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CITIZENS COMMENTS AND REQUESTS
PROCEEDINGS OF THE CITY COUNCIL
CITY OF MOUNDS VIEW
RAMSEY COUNTY, MINNESOTA
A regular meeting of the Mounds View City Council was called to order by ,Mayor
Pickar at 7:30 PM on July 11, 1977 at the Mounds View City Hall, 2401 Highway 10,
Mounds View, Minnesota 55112.
Present: Also Present:
Mayor. Pickar
Councilmember ;Ziebarth
Councilmember Baumgartner
Councilmember Hodges
Councilmember Rowley was absent, on vacation.
MSP (Hodges Ziebarth) to approve the minutes of the June 27, 1977 meeting.
citizen comments or requests.
Clerk Administrator Achen
Attorney Meyers
Engineer Hubbard
APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA
Councilmember Ziebarth asked if any record of complaints is kept against any of
the businesses applying, for license renewal. Administrator Achen replied that
a file is kept and any pertinent information is brought to the Council's attention
at the time of renewal.
MSP (Baumgartner-Ziebarth) to approve the consent agenda as follows: 4' ayes
177M Set public 1ic 7 0 AugusV R, 1977 on Ed
Cherrier appeal of Planning Commission decision preventing
establishment of an automotive repair garage at 5497 Adams
Street.
ITEM B. Adopt Resolution No 844 approving Berwyn Addition final
plat which meets requirements established by the Council
in approving the preliminary plat en March 14, 1977.
ITEM C. Accept resignation of Mischa `•loran as senior accounting
clerk effective July 15, 1977. Authorize administrator
to recruit and recommend a renlacerc.nt,
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ITEM D. Approve the following licenses:
CONTRACTORS expire 6 -30 -78
General renewals
Lindman Builders
5120 Irondale Road
St Paul, MN 55112
Eigenheer Builders, Inc
2828 Highway 10
Minneapolis, MN 55432
Miles Garages
4500 Lyndale Avenue N
Minneapolis, MN 55412
Lida Construction
16413 Jasper Street NW
Anoka, MN 55303
Harding Home Comfort
Stinson Boulevard Box 448
Chisago City, MN 55013
Capp Homes (Evans Products)
3355 Hiawatha Avenue
Minneapolis, MN 55416
Crown Iron Works
PO Box 1364
1229 Tyler Street
Minneapolis, MN 55440
T V Construction
5135 Greenwood Drive
Mounds View, MN 55112
Rite -Way Waterproofing
7337 Lake Drive
Linn Lakes M`'1 59014
Kozitza Construction
5230 Greenfield Avenue
New Brighton, MN 55112
Aquarius Swimming Pool
16900 Cedar AvF:nuc E
Rosemount, MN 55068
Po-My Construction
7647 Knollwood Drive
Minneapolis, MN 55432
Gorco Construction
3384 Brownlow Avenue
St Louis Dark, M`: 55426
Aladdin Pools
4738 North 42nd Avenue
Robbinsdale, MN 55422
M J Arndt Construction
2808 Sherwood Road
Minneapolis, ?4N 55432
Buzzell Builders
5741 Polk Street NE
Fridley, MN 55432
Heating renewal
Twin City Furnace
459 N Snelling
St Paul, MN 55104
Montgomery Wards Co
1400 University Avenue
St Paul, MN 55101
The Snelling Co
1400 Concordia
St Taub 55104
AA -1 Furnace Cleaning Service
2716 T i col l et Avenue So
Minneapolis, MN 55408
All Season Comfort
1417 NW 18 Street
New Brighton, MN 55112
Andover Asphalt
7641 NW 150 Lane
Anoka, MN 55303
Horwitz Mechanical
1411 Eleventh Avenue S
Minneapolis, MN 55404
Fred Vogt Co
3260 Gorham Avenue S
St Louis Park, MN 55426
Pak Company
2832 Highway 10
Minneapolis, MN 55432
Berhorst Plumbing Heating
10732 Hanson Boulevard
Coon Rapids, '1N 55433
Ideal Heating Air
3116 Fremont Avenue N
Minneapolis, MN 55411
Standard Heating Air
410 West Lake Street
Minneapolis, MN 55408
Denny's Mobile Home Ser
745 NW llth Avenue
New Brighton, MN 55112
Masonry renewal
Stone Masonry
2101 NE 105th Avenue
Blaine, MN 55434
Buzzell Brick Cement
22001 Lake George Blvd
Anoka, MN 55303
Crete -wood Construction
1705 Radison Road
Blaine, MN 55434
Master Masonry
14914 N 93rd Avenue
Osseo, MN 55369
Excavating renewal
Iravel Excavr— i ncr
456 t County road B
P r; 11 MN 55113
