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Mounds View City Council
November 13, 1978
1. Roll call of officials
2. Approval of minutes of regular meeting October 23, 1978
3. Citizen comments and requests
CITIZENS: BEFORE SPEAKING, PLEASE GIVE YOUR FULL NAME
AND ADDRESS FOR THE MINUTES
4. Approval of consent agenda:
Item A. Third quarter 1978 budget report
B. Offices close 4:30 PM, November 22
C. Bills for payment
D. Licenses
5. Metropolitan Airports Commission grant application
Master plan for Anoka County Airport
6. Public hearings:
(a) Vacation of easement (7:40 PM)
Berwyn Addition
(b) Dailey Knolls (7:50 PM)
Preliminary plat and rezoning
7. White Oak Homeowners Association
Silt removal from ponding area
8. Fill permit 2296 -2288 Pinewood Drive
9. Street light installation policy
10. Acquisition of tax forfeited lands
11. Sewer jet redder purchase
12. Reports of officials
13. Adjournment
The consent agenda is a technique designed to expedite handling of
routine and miscellaneous official business of the City Council. The
entire agenda may be adopted by the Council in one motion. The motion
for adoption is non debatable and must receive unanimous approval. By
request of any individual Council Member, any item can be removed from
the consent agenda and placed upon the regular agenda for debate.
ITEM A. Receive the third quarter 1978 budget report.
ITEM B. Authorize closing of city offices at 4:30 PM, November 22,
1978, the day before Thanksgiving. Offices are normally
open to 6:00 PM on Wednesdays.
ITEM C. Approve the November 13, 1978, bills for payment.
ITEM D. Approve the following licenses:
CONTRACTORS expire 6/30/79
General new
Derry Wood Remodeling
2017 Brookview Drive
Leonard Goodroad
7906 Terrace Road
General renewal
Mr. Siding, Inc.
10800 Xavis St. W.
CONSENT AGENDA
November 13, 1978
Donald A. Michels Sons Const
2787 Dellwood Ave.
Krey Const. Co. Inc.
11 Peninsula Road
Sprinkler Systems new
Northstar Fire Protection Co.
2300 Territorial Road
Concrete Masonry new
Master Concrete Inc.
11018 Bluff Court
Sewer Water Exc new
Northern Plumbing Inc.
6531 Forestview Lane
Charpentier- Madigan Inc.
2777 No. 2nd St.
Sewer Water _F.xr renewal
Industrial Utilities Inc.
2348 Driftwood Lane
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PROCEEDINGS OF THE CITY COUNCIL
CITY OF MOUNDS VIEW
RAMSEY COUNTY, MINNESOTA
A regular meeting of the Mounds View City Council was called to order by Mayor
Pickar at 7:30 PM on Monday, November 13, 1978, at the Mounds View City Hall,
2401 Highway 10, Mounds View, Minnesota 55112.
Members Present: Also Present:
Mayor Pickar
Councilmember Baumgartner
Councilmember Hodges
Councilmember Rowley
Councilmember Ziebarth
Clerk- Administrator Achen
Attorney Meyers
MSP (Rowley- Hodges) tc approve the minutes of the regular meeting of October 23,
1978 as corrected.
Councilmember Baumgartner stated he was abstaining from the vote as he had been out
of town for th t meeting.
Councilmember Hodges asked that the word "cards" on page 2, paragraph 8 be corrected
to read "cars
Councilmember Ziebarth stated that in his report at the October 23 meeting he had
indicated there would be a Park and Rec meeting on October 26 at 6:30 PM but that
the meeting had been changed to November 2.
Mayor Pickar stated that on November 9 the Council had met to canvas the votes and
certify the election. He stated he would like to direct the City Administrator to
include the two new elected officials in the agenda packet distribution.
MSP Pickar- Hodges) to accept the minutes of the special meeting on November 9,
1978.
4 ayes
1 abstain
5 ayes
CITIZENS COMMENTS AND REQUESTS
Dennis Flanigan, 8285 Pleasant View stated that he was the Cub Scout director for
Pack #167 and stated that the troop would like to sell Christmas bows door to door
and asked what permission would be required.
Mayor Pickar replied that the usual procedure for organizations such as the Cub
Scouts is to put the request in writing and the City will then waive the fee.
