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Mounds View City Council
July 24, 1978
1. Roll call of officials
2. Approval of minutes of regular meeting July 10, 1978
3. Citizen comments and requests
CITIZENS: BEFORE SPEAKING, PLEASE GIVE YOUR FULL NAME
AND ADDRESS FOR THE MINUTES
4. Approval of consent a;enda:
Item A. Storm Sewer Advisory Task Force resignations
B. Appointment of building inspector
C. Resolution on commercial development bonds
D. Minor subdivision of 8250 Knollwood Drive
E. June activity reports
F. Bills for payment
G. Licenses for approval
5. Public hearings
(a) Project 1978 -6 .continued)
Silver Lake Road improvements (7:40 PM)
(b) Dailey Knoll's (continued)
Preliminary plat and rezoning (8:10 PM)
(c) Karlen's Addition (continued)
Preliminary plat and rezoning (8:20 PM)
6. Minor subdivision of 2816 Sherwood Road
7. Project 1978 -7 Seal Coating
Bid award
8. Ordinance No. 283 Off Sale Liquor
Friday night closing
9. Storm Sewer Advisory Task Force
Recommendation on pump purchase
10. Land Water Conservation Act (LAWCON)
1978 grant application
Phase I Silver View Community Park development
Edgewood School tennis courts
11. Reports of officials
12. Adjournment
CONSENT AGENDA
July 24, 1978
The consent agenda is a technique designed to expedite handling of
routine and miscellaneous official business of the City Council. The
entire agenda may be adopted by the Council in one motion. The motion
for adoption is non debatable and must receive unanimous approval. 3y
request of any individual Council Member, any item can be removed from
the consent agenda and placed upon the regular agenda for debate.
ITEM A. Accept resignations of Richard Comben, Carl Helmer and Larry
Tell from the Citizens Storm Sewer Advisory Task Force.
ITEM B. Appoint Robert M. Mikulak, 8241 Riverview Terrace, Fridley,
to the position of building inspector at a monthly salary
of $1,150.00 effective July 25, 1978.
ITEM C. Adopt Resolution Nos. 909 and 910 giving concept approvals for
financing a warehouse and office facilities development by John
P. and Bruce L. Thesenga and a warehouse and office facilities
development by Midway Industrial Supply Co., Inc., respectively,
under the provisions of Chapter 474, Minnesota Statutes, entitled
the Minnesota Municipal Industrial Devel:;pment Act. As directed
by the City Council, Attorney Meyers has reviewed the financing
proposed by the applicants and is satisfied that the financial
conditions of the involved businesses are sufficient to meet
the financing terms proposed. Resolution Nos. 909 and 910
authorize the applicants to seek approval of the Minnesota
Commissioner of Securities for the issuance of commercial
development revenue bonds and to proceed with the normal
development review process of the City.
ITEM D. Approve, as recommended by the Planning Commission (7/12/78
minutes), the minor subdivision request of Ellen P. Feige to
create two lots from property located at 8250 Knollwood Drive.
The north lot fronting Knollwood Drive shall be 80' x 210' and
the south lot bordering Knollwood Drive and Arden Avenue shall
be 100' x 210'. A five foot utility easement shall be required
on the rear line of both lots.
ITEM E. Receive the June, 1978, activity reports of the city att_rney,
police, fire and nuisance abatement departments.
ITEM F. Approve the July 24, 1978, bills for payment.
ITEM G. Approve the following licenses:
CARNIVAL new
North Star Amusement kiddie rides at the Mounds View Square
1275 Hewitt Ave. Shopping Center 7/13 7/16/78
St. Paul, MN 55104
Consent Agenda -2- July 24, 1978
ITEM G. (continued)
CONTRACTORS
General new
Star Garage Builders
4509 Minnetonka Blvd.
General renewal
Belair Builders, Inc.
443 8th Ave. N.W.
Capp Homes, Div. of Evans Prod.
3355 Hiawatha Avenue
Galster Construction
5532 Vernon Ave. S.
Hartmann Builders, Inc.
1681 19th St. N.W.
Heating Air Conditioning new
Air Conditioning Assoc. Inc.
689 Pierce Butler Rt.
Heating Air Cond. renewal
All Season Comfort, Inc.
1417 18th St. N.W.
