HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes - 1973/04/09A Regular Meeting of the Mounds View Village Council was called to order
by Mayor Neisen at 8:00 P.M. on April 9, 1973, at the Mounds View Village
Hall, 2401 Highway #10, St. Paul, Minnesota 55112.
Present:
Absent:
PROCEEDINGS OF THE VILLAGE COUNCIL
VILLAGE OF MOUNDS VIEW
COUNTY OF RAMSEY
April 9, 1973
Mayor Neisen
Councilman Baumgartner
Councilman Johnson
Councilman Pickar
Councilman Hodges
Also Present:
Clerk- Administrator Zylla
Attorney Meyers
Engineer Bearden
MSP (Baumgartner- Johnson) To approve the minutes of March 26, 1973. 3 Ayes
Pickar Abstained
Resident Requests and Comments from the Floor:
Mr. Rademacher, principal of Pinewood Elementary School, requested that the
Council furnish him with a letter in care of the Ramsey County Board of
Commissioners asking that a semaphore be installed on the corner of County
Road I and Quincy Street. Mr. Rademacher stated that originally the P.T.A.
and several parents had requested stop signs, however, Dean Anklan, Ramsey
County Engineer, has recommended that a semaphore be installed there rather
than stop signs. Mr. Rademacher added that he was planning on attending the
Ramsey County Commissioners meeting with 934 names on a parent petition,
special parent letters, student drawings and letters, letters of support by
the school district office, Mounds View police chief, and the Village Council.
In addition, they were furnishing the Board with an 18 minute video tape of
the intersection. Mayor Neisen read a letter of endorsement from Chief
Grabowski and the Council.
MSP (Neisen- Pickar) To authorize the Mayor to send the letter of endorsement
to the County Board regarding traffic control devices at Quincy Street and
County Road 1.
The Village Council made no commitment as to possible sharing in the costs
of the semaphore.
Ole Bacon, 2265 Highway #10 requested a semaphore fcc County Road I and
Highway #10.
Mayor Neisen's Report
Mayor Neisen read a proclamation declaring April 28th as Village Cleanup Day
noting that several organizations will assist residents in cleaning up their
areas. A newsletter will be mailed to each homeowner.
Mayor Neisen read the Police Report for March.
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In answer to a letter directed to him regarding the poor service provided
by his company in recent weeks, Leo Bruder of J W Pickup Service responded
to questions froi. the Council. Mr. Bruder stated that he felt his problem
was that he was taking too much stuff without levying a charge for it, that
he has had over 40 men working for him that have left his company since
Christmas, and that the men that he has do not work hard enough. Councilman
Johnson asked that Mr. Bruder attempt to solve his problem and added that the
Village is not receiving complaints about the operations of other haulers.
MSP Neisen- Johnson) To call a special hearing to order at 8:39 P.M. to
consider a possible amendment to the gasoline station ordinance. 4 Ayes
Attorney Meyers read the amended ordinance. Mr. Meyers noted that the
major changes that take place by this amendment are that: all storage of
spare parts, tools and tires must be inside the premises, and no vehicle
in a state of disrepair should be stored on the premises. Bob Cheney of
Bbb's Gulf noted that his trash barrel is used by everyone.creating an
unsightly condition of his property. He asked if under the ordinance,
operators could store vehicles needing repair on their premises. The
Council felt that vehicles in need of repair could be stored as long as the
repair could be performed in a reasonable amount of time.
Robert Glazer asked if the ordinance applied to Century Motor Freight.
Attorney Meyers replied that it did not.
Jerry Blanchard, 8005 Groveland Road asked if a car has its engine pulled,
the car must be kept inside the premises. Attorney Meyers replied, "Yes
Mayor Neisen asked Attorney Meyers if a license was required in order to
place conditions on the repair and service of vehicles. Attorney Meyers
replied that it was not.
David Peterson, operator of Dave's Gulf, 2155 Highway Avenue, stated that
every car has a work order and the police could check them to find out
whether a car is being repaired or not. In reply, Attorney Meyers stated
that technically the Village would have to get a warrant to examine work
orders. Moreover, the Council is not in agreement as to how many cars
should be left on the premises.
