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CITY OF MOUNDS VIEW
RAMSEY COUNTY, MINNESOTA
Regular Meeting.
August 9, 1993
Mounds View City Hall
2401 Hwy. 10, Mounds View, MN 55112
CALL TO ORDER
The Mounds View City,Council was called to order by Mayor Linke at 7:00 p.m.
on Monday, August 9, 1993.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The Pledge of Allegiance was said.
OLL CALL
MEMBERS PRESENT:, Mayor Linke, Councilmembers Wuori, Blanchard,
and Quick.
ALSO PRESENT: Samantha Orduno, City Administrator;
Paul Harrington, City Planner; Tim
Cruikshank, Assistant to the City
Administrator
SPECIAL ORDER OF BUSINESS:
Mayor Linke introduced Resolution No. 4395 Commending the Festival Committee
and Community Participants in the 1993 !'Festival In The Park" Celebration
and asked Samantha Orduno, City Administrator, to read the resolution. The
resolution was read.
Mayor Linke and Councilmember Wuori commented that after not having a
Festival In Two Years, an excellent job was done on this event.,
VOTE: 4 ayes 0 nays Motion Carried
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
MOTIONjSECOND: Quick/Wuori to approve minutes of July 26, 1993,
Council Meeting as presented.
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RESIDENTS REQUESTS AND COMMENTS FROM THE FLOOR
There were no resident requests or comments at this meeting.
CONSENT AGENDA
Samantha Orduno, City Administrator, read the Consent Agenda. Orduno asked
that a license, Northern Asphalt, Inc., which is a new license, be added for
approval to the Consent Agenda.
Mayor Linke asked if there were any items the Council desired removed from
the Consent Agenda. There were no items removed.
MOTION/SECOND: Blanchard/Quick to adopt the Consent Agenda as amended.
VOTE: 4 ayes 0 nays Motion Carried
PUBLIC HEARINGS•
a. Consideration of Revocation of Conditional Use Permit at_3030_Count
Road J - Mayor Linke opened-the public hearing at 7:.05 p.m. Paul
Harrington, City Planner, stated that he had contacted the City
Attorney to request his attendance at the Council Meeting, however,
• City Attorney was unable to attend and, therefore, Harrington asked
that this item be tabled to the next regularly scheduled Council
Meeting which is September 23, 1993.
Mayor Linke polled the Council and stated that this public hearing
would be continued to the August 23, 1993, regular Council Meeting.
b. Consideration of Variance Request (parking reduction] at 2840 Hiahwav
Simon T. Simon - Mayor Linke opened the public hearing at 7:06 p.m.
Paul Harrington, City Planner, explained that the final parking plan
for the property at 2840 Highway l0 was not ready for consideration at
this evening's meeting. Mr. Harrington recommended that, in order to
allow for adequate review of the proposed parking configuration on the
parcel, this item be tabled to the August 23, 1993, regular Council
Meeting.
Mayor Linke polled the Council and stated that this public hearing
would be continued to the August 23, 1993, regular Council Meeting.
c. Consideration of 1993 Long Term Financial Plan - Mayor Linke opened the
public hearing at 7:07 p.m. Samantha Orduno, City Administrator,
explained that the Long Term Financial Plan is a blueprint for the
future plans for the City giving estimates of programming, services and
staff needs for the next five years. The development of the Long Term
Financial Plan is a long process which begun in April of this year.
Staff makes many drafts before the final draft is accomplished. There
were four drafts drawn up this year. One fact that became crystal
clear is that at some point in the near future monies which fund the
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capital expenditures will no longer be there. At both the Focus 2000
forums and the strategic planning sessions held in March,
recommendations were put forth on how best to meet the expenditures
facing the .City.. Some staffing projects included in the 1994 budget had
to be eliminated. The Long Term Financial. Plan and the 1994 budget are
very interlinked. The Long Term Financial Plan serves as a guideline.
The items listed on the Long Term Financial Plan will be met at some
point in the future, but not necessarily in the order that they have
been projected. The Council committed that the .Focus 2000 will be the
force that will decide what will or will not happen in-the future.
