HomeMy WebLinkAbout06-22-1988 PROCEEDINGS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION
CITY OF MOUNDS VIEW
RAMSEY COUNTY, MINNESOTA
Special Meeting
June 22 , 1988
Mounds View City Hall
2401 Hwy. 10 , Mounds View, MN 55112
The Mounds View Planning Commission was called 1. Call to
to order by Chairman Mountin at 7 :31 PM on Wednesday, Order
June 22 , 1988 .
MEMBERS PRESENT: Commissioners Burgers , Saunders, 2. Roll Call
Zollner, Miller and Chairman Mountin.
It was noted that Commissioners Peters and Simons
had excused absences.
ALSO PRESENT: City Planner Herman and Councilmember
Wuori.
Motion/Second: Burgers/Zollner to approve the May 4 , 3 . Approval of
1988 regular meeting minutes and the May 18 , 1988 Minutes :
special meeting minutes as presented. May 4 , 1988 and
May 18 , 1988
5 ayes 0 nays
Motion Carried
There were no residents requests or comments from 4 . Residents
the floor. Requests and
Comments from
the Floor
Peter Sabee, of Barr Engineering, reviewed their 5 . Consideration
correspondence of June 17 to the City Council and of Resolution
Planning Commission, clarifying issues previously No. 229-88
brought up in the discussion of the proposed Green- Regarding
field Estates development. Greenfield
Estates Preli-
Mr. Sabee reported that in addrssing the May 31, minary Plat
1988 letter from the developer regarding requirements
for lot size, lot width, setbacks and so forth for
developments within the wetland zone, they reviewed
three different ordinances, from the City of Chanhassen,
the State Shoreland and Floodplain Management Regula-
tions and Nine Mile Bluff Creek Regulations, and found
Sthem to be similarly restrictive with those of Mounds View,
and he reviewed the various requirements.
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John Borovsky, of Barr Engineering, explained that
they had responded as they thought appropriate to the
developer ' s letter, but he realistically feels that
passing judgment on this issue should be with the
Planning Commission, City Council and legal counsel,
as it relates not so much to technical issues as it
does to community standards.
Mr. Sabee reviewed the letter regarding the phosphorus
stripping capacity, which interprets the intent of the
ordinance to protect the potential of the wetland
function, and he reviewed that interpretation. He
explained there are no wetlands that can completely
strip phosphorus from the water, and due to the time
storm water spends in a typical wetland, there is not
enough time to remove the phosphorus. He added they
must also consider the intent of the ordinance, that
development should have no impact on the wetland
phosphorus stripping capacity as compared to the
existing conditions of the wetland.
Mr . Sabee recommended the Planning Commission consider
a change in the standard that would result in a
standard that states that whatever development or
• alteration there is, it could not result in a decrease
in the phosphorus stripping capacity, that it can only
be maintained or improved.
Mr. Sabee stated that in addressing the Planning
Commission ' s concern about an average storm versus a
critical storm, the Walker Method is an alternative
that could be used for an average event, and he would
recommend some modification of the Walker Method or
another method be considered for critical storm
events. He added that they have looked at this issue
from a technical viewpoint and did not look at it as
Mr. Borovsky added that with a particular development,
when phosphorus stripping is a big hurdle, they should
look at other methods for analyzing phosphorus stripping.
Mr. Sabee cautioned that their letter dealt solely
with considering the method and the attributes of
such, and does not apply to how the method is applied
to this development.
Jim Merila, of Merila & Associates, questioned whether
the representatives of Barr Engineering felt the
developer ' s proposal strips phosphorus better than the
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existing wetland using the Walker Model.
Mr. Sabee replied using a different model than that
required by the Code was dependent upon approval of
the Planning Commission and Council , and they do not
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• have an option to use that as a measure for a proposed
development. He added that the questions of how it
would calculate to a critical storm event needs to be
evaluated.
He also stated the Planning Commission needs to address
what method would be used and how the standard would be
applied.
Mr . Merila stated the existing method does not provide
an adequate manner of calculating phosphorus stripping,
and a better method is needed.
