HomeMy WebLinkAbout11-06-1996 • MOUNDS VIEW PLANNING COMMISSION
NOVEMBER 6, 1996
7:00 P.M.
REGULAR MEETING
AGENDA
1. Call to Order
2. Roll Call
3. Review and Approval of Minutes
4. Citizens Requests and Comments on Items Not on the Agenda
CITIZENS: BEFORE SPEAKING,PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM,AND GIVE
YOUR FULL NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE MINUTES
5. Planning Case No.461-96,462-96,and 463-96
2535-2585 Highway 10
Applicant: Paster Enterprises(dba: Mounds View Assoc. LLP)
Public Hearing Item:
Request for approval of variances in parking ratios,and in sign height and sign area.
• Recommendation:Approval of variance in parking ratios; Conditional approval of variance
in sign height and sign area.
6. Planning Case No.464-96
2375-2395 Highway 10
Applicant: Saturn Development
Public Informational Meeting Item:
Request for approval of an amended conditional use permit to allow expansion of an existing
auto dealership,the addition of a car wash and expansion of available repair services.
Recommendation: Approval
7. Staff Reports/Information Items
• a. • Planning Case No. 460-96:Auto Central; put on hold by applicant
b. Items for Planning Commission Agenda on November 20
c. City Council Actions
d. Memorandum to City Council on Improving Communication
e. Planning Commissioners Journal
8. Chairperson and Planning Commissioners Reports
• 9. Adjournment
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PROCEEDINGS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION
CITY OF MOUNDS VIEW
RAMSEY COUNTY, MINNESOTA
Special Meeting
October 9, 1996
Mounds View City Hall
2401 Highway 10, Mounds View, MN 55112
The Mounds View Planning Commission was 1. Call to Order
called to order by Acting Chair Stevenson at
7:03 p.m. on October 9, 1996.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Commissioners 2. Roll Call
Johnston, Miller, Brooks, Obert, Brasaemle and
Acting Chair Stevenson. (Chair Peterson had
an excused absence.)
• ALSO PRESENT: Community Development
Director Sheldon, Planning Associate Ericson
and Recording Secretary Benesch.
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This meeting was called to order to discuss 3. Consideration of
Special Project Case No. SP-008-96. Director Resolution No. 474-96
Sheldon began the discussion by explaining Recommending to the
this case concerns a request by a property City Council Adoption of
owner in Mounds View for an ordinance Ordinance No. 590,
amendment. The applicant, Dan Moon, was Amending the Zoning
present. Director Sheldon noted that this item Code, Title 1100
had been discussed by the Planning
Commission on several occasions. She stated
that this item related to setbacks between
parking lots that serve churches and other non-
residential uses and adjacent residential
property. The original request by Mr. Moon
was 15 feet; the City's current requirement is 5
feet. Director Sheldon continued by saying that
an ordinance had been drafted which not only
addressed that issue but additional items as
well. She stated that Staff is recommending,
based in part by the Planning Commission's
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conversation at the last meeting, that the
dimensions for the parking lot setbacks be 20
feet for site of 2.5 acres or less and 30 feet for
sites over 2.5 acres. She continued by stating
that the other major item in the ordinance had
to do with site sizes for non-residential uses in
residential districts and that Staff is
recommending site sizes be increased to one
acre.
Director Sheldon noted that after Planning
Commission's review of the proposed
ordinance, Staff is recommending that this
ordinance be forwarded to the City Council with
a recommendation of approval to keep within
the 120 day time frame for action on this item.
The Planning Commission then reviewed the
proposed ordinance and made some minor
•
changes. Commissioner Miller was concerned
with Item (b) on Page two, noting that there are
usually two side yards, and (b) says not less
than 30 feet from the lot line if the lot if on the
corner. Commission Miller inquired if we
needed to identify what side yard we are taking
about? Director Sheldon noted that (b) does
refer back to the chart, but that it is the same
side yard that abuts the street.
The Planning Commission discussed minimum
setbacks for accessory structures such as
sheds, fences and garbage enclosures on
through lots in residential districts and it was a
consensus that the City would, for the time
being, continue with its current practice of not
requiring them to have a front yard setback off
the street in the rear of the lot. They were also
concerned if the ordinance was changed to the
thirty foot setback, would the existing structures
in Mounds View be considered legal non- •
conforming uses? They also discussed
accessory buildings in non-residential districts.
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The ordinance proposes prohibiting accessory
buildings in front of the principal building and a
ten foot minimum from the rear property line for
building of 864 square feet or less. The
Planning Commission directed that the size of
the building be reduced to 400 square feet.
It was decided, under Parking Areas, to place
the R-1 and R-2 districts separate from the
remaining residential districts.
Commissioner Miller noted on Page three, item
(b), should read, of five feet (5') from any eil lot
lines...".
Director Sheldon went on to Page 4 noting that
the only correction is adding the 15 foot parking
setback from the street in all zoning districts
111, over B-1 and it was noted that there would be
several non-conforming uses with the proposed
15 foot setback. The Planning Commission
decided to remove this addition from the
proposed ordinance. It was also discussed
whether this setback should be added if it is a
parking lot for a multiple family building
(currently there is a five foot setback). The
Commissioners were concerned with some of
the fourplexes located in the City that would be
in non-compliance. It was decided that they
would leave it at 5 feet for now and may
address this issue at a later time.
On Page 6, in the table, R-3 Townhouses, was
moved down to be included with the R-4
section. It was also discussed whether or not
to add"twin home" to the section with duplexes.
On Pages 7 and 8, in Section 6, minimum lot
area of not less than one acres was added for
non-residential uses as conditional uses in
certain districts of not less than one acre was
added.
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Page 9, Section 11, concerns parking areas for
- - non-residential uses. Director Sheldon noted
that this is the section where they are trying to
work out something for the non-conforming
parking lots and would like residents to be able
to use their existing parking lots unless when
they go to remove the driveway or reconstruct
it, if they can move the driveway to meet the
new requirement and not lose their required
parking, they would need to do so.
Some corrections were noted to the proposed
resolution as follows: on Page 1, the second to
last line met should read "meet", the paragraph
above that should end with an ";and" and in the
4th whereas replace the word "improvements"
with "changes".
Motion/Second: Brasaemle/Miller to approve •
Resolution No. 474-96 recommending to the
City Council adoption of Ordinance No. 590, an
ordinance amending the Mounds View Zoning
Code, Title 1100, as amended.
It was also noted that the wording, "BE IT
FURTHER RESOLVED that this resolution be
forwarded to the City Council prior to approval
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Commissioner Johnston inquired as to how Ms.
Sheldon came up with the 2-1/2 acre figure for
lot area and Director Sheldon replied that it was
based on the City's existing church sites.
6 ayes 0 nays
Motion Carried
There being no further business before the 4. Adjournment
Planning Commission, Acting Chair Stevenson
adjourned the meeting at 7:47 p.m.
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Respectfully submitted,
Pamela Sheldon
Community Development Director
Item #5A
• REQUEST FOR PLANNING COMMISSION ACTION
Meeting Date: November 6, 1996
Staff Report by: Pamela Sheldon, Community Development Director
Planning Case 461-96, 463-96
File No.:
Request: The original request from the applicant, Mounds View Assoc. LLP,
was for a conditional use permit for the joint use of parking
facilities and driveways as is allowed by Section 1121.15 of the
Zoning Code, and for a variance in the required parking ratios for
the Mounds View Shopping Center. After the Planning
• Commission's meeting on October 9, 1996, the applicant is now
requesting a variance in the required parking ratios only, and the
request for joint use of parking facilities has been dropped.
Petitioner: Mounds View Assoc. LLP
Location: 2535-2585 Highway 10
• PIN No. 07-30-23-11-0079
Zoning/Land Use: B-4
Mounds View Square Shopping Center
Applicable Regulations: The regulations applicable to these requests are stated and
discussed under the analysis section of this report.
Attachments: Zoning Map
Planning Application
Letter from Paster Enterprises dated October 3, 1996
Background:
This report serves as a supplement to the staff report prepared for your October 9, 1996
meeting. At that meeting, the Planning Commission indicated that their preferred way of
handling the parking situation at Mounds View Square was through a variance in the
parking ratios. This report has been prepared based on that direction. (A copy of the
previous staff report will be available at your November 6 meeting for the Planning
Commission's reference.)
• As is noted in our earlier staff report, the applicant is proposing to add 5,000 additional
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Case No. 461-96:Mounds View Square
November 6, 1996
Page 2
square feet to the main shopping center building,just south of Mario's Video, and to
replace the two existing, freestanding restaurants with larger dinner house style restaurants
each having up to 6,000 square feet. The existing Hardee's contains 3,750 square feet;
the existing Bridgeman's Ice Cream Restaurant also contains 3,750 square feet. The net
increase in square footage on the site would be 9,500 square feet. Expansion of the
restaurants and the retail building would eliminate 23 parking spaces. The end result
would be a shopping center with 111,775 square feet and 454 parking spaces. The
parking on site when compared with the gross square footage in the shopping center,
provides a ratio of one space per 246 square feet or 4.06 parking spaces per 1000 square
feet of shopping center.
Analysis!
Recommendation:
Our previous report calculated the parking requirements for Mounds View Square using
several different methods and ratios for retail square footage and restaurants. The current
proposal is to work from the existing base of 477 parking spaces as the requirement for
the existing square footage in the shopping center. The square footage includes the .
following:
Existing Existing+Expansion
Use Square Footage Square Footage
Retail: 62,005 66,005 (+4,000)
Storage: 16,645 17,645 (+1,000)
Dining: 8,050 11,290(+3240 net)
Kitchen: 6,060 7,320 (+1260 net)
Mall/Maintenance/Restrooms 9,275 9,275
Total 102,035 111,535
The expansion of the shopping center would remove 4,800 square feet in dining space and
2,700 square feet in kitchen space, and add 4,000 square feet in retail, 1,000 square feet in
storage, 8,040 square feet in dining, and 3,960 square feet in kitchen space. The total
square footage in the center with the changes and additions would 111,535 square feet.
The addition of building square footage would remove parking spaces so the total on the
site would be reduced from 477 to 454.
The applicant is requesting a variance in the parking ratio used for retail space, from 10
parking spaces per 1000 square feet to 4.5 per 1000 square feet, and in the ratios for
restaurants. The current ratio required for restaurants is 1 parking space per 40 square
feet of dining area, and 1 space per 80 square feet of kitchen area. The proposed ratio is 1
space per 80 square feet for both dining and kitchen space for dinner house type
restaurants, and the current ratio for fast food restaurants. No parking would be required
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November 6, 1996
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for square footage in storage areas, maintenance, restrooms, or the mall space. If these
ratios are applied to the square footage being removed and being added, a total of 492
spaces would be required as follows:
Base 477 spaces
Retail +4,000 sq.ft. x 4.5/1000 sq.ft.= +18
Storage +1,000 sq.ft. N/A
Dining -4,800 sq.ft. in fast food x 1/40 sq.ft. = -120
+8040 in dinner house x 1/80 sq.ft. = +101
Kitchen -2700 sq.ft. in fast food x 1/80 sq.ft.= - 34
+3960 sq.ft. in dinner house x 1/80 sq.ft. = + 50
492
The difference between the number of parking spaces remaining on the site (454) and the
number required by these ratios(492) is 38 spaces. The staff report for your October 9
meeting showed that the number required was 457 spaces, which meant the difference
was three spaces. However, we discovered a mathematical error in our calculations.
The square footage in kitchen area for Hardee's and Bridgeman's which was being
• deducted was overstated and so the difference was lower in the October 9 report The
direction from the Planning Commission at that meeting was to add the three spaces by
restriping a portion of the parking lot and using compact spaces. Fifty one spaces would
have to be converted from standard to compact size to gain three compact spaces. There
is a limit of 10% on the number of spaces which can be compact size. The 54 compact
spaces would exceed this limit. Therefore, even if the difference were only three spaces,
restriping to compact size would not gain the three spaces needed. The number of spaces
needed, based on the ratios, however, is 492 spaces.
Staff has concluded that it is still necessary to consider both the variance in parking ratios
and the conditional use permit for joint use of parking in determining if 454 parking spaces
is sufficient for this site.
Variance in Parking Ratios (Planning Case No. 463-96)
The criteria for granting of variances are stated in Section 1125.02 Subd. 2. Staff has
prepared a resolution recommending approval of the variance in parking ratios, and has
included findings of fact which the Planning Commission may want to consider. (Please
see attached resolution.)
Staff Recommendation: Approve the attached resolution allowing a variance in the
• parking ratios applicable to Mounds View Square Shopping Center.
Planning Commission
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Case No. 461-96: Mounds View Square
November 6, 1996
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Conditional Use Permit (Planning Case No. 461-96)
Section 1121.15 allows parking requirements to be adjusted, wit approval of a
conditional use permit, where there are two or more uses located on the same property
which have offsetting parking demands, i.e. certain uses are primarily daytime uses and
other uses are primarily nighttime or Sunday uses. Uses listed as primarily daytime uses
are:
• banks, business offices, retail stores, personal service shops, household equipment
or furniture shops, clothing or shoe repair or service shops, manufacturing,
wholesale and similar uses.
Uses listed as primarily nighttime or Sunday uses include:
• auditoriums incidental to a public or parochial school, churches, bowling alley,
dance hall, theaters, bar or restaurant.
Section 1121.15 allows up to 50% of the off-street parking facilities needed for nighttime .
and Sunday uses to be provided by the parking provided for daytime uses, and up to 50%
of the off street parking facilities needed for daytime uses to be provided by the parking
provided for nighttime and Sunday uses. Mounds View Square includes both types of
uses. Staff has calculated how the use of joint parking would affect the parking spaces
required, using the parking ratios which would be approved under the variance requested
by the applicant. These calculations are shown in the chart below.
The chart shows that an 8% reduction in parking for daytime and for nighttime uses would
result in the requirement being 454 spaces as is proposed by the applicant.
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November 6, 1996
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Parking Required Using Parking Ratios
(as per Variance Application)
Parking from Parking from Total
Daytime Uses Nighttime Uses
#of Spaces 297(52%) 274(48%) 571 (100%)
Required
(from scratch)
#of Spaces 256(52%) 236(48%) 492(100%)
Required
(using 477 as base,and 492 as cap
#of Spaces 128 128 256
Required if Maximum
Reduction Allowed
(50%)
• By what percentage does total 8%
required(492)need to be reduced to 256 x.08=21
reach#proposed to be provided by 236 x.08= 18
applicant: 454 spaces Total =39
Reduction needed=38 spaces
The criteria for granting of conditional use permits for joint use of parking are stated in
Section 1125.02 Subd. 2. Staff has prepared a resolution recommending approval of this
conditional use permit, and has included findings of fact which the Planning Commission
may want to consider. (Please see attached resolution.) The Planning Commission's
action on the conditional use permit would be a recommendation to City Council, and the
case would be forwarded to them for action.
Staff Recommendation: Approve the attached resolution recommending approval of a
conditional use permit for joint use of parking for the Mounds View Square Shopping
Center.
cc: John Streeter, Paster Enterprises, 2227 University Avenue, St. Paul MN 551141677
FAX: 646-1389
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MOUNDS VIEW PLANNING COMMISSION .
RESOLUTION NO. 485-96
CITY OF MOUNDS VIEW
COUNTY OF RAMSEY
STATE OF MINNESOTA
RESOLUTION APPROVING A VARIANCE REQUEST IN THE PARKING RATIOS
APPLICABLE TO THE MOUNDS VIEW SQUARE SHOPPING CENTER AT 2535-2585
HIGHWAY 10; PLANNING CASE NO. 463-96.