Four Seasons Air Spec.
312 Division
Excavating renewal
Carl Bolander Sonc Co.
2933 Pleasant Ave.
T S Excavating
2044 Chamber
Blacktopping renewal
Blacktop Drivway Co.
1543 Payne Ave.
Tri County Blacktop, Inc.
10548 Hwy. 65 N.E.
Stucco renewal
Joe Nelson Stucco Co., Inc.
1150 98th Lane N.W.
Swimming Pools renewal
Minnesota Package Products
6922 55th St. N.
PROCEEDINGS OF THE CITY COUNCIL
CITY OF MOUNDS VIEW
RAMSEY COUNTY, MINNESOTA
A regular meeting of the Mounds View City Council was called to order by Mayor
Pickar at 7:30 PM on July 24, 1978 at the Mounds View City Hall, 2401 Highway 10,
Mounds View, Minnesota 55112.
Members Present: Also Present:
Mayor Pickar
Councilmember Baumgartner
Councilmember Rowley
Clerk /Administrator Achen
Mayor Pickar stated that Councilmember Hodges was out of town and that Councilmember
Ziebarth had car trouble and would be joining the meeting later.
Duane McCarty asked that the minutes of the July 10, 1978 meetinr, be corrected on
page 5 to read that the Concerned Citizens Group had conducted the survey, rather
than he. in the ninth paragraph.
Councilmember Baumgartner asked that the minutes be corrected on page 13, eighth
paragraph to read 11:55 rather than 12:55.
MSP (Baumgartner Rowley) to approve the minutes of the July 10, 1978 meeting as
corrected. 3 ayes
CITIZENS COMMENTS AND REQUESTS
Rachael Bardwell, 2932 County Road J stated she would like the County to remove truck
traffic from County Road J, and asked why the City of Mounds View does not have a noise
ordinance, rather than just a nuisance ordinance. She explained that a reading had
been taken by the PCA along County Road J, which found the noise level to be above the
accepted 75 decibels. She also stated she would like the speed limit reduced, as she
had requested last year but which the State turned down since they did not see the
need. She stated that she had been told the City would have to request the speed
reduction again before the State would do another study, and that she would be going
on to the County Board if she gets the backing of the Council.
Councilmember Ziebarth joined the meeting at this time.
Mayor Pickar stated that the City had requested the speed limit reduction last year and
would be willing to request it again. Mrs. Bardwell asked that the hours of the study
be specified, for when traffic would be moving and not tied up during rush hour.
MSP (Pickar Rowley) to request the County to conduct a study between the hours of
7 and 10 PM along County Road J. 4 ayes
Mayor Pickar stated he was not sure what the basis would be for eliminating trucks
along County Road J. Councilmember Baumgartner added that the problem is with the
noisy trucks and that they should go back to the PCA and see what enforcement measures
the City should take and have the PCA monitor trucks and tag the violators. He added
that Lhey would also have to tag any cars or motorcycles th were in violation.
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Mrs. Bardwell stated she felt the trucks should not be allowed on J at all and should
be required to go on Highway 10. Mayor Pickar replied that there would be a problem
since the area is not 100% residential and trucks are allowed where there is commercial
property. Mrs. Bardwell replied that she does not want to put up with the noise.
Councilmember Ziebarth recommended going to the County for a solution, and recommended
that the Council endorse a statement to the County. He pointed out, however, that since
the road borders on three counties, there might be problems.
Councilmember Rowley stated that she agreed and recommended sending all information on
to the County and explaining the problem to them but stated she was pessimistic since
the road does border on three counties and does go along commercial property.
MSP Ziebarth- Baumgartner) to put together a letter with the information the Council
has been given and state clearly what they would like in the way of results and pass
it on to the County Commissioner. 4 ayes
Lionel Downer, 8490 Knollwood stated he had had a new home built in the City which was
still ungraded and that he was having problems getting it graded by the builder, Harstad
and Todd. He stated he had made several calls to the City Engineers office and that
someone had come out and recommended he get in tough with the builder to have the
grading done but that the builder has told him he can't do it until he knows what the
City wants. Mr. Downer stated that he again contacted the City and someone came out
and resurveyed the area but he still has not received a grading plan from the City.
