HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes - 1979/05/14A regular meeting of the Mounds View City Council was called to order by
Mayor McCarty at 7:30 p.m. on May 14, 1979, at the Mounds View City Hall,
2401 Highway 10, Mounds View, MN 55112.
MEMBERS PRESENT: ALSO PRESENT:
Mayor McCarty
Councilmember Forslund
Councilmember Hodges
Councilmember Rowley
Councilmember Ziebarth
PROCEEDINGS OF THE CITY COUNCIL
CITY OF MOUNDS VIEW
RAMSEY COUNTRY, MINNESOTA
Acting Clerk- Administrator Anderson
Attorney Meyers
MSP (McCarty /Ziebarth) to approve the April 23, 1979, minutes as corrected.
CITIZEN COMMENTS AND REQUESTS
Mr. Pajak, 8420 Red Oak Drive, asked the Council to reconsider his request for
subdivision and to move the lot line so the garage would not infringe on the
easement.
5 ayes
Mayor McCarty indicated that when the Council dealt with the Pajak subdivision,
he was missing some information and was willing to reconsider the matter. He
went on to state that, by putting the rear lot line in conformity to code, it
would be aligned through the middle of a neighbor's house. Granting an equal lot
would put unnecessary burden on Mr. Pajak.
M (McCarty) to amend the motion of April 23, 1979, that the square footage of
the utility building he 2% of the total square footage of the yard.
motion fails for lack of a second
Mayor McCarty stated his feeling that a larger lot should be able to entertain a
larger utility building.
Councilmember Ziebarth indicated the code does not say 2 He further cautioned
that before the Council acts on this matter and adopts this type of idea hastily,
it should change the code first. An action of this type might bring to light
other problems of greater concern than Mr. Pajak is indicating. A problem may
arise in the future when Mr. Pajak wants to build a second garage on the property.
Councilmember Hodges suggested the matter be directed back to the Planning Commission.
Councilmember Rowley stated that if this matter is sent back to the Planning
Commission, they should be provided notes from previous actions dating back
approximately 18 months as to the Council's reasoning at that time. She further
stated her agreement with Mr. Ziebarth and suggested perhaps the 2% figure should
be 2% of the maximum lot size.
Mr. Pajak pointed out that citizens were building huge garages because they can't
have auxiliary buildings. Councilmember Rowley explained that garage sizes had
increased because people needed the area for storage.
May 14, 1979
Councilmember Ziebarth suggested the Planning Commission should look at the code
to see if it needs changing. If Mr. Pajak's problem is solved by that change,
there would be no need for Council to address his problem.
When asked by Mayor McCarty when he planned to begin building, Mr. Pajak replied
he had planned to begin in a couple of weeks.
MSP (Forslund /Hodges) to rescind the motion of April 23, 1979, in relation to
Mr. Pajak's property.
MSP (Forslund /Hodges) to grant Mr. Pajak a subdivision dividing the property on
the west half fronting Fairchild Avenue 273 lineal feet, and on the east half
fronting Red Oak Drive 255 lineal feet. The legal description is north 101.5 feet
of south 2632.5 feet of west 528 feet of Section 6, 3023.
3 ayes,
2 nays
MS (McCarty /Forslund) to amend the previous motion to remove the chicken coop.
The separate shed should also be removed. Any action on the shed size requirement
should be tabled until Planning Commission returns their recommendation.
Councilmember Ziebarth indicated the size of the subdivision granted would give
Mr. Pajak the right to develop the property in regard to house, garage and over-
sized shed. There really is no need for changing the code.
Mayor McCarty indicated Mr. Pajak would need a variance for building another
garage on the property.
Attorney Meyers indicated it would be best to subdivide the lot and later address
the buildings.
Mayor McCarty /Councilmember Forslund withdrew the proposed amendment.
Mrs. Pajak questioned why the concern with the extra shed as it is being used as
the children's playhouse.
Mr. Pajak indicated he would grant the 5 -foot easement for both properties and
will eliminate the chicken coop attached to the main 277 square foot building.
Jerry Linke, 2219 Knoll Drive, questioned whether the extra shed would be used
after the children stop using it as a playhouse.
