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CITY OF MOUNDS VIEW
RAMSEY COUNTY, MINNESOTA
Regular Meeting
June 3, 1992
Mounds View City Hall
2401 Highway 10, Mounds View, MN 55112
The Mounds View Planning Commission was 1. Call To Order
called to order by Chair Mountin at 7: 39
p.m. on Wednesday, June 3 , 1992 .
MEMBERS PRESENT: Commissioners Colleen, 2 . Roll Call
Miller, Nelson, Peterson, Ruggles, and
Chair Mountin.
Commissioner Stevenson had an excused
absence.
Commissioner Burgers had an unexcused
absence.
ALSO PRESENT: Planner Harrington,
411 Recording Secretary Asleson, and
Councilmember Blanchard.
Motion/Second: Ruggles/Colleen to 3 . Approval of
approve the minutes of May 6, 1992. Minutes:
May 6, 1992
6 ayes 0 nays Motion Carried
There were no resident requests or 4 . Resident
comments from the floor. Requests and
Comments from
the Floor
Planner Harrington reviewed Resolution 5. Consideration
No. 339-92, regarding the request of of Resolution
Harstad Companies to develop their No. 339-92 ,
property, known as "Greenfield Estates" . Regarding
The Commissioners were shown a revised Development
version of Resolution No. 339-92 as Request of
drafted at the Commission's Special Harstad
Meeting on May 27, 1992 . Planner Companies
Harrington noted that all language (Greenfield
concerning the Development Agreement Estates) ,
• would be included in the City Council's Planning Case
resolution and that the following items No. 333-91
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would be included in Attachment A:
original submittal narrative, phos-
phorous stripping calculations, city
consultant Peter Sabee's review, and
revised plans dated June 3 , 1992 .
Two letters from residents were read and
noted for the minutes. Kay Weseman,
7807 Bona Road and Joan Sandidge, 7817
Bona Road both voiced their opposition
to the proposed development in their
letters.
Chair Mountin asked that these letters
and the attendance list from the May
20th agenda session be attached to these
minutes. She also asked if the Planning
Commission could include, as a part of
their resolution, a statement urging
that the City Council continue to inves-
tigate the drainage problems on Bona
• Road as noted in Ms. Sandidge's letter.
Planner Harrington replied that it would
not be appropriate to include this in
the Greenfield Estates resolution, as
this drainage problem on Bona Road is
not related to the applicant's request.
It would be more appropriate for the
Commission to issue a recommendation
independent of the Greenfield Estates
resolution.
Motion/Second: Miller/Colleen to
recommend to the City Council that clean
up of the stream leading into Branch 5
of Judicial Ditch No. 1 be given high
priority as a result of comments
received in the course of reviewing the
Greenfield Estates proposal.
5 ayes 1 nay Motion Carried
Commissioner Ruggles voted against the
motion, as the ditch and the Greenfield
Estates property have no relation,
• except by proximity.
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Jeff Roos, of McCombs, Frank, Roos
Engineering and representing the app-
licant, wished to make several comments
on the proposed resolution and the
City's wetland ordinance in general.
From a developer's standpoint, it would
have been easier had variances not been
needed in order to develop the property.
However, Mr. Roos praised the wetland
ordinance as being restrictive and
workable at the same time. He has tried
to convey to the residents that the
Planning Commission has followed the
ordinance and that in the end, the
wetland will actually be improved with
the development.
Commissioner Miller asked Mr. Roos to
review residents' concerns regarding the
three lots in the wetland.
• Mr. Roos replied that three lots will be
in areas that are currently wetland
(rather than wetland buffer) . The
developer will be filling the wetlands
to create the building pad. Some
residents believe that wetland is going
to be lost, but actually, the developer
will be creating wetland area elsewhere.
Commissioner Nelson questioned the
property lines being drawn through the
drainage ponds: would the City have any
liability issues to consider?
Planner Harrington indicated that all
ponds located within property lines will
be taken as easements and that all other
areas of the wetland will be conveyed to
the City.
Commissioner Ruggles asked why the
developer didn't propose extending
Edgewood Drive though to County Road I.
Chair Mountin stated that this extension
• was examined in the last proposal that
Mr. Harstad brought to the Planning
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Commission. At that time, it appeared
that the citizens did not want Edgewood
to go through and that the soils in the
area might be inappropriate for road
construction. This may be why it was
not proposed this time.