'i i 1 c r Suchy Excavating
73 West Count. Jo cl C
Paul, 'd'] 55117
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Kaciloc Excavating
724 Main Street NW
.Anoka, MN 55301
Nickelson Plumbing
16101 Ramsey Blvd NW
Anoka, MN 55303
Jarson's Service Co
9180 Xylite Street NE
Minneapolis, MN 55434
Asphalt renewals
Northern Asphalt Co
11064 Raddison Road NE
Minneapolis, MN 55434
Buck Blacktop
32 S Owasso Blvd
St Paul, MN 55117
C S Blacktopping
8832 W Broadway
Minneapolis, MN 55445
Signs renewals
Brede, Inc
2211 Broadway NE
Minneapolis, MN 55413
Lawernce Signs, Inc
945 Pierce Butler Route
St Paul, MN 55104
Naegele Outdoor Advertising
1700 West 78th Street
Minneapolis, MN 55423
L 1C( {ul Sign Co
312 West Lake Street
Minneapolis, MN 55408
Stucco renewal
Joe nelson Stucco Co
1150 NN 98 Lane
Coon Rapids, MN 55433
Bill Zimmerman's Stucco
Route 2
P.-)gers, MN 55374
Gene Karne plasterinn Stucco
721 Bradford Avenue
Champin, MN 55316
Beating CO`.T
Floyd Hoskins Constrctinq
646 NW 123 Avenue
Coon Rapids, MN 55433
Thompson Plumbing
12201 Minnetonka Blvd
Minnetonka, MN 55343
Hank's Excavating
601 Pearson Parkway
Brooklyn Park, MN 55444
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ITEM E. Approve the July 8, 1977
C; Sedwick Heating Air
1001 Xenia Avenue S
Minneapolis, MN 55416
Four Seasons Air Specialist
312 Division Street
White Bear Lake, MN 55110
Fence renewal
Shadawn Fence Company
5255 Irondale Road
Mounds View, MN 5511.2
bills for payment (attached)
RECREATIONAL VEHICLE PARKING REGULATIONS
Councilmember Baumgartner reported that some of the items concerning recreational
vehicle parking were discussed at the agenda meeting, and that one item was that
recreational vehicles be kept 20 feet away from the curb. A representative of the
police department was present at the meeting and after discussion, the consensus
was that the vehicles should be 15 feet rather than 20 feet from the curb.
Also, the original proposal was that vehicles could be parked less than 15 feet from
the curb line for less than two hours. However, it was decided that the two hour
limitation would be too difficult to enforce and it was recommended that it be removed.
The intent as far as on- street parking of recreational vehicles is that they should
be included with trucks which are subject to a two hour limitation.
Councilmember Ziebarth questioned if there was a clear definition of on- street parking,
i.e whei a does cne b!! ..v ,.affil i. J3;;k 3lii t[!2 s i ree L o! Li equ i r ed 15 feet
Administrator Achen replied that it was 15 feet from the paved surface.
Councilmember Ziebarth also questioned if the area of 15 feet from the street is
off limits to any recreational vehicle. Administrator Achen replied that it was
off limits.
MSP (Baumgartner Pickar) to approve Ordinance No. 266, amending the off street parking
regulations of the municipal code of Mounds View by amending Chapter 40, entitled
Zoning, and Chapter 81, entitled Parking. 4 ayes
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SUBURBAN RAMSEY COUNTY EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS BOARD
Administrator Achen reported that the Joint Powers agreement formalizes a channel for
advising the County Sheriff on dispatching procedures. It is designed to promote
more uniform communication operating procedures among users of the County Sheriff's
dispatching center. It may also assist in securing federal and state financial assis-
tance for implementation of the mandated 911 emergency communication system and
further technological advancement in emergency communications.
Administrator Achen stated that the agreement would establish an advisory board who
would establish uniform operating procedures and that the sheriff's office provides
dispatching services for a number of agencies. Also. there are no monetary or
budgetary powers involved.
