HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes - 1981/04/27The Mounds View City Council was called to
order at 7 :30 p.m. on April 27, 1981, by
Mayor McCarty.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Councilmembers Blanchard,
Doty, Forslund, Hodges, and Mayor McCarty.
ALSO PRESENT: City Attorney Meyers, Clerk/
Administrator Pauley, Public Works Superin-
tendent Decheine and...Finance Director
Brager.
Mayor McCarty presented Neil Loeding, former
Planning Commission member with a Certificate
of Appreciation from the City. He noted that
Mr. Loeding had served the City for the past
four years.
REGULAR MEETING CLOSED: 7:34 p.m.
PUBLIC HEARING OPENED: 7 :34 p.m.
Mr. James A. Trapp, 8018 Sunnyside Road, was
in attendance. He stated that his accessory
building would have a foundation underneath
of it, and also that it would be located away
from the house.
Discussion took place on square footage require-
ments for accessory buildings. It was stated
that Conditional Use Permits are required for
accessory buildings larger than 216 square feet.
Mr. Trapp stated that his lot dimension was
85 feet by 280 feet. Further that he has an
above ground swimming pool in his rear yard.
Attorney Meyers stated that accessory buildings
cannot be larger than 25 percent of the rear
yard.
MOTION: Mayor McCarty made a motion, seconded
by Councilmember Doty to grant the Conditional
Use Permit for a 280 square foot accessory
building for James A. Trapp at 8018 Sunnyside
Road.
Discussion of the Motion:
PROCEEDINGS OF THE CITY COUNCIL DATE APPROVED: 5/11/81
CITY OF MOUNDS VIEW
RAMSEY COUNTY, MINNESOTA
Regular Meeting
April 27, 1981
Mounds View City Hall
2401 Hwy. 10, Mounds View, MN 55112
1. Call to Order
2. Roll Call
3. Presentation of Certificate
to Neil Loeding
4. Public Hearing Conditional
Use Permit for an Oversized
Accessory Building at 8018
Sunnyside Road James A.
Trapp Case 71 -80
MOUNDS VIEW CITY COUNCIL April 27, 1981
Regular Meeting Page Two.
Ordinance requirements and what other cities
allow for accessory buildings was discussed.
Forslund: Stated that she feels that a
Conditional Use Permit can be applied for and granted
for an accessory building in an R -1 district if the
building is less than 216 square feet and not in excess
of 25% of the rear yard area
Hodges: Asked if the garage was attached to the
house. Mr. Trapp stated that it was. Mr. Trapp
further stated that the materials that would be
used for the accessory building would be the
same as what is on the house and also that the
accessory building would be on a floating slab
with pins that would go down into the concrete.
PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED: 7:46 p.m.
REGULAR MEETING RE- OPENED: 7:46 p.m.
Call of the Motion.
Ayes -5
Nays -0 MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR MEETING CLOSED: 7:47 p.m.
PUBLIC HEARING OPENED: 7:47 p.m.
Mr. Jack Welch, representing Scott Builders,
was in attendance.
5.
Discussion took place regarding the placement of
the sanitary sewer. Mr. Welch stated that they are
not sure of the exact location of the sewer line,
but that they are aware that if the sewer line is
located under a footing that they will have to move it
or relocate the entire line. Discussion took place
on deed restrictions as recommended by Northwest
Associated Consultants, Inc. on page 3 of their
memorandum dated November 5, 1980.
Tom Herron, 5289 O'Connell Drive, asked for clarifica-
tion of where Mr. Donut would be located. Also, if it
would be a 24 hour establishment. Mr. Welch showed
the location of the proposed Mr. Donut. He said that it's
on Greenfield next to Brooks Superette. He said that the
hours would depend on the Franchise that would be
coming in.
Mr. Herron stated that he felt that there would be
traffic congestion there at night. Mayor McCarty
read Engineers' comments regarding traffic.
Mike Roos, 5260 Greenfield, talked about food odors from
Anchor Inn when the wind changes direction.
Conditional Use Permit for
Convenience Food Establish-
ment, (Mr. Donut), B -3 zone,
Scott Builders, 2390 Hwy 10,
Case 64 -80
MOUNDS VIEW CITY COUNCIL April 27, 1981
Regular Meeting Page Three.
Karen Lake, 5259 O'Connell, is not in favor of
Mr. Donut because they are open late and because
of increased traffic in the area late at night.
Traffic counts that had been made were discussed.
PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED: 8:01 p.m.
