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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes - 1969/04/28PROCEEDINGS OF THE VILLAGE COUNCIL VILLAGE OF MOUNDS VIEW RAMSEY COUNTY, MINNESOTA April 28, 1969 The Regular Meeting of the Mounds View Village Council was called to order by Mayor Rustad at 8:00 P.M. on Monday, April 28, 1969, at the Village Hall, 2401 Highway #10, St. Paul, Minnesota 55112. Present: Mayor Rustad Councilman Malvin Councilman Johnson Councilman Hodges Councilman Blanchard Also Present: Clerk- Administrator Zylla Attorney Meyers Engineer Boehm MSP (Blanchard /Malvin) To approve the minutes of the regular and special meetings of April 14, 1969. 4 Ayes Johnson Abstained! MSP (Johnson /Blanchard) To approve the minutes of the special meeting of April 21. 5 Ayes Boehm's Report Engineer reported that an application has been made with the Department of Trans- portation for a permit for a water tower in Section 17. A special hearing will be held May 22nd to decide on the feasibility of this water tower. The Engineer advised it was a mere formality. The Engineer also reported a letter was received from HUD in which they agreed to the rerouting of the water mains in the Pinecrest Properties Addition. The Engineer also stated that as of yet he has not talked to Dunkley Surfacing on the feasibility of surfacing the walkway by Edgewood Jr. High School. Mayor Rustad excused Engineer Boehm from the meeting. Residents Requests and Comments: Ray Jones from Superior Oil Company presented a proposal to abandon a service road on the property at TH #10 and Highway Avenue. A representative from Country Kitchen, et al were present also. Some discussion ensued at which time the Mayor suggested that the Mr. Jones return at the agenda meeting to discuss the prospect of the abandonment of the service road at greater length. Country Kitchen would like to construct a restaurant up to the property line. Mayor Rustad's Report Mayor Rustad read an invitation from Lake Region Blue Line Club in which a member of the Council or Recreation Committee was invited to a breakfast May 3rd at 8:00 A.M. to discuss the new ice arenas. Mayor Rustad also read the Planning Commission minutes of April 15th. 2 MSP (Blanchard /Hodges) To approve the subdivision request for Elmer Trefethen to divide Lot 134 Spring Lake Park Hillview Addition into the N 85' and the S 80' 5 Ayes MSP (Malvin /Hodges) To approve the subdivision request for Brentwood Development Company to divide Lot 47 Spring Lake Park Hillview Addition into the N 1/2 and the S 1/2. 5 MSP (Johnson /Malvin) To approve the subdivision request for Brentwood Development Company to divide Subject to road and except the W 2112' and except the E 327.7' the S 162' of the NE 1/4 of Section 6 into a 91' lot and an 80' lot, 30' taken for road. 5 Ay MSP (Blanchard /Hodges) To approve the subdivision request for James Lund to divide in half Lots 13 and 20 Spring Lake Park Hillview Addition. MSP (Rustad /Malvin) Mayor Rustad moved that the Village Attorney be instructed to review our present zoning ordinances and to do the necessary research to prepare appropriate amendments to our ordinance regarding rehearing on zoning matters that have been previously denied by the Council. 5 Ayes MSP (Blanchard /Johnson) To deny the rezoning request from R1 to B3 for William Gillespie, 2045 Highway #10. The S 300' of Lot 61 Auditors Subdivision #89. 5 Ayes MSP (Malvin /Hodges) To approve the Herbst rezoning request from R1 To B3 for the land generally located 1,000' NW of the intersection of County Road H and Highway #10. Legal description: All that part of the SW 1/4 of the SE 1/4 of Section 8, Township 30, Range 23 lying SWly of right -of -way of STH #10 and N of a line running parallel with and distant 958.59' N of the Sly line of said 1/4 1/4 Section line; except Part of the SW 1/4 of the SE 1/4 of Section 8, Township 30, Range 23 described as follows: Beginning at the intersection of the N line of the SW 1/4 of the SE 1/4 of Section 8, Township 30, Range 23 and the SWly right -of -way of STH #10; thence W along said N line 125'; thence S at right angles to said N line 105'; thence E parallel to said N line to the SWly right -of way line of said Highway; thence NWly along said right -of -way line to the point of beginning. 5 Ayes 5 Ayes Clerk Administrator Zylla's Report MSP (Johnson /Malvin) To approve the following licenses Excavating United Sewer and Water; General Contractor DeVac Sales. 