Mr. Roos stated his belief that the
plans that have been drawn to represent
an improvement for the area and that the
residents will realize this in time.
Chair Mountin commented that some
residents do not realize that Mounds
View's wetland ordinance calls for
wetlands management, rather than
wetlands preservation. The ordinance
does not prevent building in wetlands.
If preservation is what residents want,
they need to approach the Planning
Commission and the City Council with
• proposed changes.
Planner Harrington stated that the
ordinance allows for circumstances when
a wetland can benefit, both aesthetic-
ally and functionally, from development.
Commissioner Miller asked Mr. Roos if
the houses that will be built in Green-
field Estates would be larger, since the
proposed lot sizes have increased.
Mr. Roos replied that since the land
values have increased along with the lot
size, he assumes that the houses built
will be in the $200, 000 price range.
Motion/Second: Colleen/Miller to
approve Resolution No. 339-92 , recom-
mending approval of the development
request of Harstad Companies' known as
"Greenfield Estates" .
6 ayes 0 nays Motion Carried
Planner Harrington updated the 6. Staff Report
Commission on Planning Case No. 338-92 ,
Mounds View Planning Commission June 3 , 1992
Regular Meeting Page 5
request for Conditional Use Permit to
operate a residential dog kennel. The
applicant is in the process of obtaining
the required consent of 50% of property
owners within 500 feet of her home, and
would like to have action taken on the
matter at a special meeting of the
Planning Commission on June 17, 1992 .
Planner Harrington also noted that
Everest Development had requested that
the Commission call to order at their
June 17, 1992 agenda session to consider
a PUD amendment at Mounds View Business
Park. Everest would like to add more
parking near the front door of Owens and
Minor.
The attendance at the Commission's May 7 . Report of Chair
20, 1992 agenda session included
Commissioners Miller, Peterson, Nelson,
• Ruggles, Stevenson, and Chair Mountin.
Commissioner Colleen had an excused
absence; Commissioner Burgers had an
unexcused absence.
The attendance at the Commission's May
27, 1992 special agenda session included
Commissioners Miller, Nelson, Peterson,
and Chair Mountin. Commissioners
Colleen, Ruggles, and Stevenson had
excused absences; Commissioner Burgers
had an unexcused absence.
There being no further business before 8 . Adjournment
the Commission, Chair Mountin adjourned
the meeting at 8 :25 p.m.
Respectfully Submitted,
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Paul Harrington
City Planner
Bill , Cherie and Lauren Wilson
2396 Pinewood Circle N.E .
111 Mounds View, Minnesota 55112
Home: (612) 784-7145
Work: (612) 298-6247
May 23 , 1992
Mounds View City Counsel
Mounds View City Hall
2401 Highway 10
Mounds View, Minnesota 55112
Dear City Counsel Members :
You will soon receive from the Mounds View Planning
Commission; the Commissions findings and recommendation regarding
the proposed development request by Harstad Companies . Harstad
Companies desires to build single family homes on the property
located east of Edgewood Drive , north of County Road I , south of
Hillview Road and east of St . Michael street . This property is
well defined in the City of Mounds View wetlands ordinance and is
a necessary part of flood control , water quality and wildlife
management for the area .
I have attended two of the Mounds View Planning Commissions
• . meetings where Harstad Companies has presented there proposed
development . As a suggestion I would recommend that the City
Counsel accept the recommendation of the Planning Commission . I
make this suggestion without knowing the Planning Commission ' s
final recommendation to the City Counsel . The Planning Commission
has demonstrated a high level of professionalism and knowledge of
housing developments at the two meetings I attended . I believe
that every member of the Planning Commission has Mounds Views ' best
interest at heart and that the Planning Commission will make the
best decision possible regarding the proposed development .