Mayor Pickar asked if the program would at some time require funds. Administrator
Achen replied that the State Legislature has mandated that everyone go to the 911
phone system by 1982. He stated that Council's would have to amend the joint powers
agreement before this board could exercise any financial powers.
MSP (Pickar Baumgartner) to table the resolution for the Emergency Communications
Board until the City Attorney has had a chance to review it and discuss it at the
July 25 Council Meeting.
Mayor Pickar pointed out that the City had previously been able to purchase insurance
at a fixed rate for a three -year period.
MSP (Pickar- Hodges) to approve the purchase of umbrella liability coverage from
Larry Donohue for $6,120.
At 8:00 p.m. Mayor Pickar recessed the regular meeting and opened the public hearing.
4 ayes
UMBRELLA LIABILITY INSURANCE
Mayor Pickar reported that the City's insurance agent, Larry Donohue, has obtained
a quotation of $6,120 from Inter -State Fire and Casualty Company for $1,000,000 umbrella
liability coverage. This policy would increase the present general liability coverage
of $500,000 and the present police liability coverage of $300,000 to $1,000,000.
Mayor Pickar also stated that when the City had renewed it's insurance a few months
previous, the agent was not able to get umbrella insurance coverage at that time and
had been searching since then to get the coverage.
Administrator Achen reported that the City had budgeted approximately $21,000 for it's
insurance coverage for the year and that the umbrella coverage would increase the
amount spent to $59,000, or $38,000 more than what was budgeted. He also stated
that public liability insurance was getting so expensive that many companies were
steering away from it Until it wag cleared !up in the court as to w h a t public liability
is. Several large cities and institutions ere going to self-insurance.
Administrator Achen reported that the insurance package is the equivalent of 2 mills
out of a total of 20 mills for the City, or 1C percent of th2 City's L% The
insurance agent has indicated that the City can expect a 20 percent increase in the
rates next year.
4 ayes
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PUBLIC HEARING GUSTAFSON OFFICE BUILDING DEVELOPMENT 7664 GREENFIELD AVENUE
Mayor Pickar reported that the notice of the public hearing indicated that rezoning
for development of an office building was under consideration and that technically
it should have specified that a conditional use permit was also under consideration.
Thus, through the recommendation of the City Attorney, Mayor Pickar asked that everyone
be aware it was both a public hearing on rezoning and that a conditional use permit
was also under consideration.
Mr. Gustafson is requesting approval of the plot plan and development proposal for an
office building development (B -1). The proposal requires two variances of parking
and setback requirements. The office building is to be 32' x 58', and 11 stories tall.
22 parking spaces would be required and Mr. Gustafson has provided for 20, which would
require a variance of 2 parking spaces. The building meets all setback requirements
and the parking lot also meets all setback requirements except for along the west
property line. Parking there is proposed to be located 2' from the property line,
which would require a variance. A 4' redwood fence will be provided to screen the
adjacent parking lot, and a 6' redwood fence will be provided along the south line
to screen the R -1 development. The lot is zoned B -4, Business General Use, and
the Comprehensive Plan has proposed a residential medium density use (R -31. The Pro-
posed use is B -1.
Engineer Hubbard reported that he had looked at the plans and the only changes that
had been made since the previous meeting were that four more parking places were
planned, as per the Council's request. The Planning Commission had wanted green
space, which would have cut out the four additional parking spaces, but since the
ordinance requires 22 parking spaces, the Council requested the 4 to be put back in.
Mayor Pickar reported that the Planning Commission had recommended approval of the plot
as it presently stands.
Councilmember Baumgartner questioned Mr. Gustafson where the water would drain to
that would be put out onto County Road I.
Mr. Gustafson replied that he had assumed it would just drain off.
Engineer Hubbard stated that the water should follow the drainage flow into the system.
However, the area in question is presently soil, so the water has been soaking into the
ground rather than running into the street.
Mr. Gustafson pointed out that the street from County Road I and Greenfield slopes
down to a field, and most likely the water wc9ld flow there.
Councilmember Baumgartner suggested that the Council check into the drainage system
before approving Mr. Gustafson's request, and that they should not approve the request
until it can be guaranteed the water will not accumulate and cause problems.
Administrator Achen pointed out that the Council had told Mr. Gustafson he need not
come with detailed plans of the development to the hearing since the hearing was to
take action on rezoning, and that the Council had intended to discuss and decide
whether to approve the rezoning before having Mr. Gustafson go to the expense of having
the detailed plans drawn up
Mayor Picker pointed out that the Staff recommendation is to rezone from R -4 to R -1.
