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MOUNDS VIEW PLANNING COMMISSION
January 22, 2003 -- 7:00 P.M.
REGULAR MEETING AGENDA
1. Call to Order 2. Roll Call 3. Approve Minutes: December 18, 2002 4. Citizens Requests and Comments on Items Not on the Agenda
CITIZENS: BEFORE SPEAKING, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM,
AND GIVE YOUR FULL NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE MINUTES
5. Continued Discussion Regarding Request to Restrict Parking Along the East Side of
Greenfield Avenue, South of County Road I
APPLICANTS: YOUR ATTENDANCE AT THIS MEETING IS REQUESTED.
PLEASE NOTIFY THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT AT
763-717-4020 IF YOU ARE UNABLE TO ATTEND.
6. Next Planning Commission Meeting: February 5, 2003
7. Adjournment to Agenda Session
AGENDA SESSION
1. Review Minutes from January 8, 2003 Planning Commission Meeting
2. Staff Reports
3. Chairperson and Planning Commissioners’ Reports
PROCEEDINGS OF THE MOUNDS VIEW PLANNING COMMISSION
CITY OF MOUNDS VIEW
RAMSEY COUNTY, MINNESOTA
Regular Meeting
January 8, 2003
Mounds View City Hall
2401 Highway 10, Mounds View, MN 55112
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1. Call to Order
The meeting was called to order by Chair Stevenson at 7:00 p.m., January 8, 2003.
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2. Roll Call
Members Present: Commissioners Stevenson, Scotch, Zwirn, Miller, Hegland, Johnson and
Song.
Members Absent: None.
Also Present: Community Development Director Ericson
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Index to Minutes Page
Election of Officers 2
Consideration of a Request to Restrict Parking Along
the East Side of Greenfield Avenue South of County Road I 2
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3. Approve Minutes
a. December 4, 2002
MOTION/SECOND: Miller/Zwirn. To Approve the Minutes of the Planning Commission for
December 4, 2002 as Presented.
Ayes – 7 Nays – 0 Motion carried.
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Mounds View Planning Commission January 8, 2003
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4. Citizens Requests and Comments on Items Not on the Agenda
None.
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5. Election of Officers
Community Development Director Ericson indicated that according to the bylaws of the
Commission, the Chairperson is to request nominations for chair and vice chair.
MOTION/SECOND: Miller/Scotch. To Nominate Gary Stevenson as Chair of the Planning
Commission.
Ayes – 7 Nays – 0 Motion carried.
MOTION/SECOND: Johnson/Stevenson. To Nominate Jean Miller as Vice Chair of the
Planning Commission.
Ayes – 7 Nays – 0 Motion carried.
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6. Consideration of a Request to Restrict Parking Along the East Side of Greenfield
Avenue South of County Road I.
Community Development Director Ericson indicated that he had spoken to Mr. Farrell
concerning the parking issue and Mr. Farrell has offered to add four additional spaces on site but
that would require a revision to the variance to allow encroachment into the Greenfield right-of-
way to gain the additional spots. He then indicated that revision of the variance along with a
development agreement and a limited use agreement for parking in the right of way would need
to be drafted and executed.
Director Ericson indicated that Staff looked at the parking at Sam’s and Sam’s is either short of
parking or at the minimum so there is not an option to lease spaces from them. Additionally, the
property owner was not interested in leasing parking.
Director Ericson indicated that Mr. Farrell has indicated he would add four stalls to bring him up
to the 19 that would have been required but would like the Commission to agree not to post no
parking signs on the street if he adds the parking stalls. He then said that the City would enter
into a development agreement with Mr. Farrell binding him to providing the four spots when the
asphalt plants open.
Commissioners agreed that it was worth checking into the logistics of adding the four stalls to
the site.
Mounds View Planning Commission January 8, 2003
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Director Ericson indicated he would consult the City’s engineer as well as public works to see if
there are any issues to be aware of with utilities.
Commissioner Zwirn indicated he was not willing to give up the right to deny parking on the east
side of Greenfield as he lives next door to the property and is not sure how the property owner
could get the extra stalls without completely losing the green space.
Director Ericson agreed that bringing the parking lot all the way out to the street would make it
look a little overwhelming.
Commissioner Johnson suggested utilizing the recommendation of the police from the last
meeting to post a certain number of feet from the stop sign. He then said he has an issue with a
property owner who purchases a building knowing he has 16 employees as well as an intention
to rent out to other businesses. It should have been apparent that there would be an issue with
parking and he should not have assumed that his business parking could be accommodated on
the street.
