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CITY OF MOUNDS VIEW
RAMSEY COUNTY, MINNESOTA
A regular meeting of the Mounds View City Council was called
to order. by Mayor Johnson on May 10, 1976, at 8:05 p.m.,
at Mounds View City Halms, 2401 Highway 10, Mounds View, MN 55112.
Present: Mayor Johnson Also present: Clerk Admin. Achen
Councilman Hodges Attorney Meyers
Councilman Baumgartner Engineer Bearden
Councilman Pickar
Councilman Shelquist was out of town for two weeks.
MSP (Pickar- Hodges) to approve the minutes of April 26, 1976,
regular meeting. 4 ayes
CITIZEN COMMENTS REQUESTS there were none.
Proposed revision of mobile home regulations ordinance was
discussed. Administrator Achen stated that if Council approves
of staff recommended changes presented in memo dated May 4, 1976,
subdivision regulations Chapter 42 can be adopted. These
changes are based upon the Planning Commission's recommendations.
They felt that the fee should be significantly higher. The
question arose as to whether the state has approved an
established method for tie down. Attorney Meyers replied
that the Courts have been applying retroactive regulations,
so he would say that a tie down provision could be made
retroactive. There is nothing wrong with putting it into
this ordinance but a reasonable amount of time would be necessary.
Councilman Pickar asked if it was correct that the state would
control it, but we would require it. The administrator stated
that was correct.
Councilman Hodges sug stipulating what is going to be
required but Admin. Achen said that his staff does not feel
confident enough to take on that responsibility. Councilman
Pickar stated that he would prefer to wait for a while and
get something specific.
MSP (Pickar Baumgartner) to table this matter until further
study is completed and more accurate specifications put in,
i.e. 1) time to convert, 2) types of tie down, 3) check with
the state to see if they have anything that is more specific.
4 ayes
Mayor Johnson recessed the regular meeting and called to order
at 8:23 p.m. the public hearing on the Clara Ford Addition plat.
Admin. Achen stated that this has been reviewed by the Planning
Commission and they recommend approval of the preliminary plat
as presented. The staff recommends approval also. The
Planning Commissior.. requested 5 -foot easements on all three
of the lots.
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MSP (Hodges Baumgartner) to approve the Clara Ford Addition
as recommended by the Planning Commission referred to as
Exhibit A.
Mayor Johnson adjourned the public hearing and called the
regular Council meeting back to order.
Attorney Gerald Frisch, 2350 W. Seventh St., St. Paul, repre-
senting Mounds View Square Shopping Center, asked permission
for the proceedings to be transcribed by a court reporter.
Mayor Johnson replied that it is not the policy of the Council
to allow tape recording devices in the Council Chambers. Such
devices are deemed to be disruptive to the Council's delibera-
tions. The Council has a recording secretary, and the rinutes
are available to all parties interested. Mr. Frisch stated
that he proposed to have a court reporter present or he would
object to being heard on it. The Mayor told him that they
would not allow a court report to be present. Mr. Frisch
stated that they would not appear in this regard then they
will take it by deposition. He wanted his objection noted
in the minutes.
Mayor Johnson recessed the regular meeting and called to order
at 8:30 p.m. the public hearing on Public Improvement Project
1975 -4A. Admin. Achen stated that this improvement began
last year as a result of the floods on the property around
Mounds View Square Shopping Center. To solve the immediate
drainage problem in that area, an emergency improvement under
authority of MN Statutes 429 was begun. The ditch was recon-
structed and the culverts were lowered in the driveway accesses
and under Long Lake Rd. Ramsey County did some ditch recon-
struction work on County Rd. I also. The owners realigned
their roof so the water flowed off the east side of the building.
Some asphalt berming was put around the culvert at the Co. Rd. I
access. The project was not completed because of the early
snow last year.
The property owner originally stated that he would do the
project, but then requested that the city do the job.
Driveways still have to be resurfaced and the ditch banks
stabilized to prevent erosion. This spring the city engineer
evaluated what had to be done, but the construction company
who was to do it went bankrupt. The Council called for this
public hearing, for specifications to be prepared, and bids to
be received. The city has received an informal report from
Banister and Short regarding the proposed comprehensive storm
water management plan. They want to drain this property
northwest rather than southeast, using a storm sewer line.