MSP (Pickar Rowley) to approve Scout Pack #167 to sell Christmas bows after filing
a proper application. The fee will be waived. 5 ayes
APPROVAL OF CONSENT AGENDA
MSP (Ziebarth- Hodges) to approve the consent agenda as follows: 5 ayes
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ITEM A. Receive the third quarter 1978 budget report.
ITEM B. Authorize closing of city offices at 4:30 PM, November 22, 1978, the
day before Thanksgiving. Offices are normally open to 6:00 PM on
Wednesdays.
ITEM C. Approve the November 13, 1978, bills for payment.
ITEM D. Approve the following licenses:
CONTRACTORS expire 6/30/78
General new
Derry Wood Remodeling
2017 Brookview Drive
Leonard Goodroad
7906 Terrace Road
General renewal
Mr. Siding, Inc.
10800 Xavis St. W.
Donald A. Michels Sons Const.
2787 Dellwood Avenue
Krey Const. Co. Inc.
11 Peninsula Road
Sprinkler Systems new
Northstar Fire Protection Co.
2300 Territorial Road
Concrete and Masonry new
Master Concrete Inc.
11018 Bluff Court
Sewer Water Exc new
Northern Plumbing Inc.
6531 Forestview Lane
Charpentier- Madigan Inc.
2777 N. 2nd Street
Sewer and Water Exc renewal
Industrial Utilities Inc.
2348 Driftwood Lane
METROPOLITAN AIRPORTS COMMISSION GRANT APPLICATION! MASTER PLAN FOR ANOKA COUNTY
AIRPORT
Administrator Achen reported that the Transportation Subcommittee of the Metropoli-
tan Council's Physical Development Committee had met on November 9 regarding MAC's
application for federal funds. He stated that Mounds View has sent a letter to MAC
with comments on the application and read that letter.
MSP (Rowley Ziebarth) to direct the Clerk Administrator to prepare Resolution #943,
following the same draft as the letter dated November 8, 1979 to John Rutford
regarding the Anoka County Airport Master Plan Study by MAC, with the resolution
containing the following, that the City Council's primary concern is that the
Master Plan very specifically address Alternate #5, which is the do- nothing
alternate for the airport, indicating that the do- nothing alternate classify the
airport back to it's minor status, that adequate advance notice and information be
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provided to aglow effective community involvement, with 30 days notice for
public meetings and 15 days notice for informational meetings, and that the
issue of surface transportation be addressed for each of the horizon years
1985, 1990 and 2000, with the concern being that it relate to the plan for
New Trunk Highway 10 and the new accesses, and that facility requirements should
specifically address the need for on -site and off -site fire, rescue and law
enforcement service, with that being important to the neighboring taxpayers.
Councilmember Rowley noted that Mounds View has received a copy of the petition
from the Leagip^ of Women Voters regarding the application.
Councilmember Baumgartner asked that a copy also be sent to the State Legislative
representative. Councilmember Rowley stated that she would like to go through the
file and pull out information to send to the new representatives.
Mayor Pickar recessed the general meeting and opened the first public hearing at 7:55 PM.
VACATION OF EASEMENT BERWYN ADDITION
Administrator Achen reported that the plat had been approved some time ago but that
the owner has had some problems closing on the property because of ambiguous easements.
Administrator Achen explained that due to the description, it was possible to locate
the easement area either fronting lots 1 and 2 of the Berwyn Addition or along the
east boundary of the Edgewood School property. He added that because of the descrip-
tion and to whom the easement is deeded from and to, it would appear that the easement
is along lots 1 and 2. The described easement to be vacated is located entirely within
the Edgewood Drive roadway easement. Administrator Achen stated that the City does
have documented easements for Edgewood Drive and the removal of this easement would not
violate any of the existing easements.
Mayor Pickar stated that the memo from the Building and Zoning Official goes into
detail about how the situation occurred.
Attorney Meyers pointed out that the easement has no practical use.
MSP (Ziebarth- Hodges) to adopt Resolution #944, vacating the highway easement dated
April 8, 1958 for the Berwyn Addition.
A rollcall vote was taken:
Councilmember Rowley aye
Councilmember Ziebarth aye
Councilmember Hodges aye
Councilmember Baumgartner aye
Mayor Pickar aye
At 8 :05 PM Mayor Pickar closed the public hearing for the vacation of easements
and opened the next public hearing.
