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PROCEEDINGS OF THE CITY COUNCIL
CITY OF MOUNDS VIEW
RAMSEY COUNTY, MINNESOTA
A regular meeting of the Mounds View City Council was called to order
by Mayor Pickar at 7:30 PM on November 28, 1977 at the Mounds View
City Hall, 2401 Highway 10, Mounds View, Minnesota 55112.
Members Present: Also Present:
Rowley
Ziebarth
Hodges
Baumgartner
Clerk- Administrator Achen
Attorney Meyers
Engineer Hubbard
MSP (Hodges Baumgartner) to approve the minutes of the November 14,
1977 minutes as presented. 4 ayes
1 abstainl
Councilmember Ziebarth explained that he was abstaining from the vote
as he had not been at the November 14 meeting.
CITIZEN COMMENTS AND REQUESTS
Ken Beech, 7041 Pleasantview Drive stated that he was having a problem
with fox killing the ducks and pheasant on his property. He explained
that he owned 3/4 acre on which the ducks and pheasant roamed, and that
he had called the Police Department, who told him they could not shoot
the fox and referred to the no fire arms law of the City. Mr. Beech
also stated that he had contacted the DNR, which said they would shoot
the fox if it weren't for the City law.
Mayor Pickar replied that Mounds View's law regarding tle firing of guns
within the City was the same as any other city and that the law was made
to protect the people. He recommended that Mr. Beech contact City Hall
during working hours and discuss the details of his problem with the
proper officials.
Russell Paul, 7940 Greenfield stated that he felt guns should be allowed
to some extent in order to allow for the control of animals such as fox.
APPROVAL OF CONSENT AGENDA
MSP (Rowley Ziebarth) to approve the consent agenda as follows: 5 ayes
November 28, 1977 Page 2
ITEM A. Set public hearing for 7:40 PM, December 12, 1977, on
Dailey Homes preliminary plat of property generally
located at 7555 Groveland Road and on the rezoning of that
property for duplex development.
ITEM B. Set public hearing for 8:00 PM, December 12, 1977, on
Eugene Tomas single family preliminary plat of property
generally located at 5065 Bona Road.
ITEM C. Set public hearing for 8:15 PM, December 12, 1977, on
Cedar Bay Builders single family preliminary plat of
property generally located at 8465 Fairchild Avenue.
ITEM D. Set public hearing for 7:40 PM January 9, 1978 on Crown
Auto Conditional Use permit request for the addition of
two vehicle repair bays at 2701 Highway 10.
ITEM E. Designate George M. Hansen Company to perform the 1977
audit of city finances. Estimated fee for audit services
is $3,250 to $3,850, not to exceed the latter.
ITEM F. Cancel the scheduled City Council regular meeting on
December 26, 1977, and agenda session on January 2, 1978.
These dates are legal holidays, Christmas and New Year's
respectively.
ITEM G. Receive the August, 1977, activity reports of the police,
fire, legal and nuisance abatement departments.
ITEM H. Approve November 28, 1977, bills for payment.
ITEM I. Approve the following licenses:
Contractors expire 6/30/78
GENERAL new
Big Bear Construction
775 Colorado Ave. S.
Minneapolis, MN 55416
Stu Rothgeber
5200 Greenfield Ave.
Mounds View, MN 55112
GENERAL
B K Builders
5727 Knox Ave. N.
Minneapolis, MN
HTG AIR COND. renewal
Hovaldt Mobile Home Service
126 No. Greeley St.
Stillwater, MN 55082
Vern's Service Supply Inc.
15605 Highway 65 N.E.
Anoka, MN 55303
SEWER WATER EXCAV,
„L.,�,.. renewal
Ray Perron
177 Cleveland Ave. S.E.
New Brighton, MN 55112
November 28, 1977 Page 3
PROPOSED METROPOLITAN REGIONAL AVIATION PLAN RESOLUTION OF CITY
COUNCIL POLICY
Mayor Pickar reported that he and Councilmember Baumgartner had attended
the New Brighton City Council meeting and had been successful in per-
suading them to take a stand opposing adoption of the proposed Aviation
Plan by the Metropolitan Council. The New Brighton Council's resolution
strongly urges that an environmental assessment be made before the
Plan is adopted. Mayor Pickar read the proposed resolution that Mounds
View plans to present.
Councilmember Baumgartner requested that the wording "effective input"
be changed to "sufficient input He also stated that he would like
the requirement of an environmental impact study to be added.
Administrator Achen recommended that a good place to request the environ-
mental impact study would be at the end of the first paragraph on the
second page. He also recommended that whoever attends the November 30
Metropolitan Council meeting have a statement prepared.
Councilmember Rowley stated that the number of schools and churches in
the area should be mentioned in the statement.
