HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes - 1978/07/101. Roll call of officials
2. Approval of minutes of regular meeting June 26, 1978
3. Citizen comments and requests
5. Public hearings
A G E N D A
Mounds View City Council
July 10, 1978
CITIZENS: BEFORE SPEAKING, PLEASE GIVE YOUR FULL NAME
AND ADDRESS FOR THE MINUTES
4. Approval of consent agenda:
Item A. Project 1978 -3 acquisition of right -of -way
B. Storm Sewer Advisory Task Force resignations
C. Completion of Development Agreement 77 -11
D. Maternity leave for senior accounting clerk
E. Ordinance implementing water availability charge
F. Bills for payment
G. Licenses for approval
(a) Project 1978 -4
Mounds View Industrial Park No. 2 (7:40 PM)
(b) Project 1978 -5A and 1978 -5 (continued)
Drainage Mounds View Square Edgewood Drives extension (8:OOPM)
(c) Mounds View Square Addition (continued)
Preliminary plat and rezoning (8:15 PM)
6. Mounds View Industrial Park No. 2
Final plat and development agreement
7. Minor subdivision of 8100 Groveland Road (Sjodin)
8. Horse Rider Western Wear addition
9. County Road H -2
Speed limit reduction
10. Industrial development revenue bond funding
Concept approval
11. Off -sale liquor
Friday night closing hour
12. Industrial strength ordinance
13. Reports of officials
14. Adjournment
CONSENT AGENDA
July 10, 1978
The consent agenda is a technique designed to expedite handling of
routine and miscellaneous official business of the City Council. The
entire agenda may be adopted by the Council in one motion. The motion
for adoption is non debatable and must receive unanimous approval. By
request of any individual Council Member, any item can be removed from
the consent agenda and placed upon the regular agenda for debate.
ITEM A. Authorize city attorney to proceed with necessary right -of -way
acquisition for Improvement Project 1978 -3.
ITEM B. Accept resignations of Philip Carlson and James Wills from the
Citizens Storm Sewer Advisory Task Force.
ITEM C. Adopt Resolution No. 904 acknowledging satisfactory completion
of the terms of Development Agreement 77 -11 with Steven Loeffler
for duplex construction on Woodlawn Drive and authorizing refund
of the applicable financial security posted with the Agreement.
ITEM D. Authorize maternity leave for senior accounting clerk, Margaret
Long, beginning July 1, 1978, and extending no longer than
January 1, 1979.
ITEM E. Adopt Ordinance No. k82 amending the Municipal Code by revising
Chapter 70.01, "Municipal Water System, Applications, Permits
and Fees." This ordinance implements Council's decision at
the June 12, 1978, meeting to charge a trunk, source and storage
contribution of $200.00 per residential unit or in the case of
other than residentially zoned property $1,600.00 per acre for
new water connections.
ITEM F. Approve the July 10, 1978, bills for payment.
ITEM G. Approve the following licenses:
RESTAURANT expire 6/30/79 renewal
Best Steak House
2555 U. S. Highway 10
CONTRACTORS expire 6/30/79 new
General Excavating
L. Gudmunson Construction Inc.
10800 Xavis St. N.W.
The Snelling Company
1400 Concordia
CONTRACTORS expire 6/30/7n renewal
General
Ro -My Construction
7647 Knollwood Drive
Lyn /Dale Homes
1480 Yankee Doodle Road
Advance Construction
2227 University Ave.
Julian M. Johnson Construction
10610 N.E. Nassau St. N.E.
Kozitza Construction
5230 Greenfield Ave.
Harstad -Todd Construction
2200 Silver Lake Road
Buzzell Builders
2765 LaPort
Beaver Plumbing
20425 Jackson St. N.E.
Wayne Johnson Construction
4556 Tyler St. N.E.
Riggs Construction
2200 Erin Court
The Sussel Company
1850 Como Avenue
Gilbert Construction Co.
1202 Jackson St.
Sunnyside Builders
5237 Sunnyside Road
M. J. Arndt Construction
2808 Sherwood Rd.
(.Consent Agenda
ITEM G. (continued)
Heating
Lyn /Dale Homes
1480 Yankee Doodle Road
Larson Mac Company
1509 Coon Rapids Blvd.
Rudy's Burner Service
2415 N. E. Constance Blvd.
Fred Vogt Company
3260 Gorham Ave. S.
Englund Heating Inc.
Isanti, MN
Frank's Heating Air Cond.
3107 California St. N.E.
Suburban Htg Air Cond.
2050 White Bear Ave. N.
Central Air Cond. Htg.
1971 Seneca Road
Denny's Mobilehome Service
745 llth Ave. N.W.
Concrete /Masonry
Norsk Concrete Construction
7401 Central Ave. N.E.
Master Masonry, Inc.
14914 93rd Ave. No.
Northland Concrete Masonry
11990 Riverwood Drive
Asphalt /Blacktop
United Asphalt Co.