Councilmember Rowley explained the reason she voted nay was she didn't see any
new evidence that hadn't been presented before.
Councilmember Ziebarth stated he was concerned because Mr. Pajak was still not
allowed to build until the code is looked at and that won't speed up his building.
Mr. Loeding, 5046 Longview Drive, read from the BSEH Report, page 3 -28, regarding
future drainage requirements.
Edward Smith, 5149 Rainbow Lane, stated the Council Chambers needed speakers
because some people cannot hear the proceedings clearly. Mayor McCarty promised
to bring the problem up at the next agenda session.
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3 ayes,
2 nays
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Mr. Pajak, 8420 Red Oak Drive, stated he would like to see an ordinance restricting
residents to store only one cord of wood that would be visible. Mayor McCarty
informed Mr. Pajak it was impossible to "police" the City for matters such as this.
He advised Mr. Pajak to take the matter to Staff as it didn't require Council action.
Richard Charbonneau, 95 Wildwood Road, asked what the Council had in mind for
future drainage requirements. He bought his property with the intention of having
it platted and sold and was advised to delay because of drainage.
Mayor McCarty inquired whether Mr. Charbonneau had applied through the Building
and Zoning to take the proper steps. Mr. Charbonneau replied that he had not but
couldn't see spending $3,000 only to be told to hold off until the City determines
the requirements.
Mayor McCarty acknowledged the area has water problems and is referred to in an
engineering report as a possible holding pond. However, the Mayor indicated he
couldn't answer when the decision will be made. Its in its infancy and will take
time. He suggested Mr. Charbonneau check back with the City in sixty (60) days;
there may be something established by then.
APPROVAL OF CONSENT AGENDA
Councilmember Rowley asked that Item D be removed from the agenda.
MSP (McCarty /Ziebarth) to accept the Consent Agenda as follows.
ITEM A. Approve the City seal coating specifications for 1975 and set
the bid opening date for June 12, 1979, at 10:00 a.m.
ITEM B. Adopt Resolution #981 requesting the Metropolitan Council H.R.A.
to apply for Rehabilitation Grant Funds for the City of Mounds View.
ITEM C. Adopt Resolution #982 requesting the City of Spring Lake Park
to control storm drainage runoff towards the City of Mounds View
to protect the existing Mounds View single family dwellings
from flooding.
ITEM E. Approve the May 14, 1979, bills for payment:
Expenditures: $113,154.03; Payroll: $3,491.05
ITEM F. Approve the following licenses:
Neil Heating Air Conditioning new
Groth Sewer Water new
Irrigation Specialists new lawn sprinkling systems
Dalberg Builders, Inc. renewal
Waterproofing By Experts, Inc. new basement waterproofing
Gopher State Remodeling new
ITEM G. Receive the March, 1979, Activity Reports from the Parks,
Recreation, Forestry and Building Zoning Departments
ITEM H. Reschedule the May 28, 1979, Council Meeting to Tuesday,
May 29, 1979, because of the Memorial Day Holiday
5 ayes
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MSP (Rowley /Hodges) to approve the temporary installation of an advertisement
sign for the Mounds View Development Company #1 at the intersection of
Pleasant View Drive Highway 10 fora one -year period commencing June 1, 1979.
5 ayes
STORM DRAINAGE RESOLUTION #983
Attorney Meyers explained there had been a meeting on this matter prior to the
regular Council meeting. Resolution #983 was read to those present.
MSP (McCarty /Hodges) to adopt the Resolution #983.
A rollcall vote was taken: Councilmember Hodges aye
Councilmember Forslund aye
Councilmember Rowley aye
Councilmember Ziebarth aye
Mayor McCarty aye 5 ayes
Councilmember Ziebarth wished to add that the City should follow up the resolution
with an appropriate ordinance within approximately thirty (30) days. Mayor McCarty
indicated it would be placed on the next agenda.
MINOR SUBDIVISION GENE TOMAS 5039 BONA ROAD
Neither Mr. Tomas nor a representative was present at the Council meeting.