Their recommendation was to not encase the ditch unless the
highway department absolutely requires it. At such time as
the storm sewer line is installed, it may be possible to remove
the holding ponds that are at the shopping center now. The
staff and the city engineer recommend that the project be
reduced in scope to the extent of eliminating the piping. This
was discussed with the highway department, which tentatively
agrees.
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Engineer Bearden read the feasibility report of April 26, 1976,
to the Council. He then stated that since this report was
prepared, he has spoken with the Highway Department. The project
has been transferred to the Oakdale maintenance office from
the Golden Valley office. They have indicated that it will be
acceptable with a slope on the end 3 -1 and the out slope 2 -1.
This would bring the out slope almost to the curb of the
parking lot and would be somewhat more economical as far as
the construction cost and will provide more storage of water.
On June 25, 1975, a letter of intent of several items of work
to be accomplished was set forth and this was approved by the
City, the property developer and the Rice Creek Watershed
District. This was not completed. For safety and erosion
purposes, it is now necessary to do more in accordance with
the Highway Department's recommendations.
Mayor Johnson asked Eng. Bearden if he was suggesting that
the preliminary cost estimate should now be amended. He
replied, yes, a ditch section can be constructed in place of
the 18" pipe that was proposed. The administrator asked if
we have it officially that the Highway Department is going
to approve it. Eng. Bearden replied, no, but he had talked to
John Sandell, chief engineer at the Oakdale office, and he
indicated on the phone that the 3 -1 slope on the inside and
the 2 -1 slope on the outside would be acceptable.
Mr. Frisch again objected to the hearing. He stated that
there has been a water problem. The record of the Federal
Government shows that during 1975 we had unusually heavy
rainfall, 35.15 for 1975, while the average is 26.2. He
further stated that the area around here has very poor soil.
He objected to the shopping center being assessed, and stated
that any proceedings that are made tonight to assess is
contrary to law. They will seek relief in District Court.
He gave his address and stated that he would like to be
advised of anything further on this particular matter.
The administrator stated that Mr. Frisch had received a copy
of a letter inviting the property owner to the April 26
meeting at which the feasibility report was submitted. However,
no representative of Paster Enterprises attended that meeting.
Mayor Johnson stated that Mr. Frisch's client has not lived
up to many things that he has agreed to. Last spring we had
a real emergency and some restoration had to be made to some
of the neighbors near the shopping center. We have had many
false starts, and nothing gets done. Mayor Johnson pointed
out that Paster Enterprises was going to construct a drainage
pipe and it has not been constructed. Holding ponds were going
to be pumped but the city has to call each time they need pumping.
Mr. Frisch stated that those were half truths. He does know
there is an automatic pump at the present time and they are
functioning_ There were originally some problems because of
the sand. He felt he did not want to respond to anything
as there have been other reasons why they were not done.
Mr. Frisch stated that even your engineer says your past
plans cannot be completed. We have an extremely delicate
��il problem and it has to be handled differently. Given
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the opportunity he will respond to each and every allegation.
He would like to know the findings so that he can respond
appropriately to them.
The Mayor stated that he did think that Mr. Frisch agreed that
something has to be done with the ditch banks. Mr. Frisch
stated that he felt that the problems lie on both sides. On
the basis of the report he thought it was contrary to law
the south side of County Rd. I doesn't benefit them and that
type of assessment should not be assessed against them. They
will pick up their fair share. If they are given a plan that
is workable they will be happy to do it. We have only 10
acres of land, it may contribute, but it isn't reasonable for
the whole problem. It is an act of God once every 20 years.
They are happy to cooperate, they want to solve the problem,
too, but don't want to pick up the whole tab. The administrator
stated that the assessment has not been levied. The city has
expended a considerable amount of money and no funds have been
received from the benefitting property owner. The citizens of
Mounds View's taxes are providing interim financing for these
improvements.
Engineer Bearden stated that there was a bid opening scheduled
for today which was postponed and tentatively scheduled for
May 24 at 11:30. We can then modify the plans to have a ditch
section in lieu of the pipe section, and open bids two weeks
from today. He stated that this will include specifications
that are acceptable to the Highway Department. Mayor Johnson
asked, to stabilize the ditch banks, how much money are we
talking about? Eng. Bearden replied probably about $15,000.
