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PROCEEDINGS OF THE VILLAGE COUNCIL
VILLAGE OF MOUNDS VIEW
COUNTY OF RAMSEY
A Regular Meeting of the Mounds View Village Council was called to order by
Mayor Neisen at 8:00 P.M. on July 9, 1973, at the Mounds View Village Hall,
2401 Highway #10, St. Paul, Minnesota 55112.
Mayor Neisen
Councilman Hodges
Councilman Johnson
Councilman Baumgartner
Councilman Pickar
Also Present:
Deputy Clerk Sandgren
Attorney Meyers
Engineer Bearden
MSP (Hodges Baumgartner) To approve the minutes of June 25, 1973. 4 Ayes
Picker Abstained
Residents Requests and Comments from the Floor
A resident living in the Dailey Homes Addition presented a petition for street
lights in that area. The Council accepted the petition and Councilman Johnson
informed the audience that NSP had the comprehensive street lighting plan for
that area. The proposal has been in for some time and hopefully the
lights would be installed soon.
A resident inquired as to the procedure for extending Greenwood Drive north to
Ardan Avenue. Mayor Neisen told him a petition would have to be presented to
the Council, signed by at least 35% of the land owners.
Mayor Neisen's Report
Mayor Neisen reported that the Clerk was on vacation and his assistant was
attending the Council meeting.
Mayor Neisen read the Police Report for June.
MSP (Johnson Pickar) To award the bid for the 1973 squad car to Midway Ford
for $3,100.
5 Ayes
Mayor Neisen explained that no companies would bid when we went through the
Ramsey County Purchasing Department. One other bid was received from Art
Goebel Ford $3,100. Midway Ford's car had the correct engine size desired
Mid size V -8 therefore their bid was accepted.
Mayor Neisen read a letter from Mr. G':'n VanWormer, District Traffic Engineer
relative to traffic control of Trunk Highway 10 at County Road I and Long Lake
Road and the proposed new shoppir, ::enter.
MSP Neisen- Hodges) To hire Mr. Victor Hansen as part time assistant building
inspector effective July 5 at a salary of $4.50 per hour with an automatic
increase of $5.00 per hour effective January 1, 1974. In addition to his
regular hourly rate, an automobile allowance of $25.00 per month. No other
salary increase will take effect January 1, 1974.
Upon the request of Councilman Johnson, Mayor Neisen amended the motion to
read 20 hours per week.
5 Ayes
Mayor Neisen read a letter of resignation from Ralph Hanggi, Jr.
MSP (Neisen- Pickar) To accept the resignation of Ralph Hanggi Jr. as building
custodian effective July 16th and to hire Richard Madsen effective that same
date at a monthly salary of $60.00 per month. 5 Ayes4
Mayor Neisen reported that Thompson Plumbing has dug up 7760 Greenwood Drive
twice in hooking up the sewer service. The first time they dug it was wet
and they did not know how to dry it up so they covered it up and left. The
second time they dug it up it was wet around the pipe and Jim Schlichtmann
refused to give a satisfactory inspection until he could'.see the connection.
They covered the pipe and left. They have been told to come back and allow us
to see the connection since June 22nd and we have met little response only
promises.
MSP (Neisen- Johnson) To hold a hearing to revoke Thompson Plumbing's Sewer
and Water License in accordance with 60.02, Subdivision 8 of the Municipal
Code for August 6, 1973 at 7:30 P.M.
The office was directed to send a notice of the hearing to Thompson Plumbing,
Mayor Neisen reported that Keith Harstad was in last Monday evening and he
will take care of the drainage problem south of County Road H2 between Red Oak
Drive and Sunnyside Road this fall.
Mayor Neisen reported that the boy scouts did not want the white garage and
Clerk Zylla was granted the authority to have someone else take it. Mayor
Neisen presented his bill for attending the League meeting at Alexandria and
returned a refund check for $27.75.