MSP (McCarty /Forslund) to table the request for minor subdivision by Mr. Gene Tomas,
5030 Bona Road.
5 ayes
DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL GEORGE HALVORSON 2908 HIGHWAY 10 TWO 24 -UNIT APT. BLDGS.
Mr. Halvorson was represented by Mr. Cal Lundquist of Lundquist Assoc., and
Mr. Thomas Steffens, 3250 W. 55th St., Edina, Steffens Douglas, Attorneys at Law.
Mr. Lundquist stated his understanding was the Planning Commission objection was
the development proposal didn't meet the Comprehensive Plan designation for that
area. He believes the project meets all requirements for the R -4 Zone. All
services are reachable from the property. The surrounding land provides a buffer.
He went on to state the construction would take place over a one -year period.
They would plan recreation facilities on top of the buildings. There is no planned
basement and no units below grade. The majority would be two bedroom units. The
building would cover 30 percent of the property, driveways 24 percent, and green
area 40 to 45 percent.
Councilmember Rowley pointed out that part of the adjoining area to the west is
Spring Lake Park and to the south is Oakwood residential area.
Jerry Linke, 2219 Knoll Drive, inquired whether Mr. Lundquist had talked to the
State about the accessibility to Highway 10. Mr. Lundquist replied he had and
there was no objection.
Councilmember Hodges inquired whether the 25 -foot easement would be a roadway.
Mr. Lundquist indicated there was only half the 25 -foot easement allowed because
the previous owner had objected. Mr. Lundquist has no objection to making a
25 -foot easement on his property.
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Roger Baumgartner called the Council's attention to consider the Comprehensive Plan
calling for low density in the area. He also pointed out the possibility of
increased traffic treated by the development. Mr. Lundquist replied the density
would be no greater than other properties in the area. Mayor McCarty then asked
Mr. Lundquist if he felt he could build 48 homes on the property as there are 48
apartment units. Mr. Lundquist replied rio.
Councilmember Forslund asked Mr. Lundquist to address himself to the increased
traffic, as well as the drainage required. Mr. Lundquist replied the Planning
Commission had no objection to the drainage required. Councilmember Forslund
stated there will be drainage and it should be addressed since it would affect the
surrounding area.
When asked by Mayor McCarty if they had a drainage plan, Mr. Lundquist answered
they did and it hac hewn submitted to the City. He indicated the land slopes
toward the lake and runoff could be directed to the catch basin.
Mayor McCarty indicated that, according to the new Resolution #983, there should
be no more runoff after development than before. He suggested the developer will
have to have some means to retain on site.
Councilmember Hodges indicated it would be foolish to retain when the facility
pipes are already there.
Councilmember Ziebarth pointed out a potential problem with the number of outdoor
parking spaces. He indicated other apartment buildings have had a problem with
residents not wanting to park indoors in the summer.
With a limited number of outdoor spaces, it may result in parking in the streets,
etc. Councilmember Ziebarth questioned if this could be rectified. Mr. Lundquist
indicated they could provide outdoor spaces by changing the design of the garage
to provide outdoor spaces that would be roofed. Another possibility would be to
drcp the fee for indoor spaces in summer.
Councilmember Ziebarth stated he did not believe the second alternative would be
a viable solution and suggested the developer address Lhe problem n more detail.
Mr. Lundquist indicated Councilmember Ziebarth's point was well taken and will
provide more parking outdoors.
Councilmember Rowley questioned whether they had written permission to cut for
driveway access. Mr. Lundquist indicated they would use existing ingress and
egress roads. There was no objection, but could obtain written approval if
necessary.
Roger Baumgartner questioned if the development planned to control drainage by
retaining on site, and given this requirement, the area wouldn't allow for more
than one building. Mr. Lundquist replied they can meet requirements and still
provide holding ponds. However, if the storm sewer can be used, it would be
preferrable, and in the City's best interest.
Mr. Thomas Steffens, developer's attorney, indicated the key point is to determine
whether the development is compatible. The developer should not be excluded from
services that other residents are entitled to.