7925 Beech St. N.E.
C S Blacktopping
8832 W. Broadway
Excavating
Brighton Excavating Company
1920 Highway 96
Balfany Contractors
5500 France Ave. N.
Sign Erection
Gold Metal Beverage
553 N. Fairview Ave.
Western Outdoor Advertising
4000 Grant St.
Brede Inc.
2211 Broadway N.E.
Fence Installation
Able Fence
229 Sherburne Ave.
Montgomery Ward
1400 University Ave.
Sewer Water
Schulties Plumbing Co.
4549 175th Ave. N.W.
-2- July 10, 1978
Mill City Htg Air Conditioning
13005 B 16th Ave. N.
Pump Meter Service
2711 E. Franklin Ave.
Neil Hubbard Htg Air Cond.
99 North Snelling
Geo. Sedgwick Htg Air Cond.
1001 Xenia Ave. S.
Don's Air Cond. Htg. Refrig.
3903 Foss Road N.E.
Blaine Htg Air Cond.
13562 Central Ave. N.E.
Horwitz Mechanical Inc.
1411 llth Ave. S.
Co. Montgomery Ward
1400 University Ave.
American Burner Service
10101 Naples St. N.E.
Ted Galla
1134 E. Minnehaha
Carroll Buzzell Brick Cement
22055 Lake George Blvd. N.W.
Carl B. Anderson vlacktopping
Route 3 North Branch, MN
T. A. Schifsky Sons
2370 E. 7th Ave.
Waalen Sabby Inc.
9082 Polk St. N.E.
Lawrence Signs
945 Pierce Butler Route
Naegele Outdoor Advertising
1700 W. 78th St.
A -1 Fence Co.
141 104th Lane N.E.
PROCEEDINGS OF THE CITY COUNCIL
CITY OF MOUNDS VIEW
RAMSEY COUNTY, MINNESOTA
A regular meeting of the Mounds View City Council was called to order by Mayor
Pickar at 7:35 PM on July 10, 1978, at the Mounds View City Hall, 2401 Highway 10
Mounds View, Minnesota 55112.
Members present: Also present:
Mayor Pickar Engineer Hubbard
Councilmember Ziebarth Attorney Meyers
Councilmember Hodges Building Zoning Official Rose
Councilmember Baumgartner
Councilmember Rowley
MSP Pickar- Rowley) to appoint Pamela Case as deputy clerk to take the minutes. 5 ayes
Councilmember Baumgartner asked that the minutes of the June 26, 1978, meeting
be corrected to read on page 4, paragraph 3, Tuesday morning, June 27, rather
than Friday morning.
Councilmember Ziebarth asked that the minutes be corrected on page 2, regarding
Mr. Notaro's problem, that one solution would be to run pipes south, pipes that
would run parallel, pipes that would run east, or a holding pond.
Councilmember Ziebarth asked that page 3 of the minutes be clarified regarding
Engineer Hubbard's time, that he was working with the Maintenance Department
on the festival as just one item of his time, and not a considerable amount.
MSP (Hodges Ziebarth) to approve the minutes of the June26, 1978, meeting as
corrected above and to include the following amendments:
on page 12, the motion regarding on -sale intoxicating liquor licenses shall
include approval of renewal of on -sale intoxicating liquor licenses to be
issued to: Louis Gydesen for Anchor Inn, Edward Donatelle for Donatelle's,
Albert J. Hartinger for the Launching Pad, and Charles Hall for the Mermaid
for the license period July 1, 1978 June 30, 1979;
one page 16, the motion adopting Ordinance No. 281 shall include authorization
for staff to refund the SDM charges collected by the city for additions or
alterations as covered under Ordinance No. 281. 5 ayes
Councilmember Rowley stated that she was still abstaining from a vote on the SDM
charge refund.
CITIZEN COMMENTS AND REQUESTS
David Notaro, 2749 Arden Avenue, stated that he had had to drain his back yard of
water four times since the last Council meeting, with the water being 26" deep
at one point in his yard on July 6. He stated that he realized the Council
had ordered a feasibility study of the problem, but wanted them to be kept aware of it.
Richard Lynn, 2244 Terrace, asked if Mr. Notaro had been aware of the landscaping
when he bought his home. Mr. Notaro replied that the water problem comes from the
storm sewer, not the water table.
Mr. Lynn asked why permission was given for a house to be constructed at St.
Michael and Oakwood, where there was a considerable water problem. Mayor Pickar
replied that it would be covered during the public hearing.
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Earl Smith, 2265 Pinewood stated that the City Council and Planning Commission
give permission for the bui' ling permits and set the requirements, and that it
was not the fault of the building inspector. Councilmember Baumgartner replied
that the Planning Commission and City Council do not issue building permits but
that they do approve subdivisions. Mr. Smith replied that they should see that
all development is brought up to code.
MSP (Baumgartner- Rowley) to approve the consent agenda as follows: 5 ayes
ITEM A. Authorize city attorney to proceed with necessary right -of -way
acquisition for Improvement Project 1978 -3.
ITEM B. Accept resignations of Philip Carlson and James Wills from the
Citizens Storm Sewer Advisory Task Force.