WHEREAS, Mounds View Square Assoc. LLP has applied for a variance in the parking
ratios applicable to the Mounds View Square Shopping Center at 2535-2585 Highway 10, which
property is described as follows:
Part lying northeasterly of the centerline of State Trunk Highway 10 of NE 1/4
of N 1/4 (Subject to Roads and Highways) in Section 7, Township 30, Range 23
WHEREAS, the Mounds View Square Shopping Center is located in the B-3 zoning
district; and,
WHEREAS, the site plan for the Mounds View Square Shopping Center was approved in •
1989 which the provision of 503 parking spaces; and,
WHEREAS, the property owner obtained approval of a variance in parking requirements
to allow the use of 26 parking spaces for construction of trash dumpster enclosures, which
resulted in the reduction of parking on the site from 503 to 477 spaces; and,
WHEREAS, the City has determined by previous decisions that the 477 parking spaces
are sufficient to provide parking for the square footages and uses approved for the Mounds View
Square Shopping Center; and,
WHEREAS, the property owner is proposing to make the following changes in square
footages and uses on the site at some time in the future:
Existing Existing+Expansion
Use Square Footage Square Footage
Retail: 62,005 66,005 (+4,000)
Storage: 16,645 17,645 (+1,000)
Dining: 8,050 11,290(+3240 net)
Kitchen: 6,060 7,320 (+1260 net)
Mall/Maintenance/Restrooms 9,275 9,275
Total 102,035 111,535 .
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November 6, 1996
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WHEREAS, the change in the square footages result from the removal of the Hardee's
and Bridgeman's Restaurants (4,800 sq.ft. in dining and 2,700 sq.ft. in kitchen) and the addition
of two larger dinner house style restaurants, and the addition of 4,000 square feet of retail space
and 1,000 square feet of storage space in the main retail building; and,
WHEREAS, the Mounds View Planning Commission has reviewed the request of Mounds
View Square Assoc. LLP to allow a variance in the parking ratios applicable to the Mounds View
Square Shopping Center, as follows:
Retail Space 4.5 spaces per 1000 square feet
Dinner House Style Restaurants 1 space per 80 square feet of dining or kitchen area
Storage,Etc no parking requirement for areas in storage,maintenance,
restrooms or the enclosed mall area
WHEREAS, the Planning Commission does hereby make the following findings of fact
regarding the requirements for granting of variances as set forth in Section 1125.02 Subd. 2 of
the Mounds View Zoning Code:
• a. Exceptional or extraordinary circumstances apply to the property which do not apply
generally to other properties in the same zone or vicinity and result from lot size of shape,
topography or other circumstances over which the owners of the property since the effective
date hereof have had no control.
c. That the special conditions or circumstances do not result from the actions of the applicant.
Mounds View Square is the largest shopping center in Mounds View, and it is in this
shopping center that the effect of a higher-than-typical parking ratio, established by the
City, has its greatest effect. The shopping center has been operating successfully at a
much lower ratio (4.67 spaces per 1000 gross square feet)than is required for retail space
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study completed in 1989 by Benshoof and Associates reported that the Urban Land
Institute performed in-depth research on a combined total of approximately 170 shopping
centers. (This study is a part of the file on the rezoning for Hardee's Restaurant.) This
research showed that a parking ratio of 4.0 spaces per 1000 square feet is adequate for all
but the busiest 19 hours of the year. The applicant has not caused the multiplier effect of a
higher-than-typical parking ratio on the size of his shopping center.
The development of dinner house style restaurants is not anticipated by the parking
regulations which require one parking space for every 40 square feet of dining area and
one parking space for every 80 square feet of kitchen. Typical ratios for dinner house
• restaurants are one space for every 80 square feet of gross square footage, to recognize
the slower turnover of customers.
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e. That the variance requested is the minimum variance which would alleviate the hardship.
Economic conditions alone shall not be considered a hardship.
The parking ratios for retail square footage in the Mounds View Zoning Code create an
excessive requirement for shopping centers of this size. The City's parking ratio at one
space per 100 feet is more than twice the ratio used in other nearby jurisdictions, and
when applied to a shopping center of over 100,000 square feet, creates a burdensome
requirement. The more typical requirement is 4.0 - 5.0 spaces per 1000 square feet.
Allowing the use of 4.5 spaces per 1000 square feet for retail space is the minimum
variance needed to address the hardship. The parking ratios for restaurants also create an
excessive requirement for dinner house style restaurants, since these restaurants have a
slower turnover of customers. The minimum adjustment needed in parking ratios for
dinner house style restaurants is to require one parking space for each 80 square feet of
gross floor area.
b. The literal interpretation of the provisions of this Title would deprive the applicant of rights
commonly enjoyed by other properties in the same district under the terms of this Title.
d. That granting the variance requested will not confer on the applicant any special privilege
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that is denied by this Title to owners of other lands,structures or buildings in the same
district.
Owners of shopping centers similar in size to Mounds View Square and of dinner house
style restaurants would face the same difficulty that the applicant is experiencing due to
the higher-than-typical parking ratio for these uses in the Zoning Code. Using a ratio of
10 spaces per 1000 square feet for retail space, and 1 space per 40 square feet for dining
space requires an excessive investment in parking which is especially acute with the
shopping center of this size.
f. The variance would not be materially detrimental to the purpose of this Title or to other
property in the same zone.
g. The proposed variance will not impair an adequate supply of light and air to adjacent
property or substantially increase the congestion of the public streets or increase the danger
of fire or endanger the public safety or substantially diminish or impair property values.
The existing shopping center contains 102,035 square feet and has 477 parking spaces, or
a ratio of 4.67 parking spaces per 1000 square feet. The applicant has nine shopping
centers, of which four are in the same size range as Mounds View Square. The average
parking ratio for these four centers is 4.72 parking spaces per 1000 gross square feet
regardless of use. The successful operation of these centers illustrates the fact that using a •
ratio of 4.5 spaces per 1000 square feet for retail space is an appropriate ratio and will not
be detrimental to the purposes of the Zoning Code. Use of a ratio of 10 spaces per 1000
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square feet is burdensome. The parking lot for Mounds View Square is of sufficient size,
and the shopping center contains nighttime and daytime uses with offsetting parking
demands that no overflow parking or adverse effect on adjacent properties is anticipated.
The shopping center is separated from surrounding uses by streets.
WHEREAS, the Planning Commission does hereby find that the criteria for granting of a
variance in this case have been met.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED that the Mounds View Planning Commission
does hereby approve a variance in the parking ratios applicable to the Mounds View Square
Shopping Center as follows:
1. The parking ratios applicable to the addition and deletion of square footage proposed by
the applicant in Planning Case No. 461-96 and 463-96, and as shown in#2 below, shall be
as follows:
Retail Space 4.5 spaces per 1000 square feet
Dinner House Style Restaurants 1 space per 80 square feet of dining or kitchen area
• Storage,.Etc no parking requirement for areas in storage,maintenance,
restrooms or the enclosed mall area
2. The existing 477 parking spaces on the property are deemed adequate to serve the square
footage and uses in place as of this date, which include the following:
Existing Existing+Expansion
Use Square Footage Square Footage
Retail: 62,005 66,005 (+4,000)
Storage: 16,645 17,645 (+1,000)
Dining: 8,050 11,290(+3240 net)
Kitchen: 6,060 7,320 (+1260 net)
Mall/Maintenance/Restrooms 9,275 9,275
Total 102,035 111,535
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3. Prior to issuance of any building permits for changes in square footage at the Mounds
View Square Shopping Center, other than interior remodeling, the property owner shall
obtain approval for development review as provided in Section 1006.06 of the Mounds
View Municipal Code.
Adopted this 6th day of November, 1996.
Jerry Peterson, Chairperson
ATTEST:
Pamela Sheldon
Community Development Director
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. MOUNDS VIEW PLANNING COMMISSION
RESOLUTION NO. 486-96
CITY OF MOUNDS VIEW
COUNTY OF RAMSEY
STATE OF MINNESOTA
RESOLUTION APPROVING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR THE JOINT USE
OF PARKING FACILITIES AT MOUNDS VIEW SQUARE SHOPPING CENTER AT
2535-2585 HIGHWAY 10; PLANNING CASE NO. 461-96.
WHEREAS, Mounds View Square Assoc. LLP has applied for a conditional use permit to
allow joint use of parking facilities at Mounds View Square Shopping Center at 25352585
Highway 10, which property is described as follows:
Part lying northeasterly of the centerline of State Trunk Highway 10 of NE 1/4
of N 1/4 (Subject to Roads and Highways) in Section 7, Township 30, Range 23
WHEREAS, the Mounds View Square Shopping Center is located in the B-3 zoning
district; and,
WHEREAS, the site plan for the Mounds View Square Shopping Center was approved in
• 1989 which the provision of 503 parking spaces; and,
WHEREAS, the property owner obtained approval of a variance in parking requirements
to allow the use of 26 parking spaces for construction of trash dumpster enclosures, which
resulted in the reduction of parking on the site from 503 to 477 spaces; and,
WHEREAS, the City has determined by previous decisions that the 477 parking spaces
are sufficient to provide parking for the square footages and uses approved for the Mounds View
Square Shopping Center; and,
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footages and uses on the site at some time in the future:
Existing Existing+Expansion
Use Square Footage Square Footage
Retail: 62,005 66,005 (+4,000)
Storage: 16,645 17,645 (+1,000)
Dining: 8,050 11,290(+3240 net)
Kitchen: 6,060 7,320 (+1260 net)
Mall/Maintenance/Restrooms 9,275 9,275
Total 102,035 111,535
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November 6, 1996
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WHEREAS, the changes in square footages result from the removal of the Hardee's and
Bridgeman's Restaurants (4,800 sq.ft. in dining and 2,700 sq.ft. in kitchen) and the addition of
two larger dinner house style restaurants, and the addition of 4,000 square feet of retail space and
1,000 square feet of storage space in the main retail building; and,
WHEREAS, the Planning Commission has recommended that a variance be granted in the
parking ratios applicable to this property such that the parking required for the expanded
shopping center would be 492 spaces; and,
WHEREAS, the Mounds View Zoning Code allows for a conditional use permit to be
granted for joint use of parking where there are offsetting daytime and nighttime uses; and,
WHEREAS, the Planning Commission does hereby make the following findings of fact
regarding the requirements for granting of a conditional use permit for joint use of parking as set
forth in Section 1121.15 of the Mounds View Zoning Code:
(a) The building or use for which application is being made to utilize the off-street parking
facilities provided by another building or use shall be located within three hundred feet
(300')of such parking facilities and not separated by a public way.
All of the uses proposed as part of this joint parking arrangement are also part of a
coordinated shopping center. Because of the distribution of retail space and the parking, it
is feasible for customers to find parking within 300 feet of their destination. A condition
has been included in this recommendation of approval that would require employees to
park in spaces behind the main retail building, to assure that the maximum parking is
available for customers.
(b) The applicant shall show that there is not substantial conflict in the principal operating hours
of the two(2)buildings or uses for which joint use of off-street parking facilities is
proposed.
The Zoning Code acknowledges that restaurants are primarily nighttime uses, and retail
businesses are primarily daytime uses. It should also be noted that, because of its size and
the variety of tenants, customers at Mounds View Square would be expected to combine
trips and use several different businesses. An allowance for some overlap in parking
requirements is logical in a shopping center of this size.
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November 6, 1996
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(c) A properly drawn legal instrument,executed by the parties concerned for joint use of off-
street
ffstreet parking facilities,duly approved as to form and manner of execution by the City
Attorney,shall be filed with the City Clerk-Administrator and recorded with the Register of
Deeds,Ramsey County.
A condition has been included in this recommendation of approval that joint parking and
access easements be recorded against the property for the benefit of all tenants prior to
any development reviews being approved or building permits being issued for the
proposed expansion or the dinner house restaurants.
WHEREAS, the Planning Commission does hereby find that the criteria for granting of a
conditional use permit for joint use of parking have been met.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED that the Mounds View Planning Commission
does hereby recommend to the Mounds View City Council approval of a conditional use permit
for joint use of parking for the Mounds View Square Shopping Center with the following
conditions:
1. The parking ratios applicable to the addition and deletion of square footage proposed by
1110 the applicant in Planning Case No. 461-96 and 463-96, and as shown in#2 below, shall be
as follows:
Retail Space 4.5 spaces per 1000 square feet
Dinner House Style Restaurants 1 space per 80 square feet of dining or kitchen area
Storage,Etc no parking requirement for areas in storage,maintenance,
restrooms or the enclosed mall area
2. The existing 477 parking spaces on the property are deemed adequate to serve the square
footage and uses in place as of this date, which include the following:
Existing Existing+Expansion
Use Square Footage Square Footage
Retail: 62,005 66,005 (+4,000)
Storage: 16,645 17,645 (+1,000)
Dining: 8,050 11,290(+3240 net)
Kitchen: 6,060 7,320 (+1260 net)
Ma1UMaintenance/Restrooms 9,275 9,275
Total 102,035 111,535
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November 6, 1996
Page 4
3. Prior to issuance of any building permits for changes in square footage at the Mounds
View Square Shopping Center, other than interior remodeling, the property owner shall
obtain approval for development review as provided in Section 1006.06 of the Mounds
View Municipal Code.
4. The reduction in parking spaces required shall be from 492 spaces to 454 spaces or 38
spaces, which represents an 8% reduction in the parking requirement each for daytime
uses (256 x .08 =21) and for nighttime uses (236 x .08 = 18).
5. The property owner shall require of its tenants that employees park in the parking spaces
behind the main retail building to the extent parking is available, to assure that the
maximum parking is available for customers. The property owner shall supply a copy of a
notice to the tenants of this requirement.
6. The property owner shall submit a joint parking and access easement, allowing for use of
the parking area and access drives by all of the tenants in the shopping center, for approval
by the Community Development Director. The easement shall be recorded against the
property for the benefit of all tenants concurrent with any development reviews being
approved and prior to any building permits being issued for the proposed expansion or the
dinner house restaurants.
7. The granting of the conditional use permit is contingent upon the granting of a variance in
the parking ratios applicable to the Mounds View Square Shopping Center(Planning Case
No. 463-96.) This conditional use permit shall be deemed null and void, and the applicant
must request reconsideration of a request for joint use of parking, if the variance in
parking ratios is not approved.
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that the Planning Commission directs Staff to forward
this resolution to the City Council prior to approval of the minutes.
Adopted this 6th day of November, 1996.
Jerry Peterson, Chairperson
ATTEST:
Pamela Sheldon •
Community Development Director
Item #5B
• REQUEST FOR PLANNING COMMISSION ACTION
Meeting Date: November 6, 1996
Staff Report by: Pamela Sheldon, Community Development Director
Planning Case 462-96
File No.:
Request: The applicant, Mounds View Assoc. LLP, is requesting a variance
in the City Sign Code to allow a center identification sign for
Mounds View Square which exceeds the area and height
requirements.
Petitioner: Mounds View Assoc. LLP
Location: 2535-2585 Highway 10
PIN No. 07-30-23-11-0079
Zoning/Land Use: B-4
Mounds View Square Shopping Center
• Applicable Regulations: The regulations applicable to this request are stated and discussed
under the analysis section of this report.
Attachments: Zoning Map
Planning Application
Letter from Paster Enterprises dated October 3, 1996
Background:
The City of Mounds View is pursuing the construction of a pedestrian bride over Highway
10. It will span the highway just west of Long Lake Road. The applicant is concerned
that the bridge will obscure the identification sign for the shopping center. The City is
endeavoring to obtain an easement from the applicant for the ramp. The applicant is
reluctant to grant such an easement without the City addressing the possible obstruction to
the visibility of the shopping center which might be created by the bridge. Staff suggested
to the applicant that they apply for a variance based on a visual simulation of the bridge
and its relation to the shopping center identification sign.
The applicant has provided a photograph showing the bridge as it would appear from
Highway 10 southeast of the intersection with Long Lake Road. This photograph showed
that the existing Mounds View Square pylon sign would be obscured. At your meeting on
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Planning Case No. 462-96: Mounds View Square Shopping Center
November 6, 1996
Page 2
October 9, 1996, the Planning Commission requested more information on how the
proposed pedestrian bridge would affect the sight lines from Highway 10 to the shopping
center.
This report serves as a supplement to the staff report prepared for your October 9, 1996
meeting. (A copy of the previous staff report will be available at your November 6
meeting for the Planning Commission's reference.)
Analysis/
Recommendation:
Staff has obtained a diagram of the sight lines from the City Engineer. The City Engineer
has estimated that 10 sections are needed for a motorist to see the shopping center pylon
sign and react in sufficient time to turn at the Mounds View Square, based on the 50
m.p.h.. speed limit on Highway 10. In this amount of time, the car will travel 765 feet.
This distance was measured from the intersection of Highway 10 and Long Lake Road,
which puts the car at 919 feet from the base of the bridge and approximately 1550 feet
from the proposed location of the sign. At this distance, the bridge appears to be 52 feet •
high from the ground to the top of the railing, given the angle of view. (A copy of the
City Engineer's study will be available at your meeting.)
