HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes - 1987/08/24CITY COUNCIL MEETING
CITY OF MOUNDS VIEW
AUGUST 24, 1987
7:00 P.M.
A G E N D A
1. Call to Order
2. Pledge of Allegiance
3. Roll Call Blanchard, Wuori, Quick, Hankner, Linke
4. Approval of Minutes: August 10, 1987
Regular Meeting
(Received in 8 -17 -87 Packet)
5. Public Hearings 7:05 P.M.- Consideration of Adequacy
of Mounds View Business
Park Environmental Impact
Statement
7:10 P.M.- 1987 Long Term Financial
Plan
7:15 P.M.- Request for Conditional Use
Permit for Oversized
Accessory Building, Willard
and Marvis Haro, 7545
Pleasant View Drive
7:20 P.M.- Preliminary Plat for
Greenfield Estates,
Harstad Company
7:25 P.M.- Intoxicating Liquor
License Application of
Richard Povlitzki for
POV's (formerly Muldoon's,
Inc.) 2400 Co. Rd. H -2
6. Residents Requests and Comments From The Floor
CITIZENS: BEFORE SPEAKING PLEASE GIVE YOUR FULL NAME
AND ADDRESS FOR THE MINUTES
7. Approval of Consent Agenda
ITEM A. Approve Bid Documents and Specifications for
Dump Truck with Options and Authorize Bid
Opening for 10 :00 a.m., September 11, 1987
AGENDA
PAGE TWO
AUGUST 24, 1987
ITEM B. Accept Resignation of City Planner Becky Balk
Effective August 19, 1987
ITEM C. Adopt Resolution No. 2227 Approving Just and
Correct Claims Against City Funds
ITEM D. Licenses for Approval
Boxing Expires 8/25/87
Kobra Enterprises New
General Expires 6/30/88
Brunn Construction Renewal
Klatke Construction New
Reliable Builders, Inc. New
Richter Construction New
S S Construction Renewal
J. B. Swedenborg Construction, Inc. New
Durabilt Associates, Inc. New
Regal Construction New
Grant Home Remodelers New
Heating and Air Conditioning Expires 6/30/88
All Season Comfort Renewal
Realistic Heating and Cooling, Inc. New
Rouse Mechanical, Inc. Renewal
BSM Heating Air Conditioning Renewal
Masonry Expires 6/3/88
J. H. and Company Construction New
Swimming Pool Expires 6/30/88
ABC Pools New
Minnesota Package Products dba Pacific Pool and
Patio Renewal
Agendas and Minutes Expires 8/31/87
Paster Enterprises Renewal
8. First Reading of Ordinance No. 428 Approving 1987 Long
Term Financial Plan
9. Consideration of Resolution No. 2225 Approving a
Conditional Use Permit for Willard and Marvis Haro, 7545
Pleasant View Drive, Mounds View Planning Case No.
218 -87
10. Consideration of Resolution No. 2226 Approving
Preliminary Plat for Greenfield Estates, Mounds View
Planning Case No. 213 -87
AGENDA
PAGE THREE
AUGUST 24, 1987
11. First Reading of Ordinance No. 424 Vacating the Excess
Right -Of -Way Abutting Lots 5 and 6 in Block 1,
Greenfield Estates Prelimnary Plat
12. First Reading of Ordinance No. 425 Amending Greenfield
Estates Wetland Boundaries
13. Consideration of Resolution No. 2228 Approving Used Auto
Sales License to Kevin Mullins, dba Mid American Auto
14. Consideration of Ordinance No. 427 Repealing Chapter
20, Public Improvement Revolving Fund
15. Report of Attorney
16. Report of Councilmembers: Blanchard, Wuori, Quick,
Hankner, Linke
17. Report of Administrator
18. Adjournment
CONSENT AGENDA
AUGUST 24, 1987
The Consent Agenda is a technique designed to expedite
handling of routine and miscellaneous official business of
the City Council. The entire agenda may be adopted by the
Council in one motion. The motion for adoption is non
debatable and must receive unanimous approval. By request
of any individual Councilmember, an item can be removed from
the Consent Agenda and placed upon the Regular Agenda for
debate.
ITEM A. Approve Bid Documents and Specifications for
Dump Truck with Options and Authorize Bid
Opening for 10:00 a.m., September 11, 1987
ITEM B. Accept Resignation of City Planner Becky Balk
Effective August 19, 1987
ITEM C. Adopt Resolution No. 2227 Approving Just and
Correct Claims Against City Funds
ITEM D. Licenses for Approval
Boxing Expires 8/25/87
Kobra Enterprises New
General Expires 6/30/88
Brunn Construction Renewal
Klatke Construction New
Reliable Builders, Inc. New
Richter Construction New
S S Construction Renewal
J. B. Swedenborg Construction, Inc. New
Durabilt Associates, Inc. New
Regal Construction New
Grant Home Remodelers New
Heating and Air Conditioning Expires 6/30/88
All Season Comfort Renewal
Realistic Heating and Cooling, Inc. New
Rouse Mechanical, Inc. Renewal
BSM Heating Air Conditioning Renewal
Masonry Expires 6/3/88
J. H. and Company Construction New
Swimming Pool Expires 6/30/88
ABC Pools New
Minnesota Package Products dba Pacific Pool and
Patio Renewal
Agendas and Minute* Expires 8/31/87
Paster Enterprises Renewal
The Mounds View City Council was called to order by 1. Call to Order
Mayor Linke at 7:02 PM on Monday, August 24, 1987.