Director Ericson indicated Staff would go out to the site and do the measurements to see if it is
feasible to add the stalls. He then said that there would need to be a minimum of 18 feet plus
green space to make it work. He further indicated that Staff would provide the necessary
documentation for Commission review at the next meeting.
Commissioner Hegland indicated he would like to see a plan before voting on the matter.
Director Ericson indicated he would provide a drawing of the proposed stalls so that the
Commission could visualize the site.
Commissioner Hegland commented that he thinks the property owner is over utilizing the space
and he is not sure the City should allow that to continue by amending the variance and allowing
additional parking.
Commissioner Johnson commented that the business owner should have known how many
spaces he would need based on his intentions for the building.
Director Ericson asked for clarification of Commissioner Hegland’s comments concerning not
amending the variance.
The Commission indicated it would like to see the proposal for the solution before deciding
whether to allow an amendment to the variance.
Commissioner Johnson indicated he was not pleased with the comments of the property owner at
the last meeting indicating that the City was trying to run new businesses out of Mounds View.
He further commented that he is one Commissioner who does a lot for businesses in Mounds
View and he takes exception to that comment.
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Commissioner Zwirn indicated he had not said much during the discussions because he has other
issues with Mr. Farrell. He then said that Mr. Farrell has a lot of flowery things to say about
working with the City but he has found that not to be true. He further commented that there are
other issues such as the building not being maintained and those issues are not addressed though
the property owner makes representations that he will resolve the issues.
Commissioner Johnson indicated that is why he wants the development agreement and resolution
for no parking if the additional spots do not work.
Commissioner Zwirn indicated the State Farm office has two vehicles, the title company utilizes
two or three spots and the property owner drives separately from his wife using two stalls and his
business has sixteen employees. He then said that parking on the street is detrimental to him
entering and exiting his driveway during the day as traffic flow has to stop because two cars
cannot get through if there are vehicles parked on the east side of Greenfield. He further
indicated that the neighbor to the south has issues getting in and out of the driveway as well.
Commissioner Miller asked if any of the traffic could be attributed to the apartments.
Commissioner Zwirn indicated that the vast majority of the vehicles are people going into the
business property. He then said that rarely on weekends there are vehicles that park on the street
but the police usually tag the vehicles so parking is controlled on weekends.
Commissioner Hegland said he felt there should be other solutions to the situation such as
limiting the number of employees at the facility at any one time and he has not heard any other
solutions from the property owner.
Director Ericson commented that, if street parking were eliminated, the property owner would be
forced to be more proactive in working on a solution.
Commissioner Johnson commented that in past years business owners were required to come
before Council for a permit for their businesses and, if that practice were still in effect, this type
of situation would not happen.
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7. Next Planning Commission Meeting: January 22, 2003
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8. Adjournment to Agenda Session
There being no further business before the Planning Commission, Chair Stevenson adjourned the
meeting at 7:22 p.m.
(The meeting immediately adjourned to the Agenda Session)
Respectfully submitted,
Mounds View Planning Commission January 8, 2003
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Jim Ericson
Community Development Director
Transcribed by:
Joan Lenzmeier
TimeSaver Off Site Secretarial, Inc.
Item # 5
City of Mounds View
Planning Commission Report
Meeting Date: January 22, 2003
Title: UPDATE REGARDING THE POSSIBILITY OF POSTING
GREENFIELD AVENUE SOUTH OF COUNTY ROAD I “NO
PARKING”
Introduction:
This issue was discussed at the Planning Commission’s meeting on January 8, 2003 and at
meetings previous to that in 2002. Direction had been given to have the property owner of 2402
County Road I work with staff to come up with a suitable resolution to the parking issue. Prior
to the meeting on January 8, Mr. Farrell contacted staff and indicated he would be willing to
expand the parking lot by an additional four stalls toward Greenfield Avenue, although this
would result in the loss of green-space and would necessitate a revision to the variance approved
for the site. Furthermore, if expanded by an additional four stalls, the parking lot would encroach
onto the Greenfield right of way, necessitating approval of a Limited Use Agreement.
Discussion:
As was discussed at your last meeting, the sharing or leasing of parking stalls from Tom Thumb
(Now Sam’s Tobacco) has been eliminated as an option. The site, which supports the
convenience store and a Laundromat, has barely enough parking to serve its own needs. Further,
the owner of Sam’s Tobacco has indicated he would be unwilling to make spots available for
lease on the site.