The applicant's original proposal was for a sign 75 feet in height and having a sign area of
800 square feet. At this height, 23 feet will show above the bridge. The panel identifying
the center would be visible but not the tenant names. Staff would note that most of the
traffic passing Mounds View Square is commute traffic so motorists would see the tenant
names when traveling east. The applicant is concerned, however, with both the actual and
perceived obstruction created by the bridge for visibility of the center, and how it may
affect their ability to lease space. Keeping the shopping center leased is in the best
interests of both the applicant and the City.
Staff has toured four of the other centers owned by the applicant to look at signage, and
took pictures which will be available at the meeting. We asked the applicant for the
measurements of the signs for Mendota Plaza, Crystal Center and Northway Center which
are as follows:
Shopping Center Sign Height Sign Area
Mendota Plaza 50 feet 430 sq.ft.
Crystal Center 36 feet 7 inches 297 sq.ft.
Northway Center 36 feet 301 sq.ft. •
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November 6, 1996
Page 3
The staff also observed that there are monument style signs at driveway entrances in the
Crystal Center with the name of the shopping center. Such signage would provide a visual
indicator at eye level for motorists driving on Highway 10 where to turn to enter the
shopping center. An opportunity may also exist at the corner of Long Lake Road and
Highway 10 for a monument style sign to be built at the base of the ramp for the bridge,
stating the name of the shopping center. Such a sign would be visible before motorists
pass under the bridge and before reaching the driveway entrances, giving them time to
prepare to turn.
After discussion with the applicant, they want to modify the signage package they are
proposing to the following:
• monument signage at the driveway entrances on Highway 10 and at the corner of
Long Lake Road and Highway 10, similar to those used in the Crystal Center
• a pylon sign having the same height and sign area as the sign for Mendota Plaza
i.e. 50 feet in height and 430 square feet in area
• Staff does not have dimensions for the monument signage in the Crystal Center.
Analysis/
Recommendation:
The City Sign Code allows a pylon sign which is 35 feet in height and 340 square feet in
area. The applicant's proposal exceeds these allows by 15 feet in height and 90 square
feet in area. The signs at the Crystal Center and Northway Center are closer to the
Mounds View ordinance in height, and within the Code requirements on sign area.
If h- .r... -• • 1.n i• i reduced in hei•ht from 75 feet to 50 feet it will no lon•er
show above the bridge from the vantage point used in the City Engineer's calculations
(1550 feet to the east). Staff does not see a justification for a variance to allow the
increased height and size of the sign based on the bridge. Staff feels there is a justification
for the monument signage at the corner of Highway 10 and Long Lake Road, and at the
driveway entrances based on the bridge.
Staff also feels that there is a need to revise the City's Sign Code as it relates to larger
sized shopping centers such as Mounds View Square. One approach would be to revise
the type, sizes and heights of signs allowed to recognize the need for a center
identification sign, entry monuments, tenant signage, signs for freestanding businesses
(such as restaurants) and directional signs. The size of the center identification sign could
relate to the square footage on the site or the site size. When a site is larger, it is able to
absorb a larger sized sign and still be attractive and pleasant.
Planning Commission
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Planning Case No. 462-96: Mounds View Square Shopping Center
November 6, 1996
Page 4
Another approach is to allow the approval of sign programs for larger-scale shopping
centers such as Mounds View Square. Staff is familiar with this approach from other
cities. The Sign Code would allow for shopping centers of a certain size to file a
customized set of sign regulations, which would show the location and dimensions of all
of the signage proposed, the design theme, and the colors and letter styles proposed. The
usual regulations for the zoning districts are used as a reference point for evaluating the
sign program, but not as requirements. Sign programs allow flexibility as long as the
overall design approach and amount of signage is acceptable to the City. In some cities,
such sign programs are approved by the Planning Commission; in others, sign programs
are reviewed by the Planning Commission and approved by the City Council.
The applicant feels that the sign package they are proposing will address the impact of the
bridge. Both staff and the applicant agree that the 50 foot sign now proposed is preferable
to the 75 foot sign proposed earlier. As noted above, however, staff is concerned about
the justification for a variance for the pylon sign but not the monument signs. The
applicant is trying to address the impact of the bridge on the perceived desirability of the
shopping center for tenants, and to offer better signage as an antidote. Staff does not see
how the City could tell Silver Lake Plaza that their signage must be no higher than 35 feet,
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and no larger than 340 feet high, if across the street, Mounds View Square is given a
variance for a sign 50 feet in height and 430 square feet, when the sign will not be seen
above the bridge. We feel the best way to address the pylon sign is either:
• reducing it to fit within the City's current regulations (and closer to the size of the
signs at the Crystal Center and Northway Center, or
• amend the Sign Code to change the amount of signage allowed for larger-sized
shopping centers
• amend the Sign Code to allow for sign programs
Staff Recommendation: We recommend that this item be discussed at your November 6
meeting, but a decision be deferred until your November 20 meeting. We need more
information from the applicant on the following:
1. A specific proposal for Mounds View Square Shopping Center showing the
dimensions of the pylon sign and the monument signage at the driveway entrances
and on the corner of Highway 10 and Long Lake Road.
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Planning Case No. 462-96: Mounds View Square Shopping Center
November 6, 1996
Page 5
2. Input as to the applicant's willingness to reduce the pylon sign to fit within the
City's current allowances (35 feet in height and 340 square feet in area)
We need to know from the Planning Commission if you are receptive to amending the
Sign Code as we have suggested in this report, and/or to approving a variance for the
monument signage at the driveway entrances and at the corner of Long Lake Road and
Highway 10.
Finally, one other option the Planning Commission could consider is granting a variance
for the 75 foot sign, based on the City Engineer's study, but placing conditions on the
variance that it cannot be used until both of the following occur:
1. The bridge is approved by the Minnesota Department of Transportation for
construction, and the bridge is under construction.
2. The applicant affords the City a period of at least six months in which to consider
1111 and adopt an amendment to the Sign Code to address signage for larger sized
shopping centers. If the amendment would allow a center identification sign of at
least 400 square feet in area and 45 feet in height, the variance allowing for a 75
foot sign having an area of 800 square feet would become null and void.
Without this additional information, staff is not prepared to make a recommendation.
cc: John Streeter, Paster Enterprises, 2227 University Avenue, St. Paul MN 55114-1677
FAX: 646-1389
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Item #6
111 REQUEST FOR PLANNING COMMISSION ACTION
Meeting Date: November 6, 1996
Staff Report by: Pamela Sheldon, Community Development Director
Planning Case 464-96
File No.:
Request: Approval of an amended conditional use permit and development
review to allow the expansion of an existing auto dealership, the
addition of a car wash and expansion of available repair services.
Petitioner: Saturn Development
Location: 2375 and 2395 Highway 10
PIN No. 08-30-23-31-0001, 2, 3
Zoning/Land Use: B-3
The property at 2375 Highway 10 is being used for the existing
Saturn dealership, and at 2395 Highway 10 for an existing Citgo
gasoline station
Applicable Regulations: The B-3 district allows for new and used automobile dealerships,
minor auto repair and car washes with approval of a conditional use
permit.
Chapter 1006 requires approval of a development review for any
construction project other than two single family detached homes
on improved lots.
Attachments: Planning Application
Zoning Map
Letter from Coyle, Gilman& Stengle RE: permission from property
owner for application to be filed
Resolution 4195: Approval of CUP for Saturn 2/24/92
Resolution 4611: Approval of parking lot expansion 8/8/94
Resolution 483-96: Recommending Approval for Amended CUP
and Development Review
Blueline Package:
- Site Plan
- Landscape Plan
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Planning Case No. 464-96:2375 Highway 10
November 6, 1996
Page 2
Background:
This report serves as a supplement to the staff report prepared for your October 9, 1996
meeting. At that meeting, it was clarified that the amendment to the conditional use
permit pertains only to the land at 2395 Highway 10 being added to the Saturn site, and
therefore the criteria regarding the square footage in building area in comparison to the
square footage in outdoor storage for inventory should be applied to that portion of the
site. It was also clarified how the requirement for 10% of the site in landscaped
greenspace is calculated. These issues are discussed below. (A copy of the previous staff
report will be available at your November 6 meeting for the Planning Commission's
reference.
The applicant has prepared a revised site plan and landscaping plan which show an
additional monument sign on County Road H, and clarifies the dimensions of the three
monument signs on the site.
A notice has been sent to all property owners within 350 feet of the site advertising this
meeting as a public information meeting on the application. A public hearing will be held •
on this item when it is considered by the City Council. The tentative date for the City
Council hearing is November 25.
Analysis/
Recommendation
Building and Site Design; Landscaping
Section 1114.04, Subd. 8.1. requires"a minimum 10% of the property, excluding setback
requirements, is required for landscaped gr- - s .. - - . . 1 _ . . a ._.. . .
shrubbery shall require approval of the Planning Commission based upon a
recommendation of City Forester. Our staff report for your October 9, 1996 meeting
raised a question whether the Saturn proposal met this criteria. It was clarified at the
meeting that the 10% requirement is to be applied to the land area in the site minus the
land area in the required setbacks. The total site contains 3.276 acres or 142,703 square
feet. The area in the required setbacks is 38,250 square feet. The net area to be used in
calculating the 10% requirement is 104,453 square feet; 10% equals 10,445 square feet.
The applicant is proposing to provide 33,606 square feet in landscaped greenspace, which
is more than three times the requirement. This requirement is met.
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Planning Case No. 464-96: 2375 Highway 10
November 6, 1996
Page 3
Signage
The existing signage includes the following:
• existing pylon sign 10'x 10' on 26'high supports; area= 100 sq.ft.
• existing wall sign 23" x 26.5'; area= 50.8 sq.ft.
• used car sign, ground mounted 8' 6-1/2" x 5'=42.7 sq.ft.
• miscellaneous small directional signs
The total signage on the site is 193.5 square feet. All of the signage has approved permits.
The B-3 district allows for 100 square feet per business occupant,and one general
pedestal sign not exceeding 340 square feet. Only one pedestal sign is allowed per
property. The current signage is within the allowances in the Code. The applicant is
proposing two additional monument signs: one at the northernmost driveway on Highway
10 and one at the easternmost driveway on County Road H2. Both of these signs would
have the same dimensions as the existing monument sign on Highway 10 (42.7 square
feet). The applicant's reason for the additional signage is to better identify driveway
entrances and direct customer traffic. The total signage on the site including the new
signage would be:
• existing pylon sign 10'x 10' on 26' high supports; area= 100 sq.ft.
• existing wall sign 23" x 26.5'; area= 50.8 sq.ft.
• used car sign, ground mounted 8' 6-1/2" x 5'=42.7 sq.ft.
• two new ground mounted 8' 6-1/2" x 5'= 85.4 sq.ft.
• miscellaneous small directional signs
Total Signage= 278.9 sq. ft.
Total Permitted = 100 sq. ft. of signage per tenant; 340 sq. ft. pylon sign=440 sq.ft.
The signage on the site is well within the total signage area allowed. Square footage has
been redistributed to the monument signs from the allowances for tenant and pylon signs.
Staff feels that this approach is acceptable and makes the signage package more
functional. Staff also feels that this redistribution requires approval of a variance which
would have to be scheduled for the Planning Commission's December 4 meeting, due to
notice requirements:
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Planning Case No. 464-96: 2375 Highway 10
November 6, 1996
Page 4
Miscellaneous.
The applicant has provided the following additional items requested at your last meeting:
1. Planning application and fees
2. Proof of ownership and letter from owner of Citgo parcel giving permission for
application to be filed on this parcel
Items still needed include:
3. Comments from the City Engineer and Rice Creek Watershed District (staff to do
referral)
4. Provide copy of map dated 2/19/92 showing test drive routes.
5. Show three handicapped parking spaces, and convert two inventory spaces to
customer spaces, to comply with parking requirements.
6. Add note to plans that customer and employee parking will be clearly marked and
kept free of use for inventory.
7. Provide detail on plan as to how trash enclosure will be constructed. Show S
concrete pad.
These items have been addressed in the attached resolution recommending approval.
Staff Recommendation: Adopt the attached Resolution No. 483-96 recommending
approval of the amended conditional use permit and development review for the expansion
of the Saturn dealership.
cc: Jim Price, Saturn Development, P.O. Box 10813, White Bear-Lake, MN 55110;_FAX
790-9416
Darwin Lindahl, Darwin Lindahl Architects, P.A. 5701 Shingle Creek Parkway, Suite
#130, Minneapolis, MN 55430; FAX 560-0441
Francis J. Coyle, Jr., Coyle, Gilman& Stengel, 305 First of America Bank Building,
100 Seventeenth Street, Rock Island, IL 61201; FAX 788-0480
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Applicant: Saturn Development
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COYLE, GILMAN & STENGEL
AN ASSOCIATION OF A PARTNERSHIP
ANO A PROFESSIONAL CORPORATION
305 FIRST OF AMERICA BANK BUILDING
100 SEVENTEENTH STREET
FRANCIS J.COYLE(1899-1987) ROCK ISLAND,ILLINOIS 61201-8781 AREA CODE 309
SAMUEL M.GILMAN, P.C. TELEPHONE 788-0471
FRANCIS J.COYLE,JR.' FACSIMILE 788-0480
WILLIAM R.STENGEL,JR.'
MICHELE R. MCCANN'
October 7, 1996
'ALSO AOMITTEO TO
PRACTICE IN IOWA
VIA FACSIMILE (612) 784-3462
Pamela Sheldon
Community Development Director
City of Mound View
2401 Highway 10
Mound View, MN 55112
Dear Ms . Sheldon:
Per our conversation of this date, our firm represents Q.C. Energy
II, L. C. which is currently occupied by CITGO outlet in Mound View,
Minnesota. Q.C. Energy II, L. C. has entered into a Sales Agreement
with Saturn Development Company, LLC as purchaser of subject real
estate.
Saturn Development Company has Q.C. Energy II 's permission to file
an Application for Conditional Use permit.
The contract calls for a closing and transfer of title on or about
December 1 , 1996 . If you have any concerns or wish further
assistance please advise.
Very truly yours,
COYLE, GILMAN & STENGEL
Irse, 714T
By
Francis J. oyle, Jr.
FJC/pl
pc: Jon Hoganson 4
(7'T 1996
Received
City of
Mounds' ie,
f '- RESOLUTION NO. 4195
410 CITY OF MOUNDS VIEW
COUNTY OF RAMSEY
STATE OF MINNESOTA
APPROVAL OF CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUEST
BY SATURN OF ST. PAUL, 2375 HIGHWAY 10,
PLANNING CASE NO. 335-91
WHEREAS, Saturn of St. Paul has requested City approval
to operate an automobile sales dealership at 2375 Highway 10; and
WHEREAS, the Zoning Ordinance allows automobile sales
dealerships in a B-3, Highway Commercial District; and
WHEREAS, the development, as proposed, requires a
conditional use permit; and
WHEREAS, the City Council has reviewed the following
documents regarding this proposal:
a) Site plan dated 11/91
b) Lighting plan dated and revised 1/30/92
c) Landscape plan dated 11/91 -
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d) Parking plan dated 11/91; and
WHEREAS, the City Council has determined that the
proposal is in conformance with the requirements of the Municipal
Code, specifically Chapter 40; and
WHEREAS, the storm water controls for this site were
originally approved as part of the Mounds View Business Park
project and have been reviewed and are considered adequate by the
City Engineer; and
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approval of the conditional use permit request to the City.
Council in Resolution No. 330-92 .
NOW, ThEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED that the City Council of
the City of Mounds View approves the conditional use permit with
the following conditions :
1. Outside loudspeakers shall be utilized for paging
purposes only.
2 . Only minor repairs and maintenance will be allowed
on site excluding major engine overhauls,
transmission replacement, and body work.
RESOLUTION NO. 4195
PAGE TWO OF TWO
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3 . The hours of operation of the facility shall be
7:00 a.m. to 10:00 p.m.
4 . Any fully mechanized method of washing cars shall
require a conditional use permit per Chapter
40 . 18, Subdivision D(2) .
5 . Any cars taken on trade and not intended for
resale shall not remain on the site for a period
of time exceeding 72 hours .
6 . No outside merchandizing of accessories shall be
allowed.