Administrator Achen replied that the City does not require grading plans from contractors
for single family homes and that they have had the same problem with that particular
contractor before, and that the City does not have much power to enforce this. He
added that it is expected of the contractor to have enough knowledge and experience to
know what type of grading plan is required and that the City, as a general rule, does
not do grading plans for contractors.
Carl Helmer, 7845 Bona Road recommended that the City start requiring grading plans
from the different contractors. Mayor Pickar replied that he would have to check into
the practicality of it. Councilmember Rowley added that it was a subject worth dis-
cussing with the Inspections Department and Engineering Department.
Mayor Pickar stated that they would run it through the Inspections Department and
Engineering Department for their comments.
Mr. Helmer stated he was unhappy with the City not having a new engineer yet. Mayor
Pickar replied that they have been looking since the day they received notice from
the previous engineer but that it is a time consuming process since they want to ad-
vertise in the engineering journals to get the maximum exposure for the position.
Mr. Helmer asked if they had gone to the State Unemployment Agency. Administrator
Achen replied that for a position of this type, the Unemployment Agency normally does
not have someone qualified. He added that the candidates who are qualified are generally
working already. He also explained that in the past it has taken two to three months
to fill vacancies of this type in the City.
Mrs. Jacob Lotovich, 2217 Hillview stated she was concerned with the bicycle riders
in the City and stated she would like to see a program to educate both children and
adults on bicycle safety, and that she had been told that if enough people were
interested, the Police Department would put on a program.
July 24, 1978 Page 3
Mayor Pickar replied that he believed the Police Department would conduct a program if
enough people were interested, and added that they do go around to the schools in the
City and run a program on bicycle safety. He recommended that a petition of interested
citizens be circulated.
Councilmember Ziebarth stated he has found that children generally start riding bikes
between five and six years old but do not get educated until later on bicycle safety.
He stated that he felt the problem was with the parents who would allow it.
Councilmember Rowley stated she believed the Police Department does have a bicycle
safety program already but that people must attend it to get educated.
Lloyd Scott, 5100 Red Oak Drive stated that neighboring villages conduct dummy schools
for those found in violation of bicycle safety rules.
Councilmember Baumgartner recommended that the Park and Recreation Director be asked
to put together a program on bicycle safety, with a police officer to instruct.
Mayor Pickar added that the issue could be discussed at the next Park and Recreation
meeting.
Administrator Achen stated that the Police Department has provided bicycle safety
programs to each of the elementary schools in the past.
Mayor Pickar recessed the general meeting and opened the first public hearing.
PROJECT 1978 -6 SILVER LAKE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS
Mayor Pickar reported that as directed by Council, Staff solicited the services of the
Ramsey Soil and Water Conservation District but that Staff does not feel they provided
the information that is needed, since they do not investigate soil conditions below a
depth of five feet and their soil map data is based upon studies of areas at least
2.5 acres in size. Consequently, they are not even certain where peat soil exists
in the area, although they suspect such from their field observations. Mayor Pickar
stated that it was Staff's recommendation that the Council employ Twin City Testing
Company to determine where there are soils within 25 feet of the surface substantial
enough to support duplex or single family residential construction, requiring approximately
three borings, with the expected cost to run as high as $800. Mayor Pickar stated also
that the Council at this time knows no more than they did when they first started dis-
cussing the project.
Councilmember Baumgartner asked if any of the property owners had any soil studies
done. There was no response from the property owners present.
Councilmember Rowley stated that the City had gone to Ramsey County because of the
cost factor and that she personally was disappointed in the report from them as it
did not contain the information they had hoped for.
MSP (Rowley Pickar) to postpone the hearing on Project 1978 -6 until 7:50 PM on
August 14, 1978, due to lack of information. 4 ayes
Jerry Foss stated he was working with George Payne who is interested in purchasing
two of the lots on the north end and stated that the City has tabled the development
several times and the property owners would like to know what to do.
Mayor Picker l a that there ,l items i vol and several questions which es
rray�r rtCRar replied that, utcrc are several n..,
still have to be answered.
July 24, 1978 Page 4
0 Mr. Foss stated he was concerned with the lack of action and progress. He added that
a feasibility study had been done on the project and asked if there was anything in
the study that said the project was unsuitable for development. Councilmember
Baumgartner replied that it is not the City's responsibility to make sure people can
develop on their property, due to economic feasibility or whatever. Councilmember
Rowley added that the question of benefit still has to be answered.