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Attorney Meyers pointed out that the hearing was to determine if the area could be
rezoned but that a development agreement must be entered into before a conditional
use permit could be issued.
MSP Pickar- Hodges) to rezone the property at 7664 Greenfield Avenue from B -4
to B -1.
"A rollcall vote was taken:
Councilmember Ziebarth aye
Councilmember Baumgartner aye
Councilmember Hodges aye
Mayor Pickar aye
Administrator Achen stated that Mr. Gustafson would need detailed building plans
and site plans before receiving final Council approval of the building, and that
he should address the drainage problem.
Mayor Pickar stated that Mr. Gustafson's next step would be to meet with Mr. Rose
and then come back before the Council for final approval of the development agree-
ment.
Mayor Pickar closed the public hearing on the rezoning of property, and reopened
the regular meeting.
Administrator Achen pointed out, for the Council's information, that Norm Ecklund
had resigned from the Ramsey County League of Local Government since he had been
transferred within his company to St. Cloud.
Attorney Meyers reported that he had received a letter of credit from Minnesota
Rent -All and that the agreement was in proper form except that it listed a termi-
nation date of December 24, 1977 and that the City would lose the bonding back -up
if the project extended beyond December 24, 1977. He stated that he would contact
Rent -All and work out the problem.
At 8:20 the Mayor recessed the regular meeting and opened the public hearing on the
Singer Development request.
PUBLIC HEARING S MGER UPERA i y, HOME DEVELOPMENT 7850 S P iu LAKE ROAD
Singer Therapuetic Concepts has made an application for a recuperative home to be
located 7850 n, -.d 1J, DPW
license as a child caring institution for up to 10 girls, ages 13
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would be operated by five full -time staff on a 24 hour hospital shift basis.
Patrick Sweeney introduced himself as the attorney for Mrs. Singer and gave a
general background of the proposed home. He stated that Mrs. Singer has gone through
the program with the State Welfare Department and has filed an application with the
City of Mounds View. The State Health Department and the Fire Department have both
approved the property in question, with one small modification being required by the
Fire Department regarding a fire exit on the second floor of the home.
Mr. Sweeney stated that the Council had received copies of the program Mrs. Singer
intends to conduct at the home, if it is approved.
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Mr. Sweeney stated that he and Mrs. Singer had investigated other group homes in the
Metropolitan area to see if property values for surrounding hones had decreased, and
they had not found that to be the case. He also stated that he and Mrs. Singer had
contacted and worked with the Ramsey County Welfare Department and that the Welfare
Department has approved Mrs. Singer's program.
Mr. Sweeney stated that Mrs. Singer is a professional who would like to work with
juveniles in Ramsey County, and to take juveniles who have not previously had
experience with the juvenile court and work with them in her home and with their
families. The girls would stay in the home anywhere from 3 to 9 months and then
hopefully would return to their families and communities.
Mr. Sweeney pointed out that one objection that had been brought up at the Planning
Commission meeting was that there were not the required number of parking spaces,
and that he and Mrs. Singer had experimented with the present owners of the home
and found that with angled parking they were able to provide five more parking spaces
in the front yard, in addition to the three spaces available in front of the garage.
Mrs. Singer stated that basically her program is designed to deal with the adolescent
female, a person who cannot live at home successfully and who has behavior. problems.
She would provide a structured living experience for the youngsters and teach them
different ways of dealing with their problems. The girls would participate in at
least three therapy sessions a week.
Councilmember Ziebarth stated that there was confusion on the number of girls Mrs.
Singer planned to have in the home, and that in previous reports the number had been
listed as 12.
Mrs. Singer stated that she had always intended to have no more than 10 girls, and
that the DPW license has a limit of 9, but that somewhere along the line in her
discussions with the City of Mounds View, they had come up with the number 12,
mistakenly.
Irene Schaffer, 7860 Spring Lake Road, identified herself as the next door neighbor
to the proposed home and stated that if a fence were put up that it would cut off
her view of the lake. She also asked where the girls would have room to play outside
if the parking spaces were put in the front yard.
Mrs. Singer replied that the house has a large back yard and that a 6 foot privacy
fence would be put in the back yard and that the neighbors had indicated they would
all put in fences if the home did not fence their yard.
