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so he could plow snow over it. Mr. Hall stated that he has no problems with the curb
he has presently and pointed out that County Road H has asphalt curbing on both sides.
Engineer Hubbard replied that the City does not have a firm policy to require concrete,
asphalt or no curbing at all but that he personally feels concrete curbs and gutters
are the best solution to solve either parking lot drainage or snow plowing problems.
He added that Perkins was required to put in concrete curbing, while Rent -All has
asphalt, and that Mounds View Square has both concrete and asphalt and that the
asphalt has already started deteriorating. He also pointed out that snow plows
often rip the grass next to the asphalt curbs and thus the grass is often missing next
to the curbs. Engineer Hubbard recommended that the City consider a policy requiring
concrete curbing and gutters. He added that at this time the City has the opportunity
to require certain types of improvements and that concrete curbs and gutters would
benefit the whole parking lot.
Councilmember Ziebarth stated that in terms of benefit to property, he felt concrete
would be the best in the long run. He pointed out that the City has had trouble with
asphalt curbs because they do not hold up, especially in heavily travelled areas. He
recommended that an amount be escrowed if asphalt curbing was approved, to guarantee
that repairs would be made when necessary.
Councilmember Baumgartner stated that he agreed with Councilmember Ziebarth's comments
and added that concrete curbing had been required at Perkins, McDonalds, the Launching
Pad and the Bona Road extension. He added that he could appreciate the problem with
the difference in cost but that he felt over a 10 or 20 year period the concrete curb
and gutter would hold up best and probably save money.
Councilmember Rowley stated that she agreed with Councilmember Ziebarth's and Council-
member Baumgartner's comments and that she felt in the long run the additional cost
for concrete curbing would prove itself.
Mayor Pickar stated that he felt Mr. Hall could enter into a development agreement
with the minimum asphalt curbing required for drainage presently with possibly a
4 -5 year time frame to get cement curbing in around the property. He added that
in taking into consideration the hardship of the cost, he did not have any problems
with setting such a time frame.
Mr. Hall replied that he did not feel he would need cement curbing, even in four or
five years. He added that he does not have the traffic problems that the Launching
Pad has and that he has made improvements to his parking lot as required. He requested
that the Council review the situation in 4 -5 years to see if they still feel concrete
curbing would be required.
MSP ( Pickar- Ziebarth) to approve the City issuing a building permit to Charles Hall
for the Mermaid Lounge and to adopt Resolution No. 893 authorizing execution of
Development Agreement 76 -13 for the construction of the 24 lane bowling area as
described in the plat presented by Mr. Hall, and further recommend the change in the
drainage and the ponding area as discussed in Paragraph 1 of the Clerk- Administrator's
memo dated 4/24/78 and further add that an asphalt curb be added to the parking area
as determined by the Engineer as necessary, in order to direct the flow of water, and
that baffling be required, and that it be replaced by concrete curbing around the entire
structure within five years from this date. Approval would be contingent upon Rice
Creek Watershed District approval.
Councilmember Ziebarth asked if the motion would take into consideration the parking
spaces variance required and the disparity of the 5' and 15' on the original plan
on the far west green space. Councilmember Baumgartner replied that the road that