The Pledge of Allegiance was said.
PROCEEDINGS OF THE CITY COUNCIL
CITY OF MOUNDS VIEW
RAMSEY COUNTY, MINNESOTA
MEMBERS PRESENT: Councilmembers Blanchard, Wuori,
Quick, Hankner and Mayor Linke.
ALSO PRESENT: City Attorney Meyers and Clerk/
Administrator Pauley.
Motion /Second: Hankner /Quick to approve the August 10,
1987 minutes as presented.
5 ayes 0 nays
Alice Frits, 8072 Long Lake Road, asked for an update
on the airport construction, pipeline and cars for sale
being parked on Long Lake Road.
Mayor Linke replied the pipeline is being lowered in
front of Irondale High School, as construction is
beginning on Long Lake Road, and he believes they will
be putting in a new pipeline.
Clerk /Administrator Pauley reported on the progress of
the extension of the north /south runway and removal of
the exiting runway. He stated the paved surface is to
be done yet this year. He added that activity on the
south end of the airport is due to construction of
Highway 610.
Mrs. Frits complained about an individual who was park-
ing cars with for sale signs along the boulevard on
Long Lake Road, about 3 houses to the south of her.
She stated she understands he has been ticketed by the
Police, but he continues to park vehicles there.
Mayor Linke replied he would check with the Police
Department and get back to her.
DATE APPROVED: 9/08/87
Regular Meeting
August 24, 1987
Mounds View City Hall
2401 Hwy. 10, Mounds View, MN 55112
2. Pledge of
Allegiance
3. Roll Call
4. Approval of
Minutes:
August 10, 1987
Motion Carried
5. Residents
Requests and
Comments from
the Floor
Mounds View City Council August 24, 1987
Regular Meeting Page Two
AftMayor Linke closed the regular meeting and opened the 6. Public Hearing:
WiFfirst public hearing at 7:06 PM. Consideration
of Adequacy
Mr. Phil Carlson, representing the developer, reviewed of Mounds View
the procedure they have followed to date. He stated Business Park
the final EIS has been prepared and it is now up to EIS
the Council to determine if it is adequate. He added
he feels everything is adequate with the exception of
one item which is still being addressed by the Met
Council regarding storm water runoff into the system.
He stated he hopes they could have a final decision
from the Council at the next meeting, as the final
input from the Met Council should be received by then.
Vicki Varkuss, 7749 Woodlawn, asked what would be
better about this office park than ones in Roseville,
Fridley and other cities.
Mr. Carlson stated they have estimated 1,800 jobs will
be involved with the companies who locate there, not
just construction related jobs, and the development
will provide a tax base and greater employment within
the City. He added Everest Development is committed
to a quality project, and they have faith in it's
success.
411 Clerk/Administrator Pauley stated the Met Council has
sent a letter regarding their concern over the loading
into the system, and Staff would recommend this item
be tabled until September 8, 1987 to provide adequate
time to resolve any questions.
Bill Frank, the developer, stated he had spoken with
the Met Council and they are waiting for information
from the PCA, and once that information is received,
they can have their recommendation out within two days.
Motion /Second: Hankner /Wuori to set a special meeting
of the Council for 7 PM on Tuesday, September 8, 1987.
5 ayes 0 nays
Mayor Linke closed the public hearing and reopened
the regular meeting at 7:16 PM.
Mayor Linke closed the regular meeting and opened
the second public hearing at 7:16 PM.
Finance Director Brager reviewed the proposed 1987
long term financial plan. He explained it had been
prepared in compliance with Section 7.05 of the Home
Rule Charter for the City, and is designed to provide
a five year plan to meet the service level and capital
improvement needs of the City.
Motion Carried
7. Public Hearing:
1987 Long Term
inancial Plan
Mounds View City Council August 24, 1987
Regular Meeting
411 Finance Director Brager stated the plan is available
at City Hall for inspection, and has been published
in the New Brighton Bulletin.
There were no questions from anyone present. Mayor
Linke closed the public hearing and reopened the
regular meeting at 7:19 PM.
Mayor Linke closed the regular meeting and opened
the next public hearing at 7:19 PM.
Clerk /Administrator Pauley reviewed the request of
Willard. and Marvis Haro for a conditional use
permit for an oversized accessory building at their
home at 7545 Pleasant View Drive. He stated the
Planning Commission has recommended approval, with
restrictions, and he reviewed those restrictions.