Orduno reported that Ordinance No. 530 Adopting the Long Term Financial
Plan was inadvertently omitted from the Council Packet, but was hand
delivered to the meeting and is included for consideration at this
evening's Council Meeting. The Long Term Financial Plan will be
considered for action at the August 23, 1993 regular Council Meeting.
MOTION/SECOND•
Introduction of
Plan
VOTE•
• COUNCIL BUSINESS
Quick/Wuori to Waive the Reading and Approve the
Ordinance No. 530 Adopting the 1993 Long Term Financial
4 ayes 0 nays Motion Carried
A. Tim Cruikshank, Assistant to the City Administrator, reviewed Staff
Report No. 93-583C regarding Resolution No. 4396 Authorizing Staff to
Proceed with City Hall Building Project and a Transfer of Funds to
Account No, 697-3961. Cruikshank reported that for the past several
years upgrading of City Hall has been considered to make it amore
efficient and effective office building for daily operations.
Cruikshank stated that with the passage of the Federal American's with
Disabilities Act in 1990, this upgrade has .become more urgent because
of the need to comply with this law.
Cruikshank reported that the main features of the project include the
upgrading of the downstairs restrooms to make them accessible to the
disabled, adding a police garage, refurbishing the existing Police
office area. and .utilizing the old water treatment area for expanded
office space.
Cruikshank reported that the project cost is estimated at $501,000
"and that the City Hall building project fund currently has $371,000.
The difference is $130,000. Cruikshank stated that the City Finance
Director, Don Brager, recommended funds be transferred from Water,
Sewer or General Funds to the City Hall Expansion Fund. It was stated
that $31,250 could be transferred in 1993 and 1994 from the Water fund
and depending on the revenue status of the Sewer Fund,- either $31,250
• could be transferred in 1993 and 1994 or the $31,could be transferred
.from the General Fund in 1993 and 1994.
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Cruikshank also requested that an additional $20,000 be transferred
from the undesignated funds available in budget reserves to-the City
Ha11 Building Project Fund to cover an miscellaneous expenses that may
not. have been accounted for. Cruikshank reported that the intention
would be to transfer any unused funds back to the appropriate Fund
Accounts on a prorated basis.
MOTSON/SECOND: Wuori/Blanchard to Adopt Resolution No. 4396
Authorizing Staff to Proceed with City Ha11 Building Project and
A Transfer of Funds to Account No. 697-3961
Julie Trude, 8391 Knollwood Drive, stated that two years ago the cost
for the expansion was $250,000, last July it was $350,000 and now the
cost for this expansion would be $500,000. Trude asked why the amount
for this project has increased.
Orduno explained that this is an estimated amount. Bids could come in
low. There is also a 20~ contingency factored into the cost .which
adds to the total cost, of the project.
Orduno also explained that the bathroom downstairs does not meet the
American's With Disabilities Act and must be brought into compliance.
• The City does not have enough water closets to meet ADA requirements
for the size of the building after new construction.
Julie Trude commented that these are sensitive issues for the taxpayers
and taking $30,000 from the water and sewer fund to improve City Hall
will only aggravate them more.
Orduno explained that this project will not include the purchase of-any
new desks, chairs, or office furniture other than some small petitions
to be placed around existing furniture. This project includes a basic
building. Orduno further explained that there is no conference room
space at a11. Orduno explained the problems that constantly crop up
with regards to having no conference room space. The new construction
will add three conference rooms. One of those con€erence rooms will be
a community conference room-that can be used by City groups. Orduno
explained that the Council Chambers are used every night of the week by
organizations such as 55 Alive, Met Council,. HRA and the Scouts. Staff
is at a distinct disadvantage when it comes to availability of a
conference area .
Julie Trude stated that the conference rooms are justified and that
staff areas in the existing building are crowded. This is a very
sensitive time for the taxpayers with the start up of the golf course
and other items that are being considered at this time.