7 . A good faith effort shall be made to ensure that
test driving of vehicles from the site follow the
route highlighted and described on the attached
map dated 2/19/92 .
8 . All transport truck deliveries and pick-up shall
be conducted on site during regular business
hours .
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9 . The conditional use permit shall be reviewed at
six months and each year thereafter at the time of
licensing to ensure that applicable conditions
imposed on the site are being met.
10 . Outside advertising shall be limited to that
• allowed by Municipal Code.
11. Provide adequate on-site parking for number of
customers expected. For special occasions, a
lar•er. numbe • .. - ._ - _ _ - - _-
made available.
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Adopted this 24th day of February, 1992 .
ATTEST:
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(SEAL)
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RESOLUTION NO. 4611 •
CITY OF MOUNDS VIEW
COUNTY OF RAMSEY •
STATE OF MINNESOTA
RESOLUTION APPROVING THE DEVELOPMENT REQUEST OF
SATURN OF ST. PAUL, 2375 HIGHWAY 10, PLANNING CASE NO. 389-94
WHEREAS, Saturn of St. Paul has requested City approval
to construct an addition to their existing automobile sales
facility at 2375 Highway 10; and
WHEREAS, the proposal would allow the addition of
approximately 45 car-for-sale stalls and associated lighting and
landscaping on the site; and
WHEREAS, Chapter 1006 of the Mounds View Municipal Code
requires that a development review be conducted for this and
similar proposals; and
WHEREAS, the Mounds View City Council has reviewed the
following documents regarding this development proposal:
1. Planning Application dated June 24, 1994
2. Site Plan dated June 24, 1994
3 . Submittal Narrative; and411
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WHEREAS, the City Council has determined that the
proposal is in conformance with all applicable requirements of
Chapter 1100.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED that the Mounds View
City Council approves the development review request subject to
the following condition:
1. The facility shall, following the completion of
the addition, be subject to the conditions
stipulated in the original City Council Resolution
authorizing the use (City Council Resolution No.
4195, dated February 24, 1992) .
Adopted this 8th day of August, 1994.
ATTEST:
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Mayor
(SEAL)
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,.Acting Clerk-Administrator
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MOUNDS VIEW PLANNING COMMISSION
•
RESOLUTION NO. 483-96
CITY OF MOUNDS VIEW
COUNTY OF RAMSEY
STATE OF MINNESOTA
RESOLUTION RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF AN AMENDED CONDITIONAL
USE PERMIT AND A DEVELOPMENT REVIEW FOR EXPANSION OF THE SATURN
DEALERSHIP AT 2375 AND 2395 HIGHWAY 10; PLANNING CASE NO. 464-96.
WHEREAS, Saturn Development has requested City approval to expand its dealership at
2375 Highway 10 to include the property at 2395 Highway 10, to expand building square footage
and add a car wash, and to expand the types of repair services available; and
WHEREAS, the property is in the B-3 Highway Business District, which requires
approval of a conditional use permit for motor vehicle and recreation equipment sales and garages
accessory thereto, and for car washes; and,
WHEREAS, the purpose of conditional use permits is "to provide the City with a
reasonable degree of discretion in determining the suitability of certain designated uses upon the
general welfare, public health and safety; and,
• WHEREAS, the Planning Commission has reviewed the following documents regarding
this proposal:
1. Planning Application dated 10-7-96
2. Zoning Map
3. Staff Report dated October 9, 1996
4. Staff Report dated November 6, 1996
5. Letter from Francis J. Coyle dated 10/7/96
6. City Council Resolution 4195
7. City Council Resolution 4611
8. Site Plan dated 10/30/96
9. Landscape Plan dated 10/30/96
10. Floorplan&Building Elevations received 10/4/96
WHEREAS, the Planning Commission does hereby make the following findings of fact
regarding the requirements set forth in Sections 1114.04, Subd. 8, 1114.04, Subd. 3, 1114.04,
Subd. 2, and Section 1125.01 Subd. 3:
A. Dimensional Requirements & Hours of Operation
• Minimum Required Provided Met?
Lot Area 87,120 sq.ft. and 142,703 sq.ft. yes
Lot Width 150 feet 764 feet yes
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Number of Lots Single or Contiguous yes yes
Setbacks
Front 30 feet 76 feet yes
- Side 10 feet 184 feet(east side) yes
232 feet(west side) yes
Rear 20 feet 36 feet yes
Landscaped Greenspace 10%or 10,445 sq.ft. 33,606 sq.ft. yes
Parking 22 spaces(service) 20 spaces(service) no'
27 spaces(employees) 35 spaces(employees) yes
126 spaces(inventory)2
Hours of Operation 7:00 a.m. - 10:00 p.m. 7:00 a.m. - 10:00 p.m. yes
B. Building and Site Design; Landscaping (Section 1114.04, Subd. 2.a., 3.b., 2.f., 3.c.,
8.e., 3.f., 2.c., 3.i., 8.1., 8.m.)
The proposal is an extension of the existing Saturn dealership. The applicant is
maintaining the same architectural character in the building expansion as is in the original,
and will be landscaping the added site area so the effect will be one seamless development. .
All areas which are not in building or landscaping will be paved and the parking area will
be bordered by a concrete curb. The site does not border property in a residential district
and therefore screening and buffering is not required. A landscaped area at least 10 feet in
width is shown along all of the property lines. The landscape plan shows a row of Black
Hills Spruce along the north property line of the added site area which matches the
existing site. The frontage along Highway 10 will be sodded as is the existing site.
C. Lighting and Signage (Section 1114.04, Subd. 2.h., 3.g., 8.h., 2.d., 3.j. 2.j., 3.m., 8.k.)
The applicant is proposing to install additional light standards on the expanded site area
which are the same style as the existing light standards, and they will be located in a
similar pattern. The original plans submitted for this development included a detail of the
light fixtures which are shielded in compliance with the ordinance. The light standards will
be in landscaped areas and not in the parking lot.
1 With compliance with conditions,the proposal will meet the requirement for 22 spaces for
customers.
2 The Zoning Code does not have any specific requirement for parking spaces for inventory or •
display.
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The applicant is proposing two additional monument signs on the site: one at the
northernmost driveway on Highway 10 and one at the easternmost driveway on County
Road H2. Both of these signs would have the same dimensions as the existing monument
sign on Highway 10 (42.7 square feet). The applicant's reason for the additional signage
is to better identify driveway entrances and direct customer traffic. The total signage on
the site including the new signage would be:
• existing pylon sign 10'x 10' on 26' high supports; area= 100 sq.ft.
• existing wall sign 23" x 26.5'; area= 50.8 sq.ft.
• used car sign, ground mounted 8' 6-1/2" x 5'= 42.7 sq.ft.
• two new ground mounted 8' 6-1/2" x 5' = 85.4 sq.ft.
• miscellaneous small directional signs
Total Signage=278.9 sq. ft.
Total Permitted= 100 sq. ft. of signage per tenant; 340 sq. ft. pylon sign=440 sq.ft.
The signage on the site is well within the total signage area allowed. Square footage has
been redistributed to the monument signs from the allowances for tenant and pylon signs.
The allowance for the two additional monument signs requires approval of a variance by
the Planning Commission, which is noted in the conditions on this recommendation of
approval.
D. Drainage (Section 1114.04 Subd. 2.g., 3.e., 8.f.)
This conditional use permit combines two existing, developed commercial sites. Changes
in drainage patterns are not anticipated. A condition on this recommendation of approval
requires favorable review by the City Engineer prior to forwarding the application to City
Council.
E. Outdoor Storage, Sales and Service (Section 1114.04 Subd. 3.k., 3.o., 3.p., 8.i.)
No outdoor sales or servicing is conducted on this site, other than customers viewing cars
in inventory in the parking lot. There are no abutting residential districts, and therefore,
the screening requirements do not apply. Sufficient space for car inventory has been
provided so it will not infringe on required customer, service and employee parking.
F. Accessory Building(Section 1114.04 Subd. 8.j.)
The accessory buildings are proposed.
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G. Noise (Section 1114.04 Subd. 2.k., 3.n., 8.p., 8.q.)
The original approval including a condition regarding the use of outside loudspeakers,
which has been added to the list of conditions on this recommendation of approval. The
Planning Commission is not aware of any problems regarding noise on this site.
H. Access/Test Drive Routes (Section 1114.04 Subd. 2.i. 3.1., 8.o.)
The applicant is proposing two driveway entrances on Highway 10 and two on County
Road H2, and removal of two of the driveway entrances on the Citgo property. The
driveways to be removed are closest to the Highway 10/County Road H2 intersection.
This will improve traffic patterns in the area and remove a conflict point.
The original approval including a condition regarding test drive routes, which has been
added to the list of conditions on this recommendation of approval.
Stacking Space (Car Wash) (Section 1114.04 Subd. 2.b., 2.e.)
The car wash proposed for this site is for customer cars only and not for the general •
public. The business owner has the ability to control the flow of cars, and the volume of
cars is expected to be less than would be the case with a stand alone car wash business
open to the public. The site does not abut residential districts. The area behind the car
wash faces a business, and will be screened by Black Hills Spruce.
J. Fuel Pumps (Section 1114.04 Subd 3.h.)
No fuel pumps are proposed at this facility; this criteria does not apply.
K Criteria for Approval of Conditional Use Permits (Section 1125.01 Subd. 3)
(1) The use will not create an excessive burden on existing parks,schools,streets and other
public facilities and utilities which serve or are proposed to serve the area.
The proposal represents an expansion of an existing business. The site is served by an
existing arterial highway and a County road, such that traffic can access the site without
going through the residential neighborhoods. The site is served by utilities. Because the
proposal is for a business, no burden on parks or schools is anticipated.
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(2) The use will be sufficiently compatible or separated by distance or screening from adjacent
residentially zoned or used land so that existing homes will not be depreciated in value and
there will be not deterrence to development of vacant land.
(3) The structure and site will have an appearance that will not have an adverse effect upon
adjacent residential properties.
The site is bordered on the north and south by roadways, and abuts a business and
industrial park on the east side. The existing site and proposed expansion shows a
attractive combination of buffering and landscaping around the entire perimeter, and this
business helps in creating an appealing gateway to Mounds View and to the residential
neighborhoods north of Highway 10. It serves as an example of high quality development
for potential developers of property in the area.
(4) The use,in the opinion of the [Planning Commission],is reasonably related to the overall
needs of the City and to the existing land use.
The expansion of the Saturn dealership to take in the Citgo property will help unify this
corner, and allow an attractive and successful business additional room. Providing more
room for inventory and expanding the range of services available to Saturn's customers
may translate into more tax revenue to the City. Expansion of the Saturn dealership will
also help in strengthening the vitality and enhancing the appearance of the Highway 10
corridor. This corridor is very important to the long run economic health of the City.
(5) The use is consistent with the purposes of the Zoning Code and the purposes of the zoning
district in which the applicant intends to locate the proposed use.
The purpose of the B-3 district is to provide for and limit the establishment of motor
vehicle oriented or dependent commercial and service activities. It allows for auto repair
busines a wi r . .. • . . . . ..' .•a. - . 888 . • .. ' . . ' . . .._al fits within
the limits envisioned by the ordinance for the B-3 district, and its location along Highway
10 is logical and appropriate.
(6) The use is not in conflict with the Comprehensive Plan of the City.
The most recent discussion of comprehensive goals for the City was the Mounds View
2000 project in 1994. The Vision Statement from the Growth, Development and Business
Issue Project Team stated:
"The City of Mounds View will be known as a city with a balance between business and
residential concerns. There will be a positive business climate as shown by public-private
• collaboration to recruit,encourage,and retain successful,community-based enterprises with
emphasis on job expansion,increase in tax base,and quality of life. There will be a
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cooperative spirit between the government and citizens,whether residential or business,
when setting regulations into code. Environmental and aesthetic consciousness will be
demonstrated by a redesigned Highway 10,a network of inter-connected trails,parks,and
wetland spaces,and active citizen participation in ecological activities."
Two goals relative to Highway 10, and a goal on business climate, were adopted and are
included in an attachment to this report. The expansion of the Saturn dealership furthers
these goals, and is supported.
(7) The use will not cause traffic hazards or congestion.
The site has adequate access from an arterial highway. No added traffic congestion is
expected. Eliminating one of the driveways on Highway 10 and County Road H2 will
reduce traffic hazards and conflict points.
(8) Adequate utilities,access roads,drainage and necessary facilities have been or will be
provided.
The proposal will use a previously developed site which is served by existing utilities and
roads. There is an existing drainage ditch along Highway 10. This recommendation of •
approval includes a condition that a favorable review be received from MnDOT and the
Rice Creek Watershed District.
WHEREAS, the Planning Commission does hereby find that the conditional use permit
request as submitted by Saturn Development, and with compliance with the conditions stated in
this resolution, meets the criteria set forth in Sections 1114.04, Subd. 2, 3, and 8 and Section
1125.01.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED that the Mounds View Planning Commission
does hereby recommend to the City Cou - •-• : • :. . • - ,• . - : '. .4 I -
permit be granted, and the request for development review be approved, subject to the following
conditions:
1. Prior to issuance of any grading or building permits, the property owner shall
obtain approval from the Mounds View City Council for a replat of the property to
remove the lot line between 2375 and 2395 Highway 10.
2. Outside signage shall be limited to that allowed by the Municipal Code, or as
allowed in any variance approved by the City. Prior to installation of the two
additional monument signs shown at the westernmost driveway on Highway 10
and the easternmost driveway on County Road 112, the property owner shall
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obtain approval for a variance for sign area allowed on the site, in signs other than
the pylon sign, or for a code revisions which would allow this additional sign area.
3. Prior to this case being forwarded to the City Council for action, the applicant shall
revise the plans to include the following:
a. A detail on the site plan of the lighting fixtures, showing style of luminare
and dimensions of lighting standards
b. A note on the site plan stating"Signage shown on this plan is subject to
separate permit. The monument signs shown at the westernmost entrance
on Highway 10 and the easternmost entrance on County Road H2 exceed
the standard sign allowances for sign area in the Mounds View Municipal
Code and are not approved as part of this plan. These signs may be
allowed if approval of a variance is obtained from the City of Mounds
View."
.c. Revision to the distribution of parking spaces so there are 22 spaces for
• service customers and at least 27 spaces for employees. A detail shall be
added to the plan showing how the spaces or areas of the parking are to be
signed to make it clear where customer and employee parking are located.
4. Prior to this case being forwarded to the City Council for action, the applicant shall
obtain written comments from the City Engineer and Rice Creek Watershed
District indicating that the plan will provide adequate site drainage.
5. Prior to this case being forwarded to the City Council for action, the applicant shall
provide the City with a copy of the test drive route described in the map dated
2/19/92 and referred to in Resolution 4195.
6. Vehicle repair, servicing and maintenance are permitted on this site, excluding
body work, welding and painting. All car repairs shall be conducted within the
indoor service bays and not outside the service building.
7. A vehicle wash bay is permitted on this site. The use of this bay shall be for
customers of the dealership only and not the general public. The stacking of
vehicles waiting for washing shall be confined to this site and shall not infer with
vehicle circulation on the site.
8. Any cars taken on trade and not intended for resale shall not remain on the site for
• a period of time exceeding 72 hours.
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Page 8
9. No outside merchandizing of accessories shall be allowed.
10. MI transport truck deliveries and pick-up shall be conducted on site during regular
business hours.
11. Outside loudspeakers shall be utilized for paging purpose only.
12. The hours of operation shall be from 7:00 a.m. to 10:00 p.m.
Where the conditions contained in this resolution differ from those stated in Resolution 4195 and
4611, the conditions stated in this resolution shall prevail.
• BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that the Planning Commission directs Staff to forward
this resolution to the City Council prior to approval of the minutes.
Adopted this 6th day of November, 1996
•
Jerry Peterson, Chairperson
ATTEST:
Pamela Sheldon
Community Development Director
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October 29, 1996
•
City of Mounds View
Planning Commission
Attention: Pam Sheldon
Community Development Director •
2401 Highway 10
Mounds View, MN 55112
Subject: Saturn Development Request for Expansion
Dear Ms. Sheldon:
As property owners adjacent to the Saturn Dealership, we feel we are in an excellent
position to agree with the request for development of the addition of a car wash and
expansion of the repair services.
Other reasons for agreement to the proposal are:
• The land that Saturn wants to develop is undeveloped land that needs to be added to
• our tax base.
