodges) To approve the minutes of January 13, 1969. 3 Ayes Johnson Abstained Mayor Rustad's Report Mayor Rustad read the Planning Commission minutes of January 21st, and a letter from Scout Troop #167. Mayor Rustad also read a Police Commission report in which Edward Loomis, Roger Koopmeiners and Timothy Ramacher were recommended for police patrolman. MSP (Rustad /Johnson) To hire Edward Loomis as police patrolman effective February 15, 1969. 4 Ayes Mayor Rustad also received a letter from Lorraine Stomquist, Clerk Administrator of Arden Hills, in which the Village of Arden Hills has requested the school board to form a joint committee with various municipalities to study tax base in the north suburban area. The Clerk's office was requested to send a letter stating that Mounds View would like to be a part of such a study. Clerk- Administrator Zylla's Report MSP (Rustad /Blanchard) To approve the following licenses: General Contracting Victor Loeffler Construction and Excavating Erwin Montgomery Construction Co.,Inc. 4 Ayes MSP (Hodges /Johnson) To approve the following checks: General Ck #s 3028 -3053, Payroll Ck #s 647 -680 and Bond Ck# 471. 4 Ayes Clerk Zylla read portions of a letter sent to the Mounds View Council from the City of Fridley in which the City of Fridley asked the Mounds View Council to request Ramsey County to upgrade County Road H2 from the West corporate limit to Highway #10. The office was instructed to send a letter to Ramsey County stating the Council is considering such a proposal. MSP (Rustad /Johnson) To approve Resolution #423 apportionine the assessments on Division #39721. 4 Ayes MSP (Johnson /Hodges) To approve Resolution #424 apportioning; the assessments on Division #39765. 4 Ayes MSP (Hodges /Blanchard) To approve Resolution #425 apportioning the assessments on Division #39783. 4 Ayes Councilman Johnson's Report Councilman Johnson stated that a previously passed resolution requesting NSSSD to make a study of the Minneapolis offer was not acted upon at the last meeting. The resolution is scheduled to be discussed tomorrow night. Mayor Rusted interjected that a metropolitan sewer bill was expected to be introduced in the legislature this week. Councilman Hodges' Report Councilman Hodges submitted a list of the Recreation Committee members for 1969. He asked any interested residents who wanted to be a member of the committee to contact him. There was still one opening. Councilman Blanchard no report. Robert Edmond, electrical inspector, stated that he had attended a League of Minnesota Municipalities seminar. Attorney- Meyers' Report Attorney Meyers stated that in his interpretation our garbage and rubbish ordinance did prohibit the placing of garbage cans nearer than the side of the building. Attorney Meyers stated he still is in the process of studying the snowmobile ordinance. Attorney Meyers presented Resolution #426, adopted in December, in which the Council went on record as in fever of a metropolitan zoo. MSP (Blanchard /Johnson) To approve Resolution #427 abating certain assessments in Block 1 Holchuh Addition. MSP (Johnson /Hodges) To approve Resolution #428 releasing easement rights on Lots 1 and 2 Parkview Terrace. The regular meeting recessed at 8:30 P.M. Rezoning hearing called to order by Mayor Rustad. Clerk Zylla read legal notice. Co 1.4,14- Raa.ci I A z ari 2 Wcedc.t:.'f 4 Ayes 4 Ayes 3 Mayor Rustad commented on his desire to see an orderly meeting. He stated that all persons would be recognized. He then called for all petitions for or against the rezoning to be presented to the Council. Norman Chervany, 2595 Woodcrest, presented a petition with approximately 540 names against the rezoning. Parcel #1 #59- 0070- 010 -80, #59 -0070- 010 -81 and #59- 0070 010 -84 Perry Copeland, the attorney representing the developers, then proceeded to make his presentation. He stated he was representing Red Oak Estates which consisted of Anthony Holchuh, Thomas Swanson, Keith Karstad and White Oak Builders. The area to be rezoned approximately 74 acres. Fifteen typical blocks at present to be developed. The area could contain a potential 230 to 240 single family homes. Initially the developers wish to construct approximately six complexes, four 30 unit buildings to a complex, with a buffer zone of 120 feet to be constructed on the West edge of the property. This buffer zone will contain a five foot mound and hedge. To buffer the South, single family residences would be provided. Relative height of homes versus apartment buildings was discussed by Mr Copeland. He stated a 2 1/2 story building is 23 feet high. A rambler typically 16 feet high. A 1 1/2 story building typically 22 feet high. These buildings would be 23 feet high approximately. One bedroom units would have a square foot living area of 795 square feet. Two bedroom would have either 965 square feet of 1,025 square feet. There would be indoor