Mayor Linke commented that this upgrade has been under. consideration
for a couple of years.
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Julie Trude asked what the timeline is for the building expansion.
Cruikshank stated that ground will be broke in October and final
construction would be completed in February of 1994.
Orduno stated that no time is a good time and that the .City is trying
to comply with state and .federal laws. The upgrade will cost more in.
the future and in the meanwhile the City jeopardizes its viability by
not being in compliance with the ADA requirements.
VOTE: 4 ayes 0 nays Motion Carried
B. Tim Cruikshank, Assistant to the City Administrator, reviewed Staff
Report No. 93-584C regarding Resolution No. 4397 Establishing Issue
Project Teams for FOCUS 2000 Public Forums. Cruikshank reported that
over 100 people attended the July 21st and 22nd Focus 2000 public
forums held at Edgewood Middle School to address the issues which
concerned them for Mounds Views future. Several critical issues were
identified and those issues have been combined to form five main topic
issues. The topic issues are public transit systems, City government
and demographics, housing and neighborhoods, environment, parks,
recreation and leisure and growth, development and business. These
issue topics will serve as the basis for the next step which is to
create Issue Project Teams. Cruikshank explained the charge of the
Issue Project Teams.
MOTION/SECOND: Wuori/Quick to Adopt Resolution No. 4397 Establishing 5
Zssue Project Teams Developed from Issues Identified by the
Participants of the FOCUS 2000 Forums
Mayor Linke stated that he had attended both meetings. Linke reported
that the meetings were well attended and that he was excited about the.
outcome of the meetings. -Mayor Linke stated that he is looking forward
to the outcome of the issue groups and stated that there is a need for
approximately 35 persons to volunteer to be a part of a study group and
to set aside a great deal of time for this task.
Cruikshank explained that a report summarizing the issues will be
mailed out to residents who attended the forum or who returned the
comment cards by the end of the week. Study groups will be formed by
mid-September.
VOTE: 4 ayes 0 nays Motion Carried
C. Mayor Linke stated that with regards to the setting of the Public
Hearing considering Ordinance No. 528, Repeal of Sunset Clause for
Street Light Utility, the time would be 7:08 p.m. on August 23, 1993,
rather that 7:06 p.m., because of two public hearings being continued
to that date from tonight~s meeting..
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D. Samantha Orduno, City Administrator, reviewed Staff Report No. 93-5$6C
regarding the Introduction of Ordinance No. 529 Establishing a Surface
Water Management Utility and Amending Mounds View Municipal Code by
Adding Chapter 73. Orduno stated that the Surface Water Management
Utility had been discussed for a number of years and that on June 21,
1993 the City Council conducted an informational meeting on the
proposed Surface Water Management Utility. The informational meeting
was preceded by four Council meetings in which the utility concept had
been discussed with other financing options. The City Council
conducted an official public hearing on the proposed Surface Water
Management Utility on July 28, 1993.
Orduno stated that the reason for this utility is that .the City can no
longer fund all basic system services based exclusively on the dollar
value of property. Orduno explained that the old concepts that were
once so much a part of funding municipal operations and based on
property taxes have given way, out of financial necessity and social
demands, to more equitable "user" fee concepts that place
responsibility and payment for services onto the users of a system, not
just the taxable property owners. Orduno stated that this a fair and
equitable means of funding the kinds of projects that need top priority
attention.
Orduno stated that Rocky Keene, Short-Elliott-Hendrickson, was present
at tonight's meeting to answer any questions that the residents might
have.
Orduno also reported that during the FOCUS 2000 meetings some of the.
items brought forth were to .maintain a quality water system, to
maintain wetlands and provide services in a fair and equitable manner.
Orduno also reported that this item will be put on the August 23, 1993
agenda for consideration.
Mayor Linke stated that there had been one informational meeting and
,one public hearing on this item already. This item was discussed at
four work sessions and at many meetings last year.
Orduno added that the ordinance establishing the utility would be
considered at this time and at a future Council Meeting a resolution
utility would be considered to establish the fees for the utility.