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Councilmember Rowley questioned the kind of buffer available. Mr. Lundquist
indicated the 80 feet between buildings would be grass area. The buildings would
not be taller than other buildings in the area and would conform to the character
of the neighborhood. He pointed out that landscaping would provide a buffer also.
MSP (McCarty /Forslund) to table the request so applicant can provide information
to the Staff and Council regarding parking, residential zoning, and provide a letter
from the Fire Department regarding egress /ingress access. Drainage problems
should also be addressed and the developer should provide the City with an opinion
for the Fire Department as to the safety measures cognizant to the development.
5 ayes
Mr. Lundquist requested he be placed on the next Council agenda and was directed
to contact Acting Administrator Anderson.
DAILEY KNOLLS- -LOT SUBDIVISION
MSP (McCarty /Hodges) that the City Council approve the deed that corresponds with
the prelimina^y plat for Lot 4 already approved by the Council for the Knolls
major subdivision. 5 ayes
PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS SEWER WATER INSTALLATION 7500 -7600 SILVER LAKE ROAD
MSP (McCarty /Hodges) that Council requests Howard Thorson, developer, to delay
sewer and water construction for Dailey Knolls Addition, and a hearing date for
sewer and water for 7500 -7600 Silver Lake Road be set as soon as lawfully possible.
A rollcall vote was taken: Councilmember Hodges aye
Councilmember Forslund aye
Councilmember Rowley aye
Councilmember Ziebarth aye
Mayor McCarty aye
5 ayes
Mrs. Kremer, 7663 Groveland Road, questioned tha area Affected. Mayor McCarty
indicated it covered from north of Bronson to County Road I.
Glen Karlen indicated that, at the time of the feasibility study, it extended
north of County Road I. He requested this area be included at this time.
Acting Administrator Anderson suggested the possibility of bringing back the in -house
feasibility report 1978 -6 whereby utilities were extended from Bronson to County
Road I, plus four adjacent lots north, and then add water only across Silver Lake
Road for Realty Man Properties. This study was completed June 12, 1978, and showed
a cost estimate of $87,930. He suggested two options: Either order a feasibility
study to get cost estimates again, or use 1978 -6 and see if the 12 percent
increase bears out. The only thing that wasn't covered by 1978 -6 was providing
services across Silver Lake Road.
Councilmember Forslund raised the question whether Ramsey County would allow
crossing Silver Lake Road. Councilmember Rowley stated there should be no problem
with a single crossing, but it should be confirmed.
Councilmember Ziebarth asked that the minutes reflect the City has reviewed a
petition from owners of three properties that apparently do not represent 35 percent
of the frontage. Therefore, this project will have to proceed as a Council
initiated project.
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MSP (McCarty /Hodges) that a hearing be held at 7:40 p.m., May 29, 1979, for
Project 1979 -3 and order a feasibility report for the hearing to be done by
Short Elliott- Hendrickson.
REPAIR ELEVATED WATER TANK #1
Public Works Superintendent Decheine described the dent in elevated water tank #1
and the resulting rust. He stated the insurance company would not cover the cost
of repair. H A Water Tank Specialists, Inc. have been contracted to sandblast
and paint the tuwer and it might be cheaper to have the dent repaired at the same time.
MSP (McCarty /Forslund) to issue Change Order #1 to authorize elevated water tank #1
be fixed while the H A Water Tank Specialists are in town. It will be designated
to be paid from the Water Utilities Fund.
5 ayes
Councilmember Forslund questioned whether a bond would be required. Public Works
Superintendent Decheine indicated it was bonded already.
Mayor McCarty questioned whether the $2,375 fee was a fixed figure. Attorney Meyers
reviewed the proposed contract and stated it appeared to be a fixed figure.
Acting Administrator Anderson indicated H A Water Tank Specialists would withdraw
their bid if they hadn't heard from the City before they started sandblasting the
tower.
Public Works Superintendent Decheine felt the dent was harmless, but also indicated
there might be some unforeseen damage that could occur in the suture if the dent
went unfixed.