Deputy Clerk Sandgren's Report
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5 Ayes
MSP (Hodges- Johnson) To approve the licenses: Asphalt Carl B. Anderson
Blacktopping; Excavating Beyer's Excavating, Bollig Sons, Inc., Schulze
Excavating Grading; General Contractor Balsiger Contracting Co., Culligan
Water Conditioning, Rite -Way Engineering Co., American Burner Service, Inc.;
Heating St. Marie Sheet Metal Inc., Clarence E. Nelson Heating A.C.,
Standard Heating A.C., Neil Hubbard Heating A.C., The Kimball Company,
Inc.; Sewer Water Waalen and Sabby, Inc. 5 Ayes
MSP (Pickar Hodges) To approve the bills: General Fund checks #7449 thru #7492.
Payroll Account checks #1029 thru #1031. Bond Account checks #103 and #104.
Payroll checks #389 thru #413. Total disbursements $140,809.43. Also transfer
check #7493 transferring $9,700.03 to the Payroll Account to pay gross pay of
July 15th, 1973. From General $7,548.28, from water $1,368.92, from sewer
$782.83. 5 Ayes
Councilman Hodges Report
Councilman Hodges inquired of Councilman Pickar whether he had been contacted
by the people whose car was hit by the globe which fell from the light at
Spring Lake. He had been contacted.
Mayor Neisen noted that a neighbor to Councilman Hodges had called that a pants
suit had been ruined due to the bad color of the water. He has had many reports
of bad, smelly water. Mayor Neisen inquired to Engineer Bearden whether he
had been directed to investigate. Engineer Bearden reported that Clerk Zylla
was to meet with the Health Department first. No one was aware that he had
done this as yet.
MSP (Neisen- Johnson) To direct Engineer Bearden to check by any means possible
to find out the cause of the bad water situation. 5 Ayes
It was, stated that most of the calls were coming from south of Highway #10
or the Twelve Oaks area.
Councilman Johnson's Report
Councilman Johnson reported that there will be a Labor Relations Workshop
on August 3, 1973 sponsored by the Association of Minnesota Counties, League
of Minnesota Municipalities, Metropolitan Inter- County Council and the
Metropolitan League of Municipalities. An analysis of the impact of Minnesota's
amended Public Employment Labor Relations Act will cover the following topics:
the right to strike for nonessential employee groups, binding arbitration of
contract negotiation impasses involving essential employees, rules and
procedures of the Public Employment Relations Board, rules and procedures of
the Bureau of Mediation Services and the role of elected officials.
MSP (Neisen-Hodges) To send the registration fee of $12.00 for Councilman
Johnson to attend the Labor Relations Workshop at the Radisson South on
August 3, 1973.
Councilman Baumgartner's Report
Councilman Baumgartner read the Park Recreation Meeting report. He stated
that they would wait to make a motion to hire a full time park director until
there had been more discussion on the matter, as to where the money would come
from to pay him.
MSP (Johnson- Hodges) To recess the regular meeting at 8:30 P.M.
Mayor Neisen called the Drainage Information Hearing to order at 8:30 P.M.
Deputy Clerk Sandgren read the letter sent on June 27, 1973 informing residents
in the drainage ditch area of the hearing.
Mayor Neisen turned the meeting over to Engineer Bearden who presented a map
and explained the drainage situation at the Greenwood Drive and Sherwood Road
area.
Delores Fehlderg, representing her mother, Nellie Dormeier who lives at 8171
Eastwood Road inquired why the two obvious lots were omitted in the shaded area,
who were the people affected, and when were the houses built. Engineer Bearden
explained that this was an old drainage map from 1964 which showed the drainage
boundary, The two lots omitted had been split and only the back half was where
the problem was. The ditch which runs along Greenwood Drive was made in 1964
5 Ayes
MSP (Baumgartner Pickar) To request Clerk Zylla to obtain estimates from three
other planning consultants for a revised comprehensive plan. 5 Ayes
5 Ayes
when sanitary sewer went in and the houses were built in 1969 and 1970.
Conrad Dumke -of -8045 Greenwood Drive wanted proof that his lot drained into
the area. He said his lot drains south. He inquired if the map could be
challenged since it was an old map and not a new survey map.
Mayor Neisen commented that this was purely an informational hearing. If he
wanted a water drainage survey to see where his lot drains, they would have
to make a new map, This would cost money. So far no money has been expended.