This ordinance would be very similar to the water and sewer utility.
This source of funding is becoming a national trend.
Mayor Linke stated that in the past he had been opposed to a utility,
however, after .looking at the costs for property taxes to residents and
small business, i.e., the cost of ad valorem taxes would be twice the
amount as the utility fee. The utility is set up so that those that
provide the most runoff to the system will be the ones that will be
paying the higher fees. The utility is the best way to collect funds
and put them into a fund that would be used to solve some of the
problems with the surface water runoff.
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Councilmember Blanchard stated that she recalls that in 1991 there were
several meetings regarding this subject. These meetings ,were highly
publicized -- special flyers were sent out, articles were present in
the newsletter and public notification was made in the newspapers.
Blanchard stated that she attended those meetings and the overwhelming
wishes of the people in attendance was not to have a utility.
In February of 1991, Blanchard stated that because the adoption of a
Surface Water Management Plan was mandated to be in place, a resolution
was adopted to approve the Plan with the stipulation that all
references to a utility be stricken. The resolution passed on a 3/2
vote. Blanchard recalls that at that same time, it was announced that
there would be no implementation of the Plan until there was some
funding from the state or federal government.
Councilmember Blanchard stated that, in her opinion, the informational
meeting held in July was not highly publicized. There were no special
notices sent to the City's "stakeholders" regarding the public hearing.
The informational meeting was very poorly attended. Councilmember
Blanchard stated that the Council is not listening to the people and
that it is deplorable. Therefore, Councilmember Blanchard encouraged
the Council to vote no on the Surface Water Management Utility until
the citizens are better informed and have the opportunity for more
.public input.
Mayor Linke stated that he concurred with part of Councilmember
Blanchard's statement, but stated that if the City doesn't look at the
future and plan for the future the City will have the same problems in
twenty years as it does now. There needs to be a solution to the
problem of financing the projects that need to be accomplished and the
City will not receive any funding .from the-state or federal government.
It will be up to the City to solve the problems and find a way to
financially take care of them.
Councilmember Blanchard stated, in her opinion, the City has not given
the citizens the opportunity to voice their opinions and concerns on
this utility. There needs to be more public input before the. Council
makes a decision on this utility.
Mayor Linke stated that the public was informed regarding the meetings
on this utility. Linke stated that he announced the meeting on cable
during one of his programs and that it was well publicized~~on the
outside sign board and in various other places. Mayor Linke stated
that one cannot go get the citizens from their homes and bring them to
the meetings.
Richard F. Wolens, owner of North Suburban
Minnesota Business Association stated that
is down and sales and revenues are down for
store and the liquor store in the shopping
restaurants.
Schwinn and President of the
traffic flow
his business, the hardware
center as well as the
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At a time when the businesses are having problems .the City Council is
trying to revoke the sunset clause which was placed on the streetlight
utility as a stop gap or check and balance,
Mr. Wolens stated that the Council is constantly attempting to increase
the cost of doing business in Mounds View. Mr. Wolens stated that it
is more costly to do business in Mounds View than it is in Blaine and
in many other cities. The City of Mounds View is constantly spending
more money. Mr. Wolens stated that if the City continues to do this
with the revenue numbers down, there will be an increased number of
businesses vacant in the City of Mounds View. Mr. Wolens encouraged
the Council. to stop spending money as the businesses cannot afford it.
Mayor Linke stated that there is a problem in the City with surface
water and that every time it rains there is standing water. Linke
asked Mr. Wolens what the City should do, let it stand or let the
system back up and don't make any plans to fix it or put any money away
for repair of the system.
Wolens stated that the major area of concern should be the Highway 10
corridor. Wolens asked if when the County or State turns over part of
the highway to .the City, it will be fixed, correct?
Mayor Linke explained that when the highway is turned over it will be
turned over as is.
Wolens stated that the businessmen are paying the majority of .the fees.
The Federal government will get 15°s of the business lunches and this
will severely affect the restaurants in the area. This type of cause
and effect hurts the businesses. Mr. Wolens stated that part of the
utility franchise fee is increased overtime for the code enforcement
officers.