REGULAR MEETING RE- OPENED: 8:01 p.m.
MOTION: Councilmember Hodges made a motion,
seconded by Councilmember Forslund to grant the
Conditional Use Permit for Mr. Donut and to adopt
Resolution 1273, and to waive the reading of the
Resolution.
Ayes -5
Nays -0 MOTION CARRIED.
Corrections: 6. Approval of the April 13,
1981, Regular Meeting Minutes
Forslund: Russell Rahl should be Russell
1W bottom of page 1, and also on
the bottom of page 3.
MOTION: Councilmember Forslund made a motion,
se co�nced by Councilmember Doty to accept the
Minutes of the April 13, 1981, Regular Meeting
as corrected.
Ayes -5
Nays -0 MOTION CARRIED.
There were no comments from the audience.
Mayor McCarty asked that Item C be removed from
the Consent Agenda for discussion.
MOTION: Councilmember Hodges made a motion,
seconded by Councilmember Blanchard to approve
the Consent Agenda (eliminating Item C) and to
waive the reading of the Resolutions.
Ayes -5
Nays -0 MOTION CARRIED.
MOTION: Mayor McCarty made a motion, seconded by
touncilmember Doty to change paragraph #3 of
Resolution 1248 to read as follows: "Whereas,
it has been determined that a moratorium cannot
be placed on the enforcement of a Municipal
Police Ordinance by Resolution
Ayes -5
Nays -0 MOTION CARRIED.
7. Residents Requests and
Comments from the Floor.
8. Approval of Consent Agenda.
MOUNDS VIEW CITY COUNCIL April 27, 1981
Regular Meeting Page Four.
MOTION: Mayor McCarty made a motion
seconded by Councilmember Forslund,to adopt
kesolution 1248 as amended.
Ayes -5
Nays -0 MOTION CARRIED.
MOTION: Councilmember Forslund made a motion,
seconded by Councilmember Hodges to approve
the second reading of Ordinance No. 302.
Ayes -5
Nays -0 MOTION CARRIED.
Clerk /Administrator Pauley read Ordinance
No. 302.
MOTION: Councilmember Forslund made a motion,
seed by Councilmember Hodges to adopt
Ordinance No. 302.
Vote was taken by calling of the roll.
Ayes -5
Nays -0 MOTION CARRIED.
Those persons indicating a desire to speak
on this issue, signed in as follows:
Jerry Linke
Rod Halvorson
Clare D. Geerts
Homberto Martinez
John Winiecki
Roger Baumgartner
Kathleen Long
Judy Rowley
Tom Rowley
Arnold Marquette
Phil Koski
Mrs. Elizabeth Shel
Ron Ward
Harold Finney
Dan Snare
Doris Olson
Orville Olson
2319 Knoll Drive
2629 Ridge Lane
7600 Knollwood Drive
5144 Long Lake Road
7575 Groveland Road
7585 Knollwood Drive
2604 Ridge Lane
2562 Ridge Lane
2562 Ridge Lane
7584 Groveland Road
7588 Groveland Road
quist
8025 Fairchild
6960 Silver Lake Road
7624 Spring Lake Road
5138 Long Lake Road
8101 Edgewood Drive
8101 Edgewood Drive
Dan Snare, 5138 Long Lake Road, is in favor
of the truck Ordinance. He said that he had
turned in a petition some time ago. He gave
copies of the former petition to the Council
which was in favor of the original Ordinance.
Harold Finney, 7624 Spring Lake Road, owns a
new dump truck. He parks it at home. He
can't park the truck at the construction site
because of vandalism.
9. Second reading of Ordinance
No. 302, amending the
Code of Mounds View by
amending Chapter 41, entitled
"Specific Rezoning
10. First reading of Ordinance
No. 303, amending Code of
Mounds View by amending
Chapter 81, entitled "Parking
MOUNDS VIEW CITY COUNCIL April 27, 1981
Regular Meeting. Page Five.
Phil Koski, 7588 Groveland Road, is against the
parking of trucks in residential areas.
Arnold Marquette, 7584 Groveland Road, is against
parking trucks on residential streets.
Judy Rowley, 2562 Ridge Lane, is in favor of the
Ordinance as it is now written. Discussed noise
factors briefly. Further, that she has the same
concerns as she did when the Ordinance first went
into effect.
Kathleen Long, 2604 Ridge Lane, is against the
parking of semi's in driveways or streets. Also,
that the trucks made alot of noise.