William Gillespie, 2035 Highway #10, declared that if you regulate one
business you must regulate other businesses as well, including the Bel -Rae
Ballroom.
Councilman Baumgartner said that an ordinance such as this is almost impossible
to enforce and the police have other things to do. He recommended that the
Council adopt two separate ordinances, one dealing with the amendments
suggested above and the other regulating automobile, truck, and trailer repair
with the second ordinance requiring a minimum fee of $1.00 per year.
Harry Gum, 7805 Greenwood Drive, asked what other villages do. Attorney
Meyers said some villages license in this manner, some communities license
a multitude of businesses.
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Andy DeGross, owner of Long Lake "66" suggested that the police ask owners
to clean up their premises.
Mayor Neisen stated that what was needed was an ordinance with some meat in
it.
MSP (Johnson Pickar) To adjourn the hearing at 9:24 P.M. 4 Ayes
Council decided that they were unable to reach any agreement regarding this
problem and informed everyone in the audience that they would be notified at
least two weeks prior to the adoption of any proposed change in the ordinance
if such change took place.
Mayor Neisen called the hearing to consider amending Chapter #100 of the
Municipal Code to order at 9:25 P.M.
Attorney Meyers read the proposed amendment which dealt with the regulation
of obscene or immoral activities which are conducted on premises licensed
to sell intoxicating liquor. The ordinance was a direct attempt to control
lingerie shows. Attorney Meyers stated that the language for the proposed
ordinance amendment came from the California Supreme Court ruling of LaRue
versus California, December 5, 1972. He stated that the regulated acts could
be viewed, and upon complaint and proof, the liquor license could be suspended
or revoked. Furthermore, that a liquor license is not a vested right but a
privilege, and an attempt to control obscene activities that occur in an
establishment that serve intoxicating liquor is both reasonable and enforceable.
A gentleman, (who refused to give his name), inquired as to whether or not
a woman that was bra -less would be regulated. The answer was "no as long
as she was covered. Mr. Anthony Donatelle asked, if bra and panties were
worn by a girl, if it was okay. The reply was that this was not illegal by
this ordinance, provided the parts mentioned were not displayed.
Mr. Charles Hall, owner of the Mermaid stated that he has seven lingerie
shows per week, and that in order to make his business successful, he has
to draw business outside of Mounds View. He said that models represent about
1/6 of his business volume. Over 8,000 persons per month go through the
Mermaid. He did not find objections to the Council requiring that dancing be
performed on stage, but asked that transparent or opaque covering be allowed
for the top and bottom rather than requiring only opaque covering. He added
that everyone in the establishment was of legal age and that the show was a
well run operation. His business has increased over 70% since May 1, 1972 when
he obtained ownership. And, he needs to remain competitive with St. Paul or
his business volume will decrease. He declared that the police chief has
said there have been few problems at the Mermaid since he assumed ownership.
Jack Wallace, counsel for the Mermaid said that he had attended two shows a%
the Mermaid. He did agree with Attorney Meyers general conclusion on the
Villages regulatory powers. However, he added that he has been at other bars
where persons are more discourteous and the language has been worse. He felt
that the lingerie show had a quieting effect; that the men were controlled.
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He asked if the Village has had specific complaints. He did agree that
dancing on tables was "bad news but his client has separated the dancing
and the show from the dining room so persons not wanting to view the show
will not be exposed to it. Since Mr. Hall assumed ownership it is now the
kind of place he could take his wife. According to Mr. Wallace, the St.
Paul ordinance was in two parts, regulating one who serves and any customers.
He felt that the courts would not support th^ covering of the breast with
an opaque cover. He asked whether the complaints were affecting the
community and where is the problem? He told the Council that their approach
was severe.
Dorothy Freyburger, 5178 Longview Drive, added that Mr. Hall had not asked
her to come to the hearing and she has worked for Mr. Hall for about ten
weeks and there have been no fights or problems while she was employed there.
Phyllis Blanchard, 8005 Groveland Road, stated she was against the ordinance
because she was against censorship.