NEW BRIGHTON COMPREHENSIVE PLAN REVIEW
Acting Administrator Anderson summarized the comments to this report by the
Planning Commission. They made reference to the lack of an airport policy,
elimination of a commercial spot south of Irondale, widening Highway 10, a
regional service center by the Super Value, and keeping Silver Lake Road the same.
Some discussion took place regarding the possibility of extending Mustang Road
south to meet the New Brighton border, but no positive conclusions resulted.
Mayor McCarty directed Staff to formulate a letter to the New Brighton City Council
indicating we had reviewed their Comprehensive Plan and address the lack of an
airport policy.
GALE ADDITION
Acting Administrator Anderson indicated the Planning Commission had approved the
plat for this property on 2/27/78 and it was approved by the Council on 6/14/78.
Mr. Chuck Buzzell was upset because of the delay caused by lack of drainage
requirements and was impatient at having to wait before placement on the Council
agenda.
Mayor McCarty informed Mr. Buzzell the City was not operating in accordance with
Resolution #983, not #892. He further instructed him to take the matter to an
engineer and bring the drainage proposal back to the City.
5 ayes
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Some discussion followed regarding the City's seven -year maintenance warranty.
Attorney Meyers explained the warranty should be backed up by cash or bond. Mr.
Buzzell indicated he would be selling the property and didn't want to pay the money
for this warranty, not knowing the disposition of the property after the sale.
Mr. Buzzell left, indicating he would take the matter to court.
GREENFIELD HILLVIEW STOP SIGN
MSP (Rowley /Hodges) to remove the stop sign on Hillview Road and Greenfield based
on complaints from residents and the Police Department recommendation as noted in
the report dated May 9, 1979.
ATTORNEY MEYERS REPORT
Attorney Meyers indicated he had been attending a pre -trial conference with the
civil rights cas. They have been negotiating, and a trial date would be set by
the end of the month. However, it should be resolved in court by May 23.
ACTING ADMINISTRATOR ANDERSON'S REPORT
Acting Administrator Anderson reminded the Council members of several upcoming
meetings.
Staff will distribute copies of the carnival license agreement as discussed at the
April 23, 1979, Council meeting. Councilmember Ziebarth requested the addition to
this agreement to include, "written agreement by the Building Inspector."
Acting Administrator Anderson pointed out Resolution #984 authorizing the City
to purchase radar units through a Federal grant.
MSP (Hodges /Rowley) to authorize the purchase of radar units through a Federal
grant as provided by Resolution #984.
Acting Administrator Anderson suggested the Council members think about a new
City Newsletter.
Acting Administrator Anderson indicated the new City Administrator has asked to
be registered for the local ICMA Conference. Mayor McCarty directed Staff to
send a letter to the new City Administrator indicating he will be registered for
this conference and should forward his check for the same.
5 ayes
5 ayes
MSP (McCarty /Ziebarth) that any Council member that desires to attend the League of
Minnesota Conference June 13, 14 and 15 be allowed to do so and if the money is
not budgeted, it should be taken from the Contingency Fund. 5 ayes
COUNCILMEMBER ZIEBARTH'S REPORT
Councilmember Ziebarth wished to comment regarding the Gale Addition issue. He
expressed his regret that Mr. Buzzell was so upset and felt he was a victim of
circumstance, being caught in the middle of a change.
Mayor McCarty commented they had only been before this Council for 3', months and felt
Mr. Buzzell's reluctance was related to the amount of money expected for warranty.
May 14, 1979 Page 9
COUNCILMEMBER HODGES' REPORT
Councilmember Hodges reported that Clean -Up Day worked out quite well, despite
the rain. He suggested perhaps in the future they should state that it will be
held, irregardless of rain, snow, etc., because some Scouts had not shown up,
probably due to the rain.
Councilmember Hodges reported the Lions Club Flea Market had gone well, despite
the rain. The Lions would like to schedule another for August 18 and 19.
MSP (Ziebarth /Rowley) to authorize the Lions Flea Market for August 18 and 19, 1979,
and waive the permit fee. 5 ayes
COUNCILMEMBER FORSLUND'S REPORT
The Council received two invitations to tour the Girl Scout Council of St. Croix
Valley Program Center and Headquarters on May 17, 18 and 19.