Bill Frits of 8072 Long Lake Road inquired what purpose was being served by
the catch basin at the southwest corner of Long Lake Road and Sherwood'Road.
He said the grade level of the road was changed in 1967 or 1968 when Long
Lake Road was paved and the drainage changed to a northerly flow instead of
a southerly flow.
Mayor Neisen defended Engineer Bearden in that he had only served as Village
Engineer since April and was not familiar with happenings several years ago.
Paul Fedor, Sr. of 8030 Long Lake Road stated that a new highway would be
going in, in the near future and perhaps all their planning now would be
changed.
Mayor Neisen stated it may affect the flow north of County Road J.
John Piciorek of 8065 Eastwood Road inquired as to how many homes had made
complaints. Mayor Neisen replied three homes.
Mayor Neisen again explained that this was just an informational hearing
and no assessments would be put on this evening.
Mr. Hansen a resident of Fridley, but speaking for Nellie Domeier stated
that she had no problem.
Mayor Neisen explained that some part of each property owners land drains
into this area.
Mrs. Nordstrom of 8050 Greenwood Drive wondered why they should be burdened
when these people chose to build where they did, why a house 5 feet from
them would have problems. Mayor Neisen answered it could be the contour of
the land.
Duane McCarty of 8060 Long Lake Road stated he had no water problems and he
lives close to the ditch. He wondered if he would be assessed or not. He
doesn't want to pay for other peoples problems and asked why a building permit
was issued in the first place if there are water problems in the area.
Gordon Barnes of 8031 Greenwood Drive wondered why the builder wasn't told
the water table when he applied for a permit to build.
Robert Pearson, 2415 Sherwood Road said there were two things that bothered
him. There is no assurance the problem will be clearal up if this were done
and it bothered him that the whole village wasn't included. Why are just
these in this area singled out?
Conrad Dumke inquired if the law says only the persons in the drainage area
should pay for this. Mayor Neisen commented that it's an area problem and
only the people in the area pay for it.
Mrs. K. Larson of 2401 Sherwood Road questioned the $15,000 cost for conduit
and the $1,000 for cleaning out the ditch. Why not clean the ditch out she
would get a shovel and help, and then tar the bottom 2/3 of the way up.
Engineer Bearden stated these were two alternatives, two extremes of procedure.
It wouldn't be easy to put tar under water.
Delores Fehlderg speaking for Nellie Dormeier felt it was the builders fault
and since the Engineer couldn't guarantee either of these procedures would
work perhaps` sump pumps could be installed to take care of the problem. She
asked the Council for suggestions to solve the problem.
Mayor Neisen stated the Council did not want to dictate to the people. This
was just an informational hearing.
John Lauterbach of 8193 Eastwood Road asked what they would recommend to
solve the problem. Engineer Bearden replied to lower the water table. This
can only be done by putting in storm sewer.
Builder, Vic Loeffler said he had built 15 homes and they were high and dry.
These in question were built too low.
Mrs. Wayne Depew, 2385 Sherwood Road stated they had a sump pump for 1 year
which kicks in every four minutes, but it doesn't do the job. A resident
inquired of Mrs. Depew where the water is coming from. She stated through the
floor.
Conrad Dumke asked why the Village doesn't demand further study before issuing
a building permit to show that there will be no water problems in the future.
In another village where he built, he had to go back 100 years and research
to show proof that he wouldn't have water problems in the future.
Attorney Meyers read from the Statues, Chapter= 429,the law on assessment of
fees, stating assessments were only levied on benefiting property owners.
A resident inquired if the houses could be raised. The attorney stated
municipal money couldn't be used to raise private homes.
Mrs. Lauterback thought the builders should be responsible. She was informed
that after one year the builder is off the hook.
Ole Bacon reported that the condition he had complained about previously is
now correcting itself. He doesn't feel it's always the fault of the builder.
Attorney Meyers reassurred the audience again that this was strictly an
informational hearing. The storm sewer may eventually have to go in the
north area to open the Village up.
Joe Christy, 2365 Sherwood Road remembered the slew until the sewer was put
in. He wondered if a street had been put in somewhere without a culvert that was
holding up the water.