Councilman Pickar asked if it was only Paragraph "G" that concerned Mr. Hall.
In reply, Attorney Meyers declared that the ordinance was modeled from St.
Paul except that section "G" differs with St. Paul's wording of "transparent
or opaque In Mounds View's proposed ordinance any display to public view
is prohibited.
Councilman Baumgartner asked if the Council could control covering by
requesting opaque cover. Attorney Meyers stated that in the regulation of
liquor the Council can lass reasonable regulations. The Supreme Court did
not rule on transparency per sa.
Mayor Neisen stated that he had received six or seven calls before he went
to see the show and about 15 to 20 calls since, three in favor of the show.
He became disgusted at the dancing on the tables and the language that took
place by the announcer. He felt any person should be prohibited from dancing
on any table or bar not just any employee and that the dancers should be at
least three feet away from any person. He would allow transparency on the
breasts, but favored an opaque covering of the pubic area.
Charles Hall stated that he would like the girls to be able to wear transparent
panties. Councilman Baumgartner said he would agree to transparency on top
with the double transparency on the bottom, meaning transparent panties covered
by a negligee.
Councilman Johnson said he had attended the show recently and he found the
announcer vulgar. He was more offended by his language than by the girls.
Councilman Pickar said he was impressed by the police surveillance of the
area and has found talking to the police chief that there have been less
problems since Mr. Hall assumed ownership. He wants to regulate the lingerie
shows, but wants to see Mr. Hall's business remain in competition with other
businesses. He also favored the double transparency.
Motion (Neisen) To amend Section "G" of Om proposed ordinance that a
transparent covering be allowed for the breast, but requiring opaque covering
for the pubic area with a stage placed at least three feet away from any
customers. There was no second to the motion.
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MSP Pickar- Baumgartner) To amend the ordinance to require transparency
on the top and double transparency on the bottom with a stage three feet
away from any customers.
MSP (Johnson Pickar) To incorporate into the ordinance that the models
would be allowed to circulate through the aisles, but that dancing should be
restricted to at least three feet from any patron.
MSP (Baumgartner- Johnson) To adjourn the special hearing at 10:28 P.M. 4 Ayes
A three minute recess was called by the Mayor.
Mr. Edward Donatelle asked the Council if they had adopted the new license
fees for on -sale intoxicating liquor. He felt license fees were high enough.
Mayor Neisen read parts of a survey of license fees taken recently. He felt
that $3,800.00 was not out of line since there had not been a raise in the
fees for 13 years and police patrol costs have increased substantially since
the first license fee of $2,500.00 was adopted.
The Council felt to expect the four on -sale intoxicating liquor establishments
to pay approximately the full cost of one patrolman was reasonable. Mayor
Neisen said that the Mounds View's police budget was $150,900.00 for nine
patrolmen.
Councilman B
artner's Re.ort
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Councilman Baumgartner read a portion of the Planning Commission minutes of
March 28th. Mr. Richard Newman, representing Paster Enterprises, was in
attendance. Councilman Baumgartner stated that the Planning Commission
recommended the Council set a public hearing to rezone the Paster property for
a shopping center.
Robert Glazer asked that the Council consider a public informational hearing
previous to the regular Council hearing on the proposal in order to give
citizens time to react to the proposal. Mr. Newman said they were anxious to
start with the project as soon as possible, but would attend such an informa-
tional hearing.
MSP Neisen- Johnson) To set a public hearing for rezoning from B -1 to B -3
for Paster Enterprises at 8:30 P.M., April 23rd, for the property described:
N 200' of unplatted lands ex N 33' and E 33' for County Road 1 and
Long Lake Road and ex SWly 150' part of NE'k of cl of STH 10/62 in
7/30/23. Generally located South of County Road I a distance of
200' between Long Lake Road and TH 10.
Council authorized a public information hearing for April 18th provided that
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Neisen Naye
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the meeting is sanctioned by the Planning Commission and directed by a duly
authorized Planning Commission or Council member.