ITEM C. Adopt Resolution No. 904 acknowledging satisfactory completion
of the terms of Development Agreement 77 -11 with Steven Loeffler
for duplex construction on Woodlawn Drive and authorizing refund
of the applicable financial security posted with the Agreement.
ITEM D. Authorize maternity leave for senior accounting clerk, Margaret
Long, beginning July 1, 1978, and extending no longer than
January 1, 1979.
ITEM E. Adopt Ordinance No. 282 amending the Municipal Code by revising
Chapter 70.01, "Municipal Water System, Applications, Permits
and Fees." This ordinance implements Council's decision at
the June 12, 1978, meeting to charge a trunk, source and storage
contribution of $200.00 per residential unit or in the case of
other than residentially zoned property $1,600.00 per acre for
new water connections.
ITEM F. Approve the July 10, 1978, bills for payment.
ITEM G. Approve the following licenses:
RESTAURANT expire 6/30/79 renewal
Best Steak House
2555 U. S. Highway 10
CONTRACTORS expire 6/30/79
General
L. Gudmunson Construction Inc.
10800 Xavis St. N.W.
The Snelling Company
1400 Concordia
CONTRACTORS expire 6/30/79
General
Ro Construction
7647 Knollwood Drive
Lyn /Dale Homes
1480 Yankee Doodle Road
new
Excavating
Beaver Plumbing
20425 Jackson St. N.E.
renewal
Wayne Johnson Construction
4556 Tyler St. N.E.
Riggs Construction
2200 Erin Court
July 10, 1978
Advance Construction
2227 University Ave.
Julian M. Johnson Construction
10610 N.E. Nassau St. N.E.
Kozitza Construction
5230 Greenfield Ave.
Harstad -Todd Construction
2200 Silver Lake Ro^d
Buzzell Builders
2765 LaFort
Heating
Lyn /Dale Homes
1480 Yankee Doodle Road
Larson Mac Company
1509 Coon Rapids Blvd.
Rudy's Burner Service
2415 N. E. Constance Blvd.
Fred Vogt Company
3260 Gorham Ave. S.
Englund Heating Inc.
Isanti, MN
Frank's Heating Air Cond.
3107 California St. N.E.
Suburban Htg Air Cond.
2050 White Bear Ave. N.
Central Air Cond. Htg. Co.
1971 Seneca Road
Denny's Mobilehome Service
745 llth Ave. N.W.
Concrete /Masonry
Norsk Concrete Construction
7401 Central Ave. N.E.
Master Masonry, Inc.
14914 93rd Ave. No.
Northland Concrete Masonry
11990 Riverwood Drive
Asphalt /Blacktop
United Asphalt Co.
7925 Beech St. N.E.
C S Blacktopping
8832 W. Broadway
The Sussel Company
1850 Como Avenue
Gilbert Construction Co.
1202 Jackson St.
Sunnyside Builders
5237 Sunnyside Road
M. J. Arndt Construction
2808 Sherwood Rd.
Mill City Htg Air Conditioning
13005 B 16th Ave. N.
Pump Meter Service
2711 E. Franklin Ave.
Neil oc Hubbard Htg Air Cond.
99 North Snelling
Geo. Sedgwick Htg Air Cond.
1001 Xenia Ave. S.
Don's Air Cond. Htg. Refrig.
3903 Foss Road N.E.
Blaine Htg Air Cond.
13562 Central Ave. N.E.
Horwitz Mechanical Inc.
1411 llth Ave. S.
Montgomery Ward
1400 University Ave.
American Burner Service
10101 Naples St. N.E.
Ted Galla
1934 E. Minnehaha
Carroll Buzzell Brick Cement
22055 Lake George Blvd. N.W.
Carl B. Anderson Blacktopping
Route 3 North Branch, MN
T. A. Schifsky Sons
2370 E. 7th Ave.
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Excavating
Brighton Excavating Company
1920 Highway 96
Balfany Contractors
5500 France Ave. N.
Sign Erection
Gold Metal Beverage
553 N. Fairview Ave.
Western Outdoor Advertising
4000 Grant St.
Brede Inc.
2211 Broadway N.E.
Fence Installation
Able Fence
229 Sherburne Ave.
Montgomery Ward
1400 University Ave.
Sewer Water
Schulties Plumbing Co.
4549 175th Ave. N.W.
Waalen Sabby Inc.
9082 Polk St. N.E.
Lawrence Signs
945 Pierce Butler Route
Naegele Outdoor Advertising
1700 W. 78th St.
A -1 Fence Co.
141 104th Lane N.E.
Mayor Pickar recessed the regular meeting and opened the first public hearing.
PROJECT 1978 -4 MOUNDS VIEW INDUSTRIAL PARK NO. 2
Engineer Hubbard reported that Project 1978 was designed for the implementation
of the Mounds View Industrial Park #2, which includes lots 1, 2 and 3 at the west
end of Mustang Drive. It would include the extension of sanitary sewer, water
main, additional storm sewer and street. The estimated cost of the project is
$118,650. Engineer Hubbard broke down the cost of the various improvements and
proposed assessments. He added that Mustang Lane was proposed to provide additional
access to the area in case of an emergency.