There were no questions from anyone present. Mayor
Linke closed the public hearing and reopened the
regular meeting at 7:21 PM.
Mayor Linke closed the regular meeting and opened
the next public hearing at 7:21 PM.
Clerk /Administrator Pauley reported that Harstad
Company has proposed a preliminary plat for Green-
field Estates, but when Staff reviewed the public
hearing notices that had been sent out, they
discovered an error had been made and approximately
20 homes were not provided with adequate notice, so
he recommended rescheduling the public hearing and
conducting an informational meeting at this time.
Mayor Linke closed the public hearing at 7:22 PM
and reopened the regular meeting, stating that it
would be an informational meeting on this item.
Jim Senden, of Senden and Associates, representing
the Harstad Company, presented copies of the pre-
liminary plat, and introduced Steve Thatcher, of
Merrill and Associates, and Roger Blomquist, of
Braun Engineering, who would be making the presentation
with him.
Mr. Senden explained Mr. Harstad had purchased the
property in 1969 with the intention of developing
it into a single family home neighborhood, and he
has paid taxes and the sewer and water assessment
on the property, and while plans had been presented
before, they were caught up in the wetland ordinance,
and building moritorium and were not allowed to build.
Page Three
8. Public Hearing:
Conditional
Use Permit for
Willard and
Marvis Haro,
7545 Pleasant
View Drive
9. Public Hearing:,
Preliminary
Plat for
Greenfield
Estates,
Harstad Company
Mounds View City Council August 24, 1987
Regular Meeting Page Four
AllMr. Senden reviewed the plan for 18 single family
MPFhome lots, explaining the City has required that
approximately 8 acres of wetlands be deeded to the
City. He stated they are proposing to alter a small
portion of the wetlands, and in exchange would be
constructing three small ponds within the wetland
area, which would attract wildlife. He reviewed the
proposed ponding and water drainage as it currently
is, and explained they are proposing to restore the
wetland area to it's previous state by digging 2 feet
deeper than the area is presently, which will increase
the storage capacity for run -off.
Dr. Blomquist explained the methods of classifying
wetlands, and he stated their staff had gone out and
physically studied and determined the amount of
wetland in the area to be 7.9 acres.
Mr. Thatcher reviewed the contours of the land and
the soil conditions in the area. He stated the
project has been approved by the Ramsey County
Watershed District, Minnesota DNR, and the U.S. Army
Corp of Engineering, with some stipulations by the
Corp of Engineering. He also reviewed the storm
water analysis of the site.
4110 Kathy Ayaz, 7751 Bona Road, stated her property abutts
the proposed development, and they have a neighborhood
group which is present to voice their concern about
the development, and to ask for a delay in any approval
by the Council.
Sabri Ayaz, 7751 Bona Road, stated he is a professional
civil engineer and asked if there was a disclaimer at
the end of Dr. Blomquist's report.
Dr. Blomquist replied there was no disclaimer.
Mr. Ayaz stated he had asked for information many times
regarding this development and had not been given it.
He asked if the lateral and vertical movement of the
water been considered both during and after construction.
He stated he feels the people involved in proposing this
project are not experts who are qualified to make
judgements on these issues, as this is a highly
specialized field.
Mr. Senden replied there has been an extensive amount
of analysis by very qualified engineers. and Braun
Engineering was hired to do specific areas of the project.
He added that Merrill and Associates is also a very
qualified firm.
Mounds View City Council August 24, 1987
Regular Meeting Page Five
Mayor Linke asked Mr. Ayaz if he knew of any qualified
$p professionals who could look at this project for them.
'Mr. Ayaz replied that he did and would provide the
names to the Council.
Councilmember Hankner suggested checking out the
qualifications of the consultants and perhaps looking
into the consultants Mr. Ayaz knows.
Kay Weseman, 7807 Bona Road, stated she has major
concerns with the development and made a lengthy
statement against development of the property. She
questioned whether the developer had met the require-
ments for altering a wetland, and stated she does not
feel an examination of the land was done at the right
time, and she also stated the City should look into
the question of eminent domain. She also questioned
whether the study done was of a hundred year storm.
Mr. Thatcher replied it was and he reviewed the data
compiled.
Dr. Blomquist reviewed how the observations were made
and the fact that they were done in July and August
of 1986, for 5 days total.
Jim Sandidge, 7817 Bona Road, stated he would like
the consultants to provide a financial guarantee, and
asked the Council to consider an irrevocable letter of
credit. He stated he presently has a water problem
any time there is a heavy rain, and he felt this
development would add to his problems.
Mayor Linke stated the development agreement would
cover the concerns expressed.
Mr. Sandidge asked if unusual weather conditions been
taken into consideration in the studies that have been
done this past year.
Mr. Senden explained the data has been compiled over the
past two years, with Braun Engineering doing the testing
last year and the Corp of Engineers doing the testing
this year.