Roger Baumgartner, 7585 Knollwood Drive, is in
favor of the Ordinance as it exists now. He talked
about a flat bed truck that had previously blocked
traffic lanes on Silver Lake Road. He asked what
heavy vehicles were going to do on the small interior
streets. Councilmember Doty talked about heavy
vehicles (i.e. buses, garbage trucks) that use the
streets.
John Winiecki, 7575 Groveland Road, with the road
restrictions he cannot get a load of black dirt
down the street. He opposes changing the Ordinance.
Homberto Martinez, 5144 Long Lake Road, opposes the
parking of trucks in residential areas. Talked about
the noise and hazards of parking trucks in residential
areas.
Jerry Linke, 2319 Knoll Drive, is against the parking
of semi's on residential streets or avenues.
Rod Halvorson, 2629 Ridge Lane, sympathizes with
the truck drivers regarding parking, but is opposed
to them parking on streets in residential areas.
Clare Geerts, 7600 Knollwood Drive, opposes any
changes to the Ordinance because of comments that
have already been made.
Mrs. Elizabeth (Betty) Shelquist, 8025 Fairchild,
stated that when they first moved into the village,
they came in and got a Zoning Ordinance. In 1963
trucks were not allowed in residential areas. She
is opposed to changing the Ordinance because of
several reason, mainly because she feels that when
you invest in an R -1 District there are certain laws
protecting the homeowners. Her neighbor has a truck
and she feels that this devalues the homeowners
property and the neighborhood. She stated that they
have never been allowed to park before and why should
the Ordinance be changed now.
MOUNDS VIEW CITY COUNCIL
Regular Meeting. Page ge Six. 1981
Mrs. Shelquist talked about a flat bed truck that
had parked on the street without it's lights on.
Further that a petition had been obtained, at the
time when the first Ordinance went into effect,
with approximately 300 names on it She asked what
the Attorney's opinion was if this went to court.
Discussion took place on the petitions that had
orginally been submitted when the Ordinance had
gone into effect.
Attorney Meyers discussed a few cases that had
previously challenged parking Ordinances. He said
that Ordinances are construed to be constitutional
unless shown otherwise. Also, that parking fee
schedules are set by the Courts.
Councilmember Doty asked if there was a parking
Ordinance in 1963? Attorney Meyers stated that the
Ordinance had been adopted in 1976.
Mrs. Shelquist stated that she feels that a respon-
sible person would not take a truck home in a
residential area. She said that in 1959, if you
operated a business that there were certain parking
restrictions, that if you operated a business, or
parked a truck for a business, that it could only
be done in certain zones. She asked Council to
consider a refrigeration truck that would need to
run all night.
Attorney Meyers talked about the Home Occupation
part of the Ordinance. He discussed the differences
between parking a truck and a recreational vehicle
on property. He stated that no truck can be parked
on a street for more than two hours.
Judy Rowley,stated that she had gone through her
files and had found a copy of one of the original
petitions. She said that a survey had gone out
through the Newsletter at that time. She said that
there had been two (2) petitions when the Ordinance
had gone into effect.
Mayor McCarty said that the issue of the truck
parking Ordinance had been talked about at the last
meeting. He said that a decision would not be
made until after the 2nd reading of Ordinance
No. 303.
Clerk /Administrator Pauley, stated that in the
June 20, 1977, Minutes, it states that a Newsletter
went out with a survey for recreational vehicles.
That there had been 132 responses, of which 70%
had been owners of recreational vehicles. Further
that staff would look again for the original
petitions.
Mayor McCarty discussed the enforcement of the
Ordinance. Councilmember Blanchard stated that
4 between November of 1977 and April 1st of this
year, that 438 tags had been issued of which 227
were to one person on a complaint type basis.
Ron Ward, 6960 Silver Lake Road, he has parked his
truck in his yard for the last 3 years.and has
not had a ticket or accident and does not feel
that he is a safety hazard. He said thatthe roads
are 9 ton design and that he cannot hurt the roads.
He further stated that his tractor and trailer
weight 26,000 pounds. Further that he feels that
3 tons per axle is not too much for the roads.
Also that road limits are put on by those who
construct the roads.
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MOUNDS VIEW CITY COUNCIL April 27, 1981
Regular Meeting. Page Seven.
Roger Baumgartner, 7585 Knollwood Drive, stated
that in order for people to get in they need
to come in on the streets.
Jean Miller, 2291 Hillsview Road, stated that
3 or 4 times a year cars cut up her yard, also
the snowmobiles, but not trucks.