Wolens commented that the business owners in Mounds View will pay the
majority of this fee because Mounds View requires them to put in
much larger parking lots than does the cities of Blaine or Spring Lake
Park.
Mayor Linke stated that he deals with those numbers every day. Linke
asked Mr. Wolens to propose a way to pay for the repairs of the storm
water system.
Wolens asked how many problems the City have with surf ace .water runoff.
Mayor Linke reported that there were three homes in the Ardan area
flooded out during the last heavy rainfall and that there are problems
in the entire Ardan area.
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Wolens suggested bulldozing down the three homes, buying the property
owners out and relocate them.
Mayor Linke asked if all homes in the Ardan drainage district should be
bulldozed because there are water problems.
Mr. Wolens stated whichever is the most economic way to save money for
this community..
Mayor Linke stated that. the City is looking for a Long term way to
raise funds to solve the problems.. This would have to be done with
property taxes or user fees.
Wolens stated that if the City .continues to tax the businesses so heavy
businesses will become vacant, real estate taxes will go down,
property values will go down and the City will decay.
Duane McCarty, 8060 Long Lake Road, asked how the storm water drainage
fund will be incorporated into this utility.
Mayor Linke responded that those funds will be placed into the utility
• fund.
Mr. McCarty asked if future charges for storm water drainage paid by
the developers at the time of permitting would be credited so that
two charges wouldn't be made to the developers.
Mayor Linke stated that the City is 98~ built out. Mayor Linke stated
that monies received from developers would not be enough to fund the
necessary projects for the future.
McCarty asked, if this ordinance would go into affect what happens to
the old formula. process under the old Storm Water Drainage charge.
Mayor Linke stated that the old formula charge would nvt be negated.
The ordinance allows our Council to set up an adjustment or credit for
those kinds of cases. Past Surface Water Management Utility charges
will be credited against the Surface Water Management charges. Mayor
Linke stated the Storm Water Management past and future process will
not change for those developments.
Mayor Linke stated that this problem has not come up and arrangements
could be made for a credit for a future developer.
Mayor Linke stated that the Storm Drainage money will go into the same
fund. The City needs to find a mechanism to find dollars because there
is not enough money in the existing fund to fund work that is going on
at this time.
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Duane McCarty stated that he understood that the City was 98~ built
out, but building will not cease on vacant land. The City is looking
at intensive retrofitting and rehabilitation in certain areas. McCarty
stated that there is always another project to be built that will
trigger Storm Drainage or Surface Water Management funds.
McCarty stated that the utility seems to take on one small area of
the City and, in his opinion, there should be a more wholistic approach
which would encompass the entire City. It appears that this Surface
Water Management Utility revolves around one small area of the City.
McCarty quoted some tenets from the Metro Water Management Act of 1982.
Mayor Linke stated that this utility would provide.a financing plan to
include projects throughout the entire City. There were many projects
identified.
Rocky Keene, Short-Elliott-Hendrickson, reported that seven to ten
projects had been identified in .the Plan.
McCarty stated that he would be very interested, in seeing a-Plan
that the Council had developed to improve Surface Water Management
when the Lonq Term Financial Plan starts out with a small portion of
the City. McCarty stated that many people were given permission to
build on a swamp and later yelled, "Get me out of the water."
McCarty further stated that there is one point that he would like to
make and. that is that there needs to be trust between the City Council
and the citizens of the community. The Council. stated in the 5 ear
Goal Program booklet that was mailed out to the residents that the
citizens of the City of Mounds View will have the opportunity to set
the direction the City will take now and into the next century and
encouraged the residents or stakeholders to come forward and be part of
these goals.
On page 6 of the Action Steps in this booklet it states, "implement the
surface water management plan through adoption of funding mechanisms
and approval of necessary capital outlays." The Council is preempting
that trust with the adoption of Ordinance No. 529.
Mayor Linke stated that the Surface Water Management Plan was adopted
in 1991 and had been spoken about several times at meetings and that
the Plan is a city-wide concept plan.