Doug Weseman, 7807 Bona Road, stated he would like the
environmental concerns expressed documented by the
developer.
Mr. Senden replied that many of the items that have been
brought up are addressed in the City's ordinances.
Mr. Weseman read a portion of a statement from the DNR
regarding encroachment of the wetlands and possible
consequences.
Mounds View City Council August 24, 1987
Regular Meeting Page Six
AihMr. Senden restated that they have proposed moving the
imiNetland somewhat but will not decrease the area at all.
Mr. Thatcher read the letter from the DNR which Mr.
Weseman had referred to. Mr. Senden also read portions
of a letter from the Army Corps of Engineers.
There was a lengthy discussion of the definition of
contours and how it affects this particular area, and
Mayor Linke clarified that the flood plain is by
elevation, whereas the wetland is by vegetation.
Mr. Weseman read a petition signed by residents of the
area opposed to the development of this area, and
presented it to the Council.
Mr. Senden stated he felt a good deal of misinformation
was read in the opening statement of the petition
presented by Mr. Weseman.
Andrzej Kulisz, 2367 Pinewood Circle, asked how the
pond proposed for the southeast section would affect his
property and the water table.
Mr. Senden reviewed the location of the pond and the
effect it would have on the surrounding areas.
Mr. Kulisz stated his tree:
lack of water, as the watel
and he stated that while h_
development, he would like
his money into.
are presently dying from
table has gotten so low,
is not against this
to protect what he has put
Clerk /Administrator Pauley stated that with Mr. Kulisz's
permission, he would like the City Forester to take a
look ac the trees, as the City is having a problem with
oak wilt.
Lindsay Little, 5539 St. Michael, stated he has had a
problem with water on his lot for many years, and he has
one of the highest houses on his street, and he is
concerned because of the problems he has already had, and
he asked whether this development would pull water away
from him or cause more problems.
Mr. Senden replied the water ought to flow from Mr.
Little's property down to the pond. Mr. Thatcher added
that the pond would regulate the water table in the area.
Leo Onstad, 7730 Bona Road, stated that last year he had
water problems from April 25 through July, and he has
had problems again this year. He stated he feels they
''need a study done of the area and it's problems, as the
elevations do not naturally effect the water levels.
"p Charles Mechtel, 5533 St. Michael Street, asked why
a pond is proposed for the southeast corner, which is
a high area now, rather than in the middle.
Mr. Senden replied that between perculation and evapo-
ration, as well as water moving through the area, there
will be enough movement to keep the ponds clean and
serve their purpose for the development. He added that
with a long dry spell, the ponds would be expected to
dry up
Mounds View City Council August 24, 1987
Regular Meeting Page Seven
Mr. Senden replied they must trade upland for wetland
area, so have placed the ponds accordingly.
Mr. Mechtel stated he does not want a pond in his
back yard.
Mr. Senden pointed out that water problems presently
being experienced cannot be coming from the proposed
area, as it is nearly 12 feet lower in elevation than
that of the property owners who have stated they have
problems now.
Jeff Williams, 2375 Pinewood Circle, stated he has a
drainage pond is his back yard already and questioned
how this development would affect his property.
Mr. Thatcher reviewed the projections again.
Mike Winkel, 7701 Bona Road, asked how three holding
ponds all showing a depth of 2 feet each would help
with the water problems in the area.
Mayor Linke explained that City ordinance stated that
no more water can leave a development than currently
does, or at a faster rate.
Reed Krogh, 7827 Bona Road, stated he was concerned
that when Edgewood Road was put through, it would serve
as a dike and stop the ground water from moving.
Dan Boxrud, of Short Elliott Hendrickson, explained that
water can go through sand 100 times faster than it can
through peat, and he felt the proposal was more than
adequate in that respect, and that it would be equal
or better than existing conditions.
Mr. Ayaz stated that that Dr. Blomquist's signature does
not appear at the bottom of the study he has presented,
and he questioned what Mr. Senden's qualifications were.
Mr. Senden reviewed his background, and he also stated
that he resents the professional slurs that have been
made against both himself and the individuals working
with him.
Mounds View City Council August 24, 1987
Regular Meeting Page Eight
4 11Councilmember Hankner once again asked the residents
to provide the Council with a list of people they
would like to see the City use to check the
statistics out, as well as their concerns.
Mr. Boxrud stated that in the interest of speed,
he feels the developer would be best to hire Braun
Engineering to do the required testing.
Councilmember Hankner asked the neighborhood residents
to look at the request in a professional, objective
manner, and stated it had become an emotional issue.
Mrs. Weseman stated she was concerned with the safety
issue of the ponds, as far as keeping children out
of them.
Mr. Senden explained the slopes will be gentle, and
they would also replant and reseed the areas around
the ponds.
Mrs. Weseman asked who would be responsible for main-
taining the ponds.
Mayor Linke replied that it took approximately 30 years
for the ditch in the area to require cleaning, and the
City would be responsible for their maintenance, and
would use funds from the SWM account, which is funded
by developers.
