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PROCEEDINGS OF THE CITY COUNCIL
CITY OF MOUNDS VIEW
RAMSEY COUNTY, MINNESOTA
A regular meeting of the Mounds View City Council was called
to order by Mayor Pickar at 7:30 PM, March 14, 1977, at the
Mounds View City Hall, 2401 Highway 10, Mounds View, MN 55112.
Members Also
present: Mayor Pickar present: Clerk Admin. Achen.
Councilmember Ziebarth Engineer Hubbard
Councilmember Rowley Attorney Meyers
Councilmember Baumgartner
Councilmember Hodges
MSP (Hodges Baumgartner) to approve the minutes of the February 28,
1977, regular meeting. 5 ayes
CITIZEN COMMENTS AND REQUESTS: Allen Zepper, 5255 Irondale Rd.,
requested a Council INTERPRETATION OF THE CITY ORDINANCE REGULATING
FENCES AROUND SWIMMING POOLS. A citizen had approached Mr. Zepper
with the idea of erecting a 5 foot fence around his entire back
yard and connecting with the house and garage, thereby hoping to
satisfy the ordinance requiring a 5 foot fence around swimming
pools. Mr. Zepper stated the Building Official had taken the
position that this would not satisfy the code requirement and
that a fence directly around the pool would be required in addition
to the fence around tho yard for safety purposes.
Councilmember Hodges stated that there are cases where the City
has allowed the one fence around the yard. However, there is the
safety factor to consider what if the owner leaves the garage
door open and while he's gone neighbor kids wander into the back
yard and into the pool?
Councilmember Ziebarth commented that the major thrust of the
ordinance is for safety purposes. The ordinance was designed to
provide as safe a pool as possible. He asked what accesses there are
to the pool in question?
Mr. Zepper indicated the accesses would be a patio door and
garage door only way to pool is through the house or through
the garage.
Councilmember Baumgartner stated that he feels the ordinance has
been satisfied with the fence around the perimeter, 5 feet tall.
The purpose is safety for children, but the City has done all it
can to satisfy the safety requirements. It is up to the homeowner
to have some sort of mechanism to lock the doors so that a child
cannot unlock it. Councilmember Rowley agreed, stating that the
City can go only so far in protecting the homeowner from himself.
The perimeter fence complies with the ordinance by keeping neighbor-
hood children out as long as it is securely locked.
Councilmembers Ziebarth and Hodges and Mayor Pickar agreed that
two fences is not necessary. Mayor Pickar stated that the City
has to follow the ordinance to the best ability, otherwise the
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City may be liable in case of accident. Mayor Pickar stated
that he would talk to Mr. Rose, Building Official, tomorrow
and get back to Mr. Zepper.
Councilmember Rowley added that if the perimeter fence is to be
a multi -level fence, the higher level must be low enough to the
ground so that a child cannot crawl under. She also stated that
her interpretation of the locked gate requirement is the use of
a padlock on the entrances.
Mayor Pickar acknowledged the presence of the GIRL SCOUTS at the
meeting and commended their interest in local government affairs
Mf;P (Ziebarth- Rowley) for approval of the CONSENT AGENDA.
Councilmember Baumgartner questioned whether the amusement devices
were the pinball type, location and whether there was any supervi-
sion of the devices? Admin. Achen responded that the devices have
existed for some time already. The application indicates they
are not the pinball type. The devices are located on the northwest
leg of the shopping center by a vacant store front. Council questioned
whether all the devices at the shopping center were included under
this license? Admin. Achen responded that staff sent a letter to
the manager of the Mounds View Square Shopping Center informing
him that the machines were in violation of the amusement devices
ordinance and asking him to make the appropriate application. Their
response is the request in front of Council tonight for six devices.
Vote on the motion to adopt the following consent agenda: 5 ayes
ITEM A. Appoint Mike Elleson and Mark Prange as part -time,
temporary Recreation Leaders II to be paid at the rate of
$3.00 per hour.
ITEM B. Adopt Resolution No. 811 reapportioning assessments
for the Greenwood Terrace (Garnet Nelson) major subdivision.