Clerk /Administrator Pauley gave the Council a
letter that he had received concerning this
issue to be made part of the record.
MOTION: Councilmember Doty made a motion, seconded
by Councilmember Forslund to approve the first
reading of Ordinance No. 303.
Vote was taken by calling of the roll.
Ayes -3
Nays -2 (Councilmembers Blanchard and Hodges
voted nay).
MOTION CARRIED.
Clerk /Administrator Pauley read Ordinance
No. 303.
COUNCIL RECESSED FOR A BREAK: 8:48 p.m.
COUNCIL RE- CONVENED AT: 9:05 p.m.
Clerk /Administrator Pauley showed the Site Plan, 11. Approval of Silver View
Bloh Plan and Site Analysis of the Master Plan. Park Master Plan
He stated that he believes that the only change
that has been made is the addition of two more
tennis courts making a total of four tennis
courts.
Mr. Jerry Linke, Parks /Recreation, was in
attendance to answer questions.
MOUNDS VIEW CITY COUNCIL April 27, 1981
Regular Meeting Page Eight.
Summary of Discussion:
Walkway entrance moved closer to Bronson. Walk-
way to go through residential area.
Northerly most lots exit onto Silver Lake Road.
The lots further south exit to the cul -de -sac.
Entrance to the cul -de -sac and the entrance to
Bronson were too close, therefore moved to create
larger distances between accesses.
The need to acquire another walkway easement.
Drainage and elevation of the development.
MOTION: Mayor McCarty made a motion, seconded
byncilmember Hodges to tentatively approve
the Silver View Park Master Plan and to direct
staff to draw up specifications for Phase I
of the development and before bids have been
let to obtain approval of the plan from the
Planning Commission.
Ayes -5
Nays -0 MOTION CARRIED.
MOTION: Councilmember Doty made a motion, seconded 12. Approval of Resolution
byncilmember Forslund to adopt Resolution 1274- No. 1274 Park Referendum
ParK Board referendum Task Force, and to waive the Tax Force.
reading of the resolution.
Ayes -5
Nays -0 MOTION CARRIED.
Discussion took place regarding error in payment to
Kraus Anderson for property that the City had pur-
chased and the action that the City had taken to
complete the transaction.
Clerk /Administrator Pauley stated that Parks 13. First Quarter 1981 Staff
and Recreation Director Anderson and Police Report
Chief Grabowski were unable to attend the meeting
this evening.
Public Works Superintendent Decheine stated that
Bill Hanson and Chris Weston had both passed their
Class D State of Minnesota Certification to operate
a water treatment plant. He discussed the flushing
of the lines. Further that Lift Station #5 is out
of service. He stated that they have budgeted for
part -time help, and that for the past 2 years they
have hired the same man and that they would like
to rehire him again this year.
Consensus of the City Council was that it would be
alright to rehire the same man. Council instructed
staff to draw up a Resolution for this for the next
agenda meeting.
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MOUNDS VIEW CITY COUNCIL April 27, 1981
Regular Meeting Page Nine.
Discussion took place on the expenditures for
snow plowing.
Superintendent Decheine stated that the necessary
repairs to Quincy would be completed when the
weather permits.
Mayor McCarty asked if the garage would be open
on Saturday morning for Clean -Up Day? Superintendent
Decheine stated that the garage would be set
up and open by 8:00 a.m. on Saturday.
Clerk /Administrator Pauley briefly discussed
the 8% levy limitation in the governors revised
budget. He stated that if possible he would
notify Council as to the date of the Committee
meeting.
Finance Director Brager made a presentation of
his financial report. He stated that he had met
with Greg Murphy of Hanson Company today regarding
the rough draft of the audit. Further that final
copies of the draft should be out next week.
Discussion in length took place regarding the
8% levy limitation and the possible effects
that this would have on the City.
Finance Director Brager showed and discussed
in length a 3 year comparative on how the 8%
levy limitation could affect the City.
Discussion took place on bonds, bond interest,
special assessments, 1980 property taxes.
Council instructed Clerk /Administrator Pauley
to draw up a resolution for the legislature
opposing the 8% levy limitation, to deliver
resolution to Councilmembers by Wednesday, and
to authorize the Mayor to deliver it to the
City's legislative representatives.