Mr. Frisch then stated that they wanted to cooperate but do
not want to bear the entire burden. His clients have committed
themselves to spending some money, but it is not just us that
has caused the problem. If we can't work something out, we
will challenge the proceedings. We are willing to participate
and hope to be included in all meetings and will be ready at
any time to proceed in that way. We want extensive communication
between the City of Mounds View and Paster Enterprises.
Mayor Johnson asked: What will you do?
Mr. Frisch replied that he could not answer that question.
He would defer that information to professionals. They will
cooperate when all experts are together. We know there is a
problem but it isn't exclusively my client's problem.
Mayor Johnson asked what do they suggest that we do next. Mr.
Frisch replied that more people than just his clients should
be required to bear the expense. It is the whole community's
problem.
Mayor Johnson read the July 11, 1975, letter from Paster
Enterprises requesting the city to do the ditch work. He
then stated that on July 14, 1975, Ordinance 231 was p.tssed.
It was adopted as a result of this letter. His recommendation
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is that the work which is not done should be completed and
finish the project. Atty. Meyers stated that the thing to
do under these circumstances is to complete the original
project based on the request of the owner. You should do only
that which is necessary to complete what you authorized in
view of the fact that you have a more long range improvement
for that section of the city. If you do not feel that you are
in a position to act this evening you may continue this meeting.
Admin. Achen stated that the city has expended $9200 so far,
and the work done by city forces is not included in this figure.
MSP(Johnson- Hodges) that we direct the engineer to go back to
the work which was originally proposed last summer and that a
review of the work be made, see what has been accomplished to
date, and that a proposal be made as to what work needs to
be done in order to complete the work necessary to finish the
project as originally conceived and have a report ready for
Council May 24.
Mr. Frisch then stated that he had no objection to the hearing
but if you have anything in advance of the meeting we would
like communication on it. He intends to cooperate. He
further stated that he has seen the result of $9000 and does
not think that another $9000 will solve the problem. They
will bring their profcccinnalc and offer their recommendations.
Ed Paster spoke to the Council regarding Paster Enterprises
holding up their end of the bargain, i.e. a first -class
operation, hiring the best architects, worked with the Council
on the landscaping, cooperated with the overall program. They
have made substantial commitments to Mounds View, got the
stoplights put in there, done a great many things that were
difficult. They would be happy to get rid of that water, they
did what they were told to do, all their expensive sod washed
into the drainage ditch. However, it is a problem that is
total area wide. They cannot be responsible for the overall
problem. All they have done is respond to your requests. Just
because the problem is not resolved does not mean they haven't
cooperated.
A roll call vote was requested:
Councilman Shelquist absent
Councilman Hodges aye
Councilman Baumgartner aye
Councilman Pickar aye
Mayor Johnson aye
Motion carried.
Mayor Johnson adjourned this public hearing until May 24 at
8:30 p.m.
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Mr. Frisch and Ed Paster requested that this hearing be con
tinu.d another four weeks as Mr. Paster will be out of town
on May 24th. Mayor Johnson asked the Council's pleasure.
Councilman Hodges stated that he would hate to see it because
of the problem with the rain it shouldn't wait until June 14.
The administrator stated that if that were the case the earliest
we could begin the project would be July. Councilman Baumgartner
stated that he was not in favor of any special meetings on
agenda nights. Like to have it at a Council meeting with
everyone present.
Mayor Johnson stated that the public hearing will be continued
May 24 at 8:30 p.m. He recessed the special hearing and called
to order the regular Council meeting at 9:40 p.m.
BOISVERT DUPLEX DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. Mr. Boisvert appeared
representing Boisvert Builders. Atty. Meyers read the agreement
to the Council. Mr. Boisvert stated that he had no objections
to the agreement.
MSP (Johnson Hodges) to adopt Resolution No. 732 authorizing
the Mayor and the administrator to sign this development
agreement on behalf of the city, contingent upon receiving
a cash bond or corporate surety bond subject to approval of
such by the City Attorney.