Kay Weseman, no address given, asked if there was
another approach to improving phosphorus stripping in a
wetland.
Mr. Borovsky stated he would be surprised if state of the
art phosphorus calculations didn' t show the proposed
development would result in improved phosphorus stripping
capacity. He added that while that gives an indication of
the direction the development would proceed, it does not
provide a test of whether it would be good enough or not.
He stated the language in the ordinance now is what the
test would be.
• City Planner Herman stated they are trying to help the
City Council decide what direction they want to go, and
the issue is both how to get the end result, what model
to use as well as the end result itself.
Mr. Sabee expressed concern with the total picture and
its implications, stating they need a standard that
will look at all cases and protect the intent of the
ordinance in all cases without necessarily approving
the development.
Mr. Merila stated he feels there is a better technical
method of calculating phosphorus than what is currently
being judged, and if Barr has another method, they have
no problem complying with that versus the Walker
Method. Mr. Merila reviewed his letter of June 22, in
response to the June 17 letter from Barr Engineering.
City Planner Herman reviewed proposed Resolution No.
229-88 with the Planning Commission. She stated that
regardless of whether the development is approved, she
would recommend the Coucnil address the proposed change
to the wetland boundaries and bring the wetland map
current .
• There was discussion among the Commissioners regarding
setting standards for phosphorus stripping. City Planner
Herman read from portions of the ordinance and questioned
whether the Planning Commission was already setting standards,
and she advised recommending to the Council that they look at
the standard rather than giving a definitive recommendation.
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0 Mr. Borovsky suggested an addition to the proposed
resolution stating that with a wetland, there would
be no net decrease in phosphorus stripping capacity,
for a fully developed watershed and in comparison
to predevelopment conditions in the wetland, and they
should not reduce the phosphorus stripping capacity
of the existing conditions from the watershed
phosphorus loading.
Chairman Mountin recommended they advise the City
Council that critical storm analysis needs to be done
to establish flow rates and a data base for this and
future developments .
Motion/Second: Mountin/Zollner to recommend to the
Council that a priority be given to establishing
flow rates on a city-wide basis that affect wetlands,
in order to establish a data base on which future
calculations can be made .
5 ayes 0 nays Motion Carried
Chairman Mountin noted the information requested
of the developer regarding Chapter 48 .06 Subd. 4 (3)
was received earlier in the day and there was not
sufficient time to consider it before the meeting.
410 She added that due to time constraints, they cannot
table action on this request to wait for further
information and must take action now.
There was discussion on whether any additional lots
would have been gained if the original upland had
been used for four lots, and it was determined there
would have been no gain.
Mr. Merila stated it was more expensive to develop
with the setup of the proposed plat, than what they
had originally requested.
Chairman Mountin clarified that the City did not create
a land-locked parcel for Mr. Harstad.
The setback issue of 100 ' for th:o buffer was discussed,
and th:o Commissioners agreed it should be discussed
lot by lot. City Planner Herman reported that Barr
had done some work and they feel that by moving fill
around, the 100 ' buffer requirement could be met.
Mr. Sabee explained it would involve redistribution of
where the fill is placed and the wetland created. He
added there are many different configurations, which
• may require giving up a lot, butwould not require
other variances, although it would still require an
alteration permit.
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Special Meeting Page Five
Mr. Borovsky clarified that Barr Engineering was not
directed by the City Council or Planning Commission
to figure out how to configure the development to meet
the Code, and that should be done by the developer.
Chairman Mountin recommended adding another whereas
to the resolution, that the variance to the 100 ' set-
back should not be viewed as a blanket variance and
may in fact be changed by a redesign of the wetland
alteration.
Savri Ayaz, no address given, stated he feels the
variances should be specific, not general.
Chairman Mountin explained this would be an open
door so that if reasonable alternatives are available,
they will be looked at, and she added there may be a
reasonable alternative here.
Mr. Merila stated he feels precedent was set with
Planning Commission Resolution No. 93-83 , for Dynamic
Designers , as a variance was granted due to a hardship
with many similarities to their proposed development.