As a personal opinion; I can not agree with the re-drawing
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ordinance allows for some development of the property around the
wetland and the Mounds View Planning Commission has been very
responsible when allowing land usage within the 100 foot buffer
area around the wetlands ; the proposed development is founded on a
loop hole in the ordinance . The "no net loss of wetland area"
portion of the wetland ordinance was (I believe) intended to guard
the wetland areas as they now exist . ( I purchased my house
believing that the wetland boundaries were well identified and that
the boundaries had some value . ) The literal moving of the wetland
area , from where they now stand to another area of the same size
does not guard the wetlands . Instead it makes wetlands a commodity
that can be packaged and transported at will . I do not believe
1111 that the wetland ordinance was written with the intention that
large land owners could redraw the wetland boundaries .
Joan Sandidge Art, s4 +�
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Mounds View MN 55112
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To: Members of the Planning Commission
I am writing in regards to the development request of
Harstad Companies to contruct single family homes on the
property legally know as:
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I understand that this development will be built on 7.9
acres of land designated as wetlands. The only change made
in the current proposal is the increased lot size while
still accomadating three homes in the wetland and eleven
homes on the wetland buffer zone.
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It is my understanding that Mounds View has an excellent
Wetland Ordinance, which took many hours to prepare. What
was the purpose of developing an ordinance only to have it
torn apart by variances ?
I have lived in my house since May 1978 and have had no
water problems inside my home. I have, however, had
structural damage to the foundation and my backyard
continues to sink and is saturated during the spring and
summer heavy rains. My front yard has been flooded up to 30
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was told by Ric Minetor that these problems were not forseen
when homes were developed in this area 15 years ago and that
it may take up to five years if ever to rectify, if
homeowners agree to pay for storm sewers. How did this end
up being the homeowners problem? Perhaps because the city
officials didn't take the time to do their Job?
There has been widespread water damage caused to many homes
in the Mounds View area due to negligence of the City
Government to explore the possible consequences for current
Mounds View homeowners. All of these issues have been
brought before City officials in the past only to have you
continue to consider endangering existing homeowners
• property.
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Are the Harstad Companies really looking out for the
• wildlife by not starting construction until August . Could
it really be that the land will not be dry enough until that
time? Why be concerned about the wildlife until August and
afterwards run them off the land. . If you've read reports
from 1987 from the Audubon Society and the DNR dealing with
this parcel of land you would be aware that these animals
will not return.
I am asking you to use foresight when considering this
development . My home is the largest investment that I will
make In my lifetime. Put yourself in my shoes would YOU
like your property threatened. Am I to trust our city
officials in their judgement after the stories I've heard
of crumbling foundations and water soaked basements. I am
holding the City of Mounds View liable for any structural
damage or water damage to my home and property due to the
reconstructing of the wetlands and building of homes in the
wetland area that borders my property.
S erely,
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Jo n Sandidge
Lifetime Resident
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June 3, 1992
City of Mounds View Planning Commission:
• I am against approval of the current Greenfield development
proposal for the following reasons :
It is not significantly different from the last proposal
that was submitted and denied by the City Council . It
contains overall the same amount of wetland usage. The
number of houses in this proposal was reduced but the actual
land area that is disturbed or developed is almost identical
to the previous proposal.
The developer is requesting what appears to be his entire
portion cf the wetland buffer zone be allowed to be
developed, and in addition that he be allowed to build 3
houses almost entirely within current wetland boundaries. I
do not believe such a request is in compliance with the
intent of the current wetland ordinance. This proposed
development, in my opinion, would have a negative impact on
the current wetland that has established itself over time on
this property. There are no guarantees that I am aware of
that this development will not overload a near capacity
drainage system. If this development does cause water
problems for the existing home owners in the area, the only
solution would be a very costly storm sewer system that
would be a burden for the taxpayers of Mounds View.
111 This development should be denied because it requests too
extensive of variances from our ordinance. Furthermore there
is no significant enhancement offered by this development
that I could perceive that would justify its approval . Any .
hardship (financial or otherwise) suffered by the owner of
this property, I believe, could be eliviated with a much
smaller development in size and with less (temporary or
permanent) disruption to the wetland.
It is my understanding from every survey the City has
conducted in the past, that the people of Mounds View are
strongly committed to wetland preservation. In addition
most government (state and federal ) bodies urge responsible
wetland management because of this valuable resource. Your
review of this proposal should also take these to heart in
your decision making. Thank You.