Mr. Foss asked if it was possible to run the water and sewer services just to those
who want it now. Councilmember Rowley replied that there would be problems with
connecting the lines. Cpuncilmernber Baumgartner added that the feasibility study
said lines could not be run off of Groveland.
MSP (Ziebarth Rowley) to amend the previous motion and have the City employ Twin
City Testing Company to determine what the soil is like for those four lots.
Administrator Achen stated that the City has received two requests for utilities
at both the north and south ends and that the City is trying to prevent dead -end
water mains. He also pointed out that people who had said they were in favor of
the project earlier had also indicated they might not be if the cost was going to
increase significantly, due to some lots not being benefitted.
Councilmember Baumgartner asked if the cost of the tests by Twin City Testing would
be assessed against the project. Mayor Pickar replied that it was not part of the
motion. Administrator Achen explained that he assumed it would be added to the cost
of the project but if the project did not go through, it would have to be paid by
the general tax payers.
Councilmember Rowley pointed out that no further notice would be sent out on the
continuation of the hearing.
Bill Werner, 2765 Sherwood Road asked what the purpose was for employing Twin City
Testing. Mayor Pickar replied that they would be determining whether or not the
three lots in question were buildable.
3 ayes
1 nay
DAILEY KNOLL'S PRELIMINARY PLAT AND REZONING
MSP (Rowley Ziebarth) to postpone the hearing until 6:10 PM on August 14, 1978. 4 ayes
KARLEN'S ADDITION PRELIMINARY PLAT AND REZONING
Glen Karlen stated that there is no problem with his property being developed, and
that he does have a sewer connection to the property and can bring water down, and
does have a buyer for a home and would like some action taken on the lot split,
variances and rezoning.
MSP (Ziebarth Pickar) to approve the preliminary plat for the Karlen Addition. 4 ayes
Councilmember Baumgartner stated that it should be noted that Lots 1 and 3 are being
rezoned from R -1 to R -2, and a 10' frontage variance on Lot 1 and 5' frontage variance
on Lot 2 are required.
MSP (Rowley Ziebarth) to amend the previous motion and state the reason for the variances
is a sewer easement and sewer line running througn Lot 3, requiring a hardship. 4 ayes
July 24, 1978
Mayor Pickar clo,ed the public hearings and reopened the general meeting.
APPROVAL OF CONSENT AGENDA
MSP (Baumgartner- Ziebarth) to approve the consent agenda as follows:
ITEM A. Accept resignations of Richard Comben, Carl Helmer and Larry
Tell from the Citizens Storm Sewer Advisory Task Force.
ITEM B. Appoint Robert M. Mikulak, 8241 Riverview Terrace, Fridley,
to the position of building inspector at a monthly salary
of $1,150.00 effective July 25, 1978,
ITEM C. Adopt Resolution Nos. 909 and 910 giving concept approvals for
financing a warehouse and office facilities development by John
P. and Bruce L. Thesenga and a warehouse and office facilities
development by Midway Industrial Supply Co., Inc., respectively,
under the provisions of Chapter 474, Minnesota Statutes, entitled
the Minnesota Municipal Industrial Development Act. As directed
by the City Council, Attorney Meyers has reviewed the financing
proposed by the applicants and is satisfied that the financial
conditions of the involved businesses are sufficient to meet
the financing terms proposed. Resolution Nos. 909 and 910
authorize the applicants to seek approval of the Minnesota
Commissioner of Securities for the issuance of commercial
development revenue bonds and to proceed with the normal
development review process of the City.
ITEM D. Approve, as recommended by the Planning Commission (7/12/78
minutes), the minor subdivision request of Ellen P. Feige to
create two lots from property located at 8250 Knollwood Drive.
The north lot fronting Knollwood Drive shall be 80' x 210' and
the south lot bordering Knollwood Drive and Arden Avenue shall
be 100' x 210'. A five foot utility easement shall be required
on the rear line of both lots.
ITEM E. Receive the June, 1978, activity reports of the city attorney,
police, fire and nuisance abatement departments.
ITEM F. Approve the July 24, 1978, bills for payment.