He added Edgewood Square was approved with 90 ' lots,
and they are considered to be part of the wetland area.
He added the big issues are lot size and width, and he
illquestioned. if there was a real need for the standards
set for development of the wetlands .
Chairman Mountin replied the variance to build in the
100 ' buffer is a moot point if the preliminary plat
is not approved. She explained that without the
variances for Dynamic Designers, which was One
lot, it was just not buildable. She stated she was
not certain what the circumstances were for the Eigen-
heer property, but if an error was made, that does not
mean it should be repeated.
Chairman Mountin reiterated that due to time constraints,
the Planning Commission must work with what is before
them, and as there is no request from the developer to
table this to allow time for. the Planning Commission to
review the information received earlier today, action
must be taken now.
Motion/Second: Zollner/Miller to adopt Resolution No.
229-88 , a resolution of recommendation to the City
Council regarding the Harstad Development Proposal
known as Greenfield Estates.
5 ayes 0 nays Motion Carried
IIICity Planner. Herman reported the itemwould be on
the July 5 agenda of the Council, and the applicant
would be notified.
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0 City Planner Hermanreported she had spoken to the 6. Consideration
City Engineer, who verified that a 16" . variance is of Resolution
needed for the northern 12 ' of the driveway. No. 227-88
Regarding
Motion/Second: Miller/Saunders to adopt Resolution Variance Request
No. 227-88 , approving the. variance request by Tom by Tom Deuser,
Deuser, 2097 Pinewood Drive, Planning Case No. 2097 Pinewood
242-88 . Drive
5 ayes 0 nays Motion Carried
It was noted there was no one present to represent 7 . Consideration
the applicant, of Resolution
No. 228-88
City Planner Herman reported the applicant had been Regarding Minor
in earlier in the day and paid the fees, but it was Subdivision
discovered she had made an error in the original Request by
submission and the figures submitted should be W.E. Rosenquist,
checked for accuracy. 8380 Spring
Lake Road
Chairman Mountin suggested approving the request
contingent upon easements documents being received
and verification of the calculations.
• There was a question of whether Mrs . Bonen has
power of attorney for the property owners, her
parents, but it was agreed the only time proof of
ownership is needed is at the time of recording.
Motion/Second: Burgers/Miller. to adopt Resolution
No. 228-88 , recommending approval of a minor subdi-
vision at 8380 Spring Lake Road, Mounds View Planning
Case No. 245-88 .
5 ayes 0 nays Motion Carried
City Planner Herman advised the Commissioners of 8. Report of
upcoming items for their next meeting. In discussing Staff
the schedule of the Planning Commission, Chairman
Mountin advised a calendar must be set for 1988 , if
it was not already done.
It was agreed to have the recently received subdivision
request placed on the July 6 agenda, for discussion and
possible action at that time. The Planning Commission
will get back into a mode of holding their regular
meeting on the first Wednesday of the month, with an
agenda session the third Wednesday of the month, at
which time they will call to order if necessary.
411 The Commissioners asked that Staff look into the sale
which is set up across from Pinewood School.
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Special Meeting Page Seven
411 The attendees at the June 15 agenda session were 9. Chairman' s
Commissioners Miller, Zollner, Burgers and Chairman Report
Mountin, and City Planner Herman and. Councilmember
Wuori.
Chairman Mountin asked that the minutes of the
public meeting of June 15 be attached to the minutes
of the June 22 meeting.
Chairman Mountin adjourned the meeting at 10 : 15 PM. 10. Adjournment
Respectfully submitted,
/e/ -
Kim Herman
City Planner
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ATTACHMENT TO JUNE 22, 1988 , MINUTES
PROCEEDINGS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION
• CITY OF MOUNDS VIEW
RAMSEY COUNTY, MINNESOTA
Public Meeting
June 15, 1988
Mounds View City Hall
2401 Hwy. 10, Mounds View, MN 55112
Chairman Mountin opened the meeting at 7: 30 PM on 1. Presentation
Wednesday, June 15, 1988, explaining that it was not and Discussion:
a regular or special meeting, but rather a public Greenfield
meeting to gather information and hear those concerned Estates Pre-
with the proposed development. She explained the liminary Plat
Planning Commission would not be calling to order or
taking any action this evening, and she outlined the
guidelines to be followed, with dialogue to flow to
and from the Planning Commission, and questions
posed to the Commission, who would then ask them of
the developer, and so forth.