COUNCILMEMBER ROWLEY'S REPORT
Councilmember Rowley indicated that the Lakeside Park Lot is usually swept by
hand and requested the City sweep their lot with the streetsweeper and bill
the Lakeside Park Commission for it.
The Lakeside Park needs floatable plastic containers to use for buoys, i.e.,
bleach bottles, ice crean pails, etc. Councilmember Rowley will collect them.
Councilmember Rowley gave a report from her attendance of the Criminal Justice
Conference.
MAYOR McCARTY'S REPORT
Mayor McCarty requested Staff to furnish the Council with the following two
items from Planning Commission Member Quan: (1) Criteria on selecting a
Planning Consultant, and (2) Planning policies for the Planning Commission.
He reminded Council members that school board elections would be May 15 and the
Children's Hospital Open House (St. Paul) will be held the weekend of May 19 20.
MSP (Hodges /Forslund) to adjourn the meeting at 11:30 p.m.
=ly sup,
Bruce Anderson,
Acting Clerk-Adminis rator
AGENDA
Mounds View City Council
May 14, 1979
1. Roll call of officials
2. Approval of minutes of regular meeting, April 23, 1979
3. Citizen comments and requests
CITIZENS: BEFORE SPEAKING, PLEASE GIVE YOUR FULL NAME
AND ADDRESS FOR THE MINUTES
4. Approval of consent agenda:
Item A. Establish bid opening date for City street seal coating
B. Adopt Resolution #981 requesting City Grant Funds from the
Metropolitan Council H.R.A.
C. Adopt Resolution #982 regarding common drainage areas with
Spring Lake Park
D. Approve sign request for Mounds View Development Co. #1
E. Bills for payment
F. Licenses for approval
G. March, 1979, Activity Reports
H. Reschedule the May 28, 1979, Council Meeting to Tuesday,
May 29, 1979, because of the Memorial Day Holiday
5. Storm Drainage Resolution #983
6. Minor subdivision Gene Tomas 5C39 Bona Road
7. Development proposal George Halverson Two 24 -unit apartment buildings
2908 Highway 10
8. Public improvements sewer and water installation
7500 7600 Silver Lake Road
9. Repair elevated water tank #1
10. Daily Knolls Lot subdivision
11. New Brighton Comprehensive Plan review
12. Gale Addition
13. Greenfield Hiliview Stop Sign
14. Reports of officials
15. Adjournment
CONSENT AGENDA
May 14, 1979
The consent agenda is a technique designed to expedite handling of routine
and miscellaneous official business of the City Council. The entire agenda
may be adopted by the Council in one motion. The motion for adoption is
non debatable and must receive unanimous approval. By request of any
individual Council member, any item can be removed from the consent agenda
and placed upon the regular agenda for debate.
ITEM A. Approve the City seal coating specifications for 1979 and set
the bid opening date for June 12, 1979, at 10:00 a.m.
ITEM B. Adopt Resolution #981 requesting the Metropolitan Council H.R.A.
to apply for Rehabilitation Grant Funds for the City of Mounds View.
ITEM C. Adopt Resolution #982 requesting the City of Spring Lake Park
to control storm drainage runnoff towards the City of Mounds View
to protect the existing Mounds View single family dwellings
from flooding.
ITEM D. Approve temporary installation of advertisement sign for
Mounds View Development Company #1 at the intersection of
Pleasant View Drive and Highway #10.
ITEM E. Approve the May 14, 1979, bills for payment:
Expenditures: $113,154.03; Payroll: $3,491.05
ITEM F. Approve the following licenses:
Neil Heating Air Conditing new
Groth Sewer Water new
Irrigation Specialists new lawn sprinkling systems
Dalberg Builders, Inc. renewal
Waterproofing By Experts, Inc. new basement waterproofing
Gopher State Remodeling new
ITEM G. Receive the March, 1979, Activity Reports from the Parks, Recreation,
and Forestry and Building and Zoning Departments
ITEM H. Reschedule the May 28, 1979, Council Meeting to Tuesday, May 29, 1979,
because of the Memorial Day Holiday