HomeMy WebLinkAboutgr000990_000040_pg167June 14, 1976 Page 7
The Revenue Sharing Public Hearing was recessed and Mayor Johnson
called to order the 9:03 p.m. public hearing on Public Improvement
Project 1975 -4A, Mounds View Square Shopping Center drainage.
Mayor Johnson asked Gerald Frisch to introduce his steno. Atty
Frisch stated that she is transcribing his minutes for him for
his personal record. Mayor Johnson stated that he would like to
call Council's attention to the fact that there is a steno taking
notes. The Mayor then asked Mr. Frisch for his comments regarding
the report. Further, he asked him if he did not promise to have
a response within 10 days?
Mr. Frisch replied that, yes, he did; but thought tonight would
be an adequate time. Mr. Frisch then introduced Robert M.
Gottsacker, 4826 Chicago, Minneapolis, the drainage engineer
for the shopping center development, and enumerated his credentials.
He stated that Mr. Gottsacker would respond to the preliminary
report.
Mr. Gottsacker spoke to the Council; he displayed a plat of the
shopping center development, revision date 8 -9 -73. He stated that
he was asked by the owners to look at the problem and give a
report to Council. He has had a survey crew in the ponds. He
stated the real problem is who is going to pay for the improvement
of the drainage ditch.
Last year there was flooding at this intersection. It was reported
to be due to the pond and the catch basin. The original design
criteria was to hold at a 100 year storm on the site and released
slowly. We did obtain a permit and met the requirements. One
of the things that caused the problem was just two driveways
were cut in, after his relationship with the project was over.
Mr. Paster did obtain permits from the state and met with their
requirements. The solution for June 20, 1974, was to provide an
outlet for the water that was trapped. Unfortunately, the culvert
was no more than 6" more than the grade. As plans developed
it became apparent it was necessary to lower the culvert to
provide better drainage. By lowering this culvert approximately
a foot a great deal more work and a great deal more cost was
created. This eventaully became the subject of a report of July,
1974. A trench was to be dug which requires much work to make
it acceptable to the Highway Dept. What was a simple solution
is now very expensive. Council did authorize us to go ahead and
there was some discussion about the letter Mr. Paster had written
to the Council. Finally on October 29 it was lowered 200 feet to
establish drainage out to the east. He went back and checked
and the two culverts have been lowered. A very deep ditch will
require more expense and the Highway Dept. recognized that with
the first major rain storm the curb will be washed away. It
is really a storm sewer in there, not a ditch anymore. The
really best engineering solution is to put a storm sewer in,
which adds another $10,000 to the project. The developer was
willing originally to pay his fair share of the costs - $6,500.
Much different from the $16- 20,000 we are talking about now. The
problem does exist, it has been admitted that we may have con-
tributed to it. But the solution forced upon us is astronomical