5 ayes
5 ayes
November 13, 1978
DAILEY KNOLLS PRELIMINARY PLAT AND REZONING
Administrator Achen reported that the original application was filed on October 12,
1977. He explained that the proposed plat and rezoning is for the property fronting
on Silver Lake Road north of Bronson Drive. The Council originally considered the
request and indicated they had no major problems with the concept but there were
problems with sewer and water. A feasibility study was prepared for the extension
of sewer and water services and the Council decided not to proceed with that due to
the high assessment cost. The Council then indicated to the property owners that
if they were still interested, they should submit their proposals to the Council.
Administrator Achen stated that the developer, Mr. Thorson, has now come back to the
City with a proposal for putting in the improvements himself, and would have to meet
the specs set by the City. He is propo :ing to provide the services and easements
necessary for installation and maintenance, and would include an 8" water main and
hydrant on Silver Lake Road. Administrator Achen stated that the Council would be
addressing itself to approval of the plat and rezoning. He added that tho final
plat would include the development agreement.
Councilmember Rowley asked if the fire hydrant on Silver Lake Road would meet the
required standards for fire protection. Administrator Achen replied that the Fire
Department has reviewed it and approved it, and that the developer is providing a
hydrant mid block.
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Councilmember Rowley asked if the developer would be paying all the costs of the
improvements. Administrator Achen replied that he would since it was not going to
be a public improvement nroject.
Bill Doty, 3049 Bronson askeL if the report on the soil and building showed it to be
suitable. Administrator Achen replied that the Council received the report and
reviewed it last June or July, from Twin city Testing, who had evaluated the soil.
He stated that peat had been discovered as deep as 40' and that the cost to develop
the land was found to be extremely high. That was when the other property owners
decided they did not want to proceed with the development any further at that time.
Mr. Doty asked if all the lots had had soil tests. Administrator Achen replied that
they had not but they would be required at the time the building permit is taken out.
Margaret Kramer, 7663 Groveland stated she owned property at the other end of the road
and still wanted to develop it and asked if there would be any problem with develcpment
going in at both ends of the road and tying the system together. Administrator Achen
replied that the Dailey Knolls development would reduce the likelihood of services being
installed on the frontage road. He added that Mrs. Kramer could have a professional
engineer submit plans for her proposed project.
Councilmember Baumgartner stated that the request for the preliminary plat and rezoning
for Dailey Knolls had originally come before the Planning Commission on November 11,
1977 and that the developer at that time proposed putting in three duplex lots, with
88' frontages, and that the Planning Commission had denied it at the time because of
the substandard frontages. He added that since then services have been put in on
Silver Lake Road and the developer nas come back and said he was going to purchase 32'
from the neighboring property. Councilmember Baumgartner pointed out that the plat
in front of the Council still showed substandard lots and recommended that it go back
before the Planning Commission as they did not approve the original request and the
request has since been changed. He added that the Planning Commission would have to
grant a variance for the substandard frontages.
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Mr. Thorson stated that he believed the Council had previously said they would approve
the plat if he added on the 32', which would make the lots less than 1' short of the
required frontage. He pointed out that the lots are extremely deep, and square footage
wise were almost double of what was required. He added that he could take the extra
footage from the lot he had bought in order to make three 100' lots.
Councilmember Baumgartner replied that he did not recall the Council ever saying they
would definitely approve the plat with the 32' added on.
Administrator Achen stated that the best thing to do would be go back to the Planning
Commission with a redrawing of the preliminary plat since there is an obvious question
of what will happen with the additional lot.
Attorney Meyers asked if the title to the property had been transferred yet. Mr. Thorson
replied that it hadn't as he was waiting for Council approval before finalizing the
purchase of the additional lot.
Attorney Meyers asked if the additional 32' was included in the notice of the rezoning
hearing. Administrator Achen replied that it most likely had not.
Councilmember Rowley stated she felt the Planning Commission should address the request
again before the Council takes any action.
MSP (Pickar Ziebarth) to direct Dailey Knolls, Mr. Thorson, back to the Planning
Commission and direct that the Clerk- Administrator prepare a list for the Planning
Commission of the points they should take into consideration. 5 ayes
Councilmember Baumgartner asked if Mr. Gillman should be notified of that action.
Attorney Meyers replied that he would have to sign the application for the rezoning.
Mayor Pickar closed the public hearing and reopened the regular meeting.
WHITE OAK HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION SILT REMOVAL FROM PONDING AREA
Mayor Pickar reported that the White Oak Homeowners Association has initiated a request
to the Council to use Random Park as a temporary holding area for the silt from their
ponding area. He added that Staff and the Park Commission have reviewed the request
and recommend that the Silver View Park site would work out better than Random Park.