Tne Commissioners present were Commissioners Miller, Zoliner,
burgers and Chairman Mountin, with City Planner Herman rep-
resenting Staff and Councilmember Wuori representing Council.
City Planner Herman explained there would be a brief presen-
tation by Harstad Co. , and then Barr Engineering, mho was hired
by the City and paid for by Harstad Co. , would answer
questions and respond to the comments made.
Jim Merila, of Merila & Associates, Inc. , introduced himself
and Steve Thatcher, then made a presentation showing several
different drawings of the proposal, including two colored
renderings showing the original and the new plan, with the
road no longer going all the way through. He explained it
had been eliminated primarily to have the wetland contiguous
on both sides of Edgewood. He added the revised plan has been
a.•roved b the Arm Cor._ . se ' . -- wie ' .— _ .
prised of 17 lots total.
Mr. Merila showed where the existing wetland and buffer are,
per the City map, and the wetland district line as determined
by the Corps of Engineers, which differs. He stated that
regardless of whether this development is done, the City ' s
wetland map needs to be updated to show the determination made
by the Corps of Engineers.
Mr. Merila stated they are proposing to fill 1 . 6 acres of
wetland, and to compensate for that, they will excavate an
equal area. He pointed out that presently the 100 ' buffer
line goes through two fully developed lots, and the current
*zoning map shows five lots within the current buffer strip.
Mr. Merila stated that with the new deliniation, three
additional lots will be buildable that currently are not
without a variance. With some modification, they can get
four additional lots outside the 100 ' buffer strip, which
Mounds View Planning Commission June 15, 1988
Public Meeting Page Two
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he feels would be acceptable with the Corps of Engineers.
It would require excavation of approximately 10 ' near the
inlet to the wetland which would be moved to the south.
Mr. Merila showed the plan that was originally proposed
in 1981, which was for 24 lots. He explained the appli-
cation was submitted three days before the moritorium
was created, thus tabling the proposal . Edgewood Square
was being developed at that time and Mr . Harstad asked for
access to the southern corner of his lots at that time, and
when it was not given, four to five lots were cut off and
land locked.
Mr. Merila stated they are now looking for an amendment to
have the wetland boundaries modified to their correct
location, then a wetland alteration permit for 1 .6 acres,
as well as a variance for building within 100 ' setback, and
a variance from the 20, 000 square foot lot size require-
ment and variance from the 125 foot lot width.
Mr . Merila stated that in a survey they did of 45 metro
communities, 80 percent do not have a wetland ordinance,
and of those that do, only two besides Mounds View have a
minimum lot size, both of which are 16, 000 square feet.
0 He added only Mounds View has a minimum lot width in the
wetland that is greater than the rest of the City, as
well as greater setback requirements . He added the Corps
of Engineers has jurisdiction over any development within
a wetland, - and he feels their interpretation would be
merit for modification of the City' s wetland ordinance.
Mr . Merila explained the process they plan for phosphorus
removal, with the use of sedimentation ponds. The method
they suggest for analizing phosphorus stripping is the
method currently being used by the St. Paul Water Works.
Planner Herman presented a list of the issues that have been
raised, and called upon the representatives from Barr Engineer-
ing to give their responses. She added they had read the memo
sent to the Planning Commission and felt comfortable with the
technical assumptions made in it.
John Borovsky, of Barr Engineering, discussed the phosphorus
removal options available and explained the difference between
dry and wet wetlands. He explained the developer could meet
the requirements of the ordinance by methods that could be
contrary to the intent of the ordinance, the Planning Commis-
sion and City Council . He stated he is concerned at this time
with recommending the Walker method due to possibly setting a
411precedent in the community. He added that the principles
involved in the Walker method are consistent with what they
believe the City should consider, and he explained the assump-
tions involved. He advised the City Attorney address the issue
of precedence that may be set , and if it could be worked out,
this type of approach would be acceptable.