MSP (Pickar-Hodges) to order the improvement and the plans and specs for the extension as
required.by Staff, and provide that 100% of the assessments be assessed to the
owners, as described. The specs will be prepared by Short, Elliott and Hen-
drickson.
Mayor Pickar closed the public hearing and reopened the regular meeting.
COUNTY ROAD H -2 SPEED LIMIT REDUCTION
Mayor Pickar reported that a resolution had been prepared requesting a lower speed
limit for County Road H2, as a result of a request from the citizens along H2.
Mayor Pickar read the resolution.
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5 ayes
July 10, 1978
MSP (Rowley Ziebarth) to approve Resolution #905.
Councilmember Ziebarth asked if a petition had been received from the gentleman
who had made the request at the previous Council meeting, as he had said he
would circulate a petition in the neighborhood. Councilmember Rowley replied
that the gentleman's name was Ron Kritzik, 2512 County Road H2, and that Staff
could contact him to see if he had a v etition.
Mayor Pickar recessed the regular meeting and opened the next public hearing.
PROJECT 1978 -5 and 1978 -5A DRAINAGE MOUNDS VIEW SQUARE EDGEWOOD DRIVE EXTENSION
Engineer Hubbard reported that the hearing was for two projects, 1978 -5 for the
extension of Edgewood from County Road I to Hillview, and 1978 -5A, for storm
sewer on Edgewood.
Engineer Hubbard outlined three alternatives for the project.,, with Alternative
#1 estimated to cost $180,250, Alternative #2 estimated to cost $116,500 and
Alternative #3 estimated to cost $230,850. Engineer Hubbard explained the proposed
assessments would range from 2.2t per square foot to 9.1¢ per square foot, depending
upon the alternative selected, and that the street improvements for extending
Edgewood would be elegible for 100% funding from State aid. Engineer Hubbard added
that the area of benefit would be that area which would drain into the proposed
storm sewer.
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5 ayes
Mr. Smith, 5567 St. Stephans stated that the Blaine sewer runs through his back
yard. Engineer Hubbard explained that it was a sanitary sewer, not a storm sewer.
Mr. Lynn stated that the residents of the area do not want the project. Engineer
Hubbard replied that their water is running somewhere and must be taken care of,
and thus, they would be benefitted. He added that provisions would most likely
be made for the handicapped and elderly.
Charles Mectil, 5533 St. Michael Street stated he already had a storm sewer system.
Engineer Hubbard replied that that system was inadequate for even a three year storm.
Duane McCarty, 8060 Long Lake Road, stated that some concerned citizens had
taken a survey of 159 homes and asked four questions regarding the project, of
which two homes were in favor of the project and 26 wanted more information. Mr.
McCarty stated that it was his belief from previous statements made by the Council
members and Mayor that they would vote for what the citizens wanted, and that he
felt they should turn down Projects 1978 -5 and 1978 -5A.
Fred Batey, 2316 Hillview stated that he had received a notice of the public heaf'ing
and spoken to the City Engineer and felt there were several inconsistencies with
the project. He stated that he did not feel Mounds View citizens should complain
about their water problems, when compared to cities such as Rochester and Minneapolis
who had had considerable problems.
Neil Loeding, 5046 Longview Drive asked if 1978 -5A had been petitioned for. Mayor
Pickar replied that it had been added at the request of residents who had water
problems.
August 1977 minutes Mr. Harstad stated that he
Mr. Loeding stated that in the 8,
agreed to be assessed for si:: lots and asked whether the property owners would
July 10, 1978 Page 6
be assessed. Engineer Hubbard replied that the development agreement was worded
that Mr. Harstad would be assessed if he owned the property at the time of the
assessment, otherwise the current owner would be assessed, and that he was required
to notify all purchasers of pending assessments and file a signed copy of the
notification with the City.
Mr. Loeding asked if a 10% park dedication or payment would be required from the
developer. Engineer Hubbard replied that it would be required if the subdivision
was approved.
Mr. Mectil asked what would be required to make the storm sewer on St. Michael's
adequate. Engineer Hubbard replied that a larger pipe would be required and that
St. Michael did not have a storm sewer but would drain into one.
Mr. Lynn asked if it would be possible to tip the street toward the slew so the
water ran to the slew. Engineer Hubbard replied that the road was designed for
the drainage to go to Jackson to the storm sewer and that the pond did not have
an outlet.
Mr. Batey stated that he did not have problems with water back in the 50's and
that he felt projects were being okayed to help the developers rather than home
owners. He stated he felt walk out basements should not be allowed.
Sue Jenson, 7800 Bona Road stated she had not received notice of the hearing.
She also stated she had been told by the Building Inspector that her home was not
up to code for her handicapped mother -in -law and had been told that sha could not
put in an extra driveway, as it was not allowed for in the code. She added that
she was against the project and that she felt if it was passed by the Council,
someone was getting a payoff.
Engineer Hubbard stated that 152 notices were mailed on June 30, 1978 regarding
the public hearing, to residents of the proposed area of benefit.
Carl Helmer, 7845 Bona Road stated that he had not received notice of the hearing
and that some of his neighbors had and some hadn't.