Kay Weseman elZi4ae
7807 Bona Road
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RESOLUTION NO. 339-92
CITY OF MOUNDS VIEW
COUNTY OF RAMSEY
STATE OF MINNESOTA
RESOLUTION OF RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL
REGARDING THE HARSTAD DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL KNOWN
AS GREENFIELD ESTATES
WHEREAS, Harstad Companies has requested approval of a
single family development proposal known as Greenfield Estates;
and
WHEREAS, Harstad Companies has requested the following
in order to construct their proposed development:
1. Major Subdivision (13 single family lots)
2. Wetland Zoning District Map Amendment
3 . Wetland Alteration Permit
4. Variance from the 100 foot wetland setback
requirement
5. Vacation from right-of-way (ROW)
6. Park land dedication credit
. 7. Conditional Use Permit for working in the flood
plain; and
WHEREAS, the documents included in Attachment A and
approved by the City Planner were received as part of this
development proposal; and
WHEREAS, the Army Corps of Engineers and the City's
Engineering Consultant have reviewed the existing wetland
boundary and found that a discrepancy exists in the boundaries
shown on the City's Official Wetland Zoning Map; and
the Wetland Zoning District Amendment to reflect the existing
boundaries of Wetland No. 1-19; and
WHEREAS, the Developer must meet the conditions
outlined in Chapter 48 . 06, Subdivisions 1, 2, and 3 in order to
obtain a wetland alteration permit; and
WHEREAS, the City's Engineering Consultant has reviewed
the development proposed with regard to Chapter 48 . 06,
Subdivisions 1, 2, and 3 and found that the request meets or
exceeds the requirements; and
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Mounds View Planning Commission
Resolution No. 339-92
Page Two of Three
WHEREAS, the Planning Commission recommends approval of
the Wetland Alteration Permit based on the City Consultant
Engineer's finding that the request meets or exceeds the
applicable sections of the Municipal Code; and
WHEREAS, the Developer has requested a variance from
the 100 foot wetland setback requirement; and
WHEREAS, the Planning Commission and City Staff have
reviewed this request and found that there are exceptional or
extraordinary circumstances which apply to this property which do
not apply generally to other properties in the same zone or
vicinity and results from lot size or shape, topography, or other
circumstances over which the owners of the property, since
enactment of this Code, have had no control; and
WHEREAS, furthermore, the Planning Commission and City
Staff have found that the request is the minimum variance which
would alleviate the hardship and does not convey certain
privileges upon the applicant that are not enjoyed by other
• property owners within the City; and
WHEREAS, the Planning Commission recommends approval of
the variance request within the 100 foot wetland setback
requirement; and
WHEREAS, the Developer has requested a Conditional Use
Permit for working in a flood plain; and
WHEREAS, the City's Engineering Consultant has reviewed
the development proposal and found no adverse affect upon the
flood plain; and
WHEREAS, the Planning Commission recommends approving a
Conditional Use Permit for filling in a flood plain; and
WHEREAS, the Developer has requested vacation of City-
owned right-of-way; and
WHEREAS, the Developer has requested that property be
accepted in lieu of the Park Dedication Fee; and
WHEREAS, the Planning Commission recommends acceptance
of land in lieu of the Park Dedication fee; and
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Resolution No. 339-92
Page Three of Three
WHEREAS, furthermore, the Planning Commission
recommends that the Parks and Recreation Commission review the
proposal to determine possible passive recreational uses of the
land provided by the Developer; and
WHEREAS, it is the practice of the Planning Commission
to recommend approval or denial of a development in total.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED that the Planning
Commission recommends approval of the development proposal known
as Greenfield Estates as the request meets or exceeds all
requirements for development as defined within the Mounds View
Municipal Code.
BE IT FINALLY RESOLVED that the Planning Commission
directs Staff to forward this resolution to the City Council
prior to approval of the minutes.
Adopted this 3rd day of June, 1992 .
• ATTEST:
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ATTACHMENT A
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1) City of Mounds View Planning Application
2) Applicant's Letter of Submittal dated October 25, 1991
3) Applicant's Development Request Narrative dated October 25, 1991
4) Department of Natural Resources letter of comment on the
proposal dated October 3, 1991
5) Department of the Army letter of comment on the proposal dated
November 15, 1991
6) Copies of Preliminary Plat, Grading and Drainage Plan, Wetlands
Map and Utility Plan dated October 25, 1991
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