ITEM C. Authorize solicitation of bids for insurance of city
risks (worker's compensation and employer's liability, public
liabilities, property, and loss of income and extra expense
coverage). Bids shall be accepted until 11:00 AM C.D.T.,
Tuesday, April 19, 1977.
ITEM D. Approve March 14, 1977, bills for payment.
ITEM E. Approve the following licenses:
GENERAL CONTRACTORS new
Capp Homes Div. of Evans Products
3355 Hiawatha Ave.
Minneanolis 55406
Gill Hummel
8729 Central Ave. N.E.
Minneapolis 55434
MASONRY new
Englert Cement
7948 Douglas Drive
Brooklyn Park 55443
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EXCAVATING new
Floyd Hoskins Construction Co.
620 123rd Ave. N.W.
Coon Rapids 55433
AMUSEMENT DEVICES new
National Amusement Company for six general devices at
6501 Cambridge St. the Mounds View Square
Minneapolis 55416 Shopping Center
APPOINTMENT OF HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION MEMBERS
Mayor Pickar stated that at the beginning of this year when
commission appointments were made, Council erroneously left off
the name of Dwight Kasperbauer as a member of the Human Rights
Commission. Four of the 7 positions were filled at the beginning
of the year. Since that time, the Commission has been trying
to fill the vacant positions with senior citizens and some high
school students. The Commission is in the process of apportioning
some money to needy senior citizens for energy conservation in
their homes and hopes to use students and senior citizens to
find people who need it the most. We now have more applicants for
the vacant positions than vacancies.
MSP Pickar- Hodges) to appoint Dwight Kasperbauer 8345 Sunnyside
Rd., Andrea Turner 3048 Bronson Drive, and Floyd Linnell 5205
Sunnyside Rd. as permanent members of the Human Rights Commission
and to appoint Gloria Westberg 7906 Greenfield Ave., Louise
Nerdahl 7941 Edgewood Dr., and Felicia Linnell 5205 Sunnyside
Rd. as alternates to the Human Rights Commission.
SALE OF EXCESS TAKING FROM PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT PROJECT 1973 -4
Admin. Achen stated that proposals for purchase of the land were
received from 9 individuals or firms for Lot A, the smaller parcel
on Greenwood Drive, and 8 for Lot B, the larger parcel on Fairchild
Drive. The City's advertisement for the sale indicated we favored
a proposal with payment in full of the special assessments, which
are about $12,793 on Lot B and $32,184 on Lot B. Most offers are
cash; some propose to assume the assessments. The high proposer
is the same on both lots. The per lot bid on Parcel A is quite
high. Parcel B did not come in as high, possibly because of
concern with the cost of future subdivision of the land.
Admin. Achen stated that the proposals have not been made public
as of meeting time, reason being that if Council doesn't wish to
accept any of the bids, Council may wish to keep it confidential-
thus if the parcels are put out on bids at a future time, bidders
would not have to be concerned with beating the offers presented
tonight.
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Atty. Meyers stated that if Council is inclined to accept the high
proposal, he would recommend that the acceptance be contingent
upon his review of the proposal. He stated there is much work
to be done yet with the assessments this is property owned
by the City, the County has taken assessments off the property,
now assessments must be reinstated or other arrangement made for
the assessments. And there may be additional amounts outstanding.
Ron Smith, 14942 Evergreen, introduced himself as one of the
bidders on the property and stated that he submitted his bid
on the basis of a cash offer as the advertisement indicated a
cash offer would be favored. Mr. Smith requested that the
bid amounts be made public.
Atty. Meyers indicated the figures will be available to the
public. Admin. Achen stated he had talked with several proposers
who indicated they would submit two offers one paying cash,
and another assuming assessments. The advertisement stated the
City would favor cash,: it did not require cash. All other factors
being the same, the City probably would favor the cash offer.
Councilmember Ziebarth questioned what affect the additional
amounts the Attorney mentioned would have on the net bid amount?
Admin. Achen explained that if there are any outstanding amounts,
other than the assessments mentioned tonight, that amount would
apply to all bidders, regardless of whether they bid cash or to
assume assessments. If additional amounts are found and they
change the net amount drastically, the whole matter can be dropped
and all bids rejected.