Councilmember Rowley asked if any notices were received back by the City. Official
Rose replied that only two were received back, marked undeliverable. Engineer Hubbard
added that the City uses a mailing list from the County, and that the list had been
updated in January 1978.
Dennis Smith stated that in 1974 he had had water problems in his basement and had
contacted the City Council and previous building inspector, who told him to put in
a sump pump, and asked why further permits were issued for building.
Mayor Pickar stated that type of home built is up to the home owner and that guide-
lines are followed.
Official Rose explained that at the present time, the Building Inspections Depart-
ment is responsible for issuing building permits, and that is done between the
Building Inspector and himself. He explained that since he started in 1975, he
has required test holes for all new homes for the purpose of observing where the
water table is. He stated that the Council has approved a policy whereby if water
is found closer than 4' to the floor of the basement, drain tile is required. Official
Rose stated that he has strongly recommended against walk out basements being built
but that it is the City's legal opinion that they cannot refuse walk outs. He stated
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that as of the past year, the Council has been following the Short, Elliott,
Hendrickson report, showing where the water table is and requiring basement floors
be 5' above the water table.
Mr. Lynn asked why a house was allowed to be built at Oakwood and St. Michael due
to the water. Official Rose replied that there are two people who can make inspectio
and that he had not personally inspected the site but would do so. Councilmember
Hodges added that he had viewed the home and it appeared that the water table was
coming up and that they could not control mother nature.
Councilmember Rowley asked if the home had been issued an occupancy permit yet.
Official Rose replied that the foundation had just been put in. Councilmember
Rowley stated that now that the home had been brought to the attention of the City,
some restraint or action could be taken.
Peter Sargent asked if the project would take care of the problem at County Road I
and Jackson. Engineer Hubbard replied that he felt it would. Mr. Sargent stated
that he had solved the problem of the water gushing out by putting a garbage can
into the culvert. Engineer Hubbard replied that he had looked into getting check
valves, but they were not made for 15" pipes.
MSP (Pickar Ziebarth) to reject Project 1978 -5 and 1978 -5A, and that the Mounds
View Square plat and Edgewood. Drive extension can not be developed unless a storm
sewer system is installed, due to the high cost of the projects and question of
benefit to the abutting property, unless the developer is willing to assume the
full cost of the improvements.
A rollcall vote was taken:
Mr. Sargent stated that the Task Force is preparing a report which will be ready
sometime within the next week regarding the water problems.
Mayor Pickar closed the public hearing and opened the next public hearing.
MOUNDS VIEW SQUARE ADDITION PRELIMINARY PLAT AND REZONING
MSP (Rowley Ziebarth) to deny the preliminary plat and rezoning for Mounds View
Square Addition based on the previous motion denying projects 1978 -5 and 1978 -5A.
A rollcall vote was taken:
Councilmember Ziebarth aye
Councilmember Baumgartner aye
Councilmember Hodges aye
Councilmember Rowley aye
Mayor Pickar aye
Councilmember Ziebarth aye
Councilmember Baumgartner aye
Councilmember Hodges aye
Councilmember Rowley aye
Mayor Pickar aye
Mayor Pickar closed the public hearing and reopened the regular meeting.
5 ayes
5 ayes
July 10, 1978
MOUNDS VIEW INDUSTRIAL PARK NO. 2 FINAL PLAT AND DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT
Official Rose reported that the original preliminary plat submitted by the developer
has been revised in the final plat submission, extending the cul -de -sac 110' and
widening Mustang Road frontage on lot 1 from 200' to 451'. The revision was made
due to the soil tests made of lots 1 and 2, which produced poor soil conditions
along the south and west portions of lots 1 and 2 combined. Official Rose stated
that he had discussed the changes with Attorney Meyers and that it was resolved
that an additional public hearing would not be required.
Official Rose recommended that the development agreement include having the developer
install two street lights, one at the cul -de -sac end and one at the intersection
of Mustang Road and Mustang Lane, submit a 20' road easement for access to Water
Tower 2 along the east 20' of lot 3, be required to pay assessments within a five
year period during which time he be required to post a bond or escrow for the
cost of the improvements not received, or agree to the apportionment of the total
improvement cost to lots 1 and 3 if lot 2 is found to be unbuildable.
Attorney Meyers stated that in some cases the developer is required to install his
own improvements, which requires that a bond be posted to guarantee it, but that if
the improvements are going to be done by the City and assessed back to the property,
it would not be necessary for the developer to post that amount.
Mr. Beim stated that he had not had an opportunity to look ov.r the development
agreement and that he would like to go over it with his attorney and other partners
and asked if his attorney could have changes made to the development agreement if
he felt it was necessary, subject to Staff's approval. Attorney Meyers replied
that changes could be made if they were not material ones.
MSP (Pickar- Hodges) to adopt Resolution No. 906 approving the final plat of
Mounds View Industrial Park No. 2 and Resolution No. 907 authorizing execution
of Development Agreement 78 -17 as recommended by Staff, with the changes as
described, and that the developer install two street lights and post a $1500
bond, and that the developer agrees to a 20' road easement for access to
Water Tower #2, along the east 20' of lot 3 and that no assessment bond be
required from the developer as the assessments will be levied against the
property.