5 Ayes MSP (Rustad /Malvin) To approve the following checks: General checks #3225 -3250 and Payroll checks #817 -844. Total disbursements $12,995.59. 5 Ayes Clerk Zylla announced that he is preparing an instructional sheet on how to compute yourlropTty tax from your tax statement. The sheets should be ready in the Village Hall by Tuesday. Mayor Rustad called the rezoning hearing to order at 8:30 P.M. Mayor Rusted asked for petitions. Harold Hjelle, 5161 Red Oak, presented petitions against the rezoning. 299 names on the petitions. Howard Niesen, 5150 lrondale Road, presented petitions with 129 names against the rezoning. litgo MSP (Blanchard /Malvin) To dispense with the reading of the legal notice. 5 Ayes Clerk Zylla attested to its publication in the New Brighton Bulletin April 17 and 24. Wood Proposal Perry Copeland, attorney, presented the petitioners requests. The project included the development of approximately 75 acres. 19.1 acres to single family dwellings, 21.8 acres to multiple dwellings, 12 acres to town house. development, 13.2 acres to commercial development and 2.18 acres to limited business. People:- Mr. Copeland said that the 391 apartment units would bring in approximately 899 people with an average of 2.3 persons per unit. 98 town houses at 3.2 people per unit would bring in 313 people. 70 homes with 5 persons per unit would bring in 350 people. Total project would bring in 1,562 people. If all homes were constructed the total project would bring in 1,352 people. Taxes 391 apartment units would have a market value of $5,865,000.00. The town houses would have a market value of $2,940,000.00. The homes would have a market value of $2,100,000.00. Commercial area would have a market value of $2,125,000.00 and the limited business area would have a commercial value of $1,000,000.00. Total market value of the project $14,155,000.00. Full and true $4,900,000.00. Assessed value $1,960,000.00. Using the current mill rate the Village would take in from the project $45,080.00. The school district would take in $466,480.00. Schools The number of school age children per unit would range from .1 to .16. The apartments would bring in 51 school age children. The town houses 98 chiidr--n. Homes, 140 children. Total 290 school age children. Cost of educating one child $600.00. Total cost of educating all the children in the project $174,000.00. This would be $292,480.00 less than the school taxes it would produce. School net loss $86,000.00 per year if all homes were constructed. Streets 19 blocks of residential streets would have to be constructed if the land was not rezoned. If the land is rezoned only 6 blocks would have to be constructed. Connection Charges to Sewer NSSSD would get connection charges totaling $116,000.00, for the proposed project. Mr. Copeland stated that the soil and subsoil was bad in some of the area. He said there was a ditch running through the property which would interfere with the economic use of the property for single family homes. Also recreation was provided for by the development. Mr. Copeland concluded his proposal. Mr. Simpson, what about cars? 4 Henry Dyslin, 5092 Brighton Lane, asked are the town houses for sale? Reply Yes. Clement Fountaine, 5167 Red Oak Drive, what assurances development would be as proposed? Village could enforce restrictions if they saw fit. Restrictions could be placed prior to construction or zoning. Ernie Johnson, 8009 Red Oak Drive, what is completion date? Three years completion date, start single family homes on south first. What about recreation? Swimming pools, tennis, tot lots provided. Lloyd Buelt, 5085 Brighton Lane, school children can't utilize theme features. William Lyes, 5054 Sunnyside Road, can they legally ask us to show cause why it can't be rezoned? Attorney answered, Mr. Lyes reference to Sunnyside duplexes not related to this proposal. Gerald Tesch, 5135 Long Lake Road, why not build all R -1 first? Street layout would be different. Norman Chervany, 2595 Woodcrest, why does project have to jut so far into residential? Environmentally and socially what will project do? Somebody forgot something in previous meeting. Arguments presented for the proposal while staggering are not important. Objector. Ralph Hanggi, 2475 Woodale Drive, noisy;. Donald Sandstrom, 5130 Greenwood Drive, number of units vacant? Has survey been taken? Does current population justify need? Mayor stated trend to build 1:1 John Simpson, 5046 Eastwood Road, what makes it feasible for apartments and not homes? Pilings. Objects. Mrs. DiGiovanni, 5115 Long Lake Road, is all area F bad? Can people afford rent? Objects to F. Henry Dyslin, will vote for it if stick to proposal. Gary Payment, 5165 Red Oak Drive, opposed. Charles Ross, 5142 Eastwood, enough apartments, objects. John Krawczyk, 5128 Eastwood, can people live that close together? Mr. Copeland stated only three persons per acre over single family homes. Ernie Johnson, storm sewer? Can't go into NSSSD. Is water available? Mayor ruled him out of order. 