Councilmember Hodges said he favored the high proposer and added
that the City should be sure the buyer understands the fees
involved in the future subdivision process.
Ken Sjodin, 2841 Bronson Drive, stated he had also submitted a
bid. He asked an explanation of why the Council was considering
offers assuming assessments, when the advertisement indicated
cash offers?
Admin. Achen responded that many of the offers just barely covered
the assessments. The City budgeted to net $3,000 per lot. On
Parcel B, only one bid nets at least that amount. On Parcel A,
4 bidders net more than that. Admin. Achen again stated that cash
would be favored with all other factors equal.
Mayor Pickar stated that because the high bid was so much higher
with assumption of assessments, the City has no choice but to
accept the high bid.
MSP Pickar- Baumgartner) to accept the apparent high bid of Wehlast
Bayer for the purchase of both parcels and that the City Attorney
be authorized to negotiate the terms of the sale and to go to
the second high bidder if terms cannot be worked out with the
first high bidder.
Mayor Pickar recessed the meeting for 15 minutes and called it
back to order at 8:40 PM.
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AMENDMENT OF DEVELOPMENT CONTROLS. Admin. Achen stated the purpose
of this amendment is to give the City another tool in negotiating
with developers in that it would allow some development in areas
needing improvements. It proposes that an agreement be signed
with the developer that he acknowledges public improvements will
be required and agrees to pay them, the agreement to be recorded
with the deed so that all future buyers would be aware of the required
future improvements.
Atty. Meyers stated
misinterpreted the
needing improvement
authority to refuse
needed.
he had made some changes to the ordinance. He
staff's desire to allow construction in areas
and revised the ordinance to grant Council
building permits where public improvements are
Admin. Achen stated that he assumed Council already had that
authority to refuse permits. Perhaps it would be beneficial to
have it in writing.
Councilmember Ziebarth questioned the advantages of each proposed
ordinance? What are the ramifications if the City does not issue
a permit?
Atty. Meyers responded that the City is always in the position
of being challenged as to why a permit is not issued and his revision
would give ordinance authority not to issue building permits,
thus giving Council ammunition and grounds for not issuing permits.
Admin. Achen stated that the staff's proposed ordinance, allowing
development prior to the public improvements being constructed,
is modelled after an existing ordinance in the City of Coon Rapids.
Councilmember Ziebarth stated he could see wisdom in having both
ordinances. Mayor Pickar stated the Development Controls amendment
would be held over until the March 28th meeting.
BUILDING PERMIT REQUESTS FOR BONA ROAD DEVELOPMENT
MS (Pickar-Ziebarth) to grant issuance of building permit for two
houses as requested and that prior to any building permits being
issued requirements as outlined in paragraph 2 of the February 25,
1977, letter from Banister Short Elliott Hendrickson and Assoc. Inc.
be met.
Councilmember Baumgartner stated that Keith Harstad had previously
explained that neither of the two homes he had built some time ago
in the area in question had problems witt flooding even in the
spring of 1975, although the water was awful close to doors in
the southerly most house in particular.
Mayor Pickar stated that two houses doesn't make much difference,
but with 3 or more homes the run off from the homes with paved
driveways, etc. does affect the drainage. Banister Short's letter
seems to back this up. Admin. Achen commented that the problem
is where do we draw the line on issuing permits before the improve-
ments are constructed?
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Councilmember Hodges stated that the elevation of the ditch at
Bona Rd. is one foot below elevation of ditch at Hillview. To
get water to drain out at Bona Road would require a lot of work.
Admin. Achen stated that the City is aware of the higher groundwater
table. If we allow the builder to build and in a few years he is
gone and the new owners have wet basements, the owners will complain
to the City. This is the reason for the ordinance staff recommended
the developer would acknowledge the need for improvements and sign
an agreement to pay the cost of the improvements in the future.
Councilmember Baumgartner asked the Administrator to check into
the FHA and GI requirements for the distance of the groundwater
table from the basement level and how current the test data is
that they use.
Atty. Meyers suggested adding to the motion that a copy of the
Banister Short letter of February 25th be forwarded to Mr. Harstad
asking him to submit in writing that he is aware of the implications
and willing to hold the City harmless of any problems that may
occur. Also include requirement that he inform prospective buyers
of the same.