Regarding the expansion of the parking lot, Mr. Farrell indicated that because the asphalt
company would be coming out in the spring to lay the second layer of asphalt on his parking lot,
it would not be cost-prohibitive to expand the lot at the same time. To expand the lot to
accommodate four additional stalls, the lot would be extended 18 more feet toward Greenfield
Avenue. There is currently 28 feet of green-space between the lot and the street; the expansion
would reduce the green-space to 10 feet. It appears as though the parking lot is currently 11 feet
off the property line. With the expansion, the lot would encroach 7 feet into the right of way.
To allow for this expansion, three things would need to occur: First, the original resolution
approving the setback variance would need to be amended to allow for a zero-foot parking lot
setback. Second, Mr. Farrell would need to execute a limited use agreement which would allow
him the “limited” use of the right of way. The agreement would also indicate that the City would
not be liable for any damage to the parking lot in the event of a utility or street repair. Last, as
discussed by the Planning Commission, Mr. Farrell would need to execute a development
agreement regarding the expansion which would also contain language as to the building, its
maintenance and operation.
Greenfield Ave Report
Jan 22, 2003
Page 2
The drawbacks of such an expansion are two-fold. From an aesthetic perspective, one could
argue that the reduction of green-space and the encroachment of the parking lot toward
Greenfield would amount to a degradation of the physical appearance of this site. (I was not able
to manipulate photos to show what an expanded parking lot might look like.) The other
drawback regarding this potential expansion is that the City would be deviating from its rules to
grant a further expansion of the variance. The property owner caused the hardship in that he
bought the property knowing full well the parking limitations.
Recommendation:
The Planning Commission needs to first determine if the on-street parking problems rise to the
level whereby posting the street ‘No Parking” would be appropriate. Second, assuming that
overflow parking will occur regardless, the Planning Commission needs to determine if an
expansion of the parking lot would be warranted, given the above considerations. While an
expansion has been shown to be physically possible, that does not mean it’s appropriate.
The Planning Commission must address, weigh and balance the various interests of the
residential property owners, the multiple-family residents and owners, the business owner (Mr.
Farrell) and the safety of the general public using the street. Keep in mind that a
recommendation to post the street or portion thereof as “No Parking” is just that—a
recommendation. The City Council makes the final determination. If reducing the number of
vehicles parked on the street is the ultimate goal, then considering a variance to expand the
parking lot would be one way to accomplish this; however staff would recommend that any
variance be applied for by the property owner through the normal process—it should not be
initiated by the Planning Commission.
Given all that, the Planning Commission may choose to act on the attached resolution,
Resolution 718-03, recommending posting the east side of Greenfield Avenue north of the
apartment complex driveway as “No Parking from Here to Corner.”
James Ericson
Community Development Director
Attachments:
1. Resolution 718-03
MOUNDS VIEW PLANNING COMMISSION
RESOLUTION NO. 718-03
CITY OF MOUNDS VIEW
COUNTY OF RAMSEY
STATE OF MINNESOTA
RESOLUTION RECOMMENDING INSTALLATION OF A “NO PARKING FROM
HERE TO CORNER” SIGN ON THE EAST SIDE OF GREENFIELD AVENUE NORTH
OF THE NORTHERNMOST ACCESS TO THE GREENFIELD ESTATES PARKING
LOT, FOR PUBLIC SAFETY PURPOSES
WHEREAS, the Mounds View Planning Commission has reviewed the parking situation
on Greenfield Avenue between County Road I and Bronson Drive in response to complaints from
residents in this area; and,
WHEREAS, the business located at 2402 County Road I consistently and regularly
overflows its parking lot resulting in employees and customers parking on Greenfield Avenue;
and,
WHEREAS, the west side of Greenfield Avenue has already been posted as No Parking
to control and restrict on-street parking on this block.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED that the Planning Commission of the City
of Mounds View, finding there to be sufficient cause and in the interest of public safety,
recommends that a “No Parking from Here to Corner” sign be installed on the east side of
Greenfield Avenue just north of the northernmost driveway access to the Greenfield Estates
apartment complex.
BE IT FINALLY RESOLVED that the Planning Commission directs staff to forward
this resolution to the City Council prior to approval of the minutes.
Adopted this 22nd day of January, 2003.
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Gary Stevenson, Chairperson
ATTEST
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James Ericson, Community Development Director
(SEAL)