Councilmember Ziebarth stated that there would be another presentation
that evening by a concerned citizens group and that they would be
Presenting a petition with some 500 signatures opposing the expansion
of the airport.
MSP (Baumgartner Rowley) to approve Resolution No. 874 as amended. 5 ayes
Mayor Pickar stated that he would be attending the meeting, and Council
members Rowley and Ziebarth stated that they would also be attending.
Administrator Achen recommended that there be only one speaker from
the group and that he or she alter the statement to be presented dependent
upon what the previous speakers had said, in order to avoid duplication
and possible loss of attention from the Metropolitan Council.
HOME OCCUPATION REGULATIONS
Administrator Achen explained that the issue cf home occupations arose
several months ago with a complaint from a neighbor. The Council
at that time asked the Planning Commission to review the ordinance and
give its input to the Council. The Planning Commission held a public
hearing and took the basic position that the ordinance should remain
as is, except that such activities should not be allowed in garages
and should not create a neighborhood nuisance.
Administrator Achen stated that even with these changes, there are
problems with the enforcement of the ordinance. There seems to be
some home occupations that the Council and Planning Commission don't
find objectionable. If so, the ordinance should he changed to allow
these.
November 28, 1977 Page 4
Councilmember Baumgartner stated that he had sat through part of the
Planning Commission meeting when they discussed the ordinance and that
he was surprised that the phrase 'equipment not customarily found in
the home' was left in. He recommended that that statement be eliminated
to .void problems in determining what is customary and what is not.
Councilmember Baumgartner also recommended that the word 'objectionable'
be eliminated as it would be hard to determine what is objectionable.
Councilmember Rowley questioned how immediate an immediate neighbor is.
She also stated that she would prefer saying 'a room within the home'
rather than specifying what square feet the room can be, as people
would be coming in asking for variances. She also asked if it would be
possible to allow home occupations unless there were complaints.
Attorney Meyers replied that any decision would be left up to a judge.
Councilmember Rowley suggested that anyone running a home occupation
be required to register with the City and that if a complaint is filed,
the records could be checked and if they are not registered, they could
then be prosecuted.
Administrator Achen questioned if there were other sections of the
zoning code that would cover home occupations. Attorney Meyers said yes.
MSP (Pickar Ziebarth) to table the amendment to the chapter on home
occupations and direct the clerk- administrator to get together with
the city attorney to work out the proper wording.
Jim Allen, 7943 Greenfield, stated that he felt if the City was going
to prohibit home occupations, they should do it straight down the line
and not allow some while disallowing others.
Russell Pahl stated that he did not feel the City should be bothering
the people and that they should leave them alone and allow them to do
as they please.
ON -SALE INTOXICATING LIQUOR LICENSES FIRE PREVENTION IMPROVEMENTS
Administrator Achen stated that the Fire Chief had made a list of
recommendations of improvements that should be made to establishments
having on -sale liquor licenses before their licenses are renewed, to
bring them all up to standard. Administrator Achen stated that this
action was the result of requirements being placed upon one establish-
ment during the past summer before their license was renewed.
Administrator Achen reported that according to the Fire Chief, no
improvements would be required at the Anchor Inn and that between $5,000
and $15,000 of improvements would be required at both Donatelle's and
the Mermaid in order to bring them up to standarJ. Administrator Achen
recommended that the Bel Rae be checked also so as not to discriminate
between establishments.
MSP (Pickar Hodges) to direct the City Administrator to send a letter
to the businesses asking them when they would expect the improvements
Lo be made and that the Council does not intend to renew the licenses
without the improvements.
5 ayes
November 28, 1977 Page 5
STORM DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS ENGINEER'S FEASIBILITY REPORT
Roger Short, of Short Elliott- Hendrickson, referred to the feasibility
report he had sent the City and stated that it provided the same
financial information that had been submitted previously. He stated
that the cost of the total project would amount to $4,496,810, and
if approved, would hopefully start in 1978. Mr. Short displayed two
maps of the City showing the three phases of the project and the
areas they would benefit.
Councilmember Rowley stated that she would like the public to be aware
that this was just a feasibility report and that the City has not
approved or accepted it yet. This is just one in a series of steps
of working procedures to making a decision on the project.
Seegar Swanson of Ehlers and Associates presented a financial report
he had prepared for the project and gave the breakdown of what the
City could expect.
MSP (Pickar- Baumgartner) to formally receive the feasibility report
and take it under consideration and set a public hearing for Tuesday,
February 28, 1978, at 7:30 PM. 5 ayes
ORGANIZATIONAL TEAM BUILDING REPORT ON COUNCIL /STAFF RETREATS
Mayor Pickar stated that the written reports on the retreats were not
yet completed and asked each councilmember to give a statement on their
impression of the retreat. Mayor Pickar explained that on the weekend
of November 3 and 4, the Council had met with a government training
executive at 7 Pines Lodge to work out problems together, and to learn
to identify crucial problems of the City and decide the best possible
approach to them. The staff held a retreat on the following weekend
for the same purpose, and then a joint retreat was held last weekend.