MSP ,CRickar-}Iodges) to direct the Administrator to prepare a
statement for the developer, Keith Harstad, to sign stating
that he absolves and holds the City harmless for future
drainage problems.
Councilmember Ziebarth pointed out that Item 7 on the agenda
regarding development controls dealt with this very problem.
Passing on one and acting on the other doesn't make sense.
He stated that he ao,v „ded the m motion simply for the sake
of discussion. He agrees with the amendment, but would like
the main motion voted down.
Mayor Pickar suggested having the signed statement put in
recordable form.
Roll call vote on the main motion:
Councilmember Rowley nay
Councilmember Ziebarth nay
Councilmember Hodges nay
Councilmember Baumgartner nay
Mayor Pickar nay
Councilmember Hodges requested that the Administrator obtain
information on whether Mounds View and /or surrounding communities
require drain tile where there are drainage problems.
3 ayes
2 nays
Motion defeated.
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Atty. Meyers suggested that instead of just dropping the matter,
Council might send a copy of the Banister Short letter to Mr.
Harstad, asking him to review the fourth paragraph and come up
with a proposal in writing for satisfying the requirements.
MSP Pickar- Hodges) to direct the Administrator to send a copy
of the Banister Short February 25, 1977, letter to Mr. Harstad
asking him to put in writing to the City his recommendation
for a solution to the problem this to include a solution to
the physical problem and how he would propose to protect the
City and future buyers of the property.
AWARD DISEASED SHADE TREE REMOVAL AND DISPOSAL CONTRACT
Admin. Achen stated the City received 8 bids for tree removal.
Bids were evaluated on overall average price per inch. Prices
are going up $4.58 /inch last year compared to $4.90 /inch
this year. The same contractor awarded the bid last year is
low bidder this year, too. The Parks Recreation Director and
Tree Inspector recommend that the low bidder be awarded the bid.
A few problems were experienced last year; but in comaring
problems with surrounding communities, problems with our contractor
were fewer.
Mayor Pickar questioned the process involved in the tree removal?
Admin. Achen explained that the City Tree Inspector surveys and
identifies those trees that are to be treated and /or removed.
The citizen is quoted the price of having city's contractor remove
the tree; but the citizen has the option to compare prices with
other firms and choose another firm. Last year about$6800was
spent on the contract, majority of which was tree services on
private property.
MSP (Rowley Baumgartner) to award the tree removal contract to
L B Tree Service.
Councilmember Ziebarth asked if there was a provision in the contract
regarding landscaping problems after the tree has been removed? He
stated that he had received a complaint from one person in particular
about the poor landscaping done by the contractor. Councilmember
Rowley indicated she had received the same complaint. Councilmember
Hodges emphasized the poor job done on his lawn also.
Admin. Achen read from the contract a provision for the stump to
be ground a minimum of 6" below the surface. And he indicated
that it is up to the City Tree Inspector to be sure the contract
is carried out satisfactorily.
Vote on the motion to award the tree removal contract
PROJECT PROPOSALS FOR COMPREHENSIVE EMPLOYMENT TRAINING ACT (CETA)
Admin. Achen stated that legislation is expected to pass this week
pumping additional money into the CETA fund throughout the country.
The intent is to get money into the economy within a few days of
enactment and a substantial portion of the money contracted for
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by April 1st. Ramsey County (except for the City of St. Paul)
is expected to receive between $600,000 and $1.2 million. The
project proposals are to be project oriented meaning a defined
task to be completed in a certain time frame. The job created
also is to be one that wouldn't ordinarily be accomplished with
existing funds and personnel.
Staff has been working on project proposals. One suggestion
submitted is a program for the mentally retarded.
The Admin. requested Council authorization to review and submit
applications for funding. The deadline is next Monday so there
is inadequate time for Council review. This is a Title 6 program.
There are virtually no clerical people available, but there are
many laborers available.
Mayor Pickar suggested an application for a person to become
knowledgeable of grant procedures. Admin. Achen indicated that
would be a long -term project, unless the position was funded for
one particular grant. Grant administration really is an ongoing
project, it would be difficult to apply it as a definable, short
term task.