MINOR SUBDIVISION REQUEST OF CHARLES HUTCHENSON FOR PROPERTY
generally located at southwest corner of Knollwood /Ardan Avenue
intersection. Admin. Achen explained that the individual
representing the property owner could not attend. This subdi-
vision is based upon acquisition of a parcel of city land
in order to provide a total parcel of sufficient size.
Atty. Meyers stated that the city acquired that parcel through
conveyance of forfeited lands, conveyed for highway and utility
purposes. He did not know what kind of a deed they could give.
It can be done but the parcel has to be reconveyed back to
the state. They can convey it to the people. We don't have
to have an appraisal because we will not get any of the benefits
anyway. The parties interested should go to the state first
and find out under what terms they would be able to get the
property. It would be an assistan' to the property owner to
grant the subdivision.
4 ayes
MSP (Baumgartner Pickar) that the City agree to convey to the
state this parcel of land with the understanding that the
state will then be free to convey that parcel, less the City's
street right -of -way, to the parties involved. Further, that
the City conditionally approve the proposed subdivision with the
use of this property as recommended by the Planning Commission.
4 ayes
Mayor Johnson recessed the meeting at 10:06. The meeting was
called back to order at 10:20 p.m.
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MINOR SUBDIVISION OF GEORGE HERDA OF PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED
AT 8345 8335 FAIRCHILD AVE. The administrator explained
that the Planning Commission has reviewed this and recommended
approval. The staff recommends approval according to the
recommendations of the Planning Commission which included
a 5 -foot utility easement. Anything that has to be deeded
is required of the subdivider.
MSP (Hodges Pickar) to follow the recommendations of the
Planning Commission and approve the minor subdivision of
George Herda generally located at 8345 and 8335 Fairchild Ave.
4 ayes
PROPOSED REVISION OF SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS ORDINANCE. The
administrator stated that this was tabled at the last meeting.
The Council has now received proposed revisions of the original
draft, where in a minor subdivision a subdivider is now required
to have a surveyor's certificate with all of the information
that is on the preliminary plat. This change in the ordinance
still allows the Council the option anytime it deems appropriate
to acquire a subdivision to be platted. The staff feels
that this would expedite the subdivision process in those not
creating more than one additional lot or covering more
than two acres. They attorney has recommended that variances
to the ordinance be allowed.
MSP (Baumgartner Hodges) that we approve the subdivision regulations
as presented with amendments in the memo from the administrator
to the Council of May 4, 1976.
Councilman Baumgartner stated that he felt that we should add
some variance stipulation.
Motion was amended to add a new subdivision to 42.15, that
subdivision to read:
Subdivision 2. Variance. The Council may grant a
variance of these subdivision regulations in any
particular case where the subdivider can show that
by reason of exceptional topography or other physical
conditions the strict compliance with these regu-
lations could cause an exceptional and undue
hardship on the enjoyment of a substantial property
right, provided such relief may be granted without
detriment to the public welfare and without impairing
the intent and purpose of this Chapter.
Subdivision 2 in the draft should be renumbered to Subdivision
3. In paragraph 1, the word "variance" should be added prior
to the word "exception Paragraph 3 should be amended to
include the word "variance
Amendment carried 4 ayes
A vote on the main motion was requested. 4 ayes
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LICENSES FOR APPROVAL Admin. Achen read the licenses presented
for approval (attached). He also mentioned that Robert W.
Raes, 7715 Eastwood Drive, wanted a license to sell Mexican
paintings and homemade rugs on the corner of Eastwoo' and
County Rd. I and the corner of Highway 10 and Co. Rd. H -2.
Further, Delores Saunders has registered an objection to
the denial by Council to sell paintings on velvet.
MSP (Baumgartner- Hodges) to approve the licenses as printed
on the attached list.
Mayor Johnson stated that perhaps further consideration should
be given to Mr. Teslow's request to sell Mexican articles. Someone
comes in and sells flowers and never bothers to come in and
ask. Either we are going to deny and make sure others don't
get to sell or people that bother to apply should be given the
opportunity.
The administrator stated that the police have chased off sellers
who do not have a license. Perhaps they should also issue
tickets
MSP (Johnson Baumgartner) that we deny the license request of
Robert W. Raes because of the traffic problems that would be
created at the two locations at which he is requesting a
license to sell the Mexican paintings and homemade rugs. 4 ayes
Councilman Baumgartner stated that he has objected before
because we have a shopping center that does the same thing,
and these peddlers probably undersell them and do not have
to go through the routine of the others, but the major problem
is the parking problem.