• It will clean up the neighborhood.
• It will get rid of weeds and varmits.
• Land values will rise.
• There will be increased jobs to the community.
Please approve the request of the Saturn Development.
Sincerely,
J
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Clifford Brat
5287 Jackson Drive •
Moundsview,MN 55112
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PROCEEDINGS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION
111CITY OF MOUNDS VIEW
RAMSEY COUNTY, MINNESOTA
•
Regular Meeting
November 6, 1996
Mounds VON City Hall
2401 Highway 10, Motnds Vi v MN 55112
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The Mounds View Planning Commission was 1. '` l ; Order
called to order byChair '` ``}'
Peterson at 7:03 p.m. :<x'
on November 6, 1996.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Commissioners Miller, <>.:.,, Roll Call
Brooks, Stevenson, Obert, Johnston °f
Brasaemle and Chair Peterson.
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Director Sheldon, Planning Associate E'`cson <»
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The Planning Commission reviewed theApt 3. Approval of Minutes:
minutes of the special meetir p of October9 ::;<> October 9, 1996
1996. The € lIowing cc tavas were `t ) r`
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Page 1.><€ 1 "by" h xdd ad on age
2, third (in: `W.i10 :shoul&ii§ es 3) Second
page, third'`R j h, lines'' d 7 should
read " if the !Of i ili#`:and>:"Commissi should
read Comt l f '"i ``< > age 3'i ne 3, should
read "...:line.for a..","5x_,paragraph 6,
line 2<should read acriw???:04.' acres" and line 4
sho 'd read "...than one acre. was-added."
Mot n/Second: Bra emle/Stevenson to
ONOve the minutes of October 9, 1996, as
7 ayes:```:•••:-.0 nays Motion Carried
There were no resident requests or comments
from the floor.
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Mr. John Streeter and Mr. Edward Paster, 4. RPuebglaicrdHinegaring
Variance
' representing Paster Enterprises, were present.
Request,y9m Paster
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for approval of a variance in parking ratios, a
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variance in sign height and sign area and a at ; ,.):.
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conditional use permit for joint use of parking Al
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presenting the req t from Mounds View
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Planning Cases 461-96 and 463-96, whicl?...4111111514„
involved the joint use of parking and a v5MOCOillimik ...„,„.
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in the required parking ratios for Mounds view
Square Shopping Center. She explained thatp. Imp
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the second part is Planning Case 462-96 .„.:igir
regarding a variance in the signtoketo veia
center identification sign rnforattasuhr*
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center which exceeds the Db. arqRM .,,,iiiigii,
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additional squqr2atfrailspace
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buil41.A. g near Marios Video (4,000 square feet
of iSiail and 1,000 square feet of storage area).
She added that it is the applicant's desire, at
IitAime in thpi:ire, to remove the existing
Briliii . .c...,,atidifiardees Restaurants and
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replace them itAiitith two dinner house style
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reitkirtrits.
With respect to the first item (Cases 461-96
and 463-96), Director Sheldon noted that the
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Planning Commission discussed at length at
their last meeting what parking would be
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required under the City's existing Code and
what parking is in place on the site. She
explained that there is a specific request from
the applicant for a variance in the parking ratios
that apply to the property and a request for joint
use of parking under a conditional use permit. ::< <
She continued by explaining that joint use of
parking recognizes that some uses are night
time uses and some are day time uses and they
v` " °off-set each other. She added that thenumber : < '
of parkingspaces on the site atpresent is 477, }
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and if the new restaurants and retail space
were added, somearkin spaces would be
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eliminated so that the number of the spaces on
site would be 454. Commissioner Miller
inquired775
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• Director Sheldon explained thatis Staff's
understanding from the Planni Commis on .» >�'
at their last meeting that theye willin.giook `'
at the existing exi§gho parkingi 'as bei ` <`
adequate:>r 3rt> e existtr€ iii1 ;a ,•and exla€ted
that the`i pjat dlid get >; revti€ s variance to
allow for thece to`t € e for the
existing square o € +, She r'r n ed by
asking whatr to 'be appli d against the
new footage'? She`egtaaq.:that the proposal
is for.; -1/2 spaces pe t square feet and
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thaur current code 00.40fits 10 spaces but
added that our code#friuch higher than other
jurisdictions. She cotinued by explaining that
ratio proposed or fast food restaurants is at
Oar<r ular.feq cement (1 space for every 40
si ` odining and 1 space for every 80
squat*efeet of kitchen) but the dinner house
restaurants are proposed at 1 space for every
80 square feet of dining and 1 space for every
80 square feet of kitchen, which she explained
. is a more typical ratio for larger restaurants
where you have less customer turn-over.
Mounds View Planning Commission November 6, 1996
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Director Sheldon explained to the Commission
that Resolution No. 485-96 is for the new
ratios to be used for the proposal, and added
that it was Staffs conclusion that the variance ``
was justified and approval was recommended.
She noted that if the Planning Commission can }
grant a variance, it would not go on to Council
unless the a licant a Baled the '`
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Commission's decision.
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Director Sheldon addressed the other issue
which had to do with joint use of parking. At
the last meeting, staff had reported that the
number of parking s aces on the site, after the
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buildingadditions, would be 457 and that the:>:: < �:::>.
number which would be required usingthe` ` << < > > :..
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ratios would be 454 TheCommission,-v=":<:....
indicated at that time that the a lic : shout
a� d: }r'
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provide the additional three s p ac
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restriping some of the standard;:si stalls..to be
compact size. Director Sheld :tett en indicated
to the Commission that Staff: de an a in
its reviommi ort to th !"iin Co s:'«<' <"``
Instead::c s s aces 681: '`<i~eeded using usInglifie
new rat i 92 s::aceswereneeded, or 38
spaces mor l l e numb i t1 e.site. She
advised the C..gorsion that t' set t
Possible to.:at ehr:::a threllhace
reduction or a 38 space speoftre#491ion using
restriping from stanlda`d : stalls to compact
sizetails. (It would r du 51 standard
spaces to be restripe `to compact size to
create three additional spaces, which was more
n 10% of the.p rking on the site. The
prrodt 's compact spaces to 10% of
the r' ovided.) It was staff's
recoistie`ndation that the Commission consider
a conditional use permit for joint use of parking
facilities to address the situation, and reported
that it would require a 8% reduction in the
parking required for daytime and nighttime uses •
to reduce the parking required on the site to the
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• Regular Meeting Page 5
454 spaces being provided. Resolution No.
486-96 was prepared which lays out the
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findings that support allowing joint use of
parking at 8 percent.
Commissioner Brasaemle inquired if the
variance in ratios would result in a requirement
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variance
of 492 spaces and wanted to verify if the
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conditional use permit was needed to et the '>imi .Ys. xqmiliix.N11;iiiiime-o.
number down to the 454 spaces, which the
Viiiwy
applicant is proposing. He also asked if the
maximum allowable cross-over between night
and day use is 50 p ercent and if Staff was
proposing only 8 percent.
Commissioner Stevensononer
S inquired uir
ed if t
hers i onSinil`i` ,;
anyalternative ternative to
the s
aces the
cent
e::
p
losing
for the storage area and w
g y#5,000.40.
square feet is needed and for what. .se? >` >Nagar
4.10. MY
Mr. Streeter explained that the: Ttitially a'
proposed to expand the
centeurther ttedsouth. Indisussioniswi Saff it wastt
•that ex : onn ths=Ot " o would ca> >
more than one w of pai ( r ` be lost so they
reduced the a ion to savet one row
of parking.
Chair Peterson br•ow ht a signage at
Mario and how it wojdifffected by the
add€ ton. Mr. Streeter€ fined that he
presumed that whoever rents the. new area
€d want to have: ffor their advertising and it
t cplained that Marios could possibly move
? ^(€ :tf1e tenant be put in between.
Cit r Obertinquired if the new parking
comptietfons included the elimination of the 23
spaces on the south side of the building?
Director Sheldon explained that yes, she
looked at the spaces that were in the expansion
area and that is why the parking count was
reduced from 477 to 454.
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Commissioner Miller referenced Page 2, part C,
of Resolution No. 485-96, and feels that adding
5000 square feet to the building does result in
actions from the applicant and wondered how
do we came up with 6000 square feet for new
restaurants. Director Sheldon explained that ..
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the ratios of our Codea
create a hardshi for a >:< >
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applicant id
d not choose s the ratio which she
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feel causes.
an extrao
rdinaparkingdema
nd.
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The hardshp is coming from the ratio rather
than from the footage proposed by the
applicant.
She noted that the 6000 square feet ::
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for the restaurants came from their plan.P
ngiaRiiiiigiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiik, ,,,,op.
Commissioner Brasae I
m e suggested leav'
9g
theparking
hcount for cur
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the cu rent sho
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center as is and use
the ratios from.
'g�Code
to calculate the amount of parking needew. d for
the expansion. He asked what:percentager i'
reduction would be needed using'''.he allowance
for daytime and nighttime us to get tp de,454»`<i
spaces bet . .provided.; e indicated his' `''
to addresstparking ' tt€ with e t e a
variance n.a lowance•for`daytime and
nighttime ug 'p €t of both< bl::e.
r.
Director Sheld d rt ;some`c l tions in
order to answer Comm aner B .• saemle's
ques#fiord came ..percent.
Directo "Sheldon expl` Etat she believes it
is a ver to show thatwith<the ratios that there
is a roblem and that iiRa are fixing it rather than
up the day time/right time calculation.
Dire for Sheldon.explained that if you apply the
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tr l <t ilos<sti the square footage this is
c'p t r would be 614 spaces required
budge f;d that there may be a problem with how
the 614 spaces were calculated.
Commissioner Stevenson inquired as to which
time would be the busiest for the shopping
center? He is concerned that if the ratios are
Mounds View Planning Commission November 6, 1996 •
0 Regular Meeting Page 7
not changed and instead a reduction for
daytime and-nighttime uses is used, there
would not be enough parking at peak times.
Commissioner Brasaemle inquired what would ::>>
be the total number of parking spaces that '"}` _::>
would be needed for the entire center including > <
?Y.2.
the expansion. Director Sheldon replied that it
Y••k`
would be 1,035 spaces.
Commissioner Johnston expressed that he
feels that this proposal would be good for
Mounds View and is forrantin this request
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but it is a matter of how to do it.
Chair Peterson expressed that he had similar A <>>
feelings and thinks th i
at the Plann n
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Commission needs to lay a more sta-kite`.fr
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ground-work for any other cases tha `�'may come
• up and he feels more comfortabjaMith the ii
resolution as prepared which i; ided the:::;,.
variance in ratios. ,A„ itr finality
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Commis; Obert said„he i :comfortae'e>€>�
with the staff has ri tired the resolution,
but shares't € i *. ns tha ' fssioner
Stevenson ra.510
` '�� rdin t ; `� tf'me/ni ht
time mix. ..mg,„.--.-.4„„,,%001w4::..tl ght nowil :e does not
see a problem, but e on future
tenant such as a hig - Mc store, there could
be `:`concern.
Commissioner Brasaemle noted that he feels
mi,m€:advantage to. ranting a variance is that it
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doesn t: sta i i�a precedent if the Council
re t t#'h i nditional use permit and retracted
his`` rtosal to eliminate the variance.
Commissioner Miller has concerns with losing
the 23 spaces bymaking the building 5,000
• square feet larger when there are already .
vacant retail area and wondered if that might
Mounds View Planning Commission November 6, 1996
Regular Meeting Page 8Ilk
change if there were more traffic. Director
Sheldon explained that by adding the
restaurants you may get more interest in the
center. She also added that if people do go out :....:r
to dinner and then run errands to the other `}
businesses onespace.in the Center, they are still only >` < .:
usingace.
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Earl Hamilton, Sunrise Methodist Church ..x<..>.>...>...:
LakeRoad, inquired if traffic from
7687 Longi
q
the Center could accidentally
overflow into their
church parking lot across the street? He did
note that theyhave not hada roblem as of
yet. He is also concerned with the dumping of
r into the wetland ad'acent to the a baeit
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church. Commissioner Miller suggted
es
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signage, "Sunrise Church parkingonly":::::culd >`> , >
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alleviatethis concern.
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Motion/Second: Brasaemle/Bro .k.::: o a retie
Resolution No. 485-96, as amisd, regarding ::
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approving a variance request to the part .,., ,:.,; ` = y,
ratios applble to the Viewq € ;_`>
Shopping" ter, Plart g se No. 46 9v"::
Commission t i;ller:..noted`' me on ections to
proposed Rest( i r i <I .o.. 485`- `:lea e 2,
line 1, "result"st € d.;result 2) third
wherea em a, line 2 o should read of.
7 ayes 0 nays Motion Carried
I Ition/Second: Braemle/Stevenson to
approve Resolutiot `No. 486-96, as amended,` i 'e:< rending (this word was added
tieslon) approving a conditional use
perrrfiit�f' r`the joint use of parking facilities at
Mounds View Square Shopping Center,
Planning Case No. 461-96.
Commissioner Miller recommended that item 7
of the resolution may not be necessary. 411
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Regular Meeting Page 9
Director Sheldo•
n stated this item indicates that
the variance cannot stand by itself. It was then
recommended that item 7 be added as a
ftv
"whereas" instead. ::
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7 ayes
0 nays "`'?;
�>{�����~�IQt��.n Carried
Director Sheldon ex lain zy >< > :>:z < ;
p d that the second :�
art of
ti tit
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the r
e uest pert'''.
to the si na :::b
e for
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the site. She noted that there have been some =<>r'
changes in the proposal since the last Planning '`ti�'>� �`�� ��k'-ii
Commission meeting. (At this time Director ' <'< '' `{>{>:.;
niiiiiiiiiMitik .0
Sheldon distributed pictures of four other `.:<:
centers owned by the applicant showing
exam les \NI `}
p of signage). She ex lained that th <>'<' " ., "`z ':::<:::::: ::}
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last time
this ite
m was
before
the Pl
anni
n�
Commission thea licant was ro osi:`''`'a
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sign n 75 f
eet h'
i hand
80
Osquare
fe
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which they felt was needed so the shopping '`"::'"`' `
• center name and tenant names. ld appear }
above the bridge. She explain `that the
PlanningCommission requested information
regarding ti w much of:the s.i'.{``Yc would' ow
above the'1 ' a and<�t ow the ridge
w `" `> ''-
look to e` l r t::.travel ng or I : :hwa 10.
Director explainedP
le City sgin.17...d a
study on how` ti h 'sign wet ' ve to be to
appear ovt 'It~:a distance which a
motorist: c uld travel i'n 10 econds at 50 mph.
(Tenear t. r...nds was con Bred the amount of
time<tt would take a m o It to decide to slow
and'turn into the shopping center.) The study
'ued that if you are`765 feet back from Long
Lake Road and theisign is placed in the area
. : _by the.pplicant, then the bridge will
ciit .`feet of the sign and the sign will
shote above the bridge railing from 52 feet
upwards. She went on to explained that on a
75 foot high sign, 23 feet would show above the
bridge railing and you would only see the
center identification part of the sign. She
informed the Commission that the applicant is
Mounds View Planning Commission November 6, 1996
Regular Meeting Page 10 III
now proposing monument signage and a 50'
high, 430 square foot identification sign. Signs
existing at the Mendota and Crystal centers
were reviewed and were noted to be similar to
the request being made by the applicant.