Mrs. Weseman stated she had been told by the City
Engineer, either Steve Rose or Steve Thatcher, that
funds were not available for that and it would have
to be charged back to the residents. She added that
she was asked by the same individual whether she would
be willing to write a letter to the City stating that
she would be willing to pay for it.
Mayor Linke clarified that Steve Rose was not the City
Engineer, and that Steve Thatcher had been the Engineer
at the time in question, and that that was misinformation,
as the City does not ask residents to pay for that them-
selves.
Ali Sabur, 7837 Bona Road, stated he was also concerned
with the safety of the ponds, and also asked which map
was correct, the aerial map or the map that was being
presented at this time.
Mr. Senden explained why the differences in the maps
occurred.
Mayor Linke stated the maps being used by Mr. Senden
are correct and have been verified by both the County
and the Corps of Engineers.
Mounds View City Council August 24, 1987
Regular Meeting Page Nine
Rodney Melbow, 5601 St. Michael Street, asked what
would be done with the oak trees in the area that
is planned to become the pond for the southeast
section.
Mr. Senden replied that area is a mixture of many
trees, and they would be removed.
Phyllis Melbow, 5601 St. Michael Street, asked if
there would be an odor created by the ponds, or
additional mosquitos.
Mr. Senden replied the area is being seeded right now
with briquettes for mosquito control. He added that
any stagnant water can create an odor, but they do
not anticipate that problem, as the ponds should be
flushed out naturally.
Councilmember Blanchard stated that in order to
expedite the proceedings, she would like to have the
developer, City Staff, Mr. Boxrud and the residents
get together and work the questions out more
thoroughly, once the developer has had an opportunity
to get the requested information together.
Mayor Linke asked that the residents submit any other
questions in writing to Staff that they would like
the developer to cover.
Don Peterson, 2341 Oakwood Drive, asked what a
baffled wehr is. Mr. Thatcher explained what it is
and it's purpose.
Duane McCarty, 8060 Long Lake Road, asked how was the
volume, elevation and rate and direction of flow
of the ground water determined for the area, and
whether it would have a minimal displacement effect.
He also asked where the ground water monitoring wells
were placed, and stated he would like to see the
developer use the checklist that was put together
many years ago for developments of this typ
Mr. Senden replied he had been told by the City that
the checklist was not required, and other developers
have not been required to use it in the past. He
added that he would be willing to use it, but he
believes everything is covered by ordinance that is
contained in the checklist.
Mr. Thatcher stated the ground water is not required
to be determined, but the direction of flow is, and
they installed 27 monitoring wells for that purpose.
Mounds View City Council August 24, 1987
Regular Meeting Page Ten
Mr. Senden explained how the readings were taken and
the projections made
Motion /Second: Quick /Hank:ler to set a public hearing
for the preliminary plat for Greenfield Estates for
7:05 PM on September 14, 1987.
5 ayes
0 nays Motion Carried
Mayor Linke closed the regular meeting and opened the 10. Public Hearing:
next public hearing at 10:13 PM. Intoxicating
Liquor License
Clerk /Administrator Pauley reported Mr. Povlitzki Application of
has provided both an exterior plan and interior Richard
floor plan. He stated that electrical, plumbing, Povlitzki, for
building, fire and health inspections have been done, POV's, 2400
and while all the reports are back, they must County Rd H2
make sure Mr. Povlitzki is aware of what work is
necessary to bring the building up to code. He
added that Mr. Povlitzki has provided the certificate
of insurance and the bond that is required by the
State Insurance Commissioner, and the Police Depart-
ment has provided a report, as is required by Code.
Mr. Povlitzki stated he had met with the various
'inspectors earlier in the day and is aware of the
work that has to be done.
Councilmember Hankner reviewed some of the information
listed in the Police report.
Mr. Povlitzki stated that Bob Waste will be coming
into the business with him as a partner, and he will
be coming in soon to make the application.
Mr. Povlitzki reviewed the plans he presented to the
Council, showing where he plans 4 to 6 foot high berming
and where the parking will be.
Mayor Linke asked whether the berming or plantings
could be continued along County Road H2 to control the
cars that try to drive out across there.
Councilmember Wuori stated she was concerned with the
street opening onto County Road H2, since it is so
close to Greenfield Avenue and could present problems,
and she asked whether it could be more centrally located
along County Road H2.
Mr. Povlitzki replied the road is quite a bit higher
than the parking lot, and the cars would have to come
out very fast to be able to make it. He also pointed
out that it would be expensive to move the opening,
and Donatelle's is allowed to have their entire parking
lot open onto County Road H2.
Mounds View City Council August 24, 1987
Regular Meeting Page Eleven
Councilmember Hankner asked how much seating is planned
for the dining area, as well as in the bar.