Michael Chilinski, 5242 Red Oak Drive, was in
attendance. He asked for the hearing to be
set as soon as possible. He stated that he had
called Ramsey County for lot size and was told
that it was 89' by 134'. He stated that his
garage is 24' and the house is 34'. Further that
with a metal detector he had found the irons on
the south side of his lot, but was unable to find
the ones on the north. Also talked about the
back of his lot being low.
Summary of Discussion:
Planning Commissions denial action on the request.
14. Consideration of request
for Variance Appeal
5242 Red Oak Drive, and
setting a public hearing
for May 11, 1981.
MOUNDS VIEW CITY COUNCIL April 27, 1981
Regular Meeting Page Ten.
The fact that the builder had only applied for
but had not acquired a Building Permit.
Blanchard: She thinks that the Planning
Commission made the correct action. She
questioned a violation of the City Ordinance
because the contractor started building before
a Permit had been issued.
Hodges: Was wondering why the contractor had
proceeded to build without a Permit.
Forslund: Agrees with Planning Commission
MTh that there was some sort of
break -down of communications.
Clerk /Administrator Pauley stated that several
phone calls and a letter had been sent to the
contractor, but there had been no response.
Further that he would have a survey done
to locate corner stakes.
Doty: He feels that the Contractor should find
some viable alternatives to the problem.
MOTION: Councilmember Forslund made a motion,
seconded by Councilmember Doty to accept the
appeal and to set a public hearing on May 11,
1981, at 7:35 p.m.
Ayes -5
Nays -0 MOTION CARRIED.
Consensus of the Council was to review the
contractors license at the May 11, 1981,
meeting.
Attorney Meyers discussed Minnesota Statute
462.356, subd. 2, regarding Capital Improvements
Plan. He stated that the Capital Improvements
Plan for the Silver View Park Plan has to be
reviewed by the Planning Commission.
Attorney Meyers briefly discussed the Airport
issue and Minnesota Statute 473.641, subd. 4.
Clerk /Administrator Pauley stated that he had
no report.
Blanchard: Reminded Council and citizens
of meeting on Tuesday, April 28, 1981, at
8:00 p.m. at the City Hall regarding budget
cuts.
Doty: Noted actions from the Parks and
Recreation Commission Meeting that was held on
15. City Attorney's Report
16. Report of City Administrator
17. Report of Councilmembers
MOUNDS VIEW CITY COUNCIL
Regular Meeting
April 23, 1981. He stated that he would like
to have a file drawer where Councilmembers could
keep some of their project files and minutes from
past meetings.
Hodges: Noted signage problem for the handicapped
between Angles Pizza and Budget:Liquor. He further
noted that a neighbor had contacted him regarding
basement height for +an addition. They presently
have 7'ceilingand the State Building Code requires
that the ceiling be 7'8 Clerk /Administrator
Pauley stated that .a commission will be proposed to
look =at' variances to the. State Building Code..
MOTION: Councilmember Forslund made a motion,
seconded by Councilmenter Doty to accept the annual
report from the Spring Lake Park and Mounds View
Fire Department.
Ayes -5
Nays -0 MOTION CARRIED.
McCarty: Stated that Clean -Up Day would be on
Saturday. He discussed the Resolution regarding
Lakeside Park. Further that he would be attending
a meeting with the Fire Department to discuss thl
proposed contract on Wednesday, April 29, 1981.
MOTION: Councilmember Blanchard made a motion, 18. Adjournment.
seconded by Councilmember Doty to adjourn.
Ayes -5
Nays -0
Meeting was adjourned at 11:21 p.m.
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MOTION CARRIED.
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April 27, 1981
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strator
Jerry Linke
Rod Halvorson
Clare D. Geerts
Humberto Martinez
John Winiecki
Roger Baumgartner
Kathleen Long
Judy Rowley
Tom Rowley
Arnold Marquette
Phil Koski
Mrs. Elizabeth Shelquist
Ron Wood
Harold E. Finney
Dan Snare
Doris Olson
Orville Olson
APRIL 27, 1981 COUNCIL MEETING
RESIDENTS PRESENT REGARDING TRUCK ORDINANCE
2;19 Knoll Drive
2629 Ridge Lane
7600 Knollwoc2 Drive
5144 Long Lake Road
7575 Groveland Road
7585 Knollwood Drive
2604 Ridge Lane
2562 Ridge Lane
2562 Ridge Lane
7584 Groveland Road
7588 Groveland Road
8025 Fairchild
6960 Silver Lake Road
7624 Spring Lake Road
5138 Long Lake Road
8101 Edgewood Drive
8101 Edgewood Drive