Admin. Achen also explained that the problem with hiring laborers
for maintenance duties is being careful to not take routine duties
away from the permanent maintenance employees. He also stated that
what CETA funds is the labor costs which is usually 50% of the
project cost the balance is for materials, transportation and
supervision which the city pays for.
Councilmember Ziebarth suggested an individual to round up city
materials from the consulting engineer's office that belong to
the city or someone to begin categorizing the materials in the
city's storage room.
MSP (Pickar Ziebarth) to authorize the Administrator to submit
application for CETA funding of project oriented positions prior
to the deadline.
AMENDMENT OF MOBILE HOME CODE
Admin. Achen stated that this ordinance deletes provision in existing
ordinance requiring mobile home park owners to maintain registry of
automobiles in mobile home park.
MSP (Pickar- Rowley) to adopt Ordinance No. 261 Amending Chapter
43.07 of the Mounds View Municipal Code entitled "Mobile Homes,
General Regulations."
ADMINISTRATORS REPORT: Admin. Achen stated that the city had
received a notice of non renewal from the present insurance carrier.
The INSURANCE BID SPECIFICATIONS presented to Council tonight
are basically those recommended by the League of Minnesota Cities
and used by the City of New Brighton. Staff is proposing to
maintain existing level of coverage.
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Admin. Achen explained there is a time problem. Insurance
companies have indicated they need a minimum of 41 -5 weeks
to prepare proposals, and the city's present coverage expires
the end of April. Bids are to be submitted April 19th. The
Administrator informed Council and the Attorney that if for
some reason no bids are received or bids received are not accept-
able, the city would be without insurance.
MSP (Pickar- Hodges) to approve the insurance specifications
as presented subject to the review and approval of the City
Attorney.
Admin. Achen encouraged as many Council members as possible
to attend the Wednesday, March 16th, meeting of the Ramsey
County League of Local Governments, discussion to be on the
RAMSEY COUNTY JUVENILE JUSTICE SYSTEM. Councilmember Baumgartner
indicated that a similar discussion was held at the Mounds
View city hall a couple years ago and it was a stimulating
discussion.
Admin. Achen presented a proposed ordinance on VEHICLE LOAD
LIMIT RESTRICTIONS. He explained that the County puts up
load limit restrictions every spring to protect the roads
during the thaw. State law allows the City to issue special
permits for loads over the limit and staff felt that the city
should have a set procedure for issuing special permits in
order to allow construction to proceed with minimal interruption
and yet protecting city streets.
Damage done by overweighted vehicles is difficult to determine
on a per trip basis, but over the years damage does result.
This ordinance intends to set a $20.00 per trip fee for overload
vehicles, the fee to be placed in the public improvement revolving
fund for use in repairing streets when required. The current
restriction is 3 tons; the ordinance proposes a special permit
allowing up to 5 tons. The permits would be reviewed and
authorized by the Public Works Director.
Engineer Hubbard indicated that he had discussed the proposed
ordinance with the police chief and the attorney and they felt
the ordinance would resolve many of the problems encountered
in trying to enforce the load limits. The permits would be
issued only for use during the 8 AM to 5 PM work day.
Councilmember Baumgartner asked how the information in the ordinance
would be disseminated to the public? Admin. Achen suggested perhaps
sending note to everyone who has projects in progress with apparent
need of delivery. Eng. Hubbard stated that drivers are aware of
load limit restrictions and usually will call the city hall before
attempting delivery.
Councilmember Baumgartner questioned how the permit fee will be
justified to the citizen who ultimately ends up paying the fee?
Admin. Achen explained that it will be explained to them the
damage done to city streets and that the money will be put into
a fund to be used for repair of the streets. Councilmember Baumgart-
ner asked if the fee could be justified as administrative costs?
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Admin. Achen responded that it could easily be justified as that
also.
MSP (Hodges Ziebarth) to adopt Ordinance No. 262 amending Chapter
80 of the Mounds View Municipal Code entitled "Regulation of the
Use of Highways, Streets and Roadswithin the Municipality."