ITEI.1 G. Approve the following licenses:
CARNIVAL new
North Star c cm a n
North ,r.:u..._.__t- kiddie rides at the Mounds View Square
1275 Hewitt Ave. Shopping Center 7/13 7/16/78
St. Paul, MN 55104
Page 5
4 ayes
July 24, 1978 Page 6
CONTRACTORS
General new
Star Garage Builders
4509 Minnetonka Blvd.
General renewal
Belair Builders, Inc.
443 8th Ave. N.W.
Capp Homes, Div. of Evans Prod.
3355 Hiawatha Avenue
Galster Construction
5532 Vernon Ave. S.
Hartmann. Builders, Inc.
1681 19th St. N.W.
Heating Air Conditioning new
Air Conditioning Assoc. Inc.
689 Pierce Butler Rt.
Heating Air Cond. renewal
All Season Comfort, Inc.
1417 18th St. N.W.
Four Seasons Air Spec.
312 Division
Excavating renewal
Carl Bolander Sonc Co.
2933 Pleasant Ave.
T S Excavating
2044 Chamber
Blacktopping renewal
Blacktop Drivway Co.
1543 Payne Ave.
Tri County Blacktop, Inc.
10588 Hwy. 65 N.E.
Stucco renewal
Joe Nelson Stucco Co., Inc.
1150 98th Lane N.W.
Swimming Pools renewal
Minnesota Package Products
6922 55th St. N.
MINOR SUBDIVISION OF 2816 SHERWOOD ROAD
Mr. Kollodge explained that he has a large lot and would like to divide it into two
so his son can build a home on one of the lots,
Councilmember Baumgartner stated that the discussion at the Planning Commission had
centered around the fact that the garage or accessory building was 4'• from the lot
in and is required to be 5'. He added that the ordinance change which had recently
been passed to allow 75' lots had specified that all setback and area requirements
must be met.
Mr. Kollodge stated he would remove the building if he was required to, and that he
would agree to a one year time limit for the garage, and either move it or remove it
at that time.
MSP (Pickar- Ziebarth) to approve the subdi;iicinn for Mr. Kollodge as recommended by
the Planning Commission. 4 ayes
July 24, 1978 Page 7
dik PROJECT 1978 -7 SEAL COATING BID AWARD
Administrator Achen reported that two bids for Project 1978 -7, street seal coating
were received, with Allied Blacktop Company, Inc. bidding $37,620.00 and Bituminous
Roadways, Inc. bidding $44,895.00, and recommended that Council accept the low bid
of Allied Blacktop which is a large and reputable firm in the metropolitan area
and who did the City's 1976 seal coating project. He added that the bid is within
the $40,000 budget allocation.
MSP (Rowley Ziebarth) to accept the bid from Allied Blacktop Company, Inc. for
$37,620.00.
ORDINANCE NO. 283 OFF SALE LIQUOR FRIDAY NIGHT CLOSING
Mayor Pickar reported that the State has authorized liquor stores to stay open until
10 PM on Friday nights and that the Council had previously requested the attorney to
prepare an ordinance to conform to the new hours. Mayor Pickar read the ordinance as
prepared by Attorney Meyers.
MSP (Pickar Rowley) to pass Chapter 100.09, Subdivision 1, Hours of Sale of Intoxi-
cating Liquor, Ordinance #283. 4 ayes
STORM SEWER ADVISORY TASK FORCE RECOMMENDATION ON PUMP PURCHASE
David Notaro stated he would be speaking for Peter Sargent and presented a written
recommendation from Mr. Sargent to buy two centrifugal force pumps. He added that
he personally felt it would be a tremendous thing to have in the City.
Mayor Pickar read that statement received from Mr. Notaro. Councilmember Rowley asked
if they had addressed the question of how to determine who would get the pumps first
and time limits and priorities and so forth. Mr. Notaro replied that they would have
to address that at a later date.
Councilmember Rowley asked if the pumps would require instructions or if a maintenance
person would be required to demonstrate them to each user. Mr. Notaro replied that he
did not believe so.
4 ayes
Councilmember Baumgartner asked where the people using the pumps would be putting the
water. Mr. Notaro replied that he personally would pump the water to Groveland Park.