Gordon Kuluvar, 7815 Gloria Circle asked if the 8 planned parking spaces were enough.
Mrs. Singer replied that the 8 parking spots were enough, and Mayor Pickar agreed
t h a t 8 spaces were required
Mrs. Burnie Lossing, 7805 Gloria Circle stated she was a neighbor of the proposed
home and asked what effect the fence would have, forming a corridor down to the
lake, and also asked if the home would be able to be added on to at a later date
and then be able to house 15 or 16 girls?
Mayor Pickar replied that if approval is given by the City, the specific number of
residents would be stated so that the home would not be able to increase it's size
without further permission from the City.
Mr. Kuluvar asked how many girls would be in the home. Mr. Sweeney replied that there
would be only 9 girls in the home.
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P•1r. Kuluvar pointed out that there were several other areas within Mounds View that
were zoned R -4 already where the applicant could locate, rather than changing an
R -1 area. He also stated that he felt if this area was changed, several other people
would be coming to the City and asking to have other areas within the City changed.
Burnie Lossing, 7805 Gloria Circle asked what restrictions would be placed on the
property if it were rezoned, as far as if it should be resold at a later date, would
it remain R -4 or revert back to R -1.
Attorney Meyers stated that if the property was rezoned to R -4 and then sold at a
later date, another hearing would have to be held to revert it back to R -1.
Mrs. Schaffer stated that she understood from the Planning Commission that the pro-
perty could not go back to R -1 after being changed to R -4. Attorney Meyers replied
that a request would have to be made to the City, then a hearing would have to be
held.
Eugene Schaffer, 7860 Gloria Circle asked what type of guarantee the City would have
that girls from Mounds View would be in the, home. Mrs. Singer replied that she would
be glad to hold one or two beds for Mounds View girls if the City was willing to pay
for the beds. Otherwise, she would have to make the facility available to Mounds
View girls as openings occurred.
Gerald Singer informed the Council that a statement had been made by the representa-
tives of the home in front of the Planning Commission that they would be willing to
have the land revert back to R -1 if they sold it.
Mr. Sweeney stated that the State Legislature had passed a statute that for a home of
this type, if there were to be six or less girls in the home, City Council approval
was not needed at all. Thus, he felt Mrs. Singer was asking only for a variance of
three girls for her home. Mr. Sweeney also stated that as far as the future use of
the home was concerned, no one could say for certain what would happen, but that
Mrs. Singer is a professional and feels that the home would be an asset to the
community and would fit into Mounds View's Comprehensive Plan.
Mayor Pickar stated that he could appreciate the concern of the citizens over what
might happen to the property if Mrs. Singer were to sell it.
Mr. Sweeney replied that they would be willing to put in a covenant that if the
property were sold or changed hands, that the property would revert back to R -1.
Attorney Meyers staled t(iaL the statute Mr. Sweeney had mentioned regarding six or
less girls referred to mentally retarded or physically handicapped individuals, and
that the City .i st detPrmi n a if tho girls 1.'or t he ronsirlarPd mentally retarded
or physically handicapped.
Janet Schultz, 7887 Spring Lake Road asked if the Council had received a copy of the
petition the neighbors had circulated, stating that they did not want the land
rezoned. Mayor Pickar replied that the Council had received the petition.
Mrs. Schultz also stated that the Planning Commission had voted against rezoning since
it did not fit into Mounds View's Comprehensive Plan.
Richard Nunn, 7755 Spring Lake Road stated that in order to fit into the category of
six girls or less, they must live at the home, and the staff was not going to be a
live -in staff.
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Mrs. Schaffer asked where the girls would be going to school. and what type of super-
vision they would have, especially at night.
Mrs. Singer replied that she would be hiring a special education teacher to teach the
girls and that there would be someone on duty 24 hours a day to supervise the girls.
Susan Townsend identified herself as a probation officer for Hennepin County and stated
that she was speaking on an individual basis in Mrs. Singer's behalf and that she had
witnessed Mrs. Singer's work with juveniles at the Hennepin County Group Home and felt
that Mrs. Singer had excellent qualifications for the home she proposed to open.
She also stated that one point to be considered was that by having the home in Mounds
View, the Mounds View girls would be within their own community, which would not pre-
sent the same hardships for other girls who have to go outside their community for
help. The Mounds View girls would be close to their family and friends.