Admin. Achen commented on some of the LEGISLATIVE PROPOSALS
currently being considered. One would give cities the option
to publish the purpose and effect of ordinances, rather than
publishing the entire ordinance as State law now requires.
For instance, to publish the recently adopted Chapter 40
cost the City about $1300 a substantial portion of the
chapter was repetition of an existing ordinance; under the
proposed legislation, all of the ordinance would not have
to be published, just the revised portions.
The Admin. stated that Representative Neisen has introduced
legislation to establish a storm sewer reserve fund to
establish storm sewer districts and annually levy funds.
There is a possibility of use in the city's own storm sewer
program.
Last week legislation was introduced to make all labor contract
settlements retroactive. The Administrator indicated he had
written to the Mounds View representatives and senators to
indicate the city's opposition to this legislation, as it
would deprive the city of one of its significant bargaining
tools.
ATTORNEY MEYERS REPORT: The Attorney indicated that the City
has been ordered to release funds to B E Enterprises plus interest
at 6% from the time of withholding payment. The original amount
was $12,800.20. Now due is $13,376.20 plus $29 court costs.
Atty. Meyers asked that a check be prepared payable to B E
Enterprises and Roger L. Hauge, its attorney, in the amount of
$13,405.20. The Atty. stated that because he has been put on
notice that certain claims have not been paid, the check should
be forwarded through his office.
MSP (Pickar- Hodges) to issue check in the amount of $13,405.20
to B E Enterprises and Roger L. Hauge and that the check be
forwarded through the City Attorney's office.
Engineer Hubbard stated that he and the Attorney are in the process
of reviewing the CONSULTING ENGINEER AGREEMENT recommendations
will be brought before the Council shortly.
Councilmember Rowley reported that the Lakeside Park Commission
is advertising for a MAINTENANCE bJPERVISOR for the summer. The
Commission has decided to discontinue the WINTER PROGRAM,
cost incurred was too great to be justified.
Phil Saari of the North Suburban Day Activity Center had contacted
Councilmember Rowley regarding Board meetings to be held on the
second Monday of each month at 7:30 PM. There is an obvious
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conflict with Councilmember Rowley's Council obligations, so
another member from Mounds View will have to be solicited. An
advertisement for such will be placed in the New Brighton Bulletin.
Councilmember Ziebarth reported that he has been appointed to the
LAND USE PLANNING ADVISORY COMMITTEE, which is a committee that
makes a lot of the background recommendations to the Metropolitan
Council. It is an advisory committee drawn from throughout the
metropolitan area.
Councilmember Hodges indicated he had received the FIRE DEPARTMENT
FINANCIAL REPORT, copy of which will be made for any council member
desiring it. He reported that the Fire Dept. would like to sell
one station and purchase a new Station #3 about a mile away
there is a problem getting people out to the existing station.
The recommendation will be sent to Council for approval.
Councilmember Baumgartner stated the the Planning Commission will
hold a public informational meeting regarding the proposed RED
OAK INTERCHANGE at New Highway 10 at 8:00 PM March 23, 1977. The
next regular Planning Commission meeting will be April 13th.
Councilmember Baumgartner asked if the City Tree Inspector plans
to give a slide presentation as he did last year. He indicated last
year's presentation was very good, but poorly attended. Admin. Achen
stated he would check into it.
Councilmember Baumgartner suggested that an article be put in
the newspaper regarding bicycle safety and motorists caution of
bicyclers. Councilmember Rowley suggested putting a message to
that effect on the city sign.
Discussion was held on a Council tour of the police department. The
Administrator will try to arrange a time convenient for the police
department and the Council.
Mayor Pickar stated there was a mix -up in the presentation of
awards at the Appreciation Dinner by neglecting the Mr. Jaycees
and giving improper credit to the Mrs. Jaycees.
SPRING CLEAN -UP is scheduled for Saturday April 23rd with April
30th as the alternate day in case of inclement weather.
Councilmember Ziebarth stated the Bicentennial Commission has of-
ficially changed its name to the FESTIVITIES COMMITTEE and will
meet the first Tuesday of every month.
MSP (Baumgartner Rowley) to adjourn at 10 :50 PM.
Respectfully submitted,
a v_616{,
Mark Achen
Clerk- Administrator
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