The resident living across the street from the two homes in question wondered
why they had water in the basement and he didn't. He wondered if the ditch
wasn't doing the job or if the house could be standing on a spring.
Raymond Ledo, 2375 Sherwood Road said he built in 1965. Water table high
at that time was at three feet. He put fill on his land and the others should
have done this also.
Mayor Neisen commented that when those houses were built the footings were dry.
A resident suggested capping the catch basin at Greenwood Drive and Sherwood
Road to see if it was doing any good.
The attorney stated that the insurance company wouldn't pay for any damages
that might result.
Tom Dougherty of 2109 Laport Drive questioned who would pay the damages if the
catch basin were capped.
Robert Glazer questioned if a die could be put in the water to see where it
runs.
Engineer Bearden said it could be defined.
Reinhold Markfelt, 2410 Ardan Avenue questioned where the water ultimately
ended up. Engineer Bearden replied it went into a pipe on the east side of
Long Lake Road, then north to Ardan Avenue and eventually goes up to the
highway and runs along new Highway #10 and into the judicial ditch.
Councilman Hodges noted that the water was ponding behind Long Lake Road
and should be eliminated. He thinks they need to do more research on the
problem.
Councilman Pickar asked if the code requires taring of the outside basement
walls. A resident stated that government loans require it, but not conventional
loans.
Mayor Neisen informed the audience that they would be notified of any additional
developments in connection with drainage problems.
MSP (Johnson- Hodges) To recess the Drainage Information Hearing at 9:50 P.M. 5 Ayes
MSP (Pickar-Hodges) To approve the subdivision of Lot 96, Knollwood Park
Addition into 2 lots, one 155' x 126', and one 135' x 126' with a 25'
easement on the south. 5 Ayes
MSP (Neisen- Hodges) To approve the subdivision of Unplatted Lands N 90' of
S 162' of E 528' of W 1056' of NE 1/4 (subj to road) In Section 6, Township
30, Range 23 into two lots. One 90' x 240' and one 90' x 288', subject to
the payment or certification of $2,044.50 in additional assessments which
were deferred in 1971. 5 Ayes
MSP (Baumgartner Johnson) To direct the attorney to prepare an amendment to
the Special Use Permit for Century Motor Freight to change the name of the
firm to Century- Mercury Motor Freight and also permission to erect a 32' x
45' storage building and a 12' x 12' storage tank building on the back of
their property.
Councilman Pickar's Report
Councilman Pickar reported that the Lakeside Park Commission meeting would be
July 12th and the Human Rights Commission June meeting was postponed until
July 24th.
Councilman Pickar stated that Northern States Power would be contacted in
regards to the globe from the light that hit a car.
Mayor Neisen welcomed the new president of the League of Women Voters, Marilyn
Fauehald, and thanked Isabelle Schumacher for the fine work she has done in
the past.
Attorney Meyers' Report
Attorney Meyers reported he is preparing the paper work for a 20 foot permanent
easement for the drainage ditch on the northwest corner of Long Lake Road
and County Road H2 for Willmus Properties and they have also agreed to a
pedestrian bicycle trail on said easement.
Engineer Bearden's Report
Engineer Bearden presented the preliminary report and cost estimate for water
service for the Mounds View Square Shopping Center, Project 1973 -5. Improvement
and assessment hearings are unnecessary since the developer is the only
property owner in the shopping center triangle. The project cost would
be assessed to the property bounded by Long Lake Road, County Road I, and
Highway #10 over the next 13 years.
MSP (Baumgartner- Johnson) To adopt resolution #608 Declaring Adequacy of the
Petition and Ordering Improvements for the Mounds View Square Shopping Center.
5 Ayes
Frank Gadrysh inquired about the proposed Anchor Inn. Mayor Neisen reported
he had understood they were letting their option go back because they couldn't
afford the 11% and 15% interest rates.
MSP (Hodges Pickar) To adjourn at 10:08 P.M.
Respectfully Submitted,
Dorothy Sandgren,
Deputy Clerk
5 Ayes
5 Ayes