Mr. Povlitzki replied there would be 25 to 30 tables for
4 in the dining room, and he is not sure how much seating
is available in the bar compared to the dining room. He
added the original fire capacity was listed as 887 people,
and he plans for the new design to provide for 250 to
300 people.
Councilmember Hankner stated she was hesitant to take
any action yet, until all the reports are in.
Mr. Povlitzki stated he would appreciate no longer delay
than necessary. He added he will be meeting the require-
ments given him by all the inspectors.
Clerk /Administrator Pauley stated the Council could
issue a license contingent upon having a certificate
of occupancy issued.
Mr. Povlitzki stated they would be having a full menu
for the dining room, to include steak, chicken, shrimp
and ribs.
Mayor Linke explained a full menu is required before
the City will issue a liquor license.
Bill Buckingham, 5220 Greenfield, criticized the Council
for how they have handled this matter. He stated he
did not get a notice of the public hearing until two
days ago, and it was scheduled on the agenda for 7:25 PM
and did not start until 10:16 PM. He also stated there
should be adequate seating and speakers in the hallway
so everyone can hear.
Mayor Linke explained the public hearings are scheduled
for a specific time to start but the Council will not cut
people off, and they cannot predict how long each hearing
will last. He added that the Council chamber has
adequate seating for most discussions, and they have looked
into purchasing speakers, but it would be very expensive.
Councilmember Hankner added the tinning of the hearings is
very difficult, as it is hard to judge how many people
will be coming on an issue.
Mr. Buckingham asked what Mr. Povlitzki's prior businesses
in Mounds View were, and whether there were any Police
calls on those businesses.
Mr. Povlitzki stated he has been involved in Loose Ends
and the Anchor Inn, and that the Police were called at
various times.
Mounds View City Council August 24, 1987
Page Twelve
Regular Meeting
Mayor Linke read portions of the Police report
regarding the types of calls they have had over the
past three years on Mr. Povlitzki's businesses.
Clerk /Administrator Pauley explained it is the policy
of the Police Department that they want calls from
the liquor establishments, before a situation has a
chance to become a real problem.
Mr. Buckingham asked if it was possible to have trees
planted along Greenfield Avenue.
Mr. Povlitzki replied that area would be used for
parking, if necessary, so he would not be planting
trees there.
Ron Donsetts, 2449 Clearview, asked if there would be
any change in noise levels, as he has been able to
hear the music in his bedroom for the last two operations
that were in there.
Mr. Povlitzki replied he will not be running that type
of entertainment, and will not be having hard rock.
He added he will maintain the property as necessary, as
far as mowing, picking up litter, and so forth.
Bill Zwieg, 5309 Greenfield, stated he is concerned with
people walking out across the berm and into the residents
yards, and he would like to see a fence.
Mayor Linke replied a berm is more esthetically pleasing,
and Mr. Povlitzki has stated he would like to have a
berm with plantings.
Mr. Donsetts stated he has walked past the property many
times and found people out in back drinking and using
drugs, and sweating and so forth, and he would like to
see a fence, as well as improved lighting.
Robert Weinert, 2426 Clearview, stated he has lived in
his home for 10 years and has had many problems with
the establishments in that building. He stated he does
not fes1 the City has enough information to grant a
liquor license now, and he would like the Council to
investigate this further. He added the applicant should
be required to meet all the code requirements and
inspections.
Councilmember Hankner stated the City will also have to
check into the background of the partner Mr. Povlitzki
is proposing. She asked Attorney Meyers if any conditions
could be put on the liquor license, such as hours of
operation of the restaurant, and so forth.
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4Ik Attorney Meyers replied all conditions would have to
be in the ordinance and be uniform with all similar
businesses in the City. He added he has informed
Mr. Povlitzki and his attorney that the City would
like to return as close as possible to the restaurant
operation that was originally run in that location,
with liquor being incidental.
Mr. Zwieg asked whether the previous owner was suing
the City.
Attorney Meyers replied he has heard they are consider-
ing a lawsuit, as the City took away their liquor
license.
Mr. Zwieg asked why the taxpayers should have to pay
legal fees to get the operations closed down.
Attorney Meyers replied the property owners have rights
also, and the zoning is proper for what Mr. Povlitzki
has requested.
Mr. Povlitzki also pointed out that times change and
with it the types of businesses.
=Attorney Meyers pointed out that Mr. Povlitzki is aware
that he will be watched closely by the City and will
have to conform.
Tim White, 5249 Greenfield, stated the City had the
same problem for several years with the past owner
and stated the Council should be on top of the situation
from the very beginning and make sure the problems do
not repeat.
Mayor Linke answered that while the City cannot provide
assurances there won't be problems, they can keep a
close eye on the operation.
Councilmember Hankner reviewed the history of problems
with the previous owner, and why the Council did not
reissue the liquor license to him.
Mr. White asked the Council to rezone the property to
get a better type of business there.