McCarty commented that the .implementation plan is missing.
Mayor Linke stated that the projects listed in the Plan may not be
accomplished when scheduled, but at some time in the future will
be completed.
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Bi11 Frits, 8072 Long Lake Road, stated that the people on Arlon
have had water problems for the last 40 years. These persons purchased
land, walked it, stuck their foot it in and now want someone to get
their feet out of the mud.
Mr. Frits asked how the Council is planning to research water
management when the best people in the world, the Army Corps of
Engineers, are scrambling to get the egg of their face and are working
on i.t. There will be many .changes made to water management. The plans
that the City makes will get changed.
Mayor Linke stated that the City will need to maintain storm water
detention ponds, clean catch basins, do street sweeping and these items
will be paid for by the utility.
McCarty commented that this Plan focuses around one small project.
Mayor Linke stated that the City_Council is trying to fund the entire
plan, not just one small area.
McCarty stated that in the 1993 Long Term Financial Plan there is
$101,000 to be taken from the Surface Water Management Fund, which is
not in place, but found its way into the 1993 Plan for work on Ardan
Avenue in 1994.
Mayor Linke stated that the idea is planning for the future.. Items may
not happen in the year scheduled but the Long Term Financial Plan is
used for planning of projects that need to be accomplished. Mayor Linke
stated that when Mr. McCarty was Mayor of the City some of his plans
also didn't happen.
McCarty stated that something that he helped to create for projects did
happen when he was Mayor and that was the creation of the Home Rule
Charter which helped protect. the citizens against a spend free Council.
One element .created in Chapter 8 under assessment procedures allowed.
for referendum and initiation.
Charles Hall, Mermaid Supper Club, stated that if there is a-water
problem in the City it should be taken care of. Mr. Hall stated that
those who create the problem should pay for the solution to it. Mr.
Hall indicated that residents should pay their fair share. Businesses
pay more real estate taxes. In 1978, Charles Hall was assessed for
$10,000 to take care of any sewer work that had to be taken care of in
Mounds View regarding his business. Mr. Hall stated that the interest
rates have .more than doubled since that time. Mr. Hall asked, if the
money isn't spent, could he have a credit for $20,000 to take care of
him. Mr. Hall stated that the Surface Water runoff from the Mermaid
goes into two weirs which go under County Road H2 and into the creek.
Mr. Hall stated that he is interested to see how much he will pay. Mr.
Hall stated that he agrees with Councilmember Blanchard in that the
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more input from the public is needed before the Council passes this
ordinance regarding the utility. Mr. Hall said he was aware of the
FOCUS 2000 project. Mr. Hall stated that he has to tip his hat to the
persons responsible for conducting and putting together the FOCUS 2000
materials in that a very professional job was done. Mr. Hall. stated
that he didn't, attend the forums because of what had happened back a
few months ago regarding .the gas and electric franchise.
Mr. .Hall. stated that if the businessmen can help the City, everyone
should pull together., but Mr. Hall stated that he hopes that when it is
done people who live here as well as businesses are charged equally.
Mr. Hall stated that he called Samantha Orduno a few months ago to
discuss the possibility of increasing the size of his parking lot
because he put up a volleyball court. Mr. Hall stated that he cannot
afford to increase the lot now. Mr. Hall also stated that he had to
have a portion of his roof done due to leakage at a cost of $27,500.
Mr. Hall stated that he doesn't have any money and wished he could
assess everyone to help him pay for this repair.
Julie Trude stated that the capital
list. Trude suggested that letting
for would help.
Mayor Linke stated that on the list
looking at obtaining some land for
Ardan area is proposed. There is a
Plan.
projects have not been seen on a
people know what-they are paying
there is an item that the City is
~ holding area. Work on the
list of proposed projects in the
Rocky Keene sated that there were some ponding options and some
discharging of wetlands or wetland property treatment areas.
Julie Trude stated people are completely baffled and that these
expenditures need more justification. Trude suggested a list of the
projects be made available to the people.