Director Sheldon went explaince
o on to that n
you lower the sign,
even to 50 feet, you
cannot Ar doi.:r
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see it over the bridge, so from Staffs
you have started to lose the
perspective,
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connection between the bridge and the need luesiiitik
for a variance. She expressed a concern that
tin a variance for a sign of this size would :>:
granting
set aP recedent, and lead to other shopping
whe .: n<iiil;.
centers requesting this type of signage tl igni.:;.;;;il
ornot. She suggested a <> < «`>« >,
there is a bridge n gg
::ssue: '1
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couple ofpossible ways to address ti.-11
Y
amend our signre u a
t `ns to
one beingto m ��n
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recognize that a shopping center,ofiis size
may need more signage than we` €llow, the -' i
other being, the applicant coutd> equest::;a
variance for the monument sftage at tot;,:..~~` .. .
drivewaya ttcances basedt < he impa t f the`>.
bride .a d have a 'ons :.n of a sizeithat li"'"
meets thei t F :code. 'g e=tamed that
another potbhtuld be# " > .d our Code
to allow for a " tpeage" wppuld allow
the shoppingim tt r ust mizecf`'sign .
regulations�'which wou'd feed to be approved
by the fanning Comrml e€si" <>`She further
explained that anotheta 'ibility would be to
grf a "floating box" f"signage from the top of
the railing up to the; .feet, with a condition on
iiiiiiikiance that. e bridge must be built and
t t ave i < nonths in which to update our
st` €tiis. If the Sign Code is changed
to afinw'tf`e signage, the "floating box" could
not be used. Director Sheldon suggested that
perhaps the Planning Commission could table
this item until a firmer proposal is made and
more information is obtained from the applicant. •
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Regular Meeting Page 11
Commissioner Brasaemle wanted to make it
clear that this variance request is contingent
upon the bridge being built and that whatever .;>.
variance the Planning Commission passes : , A "'
needs to have this clause in it. > .. ;` *
JoAnn Colleen, 2617 County Road Iinquired AP'
as to whyis the parkingand the sign is a ;:P
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concern now if we don't even know of the
bridge or the dinner houser estaurants will be
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built? It was explained that before the wing
applicant even considers building the
restaurants, they would need to know if
adequate parkingis available to inform future
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tenants and it is only the sign request that
related to the construction of the e.
brid :It w << ` -<> ><::
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was easierto
added, that it to comethe:::.:'
Planning Commission with both of t r it
em
at once. She also expressed her c¢. cern ...
about the construction of a lightedti gn and
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with a tall sign being seen from her wind.
She also expressed concern< th other <...
businessesbusinesseggossibly wa�n�.�.}ingitaller siganaler
Earl Hamilton,Haing1WMAynrisetlefflaffigt Church,
7687 Long`ioNtAoad, exptd n dr <signage
situation that..hexperienced.i ' dent of
the City of BitiliewittAbOtstrie business was
required fo reduce is i na a so that it did not
take astray from the suiiou Ti g businesses
andi( omes or they wopd 't get a building
pogo.
tth s:.,time, Johr ,. treeter, addressed the
Kiiiiiilibc.orreitigion showing drawings of
ofig'centers and explaining their
propos '`sign size and location of the pylon
sign in respect to Mounds View Square. He •
explained that the request for Mounds View
Square is very similar to the sign and its
• location as it currently exists at the Mendota
Shopping Center. He pointed out that the signs
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Regular Meeting Page 12 >�
are sized by traffic engineers and engineering
firms that are in the field of sign design and
when they are told the approximate location of
the sign, they statistically figure the size of the
sign and letters to attract the attention of
passing traffic. He did note that the engineers
case
have not yet been brought into this yet
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and that theinformation that is applied in this
particular case is basedis 1111.
signage on past si na a and
approximate.
Discussion continued between the applicant
and the PlanningCommission regarding the
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similarities of the Mendota sign and the
proposedsi9nf r Mounds View Square.
re.
Commissioner Johnston expressed hisfic r n;;;.;isonMin :::,;...,.;
with the possibility
of other Mounds.)40/w
Square tenants requesting separatesign
age '
for their businesses. He asked,::f `more •
information on how a sign progratri'woul.dwork.
Director Sheldon explained that shoppk>^€g ;,.,.:... .; <
i ofa e ta
ggp e::
centers of.; �s s zet r�..�
com re si n popmeollyypich
individual' ' ttsi na dNoolg a.for the pad
sites in theVggiftivt, entry entrylgtoggo an
overall center::Wattligion sign. So a cities
allow the pgpiiiitagmbgstA:poles.sighs and
some monument signs.Some allow
restaurants or other bun es on pad sites to
havewall signs. A sign sigliNICkage or program
aligns some control over design, letter style
and Colors so you g tl'bn overall, coordinated
appearance A comment was made that a sign
gialet:A§jmaPio a PUD for signs.
Commissioner Brasaemle inquired about the
signage for the other pads sites at Mounds
View Square, specifically the proposed dinner
house restaurants. The applicant responded •
by saying that tenants can be very demanding
Mounds View Planning Commission November 6, 1996
ill Regular Meeting Page 13
and usually request a pylon sign, but if the pad
is too good to pass up they may go with the
monument sign. Commissioner Brasaemle
explained that possibly a monument sign, .,
especially for the Bridgeman's site, may be
more suitable and easier to see in this case
because of theproposed bridge. He explained
<.:.:*
that we should address all the signs, not just ` y`
the one sign, because if we deal with each of » '>> ' «,,..,..::.,..,,...
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the other signs individually we could end up <... ::x
l tiy.,.
with something we don't really want.
Commissioner Obert expressed
his concern
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that if we approved some type of sign package, '
w'
lat o down the road it maynot fit ith the .»: r<< <>>>>
er n
n ire picture of what we are lookingat far the < € :.
e t pic u
rHighway10 corridor.
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Director Sheldon informed the Corrssion `' t ..-
• at the last Council work session, re was<i
discussion on hiring a consultttrm on :1
looking at a section of Highway'10 thatkm„Edirfurther tothe northofIV 'View Sq€t t`t ttttt<t ''
The Pla in tc:i. ommis i " red if, i f€ :"'
that secfHighway 10,t nsultant will
be looking..3: 01111,,some design' i , d added if
they are they tg pictu Should be
a suitable:them
ithat l 1 be e t:end further
along Highway 10. `` %r t'Sheldon believes
that if.t "e Planning Coti" tton sets a good
standard on this site, 'vrtf be okay on other
shaping center site -,. �iat propose different
et age. 1`
.i: etiw ert again expressed some
c 'Vamilisali'tnks the Planning Commission
need 'to make sure that these standards are
set high enough.
Commissioner Brasaemle inquired as to what
0the applicant's general sense of what dinner
house restaurant tenant feelings are on pylon
Mounds View Planning Commission November 6, 1996
Regular Meeting Page 14
versus monument signage. Mr. Edward Paster
replied that usually the tenant wants an
identification sign that separates them from
everyone else and that monument signage may .,,
not always be accepted as the desired signage
for'their site. He also indicated that promoting 4.4. ..aiiiimaiiilion..
the name of the tenants seems to now be the Amu,
trend. He thinks that if we have the monument
sign near the area where the and and the
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proposed bridgee will be located, as Staff as
indicated, it would be innovative and a 11.1111111L.
somewhat different approach. He added that it
maytake some convincingthe restaurant that it .::`''"'t `illlll`i`ll'`lh
would be adequate, but he would make a real
hard sell for goingto the monument sign wit .
thetenant's name on it and eliminatingthe < < <<> '«<
><::>,
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pylon sign for the tenant. He a er ll » k
s
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the concept wuld work but may be `re ry hard
sell.
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Chair Peterson inquired if the; 'anning .
Commission had everything they neededtta.i
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give this case further cane `ation. Dfet ii<r
Sheldon et' :;time i :: di '#khat she sheil6are
from the tAgg t.a diagram dianfithgtshows the
locations w &e they wantifit§Igagge and also
a drawing of the thggtOttOge itself to what the
package i§. 0:10 tiog*imoilktbe variance. She
suggested en thatitalkEtAnning
Comm sion is in agr p that shopping
centers need to be looed' t again in terms of
hopg signage is handled, especially centers this
large:, a provision cat�be worked on that would
atlow for sign packages. She indicated that
gold!.>.comiack with the proposal for the
centerdorgitigtgdiption signs which the applicant
feels ' t&r ceded because of the bridge and
can then get working on the overall signage.
Commissioner Stevenson suggested that the
Commission explore what the signage is of •
other similar centers along Highway 10, such
Mounds View Planning Commission November 6, 1996
4p Regular Meeting Page 15
as Northtown Commons and on the other side
near Rainbow Foods and others in the area.
JoAnn Colleen, 2617 County Road I, inquired
as to whether the requested monument signage
would also be located at the entrance on the
north side of the shopping center and Mr. par' ,:mimilimmiks
Streeter replied that they had not considered it.
Motion/Second: Miller/Johnston to table the
discussion of the signage for Mounds View
Square until their next agenda meeting for
discussion.
7 ayes 0 nays litleMotion Carried
Director Sheldon requested that the Planning Aix
smommaikaa,
Commission consider calling to order at their
meeting on November 20 to take action on ttlii
• item and it was the Planning Cotiii*sion'er
40.
consensus that it would be a possibility that
they would call to order contingent upgama,
receiving thiasadequate.inforrnation reOdogigir:‘
Anim mummin
this case,. mai,
Mr. Jim Price.: rd ri5iwin LindOtint§tifesenting 6. Information Meeting
the applicant Saturn were Regarding the
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present oi:F Request from Saturn
•Warggi, Development to
Community DevelopmWarrector Sheldon Amend a Conditional
reviewed the case from Saturn Development Use Permit, 2375 and
Company for the expansion of the existing 2395 Highway 10,
death-ship in Mounds View located at 2375 • Planning Case No.
Higive..y:4,0,:: Direbtor Sheldon explained that 464-96
Saturn is to develop the property that
is nowoccdpied by the CITGO gas station at
2395 Highway 10. She reminded the
Commission that they did receive a detailed
site plan at their last meeting. She informed
the Commission that the applicant, after review
of the Staff report, has revised their drawing to
Mounds View Planning Commission November 6, 1996
Regular Meeting Page 16 •
add the trash enclosure. She continued by
saying there were two issues of concern; the
first had to do with the amount of landscaping
required on the site, and she indicated that they ```'
do have sufficient landscaping to meet the ten :.<
Aim,"
percent requirement, and the other item had to `'`
..ti} tdo with signage. She explained that the
existing site has a Ion- t Ie sign that n
identifies the dealePrsYhi and a monument sig.
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se sand that Saturn is the u d car
that i
to add two monument signs at the
proposing
entrances to the dealership, one on County
Road H2 and the other alongHi hwa 10 that
. .,g_way
would be the same size as the one existing (8.5 "+
feet high
by5 feet wide for a
total of
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square feet. Staff does not have any i.:.,:.:.::., "i.:,.::::::.::.:::::::::;;..
rvelew
to the sign from an aesthetic standpointarid thyi '< i'<::..: :>:
ordinance indicates that theyare within the
area allowed, but the Code does no 'allow foot
this number or the proposed placement of< `` S
signs. She informed the Commission thathe Ay
total area of signage permittton the a <r>:,..4
allows 104:::::. uare feet of wall si na e.ti i >; €iii>ii<i`
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foot:: �'`:oni si n wh E tat is 440 s' <rei,v :::.
340 :.: ! 1 "!:.;:.;:..,9 g�'-
feet. Slinformed thagiiiit e::::existin Ion
9 pylon
sign is 100' i e eet, the ting wall sign in
50 square feet 'arthe monument i n for
used cars:is; et for notal of 200
square feet'which lee es 240 square feet. The
additional monument'` t9f'i are 85 square feet.
She`ited that the Code toes not address
monument signs at entrances and asked for
direction from the Planning Commission on
h er signageticould be redistributed through
ance b use it is less than the signage
allowed*§§dit Improves how the site functions.
Commissioner Miller asked if Saturn's request
was actually more of a directional type signage
and Director Sheldon indicated that Saturn's
request is for signage a slightly larger than .
what is accepted as directional signage.
Mounds View Planning Commission November 6, 1996
• Regular Meeting Page 17
Separate from the signage, Director Sheldon
stated that all aspects of the plan for the site
are fine and was recommending that the
conditional use permit that allows them to
expand the site and add the additional repair :w
services and car wash be approved. `.
Elaine Johnson, 2287C ouY
nt Road H2,
expexpressed her
conce
rn wit
h the existi
n li htin
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of the dealership. She also indicated that when >:: •m:::<:;::>-
Saturn was built, theysaid theywere goingto ``'`'`` ""
have only oil change services and they were
told that there would not be any
other facilities
for repair work.
Concern with noise se fro
m the trucks comm.•>
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and111,...0A.linchk. ..,.:;:ipiiii;:e
going
to the business
park was
al
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expressed and that they have calledtl City
numerous times but nothing is everone.dr ...
ill The Commission inquired as tfat ligfg
was causing the concern (.e.g,the service:boot. . >'"
being opet l)" ms..Johnson ndicate €i <=>'i���`'
was the eneraJ li htr` :::'::inj bri ht a d at�`at
times the l € < s on a'll night :::
6.
Thea applicantindicated that th 111.ts`are on
timers anstRei l ` ity lighting"is on all
night. I-lailalso indicated:> t:::the Police have
requested that they keep `pr of their lighting
on all night but they in is ted that they would
na He added that th 'lights go off
automatically at 11:.00 p.m.
r Jtm P:t c.�....•.t:€ Saturn Development,
p t d etch showing the lighting
staritiais for the site and further discussion
took place regarding this issue.
Chair Peterson suggested that in future, in the
4) public hearing notice that are sent to residents,
perhaps we can inform the residents that they
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Regular Meeting Page 18 •
can stop by City Hall if they desire to examine
the maps for each case.
Brian Kraft, 5290 Pinewood Court, requested r}'
that perhaps the lighting can be turned off an
hour earlier and suggested that perhaps they
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e indicated
off around 10:00 m. H ::F
be turned
to I trees in his and
that
he does have man I
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:v,,T kvv
e block much of the lighting' however,
that dos
He is okay
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with adding additional service area and lighting, `
but is requesting that it be turned off earlier and
that ossibl the service door be kept closed
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by 10:00 p.m.
s co ern wi < <> << >< `< ::..
Chair Peterson expressed his nct €;,r,,:::.:..::..:.......:...:::,:::::.
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the hours of o eration and Commission`Miller:< <`< > >>> '.: ::
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the `al
eminded the om
mission that o.: `in
r Cr.�'
conditional use permit indicates that hoot`s
of operation shall be from 7:00 <to 10: 30' i< y •
p.m. Director Sheldon wanted to make G ear
understanding to the applicar Kiat if th <> .. {;.. ..,:gip:'
condition ding ermit states:`#this that"f ">< > '`
p ,
em to eeshould note bt < 'a&� past mission
p.m. M iii: : Informer` s mission that
there was`a>' I : f time where e:service
department w 'i.` g past 't4 'm.
because of;tow' pacity, but< dicated that
with additional servicea x: t should eliminate
this pro lem. Iiiiiiiiiiiiiialiv
Et a Johnson, 2287 County Road H2,
again expressed her:disappointment because
: a_(t she was,:promised by the City Council
<it ....:...4400' e oil changes and that is why
iti p ed She also expressed concern
thglii
with fie Traffic on the County Road H2 entrance
to the service area and with the speakers and
paging system. Mr. Price indicated that the
original permit allows for paging system, but
does not allow playing music and they have not
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done that.
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is pleased
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operation and u .
plaints
Chair Peterson expressed thathe
with Saturn's
any complaints.
had not heard of ethis evening
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due to
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Mr. Price again the expressed that the reason they expansion are requesting is
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customer demano.
the
expansion
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Commissioner Stevenson inquiredasto what
the applicant'sTha applicant indicated
Spring but that
AeNNININft,
expansion. time frame
take place in the because there 4?would probably isregarding that it
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CITGO property
want to rernovatalaii,
they need to the
ese on the land .
are tanks on
they want t04.00011111111/4„....„,gif
These tanks
b e4spi,' ANNUNIMEnir
as possible
possible A.::- .iiii, •""ii.igimommiiiP,
are not leaking now,
than as soon butlthseoy
on the the property as soon as .„igIP• .::, IiiiIiiiiiitp:$•
sr
a-
Commission Brasaemle exprestdattaetnht;Pt
e.:I;-inod for
0.-iit.P.w- .m this developme:14
• understandskthe concerns of the. ...m•i:-
he does thin
and that Sat-191 es haY:tiCwier
jinn and
good MoundsrePtir View;:F:
the enY,EligutIP
l'a I c otanksnha. ail gifillcis1ic:in:Ili csilhetti.7rn121:4ei 1 i tJelni*ostiVP
station arkcitki .
.4 i,lidamprobabiNgliiiiiimmo,
upgratI4.egtanderd -liMil:'
been
curtF:.i]:,kiliiiii:.ft,
upgraded to to
(Commissioner
Brodwvai„rafat,i.%q
vi i n.m)
1.aiii;imiii" • if it is
not
Chati)beterson applicantaskegda‘lppeinips
not to have that
normal
stores because
fkifity? Mr- ...lany of their
at the Saturn
they do
indicated .