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Public Meeting Page Three
• Peter Sabee, of Barr Engineering, stated that if the
intent of the ordinance is to protect the wetland, the
amount of stripping is not the key item to be concen-
trated on, but rather the existing conditions versus
proposed conditions.
Mr. Borovsky advised there are two decisions to be
made, one being the appropriateness of the procedure,
and secondly, the parameters the Planning Commission or
City Council determines would be appropriate with the
ordinance.
City Planner Herman stated Barr is putting their report
in writing and it will be given to the Planning
Commission prior to their next regular meeting. She also
clarified the issue of the temporary injunction Mr. Harstad
had sought with the development of Edgewood. Square. Mr.
Harstad' s opinion was that he should not have to provide
access to his lots, and it should be the City' s role to do
so, and because it was not done, he is now claiming a hard-
ship.
Jim Sandidge , 7817 Bona Road, questioned how much property
Mr. Harstad had purchased originally, as he has developed
several homes in the area already and it is possible that
he could have land-locked himself. He added he felt it
Illwas important the City find out.
Mr. Merila showed on one of the maps where the land-locked
lots are, and where Mr. Harstad has developed homes already.
He also stated he has sent Clerk/Administrator Pauley a
letter regarding the methodology used to calculate phosporus
stripping and requesting that the Walker method be adopted.
He added that if Ramsey County Soil and Water Conservation
District modifies their report, it would satisfy the ordinance
and not require an amendment.
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ordinance.
There was discussion on when Mr. Harstad had requested
access to the lots that were subsequently land-locked, and
when the Eigenheer development was approved. Chairman
Mountin clarified that development is essentially approved
at the time the preliminary plat is approved.
Kathy Ayaz , 7751 Bona Road, asked at what point access was
offered to Mr. Harstad, and the opportunity given to him to
buy the necessary property. She stated she does not feel
there should be a payback now because of this situation from
some time ago.
Mounds View Planning Commission June 15 , 1988
Public Meeting Page Four
410Chairman Mountin stated. that in granting a variance, the
applicant should not have created his own need.
Debbie Alman, 2390 Pinewood, stated she knows of someone
who would like to purchase that property from Mr. Harstad,
but he is unwilling to sell it and appears to be hanging
on to it for a bargaining tool.
Jim Thollus, 7845 Bona Road, asked for a clarification
of the proposed drainage ditch, and what the City does to
maintain wetlands.
City Planner Herman replied the ditches have to be cleaned
periodically, and the City has not been too active in
keeping them cleaned in the past.
Sabri Ayaz , 7751 Bona Road, stated he feels cleaning the
ditch hurts the wetland as it appears to shrink.
Sandy Keough, 7827 Bona Road, stated she had read the
ordinance and as far as changing the wetland map, there
is quite a procedure to be followed, which is time
consuming, and she did not feel the City should use the
developers revised map to consider this proposal as it
has not been approved.
• City Planner Herman stated the Planning Commission will
take action on this proposal on Wednesday, June 22, and
send it on to the Council, who is the final authority.
The Council would have adequate time in July to conduct
the necessary public hearings, if the City takes the
deliniation of the Army Corps of Engineers as an
accurate assessment.
Kay Weseman, 7807 Bona Road, stated she has a real problem
in accepting the Corps of Engineers authority over the
wetland, and she quoted several facts from a book she had
she•asked the City to use caution on taking their recommenda-
tions. She added she would like to hear the DNR's comments
on the City' s guidelines, and would also like to know where
Mounds View stands in comparison to non-wetland development.
She added she would also like to know from Barr Engineering
what the wetland would look like in 5, 10 or 20 years if
the City does not do anything as far as cleaning the ditches,
and so forth. She stated she feels the cattails should be
reseeded and guarantees made.