MSP (Rowley Ziebarth) to amend the previous motion to include that the developer
must agree to the apportionment of the total improvement cost to lots 1 and 3 if
lot 2 is found to be unbuildable.
MINOR SUBDIVISION OF 8100 GROVELAND ROAD
Mr. Sjodin explained that he was requesting a minor subdivision at 8100 Groveland
Road. The property is 400' by 155', and he is requesting to subdivide into two
772' by 200' lots.
Official Rose explained that the Council had recently changed the minimum frontage
requirements to 75', and since Mr. Sjodin was requesting 771/2' lots, they would now
be approvable. He added that Staff would recommend the Council place a building
moratorium on the south lot until the Knollwood extension is resolved.
Councilmember Ziebarth asked where the drainage goes. Mr. Sjodin replied that it
goes toward Groveland and also back on the property, since the lot is very deep.
Mr. Sjodi►i also questioned if a moratorium was necessary. Attorney Meyers replied
it would have to be agreed upon by all parties, and that the Council would have to
have a good reason for declaring a moratorium, and that there is no hearing set
for the extension of Knollwood.
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5 ayes
5 ayes
July 10, 1978 Page 9
Engineer Hubbard stated that a petition had been presented to the City two or three
years earlier but that it did not have the required 35
Councilmember Ziebarth asked if there had been any drainage problems with the lot.
Engineer Hubbard replied that there have not been any reported problems. He added
that there was a house on the lot at one time.
Mr. Sjodin stated that he is merely asking for a minor subdivision and is not in
favor of a moratorium on the one lot and that he does meet all the legal require-
ments for a minor subdivision.
Councilmember Baumgartner pointed out that the moratorium would be on the lot that
Mr. Sjodin did not plan to build on. Councilmember Ziebarth added that if Mr.
Sjodin decides to build to the south of lot A, he would land lock the rest of lot B.
Attorney Meyers stated that the Knollwood extension question had been before the
Council several times and that the Council had decided there would be no further
action until a petition was received with 35 He added that the City would have
to be in a planning process under the Comprehensive Plan in order to :.declare a valid
moratorium.or that the property had other physical problems that would affect the
public health, safety and welfare.
MSP Ziebarth- Pickar) to approve the subdivision request of Ken Sjodin. 5 ayes
HORSE AND RIDER WESTERN WEAR ADDITION
Mr. Korf of Horse and Rider explained that they would like to put on a 30' x 40'
warehouse addition to their present building.
MSP (Pickar- Hodges) to approve the request of Horse and Rider Western Wear
as submitted, as recommended by the Planning Commission and Staff and adopt
Resolution No. 908 authorizing execution of Development Agreement 78 -18.
Councilmember Rowley questioned why a bond amount had not been included for the
addition. Mayor Pickar replied that he felt a bond for $900 was a very minor
detail. Councilmember Rowley stated that it should then be explained which
items the bonding would have covered.
Mayor Pickar stated that the items Staff had recommended would be included in
a development agreement and that the bond would not be required because of the
minimum amount, and since the City had not had any problems with the development
in the past.
INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT REVENUE BOND FUNDING CONCEPT APPROVAL
Attorney Meyers reported that two applications for industrial development revenue
bond funding had been submitted for Midway Industrial Supply Company and an
office warehouse development for John and Bruce Thesenga. Attorney Meyers explained
that this would be in the nature of an industrial revenue bond or mortgage where
the parties would build in the City and be financed by a tax -free bond. He added
that the parpose of the bond would be to allow the developer- to build in the City,
provide jobs and for the welfare of the City and provide a tax base. He added
that there would be no tax levied if the parties defaulted, but in the event of a
default, the City's name would appear. The request would also have to be approved
by the Commissioner of Industrial Development for the State.
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John Freedman, of Briggs and Morgan,
and was now requesting concept appro
Mr. Thesenga, of NASCO North Central
for welding and safety distributors,
24 employees.
stated that he had prepared the application
val.
explained that his company is a wholesaler
and are presently located in St. Paul with
Councilmember Ziebarth asked if there would be room for expansion on the lot, and
what the benefit to the City would be and if an effort would be made to employ
Mounds View residents. Mr. Thesenga replied that they would have room for expansion
on the lot and that his company is growing and has always tried to hire locally.
He added that he will be closing his St. Paul office and was not sure if all his
employees would transfer to the new location. He also stated that his annual
payroll is approximately $700,000.
Councilmember Baumgartner asked what the construction cost of the building would
be and what the size of the bond would be. Mr. Thesenga replied that construction
costs would run about $550,000 to $600,000, and that he hoped to be able to put
down 25 from the equity in his present building.
Councilmember Baumgartner asked what would happen to the land and building if the
owners defaulted. Attorney Meyers replied that the bank would own it.
Ken Breskee, 2280 Terrace asked who would get the tax savings. Mr. Freedman replied
that the bank would get the tax savings on the interest they make on the loan.