Atty. Meyers reminded the Council of their zon-ng requirements
all that has to be followed regarding parking situations,
lighting, location of signs, etc.
BILLS FOR APPROVAL General Account Checks #12397 12461,
Payroll Account Checks #1264 -1268, Transfer Check #12461
transferring $15,192.47 from General Fund, $1,145.76 from
Water, $1,535.59 from Sewer to pay gross pay of May 15, 1976.
Total disbursements: $41,797.46.
MSP (Hodges Baumgartner) to approve the bills as presented. 4 ayes
ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT
Admin. Achen stated that he recommends Eva Melhouse be appointed
a regular full -time employee, as she will satisfactorily
complete her probationary period May 12 as administrator's
secretary.
MSP (Johnson- Hodges) to appoint Eva Melhouse a regular full
time employee and her compensation level to be commensurate
therewith.
4 ayes
4 ayes
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L I C E N S E S F O R A P P R O V A L
May 10, 1976
GENERAL CONTRACTORS new
David R. Baerg Construction
7030 James Ave. No.
Brooklyn Center, MN 55430
Bernatz Shuldheiss Builders
6008 Ashcroft Ave.
Edina, MN 55424
WATERPROOFING new
National Waterproofing Corp. of MN, Inc.
8736 East Research Center Rd.
New Hope, MN 55428
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COUNCILMAN HODGES had no report.
COUNCILMAN BAUMGARTNER stated that May 27 is the next regular
meeting of Parks and Recreation, but that Doug Bryant wants
to call this a special meeting to try to get more people to
attend and this will be publicized. Further, Jack Shields,
tree inspector, had a presentation on tree disease, with
some beautiful slides, etc. Only two people came and he was
disappointed. They plan to have another in the fall. This
should be publicized as it will be very worthwhile.
COUNCILMAN PICKAR inquired regarding the logo for the Chambers
as to what was decided. Mayor Johnson asked him if he wasn't
going to go back and see if he wanted to do further work on it?
Councilman Pickar asked what they were looking for do you
want me to go back and see if he has ideas? Mayor Johnson
suggested a piece of oak and Councilman Baumgartner said that
it should be discussed at the agenda meeting.
MAYOR JOHNSON stated that last Thursday applications for city
engineer were reviewed and it was narrowed down to five
people. The administrator said that the interview is set up
for May 19 at 7:00 p.m.
Mayor Johnson further stated that the city had Clean Up Day and
want to thank the Council wives and the other volunteers, i.e.
Snowmobile Club, church groups, boy scouts, girl scouts,
brownies, camp fire girls, etc.
Atty. Meyers stated that he is meeting Wednesday morning at
10:45 with the ground water engineer with an appraisor and
an architect to review the building, etc. and make some decisions
as to procedure. He will also have the appraisor look at two
parcels of land acquired in 73 -4. They should not subdivide
but sell the land as is. Further, he has been in court several
times on people connecting to sewers, so he feels we should
review our procedures on this. He has given a copy of the Dumas
assessment to the Council. Also he wants to bring the Council's
attention and the Planning Commission's attention to the
City of Blaine zoning case everyone assumes that B -2 zoning
allows only businesses that serve the neighborhood and the
Supreme Court has found that this is not always binding.
ENGINEER BEARDEN had no report.
Gordon Ziebarth, Chairman of the Bicentennial Commission, said
that he had a question regarding the sign does it have to
be approved by the Council before they publish a legal ad?
Atty. Meyers said that it is the Council's function to advertise
for bids. You are talking two weeks from today to get approval.
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Mayor Johnson said that he could appreciate the time you are
putting in on this. Would you have specs ready for next
week? Mr. Ziebarth replied that he will make every attempt
to do that.
Mayor Johnson then set a special Council meeting for next
Monday evening at 7:00 p.m. for the purpose of reviewing th
final plans and specifications for a new city sign This was
seconded by Councilman Baumgartner.
MSP (Johnson Baumgartner) to adjourn at 11:15 p.m.
Respectfully submitted, p
Mark Achen
Clerk Administrator