1i4°19a .1With tanks.
s pumpsPric11#fiiiiiititcoffi$
gAi:mi, ftimiAip.
IIIMMItio"-r Miller inquired da.sactoenhtopwrowpeerty
CoThilittsvoneon
adjacent thei0
C uncil that
promise of
address the concerns
owner and withbe tcheernsof the
only?that applicant
would
thereDthireector
Sheldon responded• has the right to expansion.pdclhybayfnosgreethyseing
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Regular Meeting Page 20 •
Commissioner Brasaemle recommended that
the Council address this issue since they made
the promise and because they will take final ::<:.
action on this request. '"::.•
Chair Peterson reminded the Commission that .A. Amiiililiiiiiiiiiimii.iii,..
a couple of years ago there was
s an application
tion
made for another service facility in Mounds
View and as part of the process, a model set of alt .41,1y Nlitimmimi,,ii,m,
guidelines was put together for services and
hours of operation and perhaps we could
review these guidelines.
Commissioner Brasaemle asked the resident at
2287 CountyRoad H2 what it was like whe
Loose Ends was on the site as far asparking €<<'m n ::.
and lighting? The resident indicated t . ��i�the
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in wasnot as brightbut arkin "`'nd hours
lightingP 9.::
of operation were a problem. .40.341F IF Air
i
Commissioner Miller indicated at in the `'€
original conditional use perm4E was sti.that»>
onlyminor..( airs and mant ance shat €`"ii `
:P
allowed::€ ' l It >:excluding >;< engine�< < I v=j"::;
overha tlr
m"':::''''' sion'rep'acem nt, and body
work. Direcftzltdon ind e <tat this has
been re laced s ` ew coned i "Which is
P
noted on Page:€ >`cResolution No 483-96.
Director Sheldon rerni d`t e Commission
thatts item is in front:>ofie Commission for
action this evening and indicated that the
fge issue is nocluded in the proposed
resolution, and*"need to be addressed at
r7€><latert`t a >pir ctor Sheldon noted that the
Commission€seeded to take action this evening
in orde>"t`ir this case to be heard at the City
Council on November 25.
It was concluded that the concerns with the
lighting brought before the Planning •
Commission this evening were with the original
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ill Regular Meeting Page 21
lighting. Director Sheldon at this time recited
the section on "glare" in. the Zoning Code which
indicates that any lighting used to illuminate off-
street parking shall be arranged to deflect light :1 `'
away from adjoining residential property and ...}.Y
that the source of the lighting shall be hooded ..
leShe indicated that the Code
or controlled. ;.::,
Ives a measurement of how much light is to be z>'lt v
v`
these
at the property line and that
measurements will tell ou if direct rays are <>. :; :} <<}> •<.<•::<::•<.>_
going off the site. She indicated that the
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measurements of the Saturn facility show that
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the li ht levels at the ro ert line are within dr NIERM..
the limits in the Code P arlthou h you may still
be
able to see the point of light and our Coded��.
< .
not control this.
<wA
o :that wgir it
Commissioner Stevensonpointed ut. h "`
the expansion, it will not increase tke`existin <``.>i "Y
.: ;.
• amount of light. >_
Elaine Johnson, 2287 Coun `Road .�_. ._.,::_ < '
expressed:: .ncern with::> :the were<< >` i`< t`
notified;c to work session eting. O4iiiwed&
Sheldon "i; ii'ed that he P an t ng
Commission s not pprovir g s , and that ••
they are only t 1 ; recom ton to the
City Counot l i Cher explair ed that the
City is nil`tequired ft< y notice at the
Planning Commission eat my of the City
Co ncil public hearing a d'`that we have
recently added notic4ilat the Planning
Commission level 5:311.pake sure residents are
informed earliere process. She added that
to oti earlier..
sidents of the work session
area>etatted that the City mainly wants to
makeisure people are here for the meeting
where the decision is made.
Chair Peterson asked Director Sheldon to
• review the conditions contained in proposed
Resolution No. 483-96. Director Sheldon noted
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that some of the items were brought in from the
original conditional use permit and some were
4.
new.
Commissioner Stevenson requested that in :>'
item 1 of the conditions that a Park Fund <,
Dedication fee requirement be added. There
was brief discussion on procedures f .iiii :<;y
oced s o
is ` . yty
re lattin of the ro ert orPerhaps vacatin ::.
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the lot line and also requiring arkdedi on
uir n a cats
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fee.. Director Sheldon indicated the Staffs >
reason for the condition is that we need to deal Motion Carried
Nelilillik
with the BuildingCodethequestion of .:
and q
setbacks because this ro ert includes three
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lots but it was not tafP intent to raise the ..;::»>> > > :::..
S s
0
ue
iss ofpark dedicatio dicated tk� �'��is�<�>������<�<��� >€ '�:::..
n. She in ..
Ittlipp
she would onsult withA r
c our Cityf ne.:;
re ardin theProper procedures for ::`movin :>
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the lot line and with the Building Of€ ial
v II
regarding Building Code requirrts. Shy'
suggested that the condition hitrewoanw rded o
say prior to the issuance of a€ `grading °>..:x `..:::; i'`
building peE`t its, the property' 5wner shall ;;,.:.:::.>,.::: 7iii
. Staff Reports/
vacate thei 'tine bet sand 2385<> 1" Information Items
Highwaydeemed n essary:b the Cit
Attorney.
Commissioner b > ``q ested l` t t the
conditi4 <regarding`jthd welding on the
site bremoved from`` ttution.
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Mcg#inn/Second: MillePeterson approved
Resolution No. 483; 6 recommending
approval of an amended conditional use permit
t 31.. t review for the expansion of
tfE ` € elership at 2375 and 2395
gi.Hignw'cv f0; Plaiim nning Case No. 464-96.
5 ayes 0 nays 1 abstention
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Regular Meeting Page 23
(Commissioner Stevenson's abstained due to
his son being employed at the Saturn
Dealership.)
..„4"
Chair Peterson informed the applicant that this
AMM:•,:nr
item will be heard by the City Council on
November 25.
4...1.1r1M1,04,
Planning Associate Ericson provided an update #.8
.,„.,
on Planning Case No. 460-96: Auto Center .ionionv
VW'
which was heard at the October 7, 1996
meeting. He explained that he contacted the
applicants to inform them of the Commission's
concerns with the site and Staffs
recommendations, and the applicants indicateddlik.
that there were problems with the lease artinEnink,
therefore, they asked for the case to be put on
hold and so it was removed from the November
• 6 agenda. Mr. Ericson added that this week
•
the applicants indicated that thqt§iii0 a
possibility that it may now go through ary.;fi$o
requested a meeting with §taffio go over ibp„...411r
Planning Commission's requirements
Coincid9nt1y AR had with WA*Air
Bank, NAibritiO§11,the site, and buyers
that had a very gtipr propdgal gglo. same
location. He'afgemk.that the tolfrOffered
the propertAptitigNIKafte'rseeing that
the property had a lbtarftniintrest, they
pulled Oack their offer tlAtedicated that Cathy
Bennett, our EconomiONVelopment
C.0.0inator, was preparing a resolution for the
City Council to authorize Staff to negotiate
purchase of the property if the bank change its
mingiiimovippotogain, offers it to the
Corriffitrifty Development Director Sheldon
informed the Planning Commission of items
that are scheduled to be heard at their next
meeting; the variances on the signs for Paster
Enterprises and for Saturn Development, a lot
split request from Larry Beach, and a draft
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Regular Meeting Page 24 •
ordinance regarding the telecommunications
issue.
Director Sheldon informed the Commission that
she had learned from church officials that the ..,
New Apostolic Church's purchase contract for <{«
the property located t d at 3025CountyRoad P P Y
ad H
<�}�y
was no longer valid and the application for Atir >.. >ii:>::::::.:.::��}
building a church at that location was denied by lik
`i':iY0 y
the Council based on the fact that there was no .40..„..,..,:.
�`'��:
purchase agreement in place. She alsoovitor
Ay"`y
indicated that there is a rumor that the property ->.. Chairperson and
has been sold to a person who Flans to fix up :;: Plannin
P : . g
the house, then eventually tear it down to build > ' ommissioners
a new house on the site but that there is so ''':, ? .:`: orts
nae { .:::....... . p
confusion as to who actually as the righlgloginiiiiimiiia, 211"
sell thero ert
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AgY
The ordinance on revised site sizesnd liiiii ....
setbacks for churches.and otheei -residential •
uses will be on Councl agendafor first r iling Adif
and public hearing at their.,m g
�etin on ::
November. 1 She asked h Commi e` .w
anyof themould liket err.: the me ng to
represent t i ening " i' e on.
Commission c r e .indicated thatt a would be
there.
It was r''noted that th ommissi
aloners
ObertiOrid Miller atter 'r Council work
session on Novemberlt <represent the 9. Adjournment
Planning Commission regarding communication
ben commissionsCommissioner Obert
4 ented that.Commissioner Miller made a
ariabdimptation but that the Council was
ns ve and expressed his concern with
thectrtunication problem. Director Sheldon
suggested that this item be discussed at the
retreat that will be scheduled between Staff and
the City Council.
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il Regular Meeting Page 25
Director Sheldon stated that she had included
the latest issue of the "Planning Commissioners
Journal" in their packet.
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Chair Peterson noted the members present at _« :
the October 23, 1996 special meeting, which A. :<z..ttt<t'V ' ' y
included Commissioners Miller, Obert, Brooks Anis= '} i'< : .
Stevenson, andChair � "`y y r•`` "r
Peterson. <:}:. ::::�:::::::::y��
(Commissioners Johnston and Brasaemle had :< 3 <>;:<.,> :'>...'•t>,::.. > v'
gior
excused absences). Planning Associate Mita. ><. m > �>.'«>�»::;;;<:<
v,;yti:tiyytyHy;:i ;;til'
Ericson was also present. <f'»r`': ah::,
Commissioner Johnston brought up a concern
regarding conditional use permit that was ::::::..
approved ro ed for Colonial Village Mobile Home
minPark approximately one < `> > :><>>y
pP Y year ago which a(� �..:>::.y..yy::>y::•.::>..
them to sell homes. He indicated that 't
s? .."iimmiamigo
permit should be coming upi
for rev e*soonh
informed the Commission that he h $ receive lipinv
1110 complaints regarding the Park and dded; t
:iiiiinthere are people in the park tta're unhappy
about it. «> .
�..ky;:yY.: •r{}moi
Tt}y iyiiiiiiS
There bet ` ;furthe € s beforehe
Planning C : erson
adjourned the' ting at 1�i < k ,
Respectfullysubmitted,
.'yf;
Pamela Sheldon
Community Development Director
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IMMEMPROF
II
Item #5
• REQUEST FOR PLANNING COMMISSION ACTION
Meeting Date: November 20, 1996
Staff Report by: Pamela Sheldon, Community Development Director
Planning Case 462-96
File No.:
Request: The applicant, Mounds View Assoc. LLP, is requesting a variance
in the City Sign Code to allow a center identification sign for
Mounds View Square which exceeds the area and height
requirements, and monument signs at the driveway entrances on
Highway 10 and at the intersection of Long Lake Road and
Highway 10.
Petitioner: Mounds View Assoc. LLP
Location: 2535-2585 Highway 10
PIN No. 07-30-23-11-0079
Zoning/Land Use: B-4
• Mounds View Square Shopping Center
Applicable Regulations: The regulations applicable to this request are stated and discussed
under the analysis section of this report.
Attachments: Diagram of pylon sign
Diagram of monument signs
Background:
The City of •oun s s •iew is pursuing t e construction o a pedestrian bride over Highway
10. It will span the highway just west of Long Lake Road. The applicant is concerned
that the bridge will obscure the identification sign for the shopping center. The City is
endeavoring to obtain an easement from the applicant for the ramp. The applicant is
reluctant to grant such an easement without the City addressing the possible obstruction to
the visibility of the shopping center which might be created by the bridge. Staff suggested
to the applicant that they apply for a variance based on a visual simulation of the bridge
and its relation to the shopping center identification sign.
This report serves as a supplement to the staff report prepared for your October 9, 1996
and November 6 meeting. (A copy of the previous staff report will be available at your
• November 20 meeting for the Planning Commission's reference.)
Planning Commission
462-96: Mounds View Square Signage II/
November 20, 1996
Page 2
Analysis/
Recommendation:
Staff obtained a diagram of the sight lines from the City Engineer. The City Engineer has
estimated that 10 seconds are needed for a motorist to see the shopping center pylon sign
and react in sufficient time to turn at the Mounds View Square, based on the 50 m.p.h..
speed limit on Highway 10. In this amount of time, the car will travel 765 feet. This
distance was measured from the intersection of Highway 10 and Long Lake Road, which
puts the car at 919 feet from the base of the bridge and approximately 1550 feet from the
proposed location of the sign. At this distance, the bridge would cover the lower 52 feet
of the sign, given the angle of view. (A copy of the City Engineer's study was presented
at your last meeting.)
The applicant's original proposal was for a sign 75 feet in height and having a sign area of
800 square feet. At this height, 23 feet will show above the bridge. The panel identifying
the center would be visible but not the tenant names. The applicant has submitted a
revised proposal which consists of the following:
• a center identification sign 35 feet high by 14 feet wide, with a sign area of 322 •
square feet
• two monument signs, measuring 12 feet high by 18 feet wide, to be placed at the
driveway entrances onto Highway 10; each sign has an area of 216 square feet; the
area with words is approximately 100 square feet.
• a monument sign at the intersection of Highway 10 and Long Lake Road, to be
determined when the bridge is completed
Diagrams are enclosed which illustrate the first two types of signs.
At your last meeting, the Planning Commission requested more information on the type of
signage along Highway 10 and pictures of the signs at Mendota Plaza. These pictures will
be available at your meeting on November 20. A brief summary follows:
Northcourt Commons: Signs use brick columns with tenant names spanning between these
supports and the shopping center's name across the top. The tenant names are
approximately 2 feet wide. The sign is approximately 26 feet tall, 15.5 feet wide. The
area with words is approximately 130 square feet.
Northtown Mall: Entry signs are approximately 10-12 feet tall, and triangular in shape
which helps cut mass. Signs are constructed of stone and carry only the name of the
shopping center. Unable to measure or estimate center identification sign but have •
pictures.
• Planning Commission
462-96:Mounds View Square Signage
November 20, 1996
Page 3
Northtown Village: Center identification sign is approximately 62 feet high and 21 feet
wide. Tenant names are 5-6 feet wide. The area with words is approximately 613 square
feet. Sign constructed of split face block and brick.
Birch Run Station (across from Maplewood Mall): Has a monument sign at the entrance
from Beam Avenue which is approximately 25 feet tall and 14 feet wide, with a sign area
of 280 square feet.
Mendota Plaza: There are two signs, one facing Highway 110 and one facing Dodd Road.
The larger one is on Highway 110 and is set back approximately 150 feet from the edge of
the roadway. (This sign measures 50 feet tall and has a sign area of 430 sq.ft.) It does not
appear large in context.
Analysis/
Recommendation:
The center identification sign proposed for Mounds View Square fits within the Sign Code
• requirements which allow for a pylon sign that is 35 feet high with a sign area of 340
square feet. This sign does not require a variance. Staff would recommend that supports
be brick to match the center's architecture and the proposed materials for the monument
signs at the entrances.
The monument signs at the driveway entrances and at the intersection of Highway 10 and
Long Lake Road would require a variance. The applicant is proposing that they be
constructed of brick. We do not have information on the color scheme or how the signs
will be lighted. We are unclear if the signs will be double-sided. If the monument sign at
Long Lake Road and Highway 10 is similar in size to the two proposed at the driveway
entrances, the three signs would add approximately 300 feet of signage (100 square feet
per sign) on structures measuring 216 square feet each. The applicant feels that this
signage is needed to alert motorists to the shopping center and the driveway entrances,
since the pedestrian bridge will obscure the view of the retail building from Highway 10
until motorists travel under the bridge. The applicant has indicated that the evening
commute is most important to them in terms of capturing shoppers, and it is this east to
west direction that is blocked by the bridge.
Two issues need to be addressed before dealing with the signs themselves. It appears that
the signs at the driveway entrances are in the highway right-of-way,,and they will also
cause a sight distance problem for motorists exiting the shopping center. The signs need
to be relocated far enough back to allow motorists' safety. If they will be in highway
• right-of-way, the applicant would need to provide the City with evidence of permission
from MnDOT.