Ms. Weseman presented a petition to the Planning Commission
of over 200 signatures of residents mostly within 350 ' of
the proposed development, all opposed to disturbing the
•wetland.
Mounds View Planning Commission June 15 , 1988
Public Meeting Page Five
410Mr. Borovsky questioned the date of the book Ms. Weseman
had referred to, as things have changed drastically with
the Corps of Engineers within the past few years . He
explained they get recommendations from the Fish and
Wildlife Service, which is a very strict, conservative
group.
Ms. Weseman replied she could not recall the date of
publication but could go back to the library and look
it up. She added the City should accept the ultimate
responsibility and not just go along with what the Corps
of Engineers says.
City Planner Herman pointed out it was not just the Corps
of Engineers who feels the wetland should be redeliniated,
that Barr Engineering has also gone out, and after the last
discussion on boundaries, Ramsey County Soil & Water Conser-
vation District, Barr Engineering and the Corps of
Engineers went out together and all agreed upon the pro-
posed redeliniation. She added that Barr was selected in
part based on recommendations of the residents present
at the hearings . She stated the lot size consideration
has been referred to Barr, and input should be back from
them soon. She added they will be reviewing standards of
other communities also. In the end, it will be the City' s
decision, and it will be a variance decision, not a "too
strict" decision.
Chairman Mountin stated that every developer that comes
before the City complains the City is too restrictive.
That is a value the City and it' s residents desire and is
why they come to Mounds. View to live. She added they will
stay with that as long as the residents want it.
City Planner Herman stated that the wetland portions that
are not going to be built upon will be turned over to the
City as outlots , at which time they will become the City' s
res•onsibilit to main _' . . a. • •. — _ ae
must be done.
Mr. Borovsky stated it is not possible with the budget
they are working with to predict what will happen 10 or
15 or 20 years from now. He stated wetlands change over
time, irregardless of development.
Rich Lievel, of 7701 Edgewood asked what amount of phosphorus
is coming into the wetland relative to the stripping capacity.
Mr. Borovsky replied there is no actual measure to what will
come in, that it is all assumptions .
SChairman Mountin explained the City' s ordinance has been used
to deny development on wetlands, with a case recently, which
also had variance issues involved.
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Public Meeting Page Six
Ms . Alman asked if the proposed change in the wetland
boundaries takes into consideration 3 dry years and
the fact the ditch was cleaned.
Mr. Borovsky replied it does, and he explained the pro-
cess used to classify wetlands .
Mrs . Ayaz asked how many proposed lots would not be
buildable if they did agree to the new boundaries and
kept the setback requirement.
Mr. Merila replied one would be buildable.
Mrs. Ayaz stated she does not see the need to give the
setback variance, and she referred to comments made at
one meeting by a member of the Audubon Society, con-
cerning the importance of the buffer zone, and how it is
there to protect what is there.
Mr. Sandidge stated the issue has been brought up before
that the City altered the wetland by cleaning the ditch
and he asked if the City is looking at repairing any
damage that was done.
City Planner Herman replied the City is required to
maintain the ditch for flood purposes, and they are not
•violating the ordinance by cleaning the ditch.
Commissioner Burgers stated the purpose of cleaning the
ditch was also to restore it to its prior level.
Mr. Borovsky stated there is a misconception about the
wetland, while it may be shrinking -in a sense of the water
level and the character of what is_therey the change in
deliniation is not affected relative to the ditch, but
rather because the original map was not done in detail,
which has been done now.
City Planner Herman referred to City Council minutes of
September 14 , 1981, at which Mr. Harstad asked that
access be provided to his lots by the City, at which time
Mr. Eigenheer offered to sell him the property needed.
Mr. Merila clarified the change in the wetland and the
accuracy of when it was originally platted.
City Planner Herman stated the Planning Commission would
discuss the issue further next week, at their June 22
meeting, and would make a final recommendation at that
time to the Council.
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Public Meeting Page Seven
4I0Ms. Weseman asked that a copy of the report from the
Audubon Society be given to all the Planning Commissioners.