Administrator Achen stated the Council would have to set guidelines and decide how
much hose to purchase. He added that the hose was very expensive and could cost almost
as much as the pumps the selves.
Councilmember Rowley stated she would be interested in hearing comments from the citizens
who would be paying for the pumps. Mrs. Lotovich stated that she would be in favor of
having the City purchase pumps.
Councilmember Ziebarth stated he felt a time limit of 4 to 6 hours should he set on
the pumps, rather than the three days suggested in Mr. Sargent's recommendation.
Mr. Notaro replied that the Task Force is expected to come up with a recommendation
soon on the whole problem and that the pumps could possibly be used by the maintenance
department then.
July 24, 1978 Page 8
MSP (Ziebarth Rowley) to pass the information onto Staff and have them come up with
some finalized information for the next meeting, including the cost of hose. 4 ayes
LAND AND WATER CONSERVATION ACT 1978 GRANT APPLICATION
Park Director Anderson stated that the grant applications the City would be applying
for are strictly preliminary at this time and that the preliminary application is
just a one page form. He added that the applications will be reviewed and finalists
selected, who will then fill out complete forms. He stated that the maximum each
community can receive is $100,000.
Mayor Pickar asked if the City's share would be incorporated into the 1979 budget.
Park Director Anderson replied that the share for Edgewood would come from the school
district and the share for Silver View Park would either come from the general fund
or the Northcrest or Krause Anderson park dedications, which are expected in 1979.
MSP Rowley- Ziebarth) to submit the preliminary grant applications for Edgewood
Junior High tennis courts and Phase 1 of Silver View Park development.
ADMINISTRATOR ACHEN'S REPORT
Administrator Achen reported that the City received letters from Paster Enterprises
and Penny's Market objecting to the city's farmers market planned by the Park
Department. He added that he has not responded to the letters yet.
Councilmember Ziebarth stated that he did not agree with Paster Enterprises or
Penny's Market conclusions.
Park Director Anderson stated that he is presently in the process of putting guidelines
together for the market and that he would like anyone concerned with the market to
view the one in Maplewood, which is the largest in the State. He added that at the
most they expect 15 to 20 people to set up and sell a small amount of produce, and that
it will not be a large scale operation. He also pointed out that it had been approved
by the Council on a trial basis.
4 ayes
Councilmember Rowley recommended that Mr. Anderson write the replys to Paster Enter-
prises and Penny's Market.
Administrator Achen reported that the City has received a request from the City of
New Brighton for support to reinstate I -335 through Minneapolis into the interstate
system. He added that he was not quite sure of the placement of I -335 but that it
would connect up I -94, 35W and 35E.
Mayor Pickar recommended that since New Brighton has been so supportive of Mounds View
on the airport issue, that Staff gather information and have it ready for the next
agenda meeting.
Administrator Achen reported that the Blaine City Engineer has informed the City they
have given the final inspection of Judicial Ditch #1 and would like Council approval
of completion of the project.
MSP iebarth- Baumgartner) to approve completion of Judicial Ditch #1. 4 ayes
Cour ilmember Baumgartner asked if the City knows for sure if the work was done
sat ,factorily and to the specs. Administrator Achen replied that the Blaine
City Engineer has inspected it and that Engineer Hubbard had inspected it before
he left.
July 24, 1978 Page 9
COUNCILMEMBER ROWLEY'S REPORT
Councilmember Rowley reported that she has a list of names of people to be considered
to work on the home rule charter. She added that she will be giving the list to the
Clerk /Administrator for him to forward on to Judge Hachey.
COUNCILMEMBER ZIEBARTH'S REPORT
Councilmember Ziebarth stated that he would like anyone who is interested in working
on the home rule charter to contact them before July 30.
Councilmember Ziebarth stated there would be a Park and Recreation Department meeting
at 6:30 PM on July 27.
COUNCILMEMBER BAUMGARTNER'S REPORT
Councilmember Baumgartner reported that there would be a Planning Commission meeting
at 7:30 PM on July 26.
MAYOR PICKAR'S REPORT
Mayor Pickar reported that he would not be present at the next two Council meetings.
MSP (Baumgartner Ziebarth) to adjourn the meeting at 10:10 PM.
Respectfully submitted,
Mark Achen
Clerk /Administrator
4 ayes