Mr. McCarty asked if a default would affect the City's bond rating. Attorney
Meyers replied that it should not.
Mr. Steinmueller of Midway Industrial Supply Company explained that he started his
firm in 1955 with three employees and presently has 15 employees. He stated that
they are presently located in Roseville but are running out of space. He added
that they sell and service industrial spray equipment and sell equipment to
manufacturers of fiberglass products.
Mr.Steinmueller stated that the estimated cost of his building would be $250,000 to
$300,000 and that he has already purchased the land, which will serve as a down
payment.
Mr. Freedman pointed out that both applicants will be investing a good deal of
money into the project. Attorney Meyers asked if an audited financial statement
was available for review. Mr. Thesenga replied that the only person who sees his
is his banker but that he would agree to Attorney Meyers reviewing it but would
not make it available for the public.
MSP Pickar- Ziebarth) to give concept approval to the plan as presented tonight
on the basis of the information presented, and direct the City Attorney to review
the information and take the next steps necessary to bring the transaction along. 5 ayes
OFF -SALE LIQUOR FRIDAY NIGHT CLOSING HOUR
Mayor Pickar reported that Rita Waste of B R Liquor requested to have their
closing time changed from 8 PM to 10 PM on Friday nights, due to a recent change
in the State law.
July 10, 1978 Page 11
Attorney Meyers explained that the last session of the Legislature authorized
the additional two hours for the Friday night closings and that each community
must pass their own ordinances if they decide to go along with the extension in
hours.
Mayor Pickar stated that the City has always conformed to the statutes as autho-
rized by the State. He added that the Police Chief feels it would be advisable
to extend the hours to conform to the law.
MSP Pickar- Rowley) co have the City Attorney prepare an ordinance change for
approval or denial at the next meeting. 5 Ayes
INDUSTRIAL STRENGTH ORDINANCE
Attorney Meyers stated that he had reviewed the industrial strength ordinance
and read the ordinance.
MSP (Hodges Ziebarth) to approve Ordinance #284.
5 ayes
ENGINEER HUBBARD'S REPORT
Engineer Hubbard reported that the City had received a quotation from the Donohue
Thornton Insurance Agency on the City's Comprehensive General Liability coverage.
The premium for one year will be $6222, a $100 increase over last year.
MSP (Hodges Ziebarth) to renew the Comprehensive General Liability policy. 5 ayes
Engineer Hubbard reported that several requests had been received for pumping out
flooded yards, and to date the City has only pumped at 2740 Ardan Avenue, where
the storm sewers have backed up, and where the City might possibly have some
liability. Engineer Hubbard suggested the City might want to purchase an extra
pump and hose, with funding to come from the SDM charges, and have this equipment
available to be used by residents upon request, with the payment of a damage
deposit.
Councilmember Ziebarth asked what size pumps rental agencies would have available.
Engineer Hubbard replied that he had not checked their sizes but that he was aware
they were very difficult to rent now due to the water conditions around the metro-
politan area.
Mr. Sargent stated that he had checked into the rental and found pumps to be
available for $170 per month.
Engineer Hubbard recommended that a time limit be set on the use of the pump and
that people be put on a waiting list. Councilmember Ziebarth stated he could
forsee problems with a large scramble of people trying to get the pumps at one time.
He added that he was not sure small pumps could take care of the problem, versus
the large one the City has been using.
Mayor Pickar stated he would like the Task Force to review the issue and look into
the fe sibi1it of p p a i ho inf a nal a r
available for the Council to act on at the next Council meeting.
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Engineer Hubbard stated that at the June 26 meeting the Council did not take any
action on the ordering of a feasibility study for a storm sewer on Woodcrest
because they did not know which consultant to refer the study to. He added that
the feasibility study could only consider two alternatives, replacement pipe or
parallel pipes, and thus would not matter if the engineering firm was a pipe
designer or ditch designer. Engineer Hubbard recommended that the firm of
Comstock and Davis do the study.
Mr. Sargent read a prepared statement from the Task Force, recommended different
engineering firms, and recommended Barr Associates for Ardan Avenue and Short,
Elliott, Hendrickson for Woodcrest, or Comstock and Davis.
Engineer Hubbard replied that the Ardan Avenue engineer had already been selected
and had most likely started on the project. Attorney Meyers added that the firm
could be changed only if a contract had not been signed or work started, unless
the City paid for the work already done.
Mr. Loeding stated the Task Force wants the right firm to do the right job, other-
wise they won't make a recommendation. Councilmember Baumgartner asked what was
the criteria to be used in selecting the right firm. Mr. Loeding replied that
they should use natural drainage.
Engineer Hubbard pointed out that the Council had already ordered the feasibility
study with four alternatives to be explored, and that a letter had been sent to
Short, Elliott and Hendrickson requesting their services. He added that the City
would have to enter into an engineering services agreement with a new firm.
Mr. Sargent asked when the Task Force would be involved. Engineer Hubbard replied
that the Task Force had discussed the four alternatives with the Council before
they were given to Short, Elliott, and Hendrickson.