pools, security system, saunas and barbecues provided. Proposal initially would contain 680 proposed units. Expected tax revenues were discussed. Mr. Copeland cited a survey taken in New Brighton recently of twenty eights. Apartment survey found approximately 2.3 persons per unit. It was found that there were approximately 16 school age children for each 100 units. Mr. Copeland then said the cost for each complex of four 30 unit buildings would be $1,850,000.00. Total cost of the initial project would be approximately $10,000,000.00. In 1968 Mounds View levied $39,200.00 in Village taxes. The new complex would produce school taxes of $333,200.00 per year. Total taxes of over $466,000.00 per year. Estimated cost of educating one student was $500.00 in 1966. Estimated cost of educating 109 children fromtthe New Brighton survey would be $65,500.00, 1/5 of what would be paid in school taxes. Mr. Copeland also presented a letter from the Engineer stating the water and sewer was available. Mr. Copeland then mentioned the savings on billings and streets by constructing multiple dwellings versus single family homes. Mr. Copeland stated that connection charges on sewer alone would be over $136,000.00. The complex would produce approximately $6,500.00 more in soles tax revenue. Financing is now available from North American Life Insurance Company, Construction would like to be started in the spring or early summer of 1969. 4 Mayor Rustad then called for residents comments. John Krawczyk, 5128 Eastwood Drive, questioned traffic flow and the adequacy of the buffer zone. Mr. Copeland stated that the traffic would be directed down Ridge Land or Brighton Lane.and that they would be happy to hire a traffic engineer to study the problem. Also stated that they would provide fencing if residents desired fencing. Wayne Jones, Brighton Lane, was against the proposal because the traffic would be directed to school grounds at Sunnyside school. Richard Paradise, Eastwood and Woodcrest, was against. He asked the Engineer if in fact water was not a problem since we are in the process of constructing additions to our utility system. The Engineer stated that the HUD specifications required that our water utility system provides usage up to 1988. Richard Fradise also questioned the adequacy of the police force in the event this project was constructed. Proposed development would bring in approximately 1,500 more people to the community. Norman Chervany was against the proposal. He stated that this was not the place for the development, residents suffer intangible losses. He questioned if there was no other area in the community for such a development. Howard Neisen, 5150 Irondale, asked about the land East of Long Lake Road. Mayor Rustad stated this would be discussed later in the meeting by another developer. Paul Kraska stated he had not heard a response to Mr. Chervany's question. Gerald Tesch, 5135 Long Lake Road, was against the proposal. Donald Sandstrom, 5130 Greenwood, stated that he wanted a stable neighborhood and he questioned the transients this project would bring in. Mr. Kobe, Brighton Lane, against the proposal. Milt Stole, Chairman of the Planning Commission, stated that the developers have a right to propose a development such as this. Mr. Rosenbush, 5065 Rainbow Lane, would like the area to stay residential. John Robertus, said he was opposed to the proposal. He stated the Brighton apartments were ghettos. Ernest Johnson, Red Oak Drive, wants a study made and wants all construction stopped on apartments until such a study is made. Mrs. Ralph Kieffer, 5180 Bona Road, against the proposal. Milt Stole stated the area North of County Road H2 was presently zoned light industrial. Harold Hjelle, 5161 Red Oak Drive, said zoning is actually R3 North of H2 and it would provide an adequate buffer to the I -1 zoning.to the North. He was against the proposal. Mayor Rustad stated he would like a show of hands of those against the proposal. Approximately 200 persons raised their hands. Mayor Rustad asked for a show of hands for those for the proposal. Approximately five people raised their hands. David Mueller, 5175 Red Oak Drive, then proceeded to explain that in his opinion a compromise of some sort could be reached. He was opposed to the development but he felt that they did have a legitimate right to petition for the development and that he felt that ha would not be opposed to the proposal if it was resubmitted as long as some provisions for additional single family residences would be included. He then proceeded to give a short history of the community and its development. He stated previously farmers were against having their lots divided into residential property, before that probably the Indians were opposed to the farmers. 