The discussion ended at 9 :20 PM.
Respectfully submitted,
Kim Herman
City Planner
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MOUNDS VIEW PLANNING COMMISSION
RESOLUTION NO. 228-88
CITY OF MOUNDS VIEW
COUNTY OF RAMSEY
STATE OF MINNESOTA
RESOLUTION RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF A MINOR SUBDIVISION,
8380 SPRING LAKE ROAD, MOUNDS VIEW PLANNING CASE NO. 245-88
WHEREAS, W. E. Rosenquist, 8380 Spring Lake Road, has
requested approval of a minor subdivision dividing the northeast
portion of his lot from the existing lot; and
WHEREAS , the Planning Commission has reviewed the
applicant ' s request for a minor subdivision and determines that
it is in conformance with Chapters 40 and 42 of the City Code .
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED that the Planning
Commission of the City of Mounds View recommends approval of the
minor subdivision request by Mr. Rosenquist contingent upon
providing the City with appropriate title abstracts and recording
of those abstracts with Ramsey County.
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that approval for the minor
subdivision be contingent upon the applicant drafting and
0 obtaining utility easements for 8380 Spring Lake Road and
verification of lot sizes.
BE IT FINALLY RESOLVED that the Planning Commission
directs Staff to forward this resolution to the City Council
prior to approval of the minutes .
Adopted this 22nd day of June , 1988 .
ATTEST:
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Chair an.'
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MOUNDS VIEW PLANNING COMMISSION
RESOLUTION NO. 229-88
CITY OF MOUNDS VIEW
COUNTY OF RAMSEY
STATE OF MINNESOTA
RESOLUTION OF RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL
REGARDING THE HARSTAD DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL
KNOWN AS GREENFIELD ESTATES
WHEREAS, Harstad Companies has requested approval of a
single family development proposal known as Greenfield Estates ;
and
WHEREAS, Harstad Companies has requested the following in
order to construct their proposed development:
1 . Major subdivision ( 17 single family homes )
2 . Wetland zoning district map amendment
3. Wetland alteration permit
4 . Variance from a) 100 foot wetland setback requirement,
b) 125 foot minimum lot width, and c ) 20, 000 square
foot minimum lot size
5. Vacation of right-of-way (ROW)
6 . Park land dedication credit
411 7. Conditional use permit for working in the flood plain;
and
WHEREAS, the Army Corps of Engineers, Ramsey Soil and
Water Conservation District, and the City' s Engineering
Consultant have reviewed the wetland boundaries and found some
discrepancy in the boundaries shown on the City' s official
Wetland Zoning Map; and
WHEREAS , the Planning Commission recommends approving the
Wetland Zoning District amendment to accurately reflect the
existing boundaries of Wetland No . 1-19; and
WHEREAS, the developer must meet the conditions outlined
in Chapter 48 . 06, Subd . 1, 2 and 3 in order to obtain a wetland
alteration permit; and
WHEREAS, the City's engineering consultant has reviewed
the development proposal and found that the discharge rate from
the wetland will not increase ; and
WHEREAS, the City 's engineering consultant has reviewed
the development proposal and found that the storm water storage
volume of the wetland will increase ; and
41, WHEREAS, the City's engineering consultant has reviewed
the development proposal and found that the flood height of the
wetland will not increase ; and
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WHEREAS, the discharge rate, storm water storage volume ,
and the wetland 's flood height will not have a substantial nor
significant adverse impact upon the wetland; and
WHEREAS, the City's engineering consultant has reviewed
the phosphorus calculations for the development per City Code
Chapter 48. 06, Subd . 3(A) 2, and found it to not be in conformance
with the Code requirements; and
WHEREAS, the developer has suggested an alternative method
for calculating the phosphorus stripping; and
WHEREAS, the Planning Commission would recommend
evaluating the phosphorus stripping capabilities of a wetland for
both the critical storm event and the average storm event; and
WHEREAS, the City's engineering consultant has reviewed
the alternative phosphorus stripping model and found it to be
acceptable in calculating an average storm event with some
changes in the input assumptions; and
WHEREAS, the Planning Commission would recommend to the
City Council that the "Walker Method" suggested by the developer
is an acceptable method of calculating the phosphorus stripping
capacity of a wetland for an average storm occurrence with some
changes in the input assumptions; and
WHEREAS, the Planning Commission would further recommend