Mayor Linke stated that the Plan provides a list. There is no priority
to the list. Some areas may be developed prior to others depending
upon other work being done in the area.
Julie Trude asked if the City is helping the developers build their
developments.
Mayor Linke stated that the City tries to piggy back whenever possible
such as in the Long Lake Road area which was provided for in the Plan.
By doing the project now approximately 50$ of the cost was saved when
combining the work with Ramsey County.
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Mayor Linke stated that in other areas maintenance such as street
sweeping and ditch cleaning will have to be completed and there isn't
enough money.
Julie Trude asked if the water fund has excess capita and it can be
transferred for the expansion of City Hall, why can't it be transferred
for these types of things?
Mayor Linke asked Ms. Trude to stop in to City Hall and find out what
the funds can be used for and how the funds are being used.
Julie Trude stated that she would feel better if she could see a list
of projects with price tags.
Mayor Linke stated that there should be a Storm Water Management Plan
at the counter.
Ms. Trude indicated that when she was at the hearing she did not see
one in City Hall.
Rocky Keene, Short-Elliott-Hendrickson went over a list of some of the-
. projects and their costs for the Storm Water Management Plan.
Peg Mountin, stated that in the Ardan area the builder was given
elevations on which to build the homes and the road was built later at
higher elevations. Ms. Mountin stated that the businesses should not be
responsible for areas where they have no input of surface water runoff.
The businesses are not contributors to the problem.
Mr. Keene stated that each and every part of the City has some
improvements listed in the Plan.. The projects listed in the Plan have
come about as a result of previous feasibility studies and were
identified prior to the Plan..
Peg Mountin suggested that perhaps the utility be based on Surface
Water Management Districts and those persons in the problem areas would
be responsible for the financing for those projects in those districts.
Mayor Linke stated that the water comes in from Ardan and if it could
flow straight through there would be no problem, however, the people
north and south of Ardan and in the middle fill, up the pipes. Who does
the City assess then? The problem is a system-wide problem.
Mayor Linke referred to Chapter 8 of the Home Rule Charter and stated
if the City did go through the assessment process in the Ardan area
someone from the southern part of the City could bring in a petition
against the process and could stop the process.
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Mayor Linke stated that the water problem is a City-wide problem and so
would the addition of this utility to the ad valorem taxes would then
become a City-wide problem. Taxpayers would be paying taxes plus
interest for twenty years.
Peg Mountin stated that nothing gives her more heart burn than to know
that she would have to pay taxes for something she did not contribute
to or be a benefactor of.
Ruth White, 2917 County Road I, stated that she is opposed to putting
everything on the utility bill. This type of tax belongs on the
property taxes. If on the property taxes, it can somewhat be
controlled and monitored and the low income persons can get a break on
their tax refund that can't be gotten with the utility.
Ms. White also asked if this was a permanent item and, if so, it
definitely belongs on the property taxes. Ms. White stated that this
utility is a little deceptive as there already is $180,000 in the
surface water fund.
Mayor Linke stated that this is money put into the fund by the
developers and that fund will only last for three years and will be
• gone.
Ms. White asked if this money will go into .the same fund.
Mayor Linke explained that this is another source of revenue for that
fund so the City can continue doing these projects and paying for them
out of that fund .
Ms. White stated that not everybody has a water problem. Ms. White
stated that the lady who. spoke previously had a good idea when she
stated that the persons with the problems should pay. Ms. White stated.
that the City shouldn't pay for the entire area. Ms. White asked how
the City knows how much runoff she produces and what kind of problem
she has.
Mayor Linke explained that there is a scientific guesstimate that is
made that measures the amount of runoff on certain land uses. Linke
stated that Ms. White's property and driveway is a little larger than
his, but he will pay the same amount as she does for the utility. Ms.
White stated that her runoff runs-into the lake and takes with it sand.
Mayor Linke explained that the sand goes into the pipes that drain into
the lake and that those pipes need to be cleaned as there is no weir to
filter out the sediment.