Mayor Pickar stated that overall it was a much needed meeting and
accomplished a great deal.
Councilmember Rowley stated that she agreed that a great deal had been
accomplished. She felt the trainer had been able to keep them on
a specific track in order to accomplish their goals, and that they
had learned to set priorities.
Councilmember Ziebarth stated that he agreed with Councilmember Rowley
and that he felt that Peter Gregg, the trainer, did a very good job.
He stated that as a result of the retreats, hopefully the City will
be able to plan more in advance and let the people know what is happen-
ing. Councilmember Ziebarth also stated that he would be more than
willing to sit down with anyone and talk to them in detail about what
they accomplished.
Councilmember Hodges stated that he had had doubts about the retreats
at the beginning but that he now felt he had learned a great deal and
that it was a worthwhile experience.
November 28, 1977 Page 6
Councilmember Baumgartner stated that he agreed with everything that
had been said and that while he, too, was skeptical at first, he
believes the trainer did an excellent job and that better communication
between the Councilmembers and department heads was established.
Administrator Achen stated that the trainer helped guide them in
setting priorities and learning how to work with people and how to
set goals.
Councilmember Rowley added that if anyone wondered why they went to
Wisconsin for the retreat, that it was at the recommendation of the
trainer in order to avoid the day -to -day distraction of city hall.
Russell Pahl questioned why the citizens had to pay for the retreat.
He wanted to have a say in the matter before the decision was made
to go, rather than after. He also stated that he would like to see
written reports.
Councilmember Ziebarth replied that a written report is being prepared
and will be completed December 2nd. He also stated that after the
first session, he had met with Councilmember Baumgartner and together
they wrote up a report, which anyone was welcome to look at. He also
pointed out that the retreat had cost him more as an individual than
it had any taxpayer.
Councilmember Baumgartner pointed out that the retreat had been dis-
cussed at several Council meetings before it was approved. The public
is welcome to attend any meeting. If Mr. Pahl had been present at
those meetings, he could have given his input before the fact, rather
than after.
Dan Snare, Long Lake Road, stated that he had attended such a seminar
five years ago for his company and that he was still seeing the benefit
of it now.
ADMINISTRATOR. ACHENS REPORT
Administrator Achen reported that at the November 19 primary election,
there were only 20 voters. Six people were employed to cover the
election, which worked out to about $21 per ballot. He also reported
that the general election would be held on Saturday, December 3,and
asked that Judy Peterson be appointed to serve as a counter.
MSP (Pickar- Ziebarth) to appoint Judy Peterson, 2145 Dickens Lane,
an election official for the December 3 election.
ATTORNEY MEYERS REPORT
Attorney Meyers reported that he had a proposed ordinance amending
Chapter 93, which he would like the Council to review. He also stated
that the Mounds View Square assessment appeal hearing would be heard
on January 9, 1978.
5 ayes
November 28, 1977 Page 7
ENGINEER HUBBARD had no report.
COUNCILMEMBER ROWLEY'S REPORT
Councilmember Rowley reported that she had gone before the Spring Lake
Park City Council the previous Monday and presented the concerns of
the Lakeside Park Commission that she previously presented to the
Mounds View Council. She stated that the Spring Lake Park Council
would be at the December 8 Lakeside Park Commission meeting. She
asked that any Councilmembers who would be available try to attend
the meeting.
COUNCILMEMBER ZIEBARTH'S REPORT
Councilmember Ziebarth reminded everyone of the meeting scheduled
for Wednesday, November 30, at 7:30 PM at the Metro Square Building
in St. Paul with the Metropolitan Council concerning the Anoka County
Airport. He also stated that a bus would be available at City Hall,
on a first come, first served basis to go to the meeting.
COUNCILMEMBER HODGES' REPORT
Councilmember Hodges reported that he had received a letter from the
Youth Service Bureau and that they had formed a financial committee
and that he would be attending their meeting at the beginning of
December. He also pointed out that the Youth Service Bureau meetings
were Monday nights, so that he would have a conflict between them and
the Council meetings.
COUNCILMEMBER BAUMGARTNER had no report.
MAYOR PICKAR'S REPORT
Mayor Pickar stated that both he and the attorney would be out of
town on February 28 1978, which was the date set for the public
hearing on the drainage project and asked that the date be changed.
MSP Pickar- Ziebarth) to change the public hearing date for the storm
water drainage project to February 21, 1978, rather than February 28,
1978, at 7:30 PM. 5 ayes
MSP (Baumgartner Rowley) to adjourn the meeting at 10:05 PM. 5 ayes
Respectfully submitted,
Mark Achen
Clerk- Administrator