Mr. Povlitzki stated he was more than willing to sell
the property to the residents, and they could open what-
ever business they would like, or knock down the building
if they wanted to. He said he'd gladly sell if he could
just break even on what he owes at this point. He added
that he must have the business open to generate an income.
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Regular Meeting Page Fourteen
Jerry Blanchard, 8005 Groveland Road, stated he
would encourage the residents of the area to go to
Povlitzki's in Spring Lake Park, and observe what
a good operation that is.
Mayor Linke asked what the City's liability would
be if they downzone the property.
Attorney Meyers replied there could be some liability,
and they would have to prove damages and show a
taking of valuable property. He added this will be
Mr. Povlitzxi's operation and he will have to provide
assurances, and he knows the City will be looking at
the operation again in a year, at the time of
relicensing.
Mark Raffe, 5255 Greenfield, stated County Road H2 and
Highway 10 seems to have a large number of incidents
involving the Police, as well as a high concentration of
liquor establishments, and he is concerned with the public
safety in that location.
Robert Weinert, 2426 Clearview, stated he would like to
see the seating in the restaurant and bar sections be
of equal number.
Mr. Donsetts stated he feels there is no safe way to
commute around this establishment, as people in back
often throw things at people walking by at night.
Glen Anderson, 5250 Greenfield, asked if the City has
to issue a license, and stated he does not want a
liquor license issued there.
Mayor Linke replied they do not have to issue a license
but they would have to have very good reasons for not
doing so.
Stu Rothberger, 5200 Greenfield, stated when the zoning
is correct, the property owners have rights, and he also
pointed out that most of the people in the neighborhood
purchased their property knowing that the vacant land
would most likely be developed into something other than
residential.
Larry Wasick, 5280 Edgewood, stated he had signed a
petition when the Anchor Inn originally went in, and he
would like to see what the original intent of the petition
was. He stated the Council has a duty and right to see
that the original intent is fulfilled. He also pointed
out that if Mr. Povlitzki has already brought in his 150
loads of fill, he must feel confident that the Council
is going to grant him a license.
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Regular Meeting Page Fifteen
411 Councilmember Hankner stated the residents can
petition for anything, but the Council must make
their decisions and weigh all factors and do what
they feel is right.
Mayor Linke stated the Council had set up the process
of holding public hearings for liquor license renewals
in order to hear any concerns the citizens have.
Ron Michna, 5287 Edgewood Drive, stated Mr. Povlitzki
had owned the property at one time and sold it to
Mr. Conroy, and he now has it back and has brought in
Mr. Waste to manage it. He stated he would like the
problems nipped in the bud now. He pointed out the
City has spent thousands of dollars on ti v pipeline
issue because two people lost their lives, and he asked
if the City would do the same if two people were killed
in a car accident because of a drunk driver from this
establishment. Mr. Michna stated Mr. Povlitzki has
not tried to do anything different than a liquor
operation. He also stated he has a problem with the
way the Police Department handles the situation, in
that they observe what is going on but will not do
anything unless a citizen is willing to sign a complaint.
Sharon White, 5241 Greenfield, asked what would be
lapplaced along Greenfield to prevent cars from driving
over the boulevard, and she asked if a left turn only
onto Greenfield could be possible.
Mr. Povlitzki stated there are car stops along the
boulevard now that stop the cars from driving out.
Jeff Moe, 5284 Greenfield, stated he is the manager of
the apartment complex and has been for the past five
years, and they have had problems with the patrons of
the bar parking in the apartment complex lot.
Mr. Povlitzki replied the apartment residents also park
in his parking lot.
Paul Fedor, 2288 Knoll Drive, stated he feels
residents are trying to crucify Mr. Povlitzki
time, before he has even had a chance to turn
in the door. He added he feels the residents
owe Mr. Povlitzki a chance.
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David Carlstrom, 5297 Edgewood Drive, stated Mr. Povlitzki
had been in there for three years and there had been
almost as many problems with his operation as with
Muldoon's, and the same problems occurred with Mr. Povlitzki
then. He added he would be willing to sign complaints, and
he pointed out in the past some neighbors have been afraid
of signing complaints because of fear of reprisals. He
stated he is against issuance of the liquor license.
AllMr. Zwieg stated that it was his understanding when
IRFMr. Povlitzki purchased the building from the Anchor Inn
that it would continue to be a restaurant.
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Regular Meeting Page Sixteen
Mr. Povlitzki replied that he had agreed to serve
hamburgers and sandwiches, and have entertainment.
Bob Waste stated he had heard many complaints voiced
during the public hearing and they need to give he and
Mr. Povlitzki an opportunity to prove themselves. He
stated there are laws to be followed, and they will
do so.
Mayor Linke closed the public hearing and reopened
the regular meeting at 11:38 PM.
Motion /Second: Wuori /Blanchard to approve the
consent agenda as presented and waive the reading of
the resolutions.
5 ayes
Motion /Second: Hankner /Quick to have the first
reading of Ordinance No. 428, approving the 1987
long term financial plan, and waive the reading.