Tom Foster, president of the White Oak Homeowners Association, stated that he was still
in the process of having the DNR and Rice Creek Watershed District review the request
and that they have run into a problem with the Watershed District as the first meeting
they could consider the request is on December 2i, and that they had not anticipated
such a lengthy delay. He added that he was also concerned with the ice setting in on
the lake. Mr. Foster stated he had spoken to Roto Rooter, who would be doing the work
and that they would prefer waiting until Spring to do it, and that they had promised
this project would be first on their list for Spring.
Mayor Pickar asked if the delay until Spring would create any problems for the Homeowners
Association. Mr. Foster replied that it would not.
Councilmember Ziebarth stated that the primary concern of the Park Commission was to
accomodate the Homeowners Association, as Fall is a better time for this type of work
as it is dry. He added that they now have a suitable site but have a timing problem
with all the agencies involved.
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Councilmember Rowley stated that as long as the project was not going to be done this
Fall, the water table should be checked in the Spring before final approval is given.
She added that the Homeowners Association should go ahead and get approval from all
the agencies involved and then come back in the Spring for final approval from the City.
Councilmember Ziebarth asked if permission had been received from all the affected
property owners. Mr. Foster replied that he was still working on that.
Councilmember Ziebarth recommended that Staff's recommendations be added to the agreement,
such a feasibility report with the amount of time, the volume of material and permission
from the affected property owners.
Councilmember Rowley asked if Staff saw any problem with the work waiting until Spring.
Park Director Anderson replied that only problem he could see was if the project was
delayed until April or May, which would delay the planned work on Silver View Park.
He added though, that the Homeowners Association wanted the work done as quickly as
possible also.
Councilmember Baumgartner asked if ore of the federal agencies would actually be going
out and examining the sludge for pollutants and so forth. He added that he was
concerned there might be a high concentration of pollutants in the lake from chemicals
that had washed down off the lawns.
Mr. Foster replied that there is a constant flow of water out of the lake. Administrator
Achen added that the City can request the agencies do that when they consider the request.
Councilmember Ziebarth stated that as long as it had been agreed to wait until Spring
to do the work, he would like to discuss the project further in an agenda session to
work out the details.
MSP Pickar- Ziebarth) to postpone action on the request until the second meeting in
November. 5 ayes
FILL PERMIT 2296 -2288 PINEWOOD DRIVE
Mayor Pickar reported that the two properties involved, 2296 and 2288 Pinewood Drive,
have extremely low back yards and that the owners have requested approval to fill
their rear lots to prevent water f om going in their walkout basements when the storm
sewer backs up.
Larry Aamot, 2296 Pinewood Drive, stated he and his neighbor had had an engineer come
out and study the problem, and that he had determined they had a surface water problem.
He stated they would like to fill their back yards to prevent the water from coning in
their homes when the storm sewer backs up. He added that they both have walkouts, which
would be bricked up, and that based upon Staff's recommendation, they would be going
with a 2% slope.
Councilmember Baumgartner stated that the request had been discussed and approved by
the Planning Commission. He added that the rear yards will still be holding areas.
MSP (Hodges Ziebarth) to accept the Planning Commission's recommendation to approve
the fill plan as presented, maintaining a slope from the homes to the culvert,
and to waive the $50 Conditional Use Permit fee. 5 ayes
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STREET LIGHT INSTALLATION POLICY
Mayor Pickar reported that Staff had conducted a study of the street lighting in the
City and drawn up a map showing the existing lighting and areas where lights may be
requested in the future, along with a proposed policy for street lighting in resi-
dential areas.
Councilmember Baumgartner stated he thought Staff had done an outstanding job in pre-
paring the backup information for the Planning Commission and Council and in preparing
the proposed policy. Councilmember Baumgartner read the proposed street lighting policy.
Administrator Achen reported that the cost of the present street lighting represents
over one -half of a mil of the property taxes and that the cost will continue to go up.
Councilmember Hodges stated he was concerned with energy consumption and that he felt
400' spacing may be too close for the lights. Councilmember Rowley pointed out that
lights would not necessarily be going in every 400' as the lights would have to be
petitioned for and they would have to meet the criteria established in the policy.
Councilmember Baumgartner stated that the Planning Commission had discussed adding an
item to the policy, specifying how many lights would be budgeted for in one year, but
acknowledged there would be a problem when one extra was requested.