that if this methodology were chosen to supersede the ordinance
requirement using the Ramsey Soil and Water Conservation District
formula, the model should be modified or another found to assess
the phosphorus stripping for a critical storm, therefore ,
ensuring that the analysis would produce the most conservative
estimate ; and
WHEREAS, the two analyses gathered, phosphorus stripping
in a wetland for an average storm event and critical storm event,
should be reviewed to assess the overall quantifiable affect of
the proposed development against the existing wetland; and
WHEREAS, the Planning Commission recommends to the City
Council to review the standard set in 48. 06 ( 3 ) (A) for phosphorus
stripping and recommends that the standard should be that for a
fully developed watershed the wetland alteration shall not result
in a net decrease in phosphorus stripping capacity as compared to
the predevelopment conditions of the wetland; and
WHEREAS, the Planning Commission further recommends that
• the City Council add to 48.06 , Subd . 4, the term "phosphorus
stripping" to allow the City Council to place conditions related
to that subject upon an alteration permit approval ; and
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WHEREAS, Chapter 48.06, Subd . 4 (3) requires that following
information as part of the wetland alteration permitting process :
1 . The time period for commencement and completion of the
development including time for staging of development,
if applicable .
2 . Design specification and plan for all sediment and
erosion control measures as well as all grading and
drainage appertenances and practices ; and
WHEREAS, the developer has not provided the required
information such as the location of the temporary road nor the
time period for the commencement of the development including
time periods for staging; and
WHEREAS, the Planning Commission would recommend denial of
the wetland alteration permit based on the insufficient
information on the revised phosphorus calculations and on the
construction timing and temporary haul road; and
WHEREAS, the developer has requested a variance from the
• minimum lot size-20, 000 square feet and minimum lot width-125
feet as measured at the building setback line and the 100 foot
setback; and
WHEREAS, the Planning Commission and Staff have reviewed
this request and found that there are no exceptional or
extraordinary circumstances which apply to the properties which
do not apply generally to other properties in the same zone or
vicinity and result from lot size or shape, topography or other
circumstances over which the owners of the property, since
enactment of this Code, have had no control ; and
WHEREAS, furthermore , the Planning Commission and Staff
has found that the request is not the minimum variance which
would alleviate the hardship; economic conditions alone shall not
be considered a hardship; and
WHEREAS, the Planning Commission would recommend denial of
the variance requests for lot size, lot width and the 100 foot
setback; and
WHEREAS, the developer has requested a conditional use
permit for working in a flood plain; and
WHEREAS, the City's engineering consultant has reviewed
• the development proposal and found no adverse affect upon the
flood plain; and
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WHEREAS, the Planning Commission would recommend approving
a conditional use permit for filling in a flood plain contingent
upon the receipt and review of the information regarding the
temporary haul road; and
WHEREAS, the developer has requested vacation of
• right-of-way and a park dedication fund credit and the Planning
Commission has no recommendation; and
WHEREAS, it is the practice of the Planning Commission to
recommend approval of a development in total .
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED the Planning Commission
recommends denial of the development proposal Known as Greenfield
Estates , except for Lot 4, Block 4, which is not within the
wetland zoning district and meets the Code requirements of
Chapter 40, for the following reasons :
1. Denial of the wetland alteration permit
2. Denial of the variance for lot size
3. Denial of the variance for lot width
4 . Denial of the variance for 100 foot setback
• BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that the Planning Commission
recommends approving the wetland zoning district amendment
separate from this development proposal so as to have the City' s
records accurately reflect the existing wetland.
BE IT FINALLY RESOLVED that the Planning Commission
directs Staff to forward this resolution to the City Council
prior to approval of the minutes .
Adopted this 22nd day of June , 1988.
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