Allan Elrose, 7800 Gloria Circle stated that while he had heard a great deal that
evening in reference to Mrs. Singer's qualifications, the matter at hand was if the
property should be rezoned, and that the overwhelming characteristic of the neighbor-
hood was R -1. Mr. Elrose also pointed out that there was open land nearby that was
zoned R -4 which the home could build on.
Mr. Kuluvar asked what variances would be required if the home were approved.
Attorney Meyers replied that R -4 zoning requires a conditional use permit for that
type of a facility. There is also a licensing requirement.
Mr. Kuluvar asked if the angled parking in the front yard would be proper.
Mayor Pickar stated that the only requirement to be met is to have the required park-
ing spaces, eight.
Councilmember Baumgartner stated that the Planning Commission minutes stated that a
variance is needed for the parking spaces, for the side yard set -back, and for the
6 foot screening for the front yard.
Attorney Meyers stated that the hearing is to decide whether to rezone from R -1 to
R -4, and that the Council can only consider the public health, safety and welfare
and that the judgement should be based upon, but not limited to, the following:
a. Relationship to di )i comp' ns va 'iar
b. Geographical area involved
c. Whether such use will tend to or actually depreciate the
area in which it is proposed
d. The character of the surrounding area
e. The demonstrated need for such use
Mrs. Lossen asked if the property surrounding the home would depreciate.
Attorney Meyers stated that the Council could ask for opinions, and Mayor Pickar
then asked for the citizens opinions and comments.
Mr. Schaffer stated that he felt that rezoning the property from R -1 to R -4 would
depreciate the value of the surrounding area.
Mr. Lossing stated that in case he were to sell his property at d later date, he
felt that the value of his property would be lowered by having the R -4 home in there.
Mr. Sweeney stated that he and Mrs. Singer did a survey in Golden Valley and that
there was no indication that property values had dropped because of the facility
there.
Mr. Lossen stated that he had bought in the neighborhood because it was zoned R -1,
and that he selected that particular area because Mounds View is known for it's
zoning, school district, etc. He stated that the property value may not change as
far as taxes are concerned but he felt the market value would drop.
Donald McDonald, 7825 Gloria Circle stated that he felt the home should be able to
go in an area that was already zoned R -4 and that he was not in favor of the home
going in at the proposed location.
Mr. Kuluvar stated that if the property were rezoned to R -4, it would open things
up for others to rezone other areas of Mounds View.
Mrs. Schaeffer stated that she felt her property value would drop if the home were
put in.
Richard Nunn, 7755 Spring Lake Road stated that he had two objections to the home,
that one, the traffic in the area would increase, and that he also objected to
spot rezoning and that if it was done for one person, it could be done for several.
Mrs. Schultz stated that she objected to spot rezoning, and that she had purchased
in an R -1 neighborhood.
Mr. Elrose stated that he felt there would be an increase in traffic and that the
home is located next to a blind S- curve. He also stated the proposed facility is
not in line with the City's Comprehensive Plan and that the facility is not in line
with the rest of the neighborhood, and that the value of his home would be reduced
with the group home next door. He also stated he felt Mrs. Singer would be the one
with the burden of proof to pruve that home values would not decrease.
Mr. Schaffer stated that he felt someone from a real estate agency should make a
statement on the property value.
Mr. Singer stated that at the Planning Commission meeting someone on the Commission
was going to go to the Golden Valley home and check out the neighborhood. Mr. Singer
also asked what Mounds View intended to do with the 40 female juveniles that they
have each year that have to be placed in homes.
Attorney Meyers replied that that was not the issue at hand.
Mrs. K.a uvar, 7215 Glnri n Ci r' l st't that she was opposed to the home [bas ally
because it would require rezoning the R -1 area.
Mr. Sweeney stated that he hoped the Council would consider the issue and that he
felt the home was not out of whack in the neighborhood, and that the home would be
a place for people to live in, and that a business would not be operated out of it.
Mr. Sweeney also stated that most of the citizens seemed to be against the home and
he asked the Council to state their reasons if they should oppose the home.
Mayor Pickar reminded the Council that they must concern themselves with the issue
of health, safety and welfare, and asked the Council for their comments.
M er Ziebarth stated tf t h o=
'ounce lmembe Zi barth i i qi.sPstions had been nvered .',vring the
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discussion but that he did have some questions regarding the operation of the facility.
He stated he was interested in knowing how the particular area was selected for the
home.