5 Mr. Copeland stated that this was good planning, health and welfare and that he had not heard any arguement against the proposal which stated that either the health or welfare of the community would be impaired by this proposal. He said he was willing to make a compromise. He requested a continuation of two weeks. Residents would like a decision tonight. Another resident asked Mr. Copeland where he lives and if there were any apartments near him. Mr. Copeland said no, there are no apartments near him. John Robertus would like a vote. Mayor Rusted ruled him out of order. Mrs. Walter Kastner, 5066 Longview Drive, stated that there was a school bus problem. That since all children in a nine block area would have to walk to school the high traffic flow may cause problems in the safety of children. Mr. Chervany asked the Council to take a look at the whole village. Mr. Hjelle stated that a new plan was needed. Henry Dyslin, Brighton Lane, slated he had bought his property knowing it was Ri. He is against the proposal. Mr. Carlson, 5059 Greenwood Drive, is also against the proposal. Parcel #2 #59- 0080 140 -50 Mr. Charles Larson, developer, then proceeded to present a proposal for the area East of Long Lake Road and West of Irondale. l/orraine Merker, Irondale Road, was against the proposal. Henry Dyslin stated the land was low. Curtis Johnson desired information on how many buildings. Developer said as many as the ordinance permits. Johnson said he was opposed, not enough information. Ada Lawrence, 5260 Long Lake Road, was against the proposal. John Robertus also against this proposal. Milt Stale then proceeded to explain our zoning ordinance and lot requirements. He again stated that anyone has a right to petition and be heard. Mr. Kobe requested information on who recommended the hearing. Mayor Rustad stated it was recommended by the Planning Commission. Mayor Rusted called for a vote on the rezoning. Robert Eigehheer was for the rezoning. He stated that as developers it was their duty to promote land and if it wasn't for developers none of the people would be out here today. Paul Pasch of Rainbow Lane requested information on why you can't build a home on peat. Milt Stole explained. Mayor Rustad stated that in his estimation the hearing was a success and that he felt there was a fine group of individuals present. He then closed the hearing and asked for comments from the Council. Councilman Hodges stated that we have had a lot of midnight meetings setting up ordinances and at this time he would recommend denial. Councilman Blanchard stated he was all for the proposal but he seconded the motion to deny. Councilman Johnson stated that all the land there was not suitable for single family residences. He would like to see something other than apartments or in addition to apartments constructed in that area unsuitable for single family residences. Density would increase and in his estimation this is the proble.n as the residents see it at the present time. 6- Mayor Rustad stated that he had no comments; that he was part Indian and that he could read smoke signals. Councilman Blanchard stated this was the largest crowd he had ever seen and the largest proposal. He said that in his estimation all had done a fine job. It was a truly orderly crowd. MSP (Hodges /Blanchard) To deny the rezoning. Hearing closed at 10:10 P.M. Mayor, Rusted called a ten minute recess. The meeting called to order againaat 10:24 P.M. A continuation of Attorney'Meyers' report. Attorney Meyers presented an assessment agreement for Raymond and Ann Buhil, Spring View Lane. Attorney also presented a proposal between Fridley and Mounds View regarding sanitary sever connection on Pleasant View Drive. Attorney Meyers also stated that developers Beim and Underdahl would like a hearing set to rezone their property on County Road H2 and Highway #8 on Highway #10. Attorney Meyers recommended we change our zoning ordinance to eliminate shopping center and replace it with B3 classification. MSP (Blanchard /Johnson) To set a rezoning hearing for Beim and Underdahl for 8:30 P.M. March 10th. Parcel #59- 0080 060 -75 and #59- 0080 010 -76. 4 Ayes Engineer Boehm's Report Engineer Boehm read preliminary report and cost estimate for extension of Knollwood Drive North of Arden (Project 1968 -5). MSP (Blanchard /Johnson) To accept preliminary report for sewer, water, street improvement project 1968 -5. MSP (Johnson /Hodgea) To order improvement hearing for Project 1968 -5 February 24th at 8:30 P.M. Engineer stated that proposed subdivision for F. M. Schaffer Inc. would need additional assessment agreement. Subdivision was referred to the attorney. Mayor Rustad commented on proposed Daily Plat. He stated that there was an error in the legal description. Engineer then reported on the progress of the test wells. He stated that Aamot Well was working out two shifts. MSP (Blanchard /Johnson) To adjourn at 10:40 P.M. Respectfully Submitted, Dennis S. Zyi4i/a Clerk Administrator 4 Ayes 4 Ayes 4 Ayes 4 Ayes