5 Gerald Tesch, opposed. Who will stand cost of County Roads? Walter Kastner, 5066 Longview, informed rezoning North of Woodale only. Arden Wahlberg, 5092 Red Oak Drive, fewer people would want to move into residential areas. Developer would take out 30 single family permits before they started. Mayor Rustad at this time appointed a committee to study Village zoning with particular attention directed to apartments. Committee Ernie Johnson Roger Nielson Howard Neison Norman Chervany Ed Dropps Don Sandstrom MSP (Rustad/Malvin) To approve the above committee appointments. 5 Ayes Patrick Ubl, 5169 Red Oak Drive, ordinance adopted yet for town houses? No. Jim Nerdahl, 7941 Edgewood Drive, police and fire will increase. Will streets be dedicated? Yes. Keith Harstad asked what about a J pattern for town houses. Would people approve the project then. Mayor Rustad stated that we can't change the proposal at this time. Diane Williams, 5166 Longview, palatable. Motive money. Our motives residential. Pat Gammell, 5080 Longview, what type of students would project bring in? Mr. Copeland, apartments not second class. Mrs. Jean DiGiovanni, not lower grade. Roger Nielsen, 2233 Knoll Drive, interested citizen. How many apartments now and in process? Don Muller, 5115 Greenwood Drive, moved out to Mounds View to get residential. Show of hands: Against: Approximately 110, For: 8 Ernie Gustafson, 2525 County Road I, taxes going up up. Home doesn't pay. Martin Ehrhardt, 5126 Greenwood Drive, wants 30 day delay. People expressed their opinion. Mr. Copeland, very obvious not as many people opposed this time and not as strong. Project not affecting the health, safety and welfare of the Village. Village not run by committees. Mayor Rustad closed the hearing at 9:56 P.M. Comments from the Council: 6 Councilman Blanchard: Mr. Copeland did a good job. I'm least affected. It is easy for him to say it will not bother him. Rights have to be considered and for every right an obligation. We, as Councilmen, have both. As Councilman I would vote in favor for the best interestes of the Village. Councilman Johnson: Saturday I walked the land. Indeed some land appropriate for use other than residential but there are also other areas in the village. Based on percentages we will have a reasonable number of multiple family dwellings without these. I would vote against. Councilman Hodges: I agree with Councilman Johnson. I realize some land area is bad, at least in the Northeast part. Up to hog farm good land use for single family however, if B could be dropped I would vote for it. Councilman Malvin: I've listened to all the complaints, the phone calls and threats. When we had sewer and water people made the same threats. The project is a good thing at:d I am for it. Mayor Rustad: No comment except to disagree with Mr. Copeland. Always felt in matters that concern people they have a choice. More to rezoning than money, would be against. MSP (Hodges /Johnson) To deny the rezoning request. Discussion I will consider my health Blanchard. Copeland Can we resolve something tonight? Not legal or fair was the reply. Hodges Aye Johnson Aye Blanchard Naye Malvin Naye Rustad Aye Councilman Johnson's Report New sewer bill has us in a caretaker position. It is the original bill and it is no good. Councilman Hodges' Report May 6th Recreation Meeting at the Village Hall. Have received numerous requests for use of soft ball diamonds. Attorney Meyers' Report Nordling Terrace vacation of easements requested. MSP (Rustad/Johnson) Permission to prepare necessary documents after approval from Engineer. MSP (Malvin /Hodges) To approve preliminary plat for Eigenheer's 3rd Addition. Small skating rink on property at Greenwood and County Road H discussed. MSP (Johnson /Malvin) To adjourn at 10:08 P.M. Respectfully Submitted, Dennis S. Zyl Clerk Adminis ator