Mr. Sweeney replied that the home in question was the only one available that would
suit the needs of Mrs. Singer. He also stated that Mrs. Singer wanted a beneficial
treatment home for the juveniles that would provide them with room for recreation
and would also be large enough to house 8 or 9 girls.
Councilmember Ziebarth stated that if that was the criteria used, Mrs. Singer would
run into problems in every community as the home she was looking for, with that type
of atmosphere, would be found in an R -1 location.
Mr. Sweeney replied that in Mounds View, that type of property was R -1, but it could
be different in other communities.
Councilmember Ziebarth asked what was the closest facility that provided a similar
service.
Mrs. Singer replied that Home of the Good Shepard in Shoreview was the closest.
Councilmember Ziebarth replied that the reason for his question was that he was con-
cerned with a duplication of effort within Ramsey County and asked Mrs. Singer what
recommendations Ramsey County had made to her.
Mr. Sweeney replied that Mrs. Singer had gone before the Ramsey County Mental Health
department and made her presentation and that the department had made suggestions on
what would be needed to accept the program within Ramsey County. Also, the Health,
Welfare and Fire departments all gave their approval.
Councilmember Ziebarth asked if the Planning Commission had addressed the problem
of parking for visitors, in addition to the required 8 parking spots.
Mr. Sweeney replied that the 8 spaces would be all that was required, and that friends
and visitors were not allowed at the home, and that the families were only allowed
on Sundays.
Councilmember Ziebarth asked what type of teaching program was planned. Mrs. Singer
replied that a special education teacher would be provided to handle all situations.
Councilmember Hodges stated that he felt that the huiiie would provide a public safety
hazard since it would go against the rezoning policy of the community.
Councilmember Baumgartner stated that his questions had been answered during the
discussion but that he did want to know how Mrs. Singer would discipline the girls.
Mrs. Singer replied that all discipline would be done through revoking priviledges,
not through physical discipline. Fur example, phone priviledges would be revoked for
someone who abused their phone rights, and that the individual would have to go before
the group to regain her priviledges. She also stated that she and the staff would
deal directly with any girls who caused trouble and that they would sit down with them
and work the problems out.
Councilmember Baumgartner asked the type of background the staff would have.
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Mrs. Singer replied that of the staff she had lined up, one was a psychiatrist,
one a psychologist and the remainder had B.A.'s in drama, dance, art, etc.
Mayor Pickar stated that he felt the location of the home was the main problem
and that he had no objection to the home itself but rather its location. He
asked Mrs. Singer if she had tried to locate an R -4 location.
Mrs. Singer replied that she had looked for over a year in Shoreview, Mounds View,
Anoka County, Washington County, Ramsey County and other areas and that the
proposed home was the only suitable location she had found.
MSP (Pickar- Baumgartner) to deny the application of Mrs. Singer for a group home
at 7850 Spring Lake Road on the basis of the welfare of the community and because
the rezoning is in conflict with the City's Comprehensive Plan and R -1 single
family residential characteristics of the neighborhood. 4 ayes
MSP (Baumgartner Pickar) to amend the above motion to include both the safety
and welfare of the community because of the potential traffic problems cited at
this hearing. 4 ayes
9:45 PM Mayor Pickar closed the public hearing and reopened the regular
meeting.
ADMINISTRATOR ACHEN'S REPORT
Administrator Achen reported on the levy limit base increase which is allowable
under the Omnibus Tax Bill adopted in the last legislative session. It is a
provision that any city with a per capita levy limit base below 80% of the average
per capita levy limit base for all cities within a county may request such be
increased to 80% of the county average. The request may be made by letter to the
State Commissioner of Revenue. Administrator Achen requested the Council to authorize
him to make this request.
Administrator Achen reported that Mounds View has a per capita base of $44.36,
which is $4.59 less than 80% of the county average of $61.19. Adjustment of the
Mounds View levy limit base would provide an additional $60,592 in potential tax
levy authority. Whether the City actually uses such authority will be a budget
decision. However, Administrator Achen reported the procedure is relatively painless
and would provide the City additional financial breathing room. It might also have
some beneficial effect on the amount of local government aid the City receives
from the state.
Councilmember Ziebarth asked if raising the figure would affect the property
taxes. Administrator Achen replied that it would affect the taxpayer if the Council
decides to use it.
MSP (Pickar- Hodges) to authorize Administrator Achen to request the increase to
80% of the county average to the State Commissioner of Revenue. 4 ayes
ATTORNEY MEYERS' REPORT
Attorney Meyers had no report.