Councilmember Ziebarth stated that he could foresee at some time in the future not being
able to afford any more lights. He added that he would like to leave the issue open
until the next meeting to allow time for citizen input.
MSP (Ziebarth- Hodges) to table the item until the next Council meeting. 5 ayes
ACQUISITION OF TAX FORFEITED LANDS
Mayor Pickar reported that five tax forfeited land parcels are available and the Council
must determine whether they should be put up for public sale or reserved for public use.
He added that four of the parcels comprise the Random Perk site on the northeast corner
of Long Lake Road and Ridge Lane and presumably should be reserved for public use. The
fifth parcel is an unbuildable lot on the west end of Oakewood Drive near St. Michael
Street and Staff has recommended St also be reserved for public use.
Administrator Achen pointed out on the map where the lots were located.
MSP (Baumgartner Ziebarth) to adopt Resolution #945, declaring Random's First Addition,
Lots 5 and 8, Block 1 and Dailey's Hillview Addition, Lot 1, Block 1, non conservation
and authorize their acquisition by the City. 5 ayes
SEWER JET RODDER PURCHASE
Administrator Achen presented a report from the Finance Director and Public Works Super-
visor regarding the opening of bids on November 9 for the sewer jet rodder. Administrator
Achen reported that all bids met the City specs except for the alternate bid, and that
Staff has recommended the aiternate bid be rejected because it does not meet the specs.
He added that the low bid was received from Itasca Equipment Company for $75,513.
Lonnie Kolin of Itasca Equipment Company stated that they had promised delivery for
April of 1979 and could possibly deliver earlier.
November 13, 1978
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MSP (Baumgartner Ziebarth) to accept the bid for a jet rodder without trade from
Itasca Equipment Company of $75,513 plus the purchase of a water recirculating system
for $500 and hose winding guide for $270, for a total of $76,283. The alternate low
bid of Wisota Sales was not accepted because it did not satisfy the requirements of
the specification. The report to the Clerk- Administrator from the Finance Director
and Public Works Supervisor, dated November 13, 1978 regarding the bids for the
sewer jet rodder will be made part of the minutes. 5 ayes
ADMINISTRATOR ACHEN'S REPORT
Administrator Achen reported that the City has received the drainage study report
from Comstock and Davis on Ardan Avenue and anticipate receiving Short, Elliott and
Hendricksons report on Woodcrest by December 4. A future work session will be set
up to go over the two reports probably sometime in January.
ATTORNEY MEYERS' REPORT
Attorney Meyers reported that the lawsuit involving City Hall construction is currently
scheduled for January and that he had just heard from one of the attorneys involved,
who offered a $25,000 settlement to dispose of the case. He added that he has written
a report discussing the City's position in the case and that he will be forwarding
copies onto the Council.
COUNCILMEMBER ROWLEY'S REPORT
Councilmember Rowley had no report.
COUNCILMEMBER ZIEBARTH'S REPORT
Councilmember Ziebarth reported that he had requested information at the last meeting
from the Police Chief regarding the number of calls to the Mermaid Lounge and Bowling
Alley, and that he had received a reply from the Chief, which indicated that the
increase in time spent at the Mermaid reflects enforcement of the rew loitering ordi
nance. He added that the Chief had indicated it had not created any major problems
but had resulted in two arrests, and that the bowling alley is running smoothly.
Attorney Meyers stated that the new ordinance is an attempt to clear people out of the
parking lots after closing, and that the court has already found one person guilty of
violating the ordinance.
COUNCILMEMBER HODGES' REPORT
Councilmember Hodges stated that he had attended the League of Minnesota Cities meeting
and found it very interesting and informative. He added that he had brochures available
if anyone would like to look at them.
COUNCILMEMBER BAUMGARTNER'S REPORT
Councilmember Baumgartner had no report.
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MAYOR PICKAR'S REPORT
Mayor Pickar reported there were two meetings coming up, the 4th Annual Planning and
Zoning conference on December 7 and 8, and the Annual Minnesota Association of Mayors
on November 17 and 18.
MSP (Pickar- Ziebar'h) to authorize the expenditure of City funds for Council Members
elect to attend the 4th Annual Planning and Zoning conference and the Annual Minnesota
Association of Mayors conference. 5 ayes
MSP (Baumgartner Ziebarth) to adjourn the meeting at 9:55 PM. 5 ayes
Respectfully submitted,
Ma'hk Achen
Clerk- Administrator