Engineer Hubbard pointed out that engineering firms do not like to enter into
agreements when they know there is not much work to be done, and that when a
City has several firms and very few projects, most firms would not wish to enter
into an agreement.
Mr. Sargent stated he would like Short, Elliott and Hendrickson to do the Woodcrest
study and Comstock and Davis the Ardan Avenue study, if possible.
Councilmember Rowley pointed out that the City had originally used Comstock and
Davis then switched to Short, Elliott and Hendrickson and asked why that change
had been made. Mayor Pickar replied that the City wanted to explore the use of
another firm. Engineer Hubbard added that Short, Elliott and Hendrickson had
been selected to do the storm water report, and the City had to enter into an
agreement with them, and then decided to use them on other projects. He added
that Comstock and Davis is a much smaller firm but has served the City well.
MSP (Pickar Ziebarth) to contact Short, Elliott and Hendrickson in the morning
and have them do the feasibility study on Woodcrest rather than Ardan Avenue,
and that Comstock and Davis be contacted to do the study on Ardan Avenue.
A rollcall vote was taken:
Councilmemhpr 7iebarth aye
Councilmember Hodges aye
Councilmember Baumgartner aye
Councilmember Rowley aye
Mayor Pickar aye
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Councilmember Baumgartner pointed out that at the last Council meeting they
had voted 3 to 2 to employ Short, Elliott and Hendrickson to do the Ardan
Avenue study and questioned the City's credibility for changing firms in the
middle of the study.
ATTORNEY MEYERS' REPORT
Attorney Meyers reported that two more decisions had come from the courts on the
trucking ordinance and that in both cases the ordinance had been upheld, by
different judges.
Attorney Meyers stated that the Northcrest Park people have requested that Raymond
Avenue be vacated, which will require a public hearing.
MSP (Rowley- Ziebarth) to set the public hearing for the vacating of Raymond Avenue
at 7:40 PM on August 14, 1978. 5 ayes
Attorney Meyers reported that a decision had been made in the Mounds View Square
assessment case and that the court had found the assessment to be justified and
had upheld the assessment.
COUNCILMEMBER ZIEBARTH'S REPORT
Councilmember Ziebarth stated that he wanted to clarify the minutes of the previous
meeting regarding the grants from the Land Use Advisory Committee, and restated
his opinion on the division of the funds between the rural and urban and suburban
communities.
Mr. McCarty stated he would like to express his satisfaction with the great job the
Police Department is doing, and stated three instances where he had needed them
and they were available immediately. He stated he would like to thank them for
their good work.
COUNCILMEMBER BAUMGARTNER'S REPORT
Councilmember Baumgartner reported that at the last meeting he had discussed the
statement made by Dennis Quan, that a member or members of the Mounds View City
Council were taking money for favors on votes, and had strongly recommended that
Mr. Quan contact the Ramsey County Attorney's office with any information he might
have. Councilmember Baumgartner stated that he had checked with the Attorney's
office frequently and that by 11:55 on June 30, no one had contacted the Attorney's
office, and thus he could only assume that the comments and allegations made were
false. He added that the Ramsey County Attorney's office does not have an
investigative staff and that he did not feel the City or he himself should have to
go to the expense of pursuing the matter further. He stated that he felt no comment
from Mr. Quan was an indication of a wrong or false statement.
Mr. Loeding stated he would like the witness to the statements brought forth.
Councilmember Baumgartner replied that he had made a personal decision not to
pursue the matter further. Mayor Pickar added that the individual involved had
been given ample time and opportunity to prove his statement, but did not, and
thus the logical conclusion could only be that the statement was false.
July 10, 1978
Mr. Sargent stated he felt Councilmember Baumgartner was a trouble maker and should
apologize to Mr. Quan. Mayor Pickar replied that the mere fact that Mr. Quan made
the statement has done irrepairable damage, and he was sure Mr. Quan was sorry he
had made the statement and equally sorry he did not come forth.
Councilmember Hodges added that Mr. Quan should have made a statement to the Council
when he was given the chance to apologize.
COUNCILMEMBER HODG!S' REPORT
Councilmember Hodges stated that he was concerned with the vacant Moga farm in the City,
as it was being wrecked by kids. Councilmember Rowley replied that the Police
Department is patrolling the farm. Engineer Hubbard added that the property is
owned by the County.
COUNCILMEMBER ROWLEY'S REPORT
Councilmember Rowley reported that the Lakeside Park Commission would be meeting
July 13 at 7:30 in Spring Lake Park. She added that they have not heard back
from Ramsey County regarding the park anc will have to have a budget session on it.
Councilmember Rowley reported that she had received a letter from Judge Hachey
regarding the charter commission and asked that a copy be given to the New Brighton
Bulletin.
Councilmember Rowley stated the City should be cautious with the type of juggling
they do with professional firms, and they do not want to lose credibility.
MAYOR PICKAR'S REPORT
Mayor Pickar stated he would like all citizens to come forth and work on the
charter commission who were interested.
MSP (Ziebarth- Rowley) to adjourn the meeting at 11:50 PM.
Respectfully submitted,
Pamela Case
Recording Secretary
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