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ENGINEER HUBBARD'S REPORT
Engineer Hubbard requested that the Council approve the specifications and solici-
tation of bids for the sealcoating project in Mounds View. Engineer Hubbard stated
that he had received an estimate of $37,900 for the project and that $40,000 had been
budgeted for.
MSP (Pickar- Ziebarth) to approve the solicitation of bids for the sealcoating project
on July 14 and July 21, with the bid opening to be July 25 at 10:00 AM, and the
Council to discuss the bids at the July 25 Council meeting. 4 ayes
Engineer Hubbard also requested the Council to approve the water utility study design
and solicitation of proposals. Engineer Hubbard reported that the 1977 budget
includes $7,500 for a long -range water study. He has collected several water studies
from other cities, and after reviewing them, Engineer Hubbard proposed the following
objectives for the City of Mounds View's water study:
a. To relate present and future land usage to water usage.
b. To analyze present and future source and storage requirements.
c. To hydraulically analyze the water distribution system to adequate
residual pressure.
d. To provide a "Master Plan" showing projected future additional water
lines and changes necessary to modernize the existing system.
e. To analyze present maintenance practices and recommend any changes
that may be necessary.
f. To develop cost estimates for all proposed changes or additions to the
existing system.
Engineer Hubbard recommended the City Council authorize the Staff to solicite pro-
posals from several consultants, evaluate the proposals, interview the top two or
three firms and recommend a consultant to the Council. The selection process would
require about five or six weeks.
MSP (Baumgartner Ziebarth) to authorize Staff to solicit proposals for the water
study project. 4 ayes
Engineer Hubbard also reported that Comstock Davis is preparing specifications
for the project to dehumidify Well No. 1 at City Hall. $14,000 has been budgeted
for the project, and since the unit itself runs about $5,000, Engineer Hubbard
stated that h did not :eel here would be any problem wi ih going over budget.
MSP (hedges- Ziebarth) to approve the solicitation of bids on July 14 and July 21
for the dehumidifier project, with hid Opening to be AUTIst 1 at 11:n0 AM, with the
Council to consider at the August 8 meeting. 4 ayes
COUNCILMEMBER ZIEBARTH'S REPORT
Councilmeir "er Ziebarth reported that he was concerned with the water drainage problem
on Ardan Avenue and asked Engineer Hubbard if he could come up with some type of
proposal and get an estimate of having the area fixed.
Engineer Hubbard replied that he had been checking into the possibility of storing
the water elsewhere and that he would continue to work on the problem.
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COUNCILMEMBER HODGE'S REPORT
Councilmember Hodges asked if the City Council could send a letter of appreciation
to Mischa Moran, thanking her for her service.
Mayor Pickar replied that a letter would be sent by the Administrator.
COUNCILMEMBER BAUMGARTNER'S REPORT
Councilmember Baumgartner reported that the Planning Commission did not have a quorum its regular July meeting, so another meeting has been scheduled for July 20.
Councilmember Baumgartner also asked where the City stood in its negotiations with
M &E Realty concerning the park property.
Attorney Meyers stated that they had had a meeting and that the City was interested
in acquiring 19 acres of land. The property had been appraised at $6,500 an acre
earlier, which would represent an investment of $123,500, of which $31,000 would be
the City's responsibility and the remainder would be covered under the grant.
Attorney Meyers reported that there are another 12 acres of land that could also
be acquired and used as a holding pond. Discussion followed on if the City wanted
all the land or just wanted the 19 acres, and different ways of financing the land
if the City did acquire it all.
Attorney Meyers stated that if the City did decide to purchase all the property at
$6,500 an acre, it would be a wise purchase. He also stated that the owner of the
property had not indicated whether $6,500 an acre was an agreeable price.
Mayor Pickar stated he felt the City should try and acquire the 19 acres now while
the grant is still available.
Councilmember Ziebarth mentioned that if the City just purchases 19 acres, the owner
might be willing to make an offer on the remaining land at a better price.
Councilmember Baumgartner suggested that the issue should be discussed before the
next Council meeting.
MAYOR PICKAR' S REPORT
Mayor Pickar had no report.
MSP (Hodges- Ziebarth) to adjourn at 10:40 PM.
Respectfully submitted,
Mark Achen
Clerk- Administrator
4 ayes