Ms. White stated that she is for putting the utility fee on the
property taxes so a tax refund could be obtained.
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Mayor Linke asked that Ms. White come in December and compliment the
Council on what a good job they are doing and thank the Council for
adding items on to their property taxes.
Duane McCarty stated that there is one element that he totally agrees
with an that is the pay-as-you-go philosophy. This prevents the City
from having a great deal of debt in the future.- Mr. McCarty stated
that in keeping faith with the citizens that the Surface Water
Management Utility. should have its trial during the FOCUS 2000 process
before all of the citizens which will give more of a public
notification than tonight. Mr. McCarty suggested that the Council
table this item and refer it to the FOCUS 2000 process to be thoroughly
aired in a public forum by the entire group of citizens in the
community rather than ramming it through quickly and out of the FOCUS
2000 process.
Mayor Linke stated that there had been many discussions, informational
meetings and public hearings on this issue and he stated that he did
not feel that the City was ramming it through.
Mr. McCarty stated that he was not talking about the subject, as the
subject had been around for a long time, but rather the fact that the
• Council was putting the vote through without first taking the subject
to the FOCUS 2000 groups.
Joel Sheldon, 5143 Red Oak Drive, understands that the City was
mandated to develop the plan and perhaps the utility fee is the best
way to go. Mr. Sheldon stated after looking over factors and fees the
businessmen are paying 317 more than the residential property owners.
Sheldon stated that he realized the businessmen would pay more, but not
317 more.
MOTION/SECOND: Quick/Wuori to waive the reading and approve the
Introduction of Ordinance No. 529 Establishing a Surface Water
Management Utility and Amending the Mounds View Municipal Code By
Adding Chapter 73
Mayor Linke stated that two weeks from now Ordinance No. 529 will be
brought up again. Mayor Linke stated that he has heard some things and
has some things to think about. Mayor. Linke stated he has some time to
look at these things before the 23rd.
VOTE:
3 ayes 1 nay
Motion Carried
' E. Samantha Orduno, City Administrator, reviewed Staff. Report No.
' 93-587C. The Senior Center Task Force has asked the participating
cities to consider appointing an additional member to the Task Force
considering the longevity of the Task Force and the many meetings that
the Task Force members are asked to attend. Orduno stated that every
member cannot attend every meeting and therefore, the Task Force, is
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asking that alternates be selected so that all meetings are attended
and represented by the City when unforseen absences occur.
Task Force Members serving from their given cities.
MOTIONISECOND: Linke/Quick to Appoint Diane Wuori as Alternate Member
with Voting Rights to the Regional Senior Center Task Force to Ensure
Full Task Force Representation by the City of Mounds View
VOTE.: 3 ayes 1 absention 0 nays Motion Carried
REPORTS
1. Report of Councilmembers:
Councilmember Blanc:
Councilmember Ouick
Councilmember Wuori
performances of the
member Wuori stated
to Mounds View High
2. Report of Mayor:
Mayor Linke
hard - No report.
- No report.
- Thanked everyone who attended the
"Fantasticks" and the performers. Council-
that the move of the production from Irondale
School did have an impact on the ticket sales.
Mayor Linke announced that the Special Election to fill the
vacated Councilmember position will be held on August 24, 1993.
Absentee ballot applications are available at City Hall or one can
call and have an application mailed out. Residents will be able
to absentee vote between 1:00 p.m. and 3:00 p.m. on Saturday,
August 21, 1993 and on Monday, August 23, 1993, City Hall hours
for absentee voting will be extended from 5:00 p.m. to 7:00 p.m.
Report of Administrator
Samantha Orduno, City Administrator, had no report, however,
indicated that she would be on vacation from the 10th to the 24th
of August and announced that Tim Cruikshank would be Acting City
Administrator in her absence.
Rep ort of Staff : No report
Rep ort of Attorney: The City Attorney-was not present at the meeting.
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ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business before this Council, Mayor Linke adjourned
the meeting at 9:07 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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Michele Severson
Recording Secretary
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