Clerk- Administrator Zylla's Report
MSP (Nelsen- Johnson) To authorize Attorney Meyers to prepare an amendment
to the Municipal Code increasing the on -sale intoxicating liquor license fee
from $2,500.00 to $3,800.00 per year. 4 Ayes
MSP (Picker- Baumgartner) To approve the following licenses: Cement John's
Construction Co.; Garbage /Rubbish J W Pickup Service; General Contractor
Fred E. Rehbein Construction Corp.; Heating Commercial Air Conditioning
Inc. 4 Ayes
MSP (Baumgartner Pickar) To approve the transient merchants licenses for
Donald Rudkin, 8150 Eastwood to sell produce and Charles Schultz, 7581 Spring
Lake Road to sell burglar alarms and fire detectors. 4 Ayes
MSP (Neisen Pickar) To approve the following bills: General Fund checks
#7170 thru #7212, Payroll checks #231 thru 252, Payroll Account checks #1011
thru 1013 and check #7213 transferring $9,664.34 to Payroll Account to pay
gross pay of April 15, 1973 from: General $7,897.17, Water $1,057.67,
Sewer $709.50. Total disbursements $27,365.48. 4 Ayes
Clerk Zylla announced that the audit for the year 1972 was received from the
public accounting firm of George M. Hansen Company.
MSP (Neisen Johnson) To receive petitions for sewer, water and street
improvements for the West 350' approximately of Lots 2, 3, and 4, Auditor's
Subdivision #89 from Brentwood Development Company.
MSP (Neisen- Johnson) To direct the engineer to prepare a preliminary report
and cost estimate on extending sewer, water, Street, drainage, and storm sewer
for all north south streets north of Ardan Avenue extending to County Road J,
including proposed Pleasant View Drive, Knollwood Drive, Fairchild Avenue,
Sunnyside Road, and Greenwood Drive. (Project 1973 -4).
MSP (Pickar Baumgartner) To adopt Resolution #599 apportioning the assessments
on Division 46202. 4 Ayes
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MSP (Neisen- Johnson) To adopt Resolution No. 600 describing the position of
Clerk- Administrator. 4 Ayes
Councilman Johnson's Report
MSP (Johnson Pickar) To approve the master contract between the Village of
Mounds View and Local No. 49 and to authorize the Mayor and Clerk to sign it. 4 Ayes
MSP (Johnson- Baumgartner) To authorize the Vi "age of Mounds View to enter
into the suit relative to the SAC charge as a party defendant and to send a
letter to David Larsen, Sewer Advisory Board Chairman, indicating Village
participation at no expense. 4 Ayes
Councilman Johnson stated that street sweeping south of Highway 10 was almost
completed.
Councilman Baumgartner's Report
Councilman Baumgartner stated that Ken Simmons will be at the Recreation
Committee meeting on April 26th. He also thanked the Mounds View snowmobile
club for their recent $300.00 donation which is allocated to park improvements.
Councilman Baumgartner read the Planning Commission minutes of March 28th.
MSP (Baumgartner Pickar) To approve the subdivision request of Glen Baxton
to divide Lot 1, Block 6, Laport Meadows into the north 120 feet thereof
and except the N 120 feet thereof subject to the payment of $986.40 in
additional assessments.
Councilman Pickar's Report
Councilman Pickar said that sand seeding would take place at Lakeside Park
this year. In addition, Spring Lake Park School District will assist the
Commission in hiring life guards.
Attorney Meyers" Report
Having investigated the Village's ability to fund Rick Rosow's salary as an
employee of the school district, Attorney Meyers stated that the joint powers
agreement between Mounds View and other communities has been terminated and
there is no written agreement to fund this expenditure. In fact, to do so
may be an illegal expenditure.
Clerk Zylla is to notify the school district of Attorney Meyers finding.
Attorney Meyers presented copies of Ordinance No. 200 renumbering certain
residences and businesses in the Village effective September 1, 1973.
MSP (Johnson Pickar) To adjourn at 11:45 P.M. 4 Ayes
,Respectfully Submitted,
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Dennis S. Zyll
Clerk- Administrator
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