5 ayes
Motion /Second: Quick /Blanchard to approve Resolution 13. Approval of
No. 2225, approving a conditional use permit for Resolution
Willard and Marvis Haro, 7545 Pleasant View Drive, No. 2225
Mounds View Planning Case No. 218 -87, and waive
the reading.
5 ayes
Motion /Second: Quick /Hankner to table consideration
of Resolution No. 2226 and the first reading of
Ordinance No. 424 and Ordinance No. 425 until
September 14, 1987.
5 ayes 0 nays
11. Approval of
Consent Agenda
0 nays Motion Carried
12. 1st Reading of
Ordinance No.
428
0 nays Motion Carried
0 nays Motion Carried
Clerk /Administrator Pauley reviewed the request of
Kevin Mullins for a used auto sales license.
14. Consideration
of Resolution
No. 2226,
Ordinance Nos.
424 and 425
Motion Carried
15. Consideration
of Resolution
No. 2228
111Motion/Second: Hankner Wuori to approve Resolution
No. 2228, approving a used auto sales license to
Kevin Mullins, dba Mid American Auto, and waive the
reading.
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5 ayes 0 nays
Finance Director Brager reported proposed Ordinance
No. 427 had been prepared pursuant to Council
direction, and reviewed the purpose of the ordinance.
He added it would require a 4/5 vote to pass.
Motion /Second: Blanchard /Hankner to approve the
first reading of Ordinance No. 427, repealing
Chapter 20, Public Improvement Revolving Fund, and
waive the reading.
5 ayes 0 nays
Attorney Meyers had no report.
Councilmember Blanchard had no report.
Councilmember Wuori had no report.
Councilmember Quick had no report.
Councilmember Hankner had no report.
Mayor Linke reported the Park and Rec department had
hosted the State womens slow pitch softball tournament
the past weekend and it had gone very well, thanks to
the Park and Rec department and Public Works department.
It was the concensus of the Council to continue
discussion Mr. Povlitzki's request for a liquor license
at the September 8 agenda session.
Clerk /Administrator Pauley reviewed the bids received
recently for the Public Works garage addition.
Mayor Linke pointed out that all the savings would be
based on the Public Works crew doing the specified work
and he asked if Staff has the time to do that amount of
work.
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Page Seventeen
Motion Carried
16. Consideration
of Ordinance
No. 427
Motion Carried
17. Report of
Attorney
18. Reports of
Councilmembers:
Councilmember
Blanchard
Councilmember
Wuori
Councilmember
Quick
Councilmember
Hankner
Mayor Linke
19. Report of
Clerk/
Administrator
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Regular Meeting Page Eighteen
S Public Works Foreman Rose replied they would be able
to get it done, and the general contractor would not
be held up with anything he was doing because of the
work Staff would be doing.
Mayor Linke asked if vinyl tile could be used in place
of quarry tile.
Mr. Rose replied it is not as maintainable, and that
while quarry tile may cost more, in the long run it
will hold up much better to the wear and tear that
will occur.
Councilmember Quick states' he would like to see painted
concrete floors, with no carpet or quarry tile, which
would eliminate alternates A5 and A7.
Motion /Second: Quick /Blanchard to accept the low bid
of Cottonwood Construction, and all alternates, with
the exception of A5 and A7, and stipulate a painted
concrete floor.
5 ayes 0 nays
Clerk /Administrator Pauley reported that City Planner
Becky Balk had quit after only 21 weeks on the job,
and he requested Council authorization to hire the
second choice from the original interviews, Kim
Herman.
Motion /Second: Linke /Quick to hire Kimberly Herman
as City Planner at a starting salary of $28,000, with
an increase of $1,000 at 3 months, and another $1,000
at 6 months, to begin September 14, 1987.
5 ayes
0 nays Motion Carried
Clerk /Administrator Pauley reported the rebid of
estimates on the traffic signals for County Road I
and Quincy had still come in high, and the County
would like authorization to go ahead. He stated
the superintendent from the school district wants to
look at it, and he will prepare a resolution for
the Council's consideration at their September 14
meeting.
Clerk /Administrator Pauley reported that James
Larson, who lives on Long Lake Road and works for
Kraus Anderson, has recently had a great deal of
fill put in his yard, which is in a wetland buffer
zone, and he has an opportunity for more dirt and would
like a quick decision from the Council if he can go
ahead.
Motion Carried
It was the concensus of the Council not to issue a
permit at this time, and have Dan Boxrud look at it.
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Regular Meeting Page Nineteen
Clerk /Administrator Pauley reported work on County
Road I would begin on August 26, beginning at 35W
and moving west, and the road will be closed to all
but local traffic.
Clerk /Administrator Pauley reported he will be on
vacation the week of August 31, and Don Brager will
be acting on his behalf.
Mayor Linke adjourned the meeting at 12:12 AM. 20. Adjournment
Respectfully submitted,
Donald F. Pauley
Clerk /Administrator