Planning Commission .
462-96: Mounds View Square Signage
November 20, 1996
Page 4
intended to overcome the blocking effect of the bridge, not only of signage but of the
shopping center building also. (It should be noted that because of the shape of the center,
only about 1/4 of the front face--from Budget Liquors to the Hypnosis Center--is visible
to Highway 10 when traveling west without the bridge in place, until you drive past the
point where the bridge will be located.)
We have estimated that the sign for Minnesota Center(shown in a picture submitted by
the applicant) is approximately 10-12 feet high. The entrance signs at Northtown are
approximately 10-12 feet high. The proposed sign for Mounds View Square will look
more massive than a sign such as the one at Northcourt Commons because it is a solid
wall. We would recommend that the signage at Mounds View Square only be allowed at
12 feet if a shorter wall is extended the base of the sign or either side, earth is bermed up
behind the shorter wall and tied into landscaping to soften the effect. Trees should also be
planted behind the larger part of the wall. The Planning Commission will have to use its
judgement as to whether the dimensions requested are the minimum necessary to
overcome the blocking effect of the bridge. A ten foot by 15 foot sign may be sufficient.
Staff would also note that the size of the monument sign at Long Lake Road and Highway
10 may need to be adjusted in height and size so it coordinates with the design of the
bridge.
The criteria for approval of variances to the Sign Code are stated below with comments
from staff as to how this proposal meets the criteria.
a. Exceptional or extraordinary circumstances apply to the property which do not apply
generally to other properties in the same zone or vicinity and result from lot size or shape,
topography or other circumstances over which the owners or the property since the effective
date hereof had no control.
c. �•. .. .. .. _ .. . : . ::
The property is developed with a retail building that is L-shaped and set back from
Highway 10. The City is proposing to construct a pedestrian bridge across Highway 10 at
Long Lake Road which will block the view of a portion of the front face of the shopping
center and its center identification sign until motorists travel under the bridge. The
monument signs proposed at the two driveway entrances will alert motorists to where to
turn in the most efficient way possible, since they will be at the roadway edge and more at
eye level. They will compensate for the lack of visibility of the center. At present it is
very difficult to find the driveway entrances into Mounds View Square at night.
The monument sign at the intersection of Long Lake Road and Highway 10 will provide
signage in advance of the bridge structure for motorists traveling west, which is needed 111
since the bridge will block the view of the center identification sign.
• Planning Commission
462-96: Mounds View Square Signage
November 20, 1996
Page 5
d. That granting the variance requested will not confer on the applicant any special privilege
that is denied by this Title to owners of other lands,structures or buildings in the same
district.
g. Circumstances under which the literal interpretation of the provisions of this Title create an
undue hardship on the applicant. Economic hardship may be a circumstance for issuance of
a variance.
The Sign Code allows for tenant identification signs and one pylon sign to identify the
overall shopping center. The construction of a pedestrian bridge will block the visibility of
both the tenant signage and the pylon sign for Mounds View Square until motorists have
traveled under the bridge. The visibility of other shopping centers in Mounds View will
not be impacted by the bridge construction. All other properties which abut Highway 10
have clear visibility from the highway and are not obscured by overhead structures. The
impact on Mounds View Square will be the most significant due to the angle of the
highway, the layout of the shopping center and the position of the bridge.
e. That the variance requested is the minimum variance which would alleviate the hardship.
• f. The variance requested would not be materially detrimental to the purpose of this Title or to
other property in the same zone.
The applicant has requested three monument signs, measuring 12 feet tall and 18 feet
wide. One is proposed to be located at the intersection of Long Lake Road and Highway
10, in advance of the bridge structure to alert motorists to the upcoming shopping center,
and two at the driveway entrances from.Highway 10. The signs are needed because the
center identification sign will be blocked by the bridge from motorists' view when they
travel from east to west on Highway 10. The size of the signs is approximately half the
height of monument style signs along Highway 10 and elsewhere used as the sole
identification for shopping centers. The signs at the driveway entrances are needed to
provide a unmistakable visual signal at the roadside, close to eye level, of the presence of
the shopping center since motorists will have less reaction time than if they had an
unimpeded view of the center identification sign traveling toward Mounds View Square
on Highway 10. With the design requirements in the conditions attached to this variance,
the signs will be tied into the landscape and be less intrusive.
Staff Recommendation: Approval of the attached resolution granting a variance in sign
requirements for Mounds View Square, to allow three monument signs measuring with
conditions.
iocc: John Streeter,Paster Enterprises,2227 University Avenue, St. Paul MN 55114-1677
FAX: 646-1389
MOUNDS VIEW PLANNING COMMISSION
RESOLUTION NO. 484-96 •
CITY OF MOUNDS VIEW
COUNTY OF RAMSEY
STATE OF MINNESOTA
RESOLUTION APPROVING A VARIANCE IN THE MOUNDS VIEW SIGN CODE TO
ALLOW THREE MONUMENT SIGNS AT THE MOUNDS VIEW SQUARE SHOPPING
CENTER, 2535-2585 HIGHWAY 10; PLANNING CASE NO. 462-96.
WHEREAS, the Mounds View Planning Commission has reviewed the request from
Mounds View Assoc. LLP for the construction of three monument signs at the Mounds View
Square Shopping Center, with two of these signs to be placed at the driveway entrances from
Highway 10 and one of these signs to be placed at the intersection of Long Lake Road and
Highway 10; and,
WHEREAS, the applicant has proposed these monument signs to each be 12 feet in height
and 18 feet in width, for an area of 216 square feet; and,
WHEREAS, this property is in the B-4 zoning district, which allows 100 square feet of
signage for each tenant, and a 340 square foot pylon sign; and,
WHEREAS, the City of Mounds View is proposing to construct a pedestrian bridge •
across Highway 10 just west of Long Lake Road; and,
WHEREAS, the position of the bridge will block the view of a portion of the shopping
center's face and its center identification sign from view by motorists traveling on Highway 10,
from east to west; and
WHEREAS, the heaviest traffic in the east to west direction is evening, homebound
commute traffic, which motorists are more likely to stop to shop than motorists traveling to work;
and,
WHEREAS, the Planning Commission has reviewed the criteria used to evaluate variances
from the Sign Code as stated in Section 1008.11 and does hereby make the following findings:
a. Exceptional or extraordinary circumstances apply to the property which do not apply
generally to other properties in the same zone or vicinity and result from lot size or shape,
topography or other circumstances over which the owners or the property since the effective
date hereof had no control.
c. That the special conditions or circumstances do not result from the actions of the applicant.
The property is developed with a retail building that is L-shaped and set back from 111
Highway 10. The City is proposing to construct a pedestrian bridge across Highway 10 at
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November 20, 1996
Page 2
Long Lake Road which will block the view of a portion of the front face of the shopping
center and its center identification sign until motorists travel under the bridge. The
monument signs proposed at the two driveway entrances will alert motorists to where to
turn in the most efficient way possible, since they will be at the roadway edge and more at
eye level. They will compensate for the lack of visibility of the center. At present it is
very difficult to find the driveway entrances into Mounds View Square at night.
The monument sign at the intersection of Long Lake Road and Highway 10 will provide
signage in advance of the bridge structure for motorists traveling west, which is needed
since the bridge will block the view of the center identification sign.
b. The literal interpretation of the provisions of this Title would deprive the applicant of rights
commonly enjoyed by other properties in the same district under the terms of this Title.
d. That granting the variance requested will not confer on the applicant any special privilege
that is denied by this Title to owners of other lands,structures or buildings in the same
district.
g. Circumstances under which the literal interpretation of the provisions of this Title create an
• undue hardship on the applicant. Economic hardship may be a circumstance for issuance of
a variance.
The Sign Code allows for tenant identification signs and one pylon sign to identify the
overall shopping center. The construction of a pedestrian bridge will block the visibility of
both the tenant signage and the pylon sign for Mounds View Square until motorists have
traveled under the bridge. The visibility of other shopping centers in Mounds View will
not be impacted by the bridge construction. All other properties which abut Highway 10
have clear visibility from the highway and are not obscured by overhead structures. The
impact on Mounds View Square will be the most significant due to the angle of the
highway, the layout of the shopping center and the position of the bridge.
e. That the variance requested is the minimum variance which would alleviate the hardship.
f. The variance requested would not be materially detrimental to the purpose of this Title or to
other property in the same zone.
The applicant has requested three monument signs, measuring 12 feet tall and 18 feet
wide. One is proposed to be located at the intersection of Long Lake Road and Highway
10, in advance of the bridge structure to alert motorists to the upcoming shopping center,
and two at the driveway entrances from Highway 10. The signs are needed because the
center identification sign will be blocked by the bridge from motorists' view when they
• travel from east to west on Highway 10. The size of the signs is approximately half the
height of monument style signs along Highway 10 and elsewhere used as the sole
Planning Commission Resolution No. 484-96 •
November 20, 1996
Page 3
identification for shopping centers. The signs at the driveway entrances are needed to
provide a unmistakable visual signal at the roadside, close to eye level, of the presence of
the shopping center since motorists will have less reaction time than if they had an
unimpeded view of the center identification sign traveling toward Mounds View Square
on Highway 10. With the design requirements in the conditions attached to this variance,
the signs will be tied into the landscape and be less intrusive.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that the Mounds View Planning Commission
acting as the Board of Adjustment and Appeals does hereby approve the variance request of
Mounds View Assoc. LLP for three monument signs, with one sign to be placed at each of the
two driveway entrances from Highway 10, and one sign to be placed at the intersection of Long
Lake Road and Highway 10, subject to the following conditions:
1. This variance is being granted in recognition of the anticipated construction of a
pedestrian bridge using a spiral ramp design at the intersection of Long Lake Road
and Highway 10. The signs permitted by this variance shall only be constructed
after commencement of construction of the pedestrian bridge, and only if the
bridge uses the spiral ramp design. The applicant is responsible for obtaining sign
permits from the City prior to construction of the signs.
2. The two signs at the driveway entrances shall consist of a monument style sign or
"sign wall" constructed of brick and measuring 12 feet in height and 18 feet in
width. This"sign wall" shall have an added wall extension on either side
approximately four feet in height and 8 feet in length, finished with a capstone as is
shown for the sign. The sign wall and wall extensions shall be curved, to reduce
the appearance of its mass and to approximate the curvature of the driveways.
Earth shall be bermed against the backside of the sign wall and the wall extensions
to approximately 3 feet from grade. Landscaping shall be planted behind the sign,
to include at least three trees in a cluster, and also in front of the sign. The
landscaping may be designed to remain low in front of that portion sign having
wording. The final design of the sign wall and sign extensions, and the landscaping
plan shall be subject to approval by the Director of Community Development prior
sign permits being issued and landscaping being installed. The brick shall be the
same color as is used for the retail building, unless the color creates too dark of a
background for the signage to be seen. The applicant may propose a different
color compatible with the existing brick used in the shopping center, subject to
approval by the Director of Community Development prior to issuance of sign
permits.
3. The sign at each driveway entrance shall be located on the northwest side of the
driveway more or less as shown in the diagram submitted with this application.
Prior to issuance of any sign permits, however, these signs at the driveway
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November 20, 1996
Page 4
entrances shall be relocated further to the north to allow sufficient sight distance
for motorists exiting from the shopping center onto Highway 10. The applicant
shall provide evidence of permission from MnDOT to locate the signs in the
highway right-of-way, or relocate the signs so they are the shopping center's
property.
4. For the signs at the driveway entrances, no more than 2/3 of the sign wall may be
used for wording(i.e. that portion of the wall face which is 12 feet x 18 feet) as
measured using rectangles around each business's name and the shopping center's
name. Letters shall not exceed 1 foot 6 inches in height. No wording may appear
on the wall extensions. All lettering for tenants names shall be uniform color; the
lettering for the name of the shopping center may be the same color or a
contrasting color. Lettering may be internally illuminated or the sign may have
indirect illumination from ground lighting. Any ground lighting shall be shielded
so light rays are directed to the sign, but the light source is not visible to the street
or parking area.
5. Signage shall be limited to the name of individual businesses and the name of the
S shopping center. At least half of the sign face shall be used for the shopping center
name.
6. The design of the sign to be installed at the intersection of Long Lake Road and
Highway 10 shall be coordinated with the design of the bridge. This variance
allows for 145 square feet of sign area to be used for wording, of which 1/2 must
be used for the name of the shopping center as part of a wall which would be built
east of the bridge. The City shall determine the height and length of the wall and
its placement, in consultation with the applicant, as long as the sign area allowed
by this variance is accommodated. If the applicant desires to display signage on
the wall, the applicant shall be responsible for the cost of constructing up to 280
square feet of wall at this location, unless an alternative funding arrangement with
the City is approved by the City Council.
Adopted this 20th day of November, 1996.
Jerry Peterson, Chairman
ATTEST:
Pamela Sheldon
Community Development Director
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• REQUEST FOR PLANNING COMMISSION ACTION
Meeting Date: November 20, 1996
Staff Report by: Pamela Sheldon, Community Development Director
Planning Case 467-96
File No.:
Request: Warren Schorer, of Land Patterns Landscaping is requesting
approval of a conditional use permit for outdoor sale of Christmas
trees in the parking area by Bridgeman's Restaurant at Mounds
View Square, beginning November 29.
Petitioner: Land Patterns Landscaping
Location: 2535 Highway 10
PIN No. 07-30-23-11-0079
•
Zoning/Land Use: B-4
Mounds View Square Shopping Center
• Applicable Regulations: The B-4 Regional Business District allows for open or outdoor
service, sale and rental as an accessory use with approval of a
conditional use permit (Section 1115.04. Subd. 2) The criteria
which apply are discussed under the Analysis section of this report,
and in the attached resolution of approval.
Attachments: Zoning Map
Planning Application
Letter of Request
Diagram illustrating proposed layout
Certificate of Insurance
Lease Agreement with Paster Enterprises
Background:
Staff has received a request on November 12 for outdoor Christmas tree sales in the
parking lot adjacent to the Bridgeman's Restaurant. The applicant desires to begin sales
on November 29, the day after the Thanksgiving holiday, and was unaware that a
conditional use permit is required for such sales. In order to have the permit before City
Council for action prior to November 29, staff is requesting that the Planning Commission
discuss and then make its recommendation on the permit at your meeting on November
20. We realize that this is not your usual procedure. Staff felt that since this request is for
• temporary sales for a very limited time, is not too complicated and is tied to the holiday
season (which cannot be rescheduled), it would be appropriate to request the Planning
Planning Commission
467-96: Christmas Tree Sales at Mounds View Square
November 20, 1996
Page 2
Commission to act on November 20. The permit will be heard by City Council on
November 25. There is sufficient time to do the notices to surrounding property owners
and the newspaper for this date.
With respect to the issue itself, there have been outdoor sales in the parking lot at Mounds
View Square in the summertime. On June 24, 1996, the City Council granted a
conditional use permit to Merryville Farm Market to operate a produce stand from July 15
to September 2, 1996. On February 26, 1996, Linder's Greenhouses was granted a
conditional use permit to operate a temporary greenhouse facility from March 20 to July
15, 1996. A similar permit was issued to Linder's Greenhouses in 1995. Staff is not
aware of any problems caused by these uses.
Analysis/
Recommendation:
The applicant is proposing to use a portion of the Bridgeman's Restaurant parking lot for
Christmas tree sales (see attached diagram). The area is approximately 8 parking stalls or
1600 square feet. The remainder of this part of the parking lot has 52 spaces, which staff
feels is sufficient to serve the customers of the tree lot. Bridgeman's Restaurant is vacant •
at this time. The applicant is proposing to have lighting around the perimeter of the lot
and one 4 foot x 8 foot sign located as is shown on the diagram. He has permission from
the property owner for operating the tree lot. He has also provided a certificate of
insurance for an aggregate amount of$1,000,000.
The B-4 Regional Business District allows for open or outdoor service, sale and rental as
an accessory use with approval of a conditional use permit. The criteria for approval are
stated in Section 1115.04. Subd. 2 are noted below with comments from staff as to how
this proposal meets the criteria.
a. Outdoor service,sales and equipment rental connected with the principal use is limited to
thirty percent(30%)of the gross floor area of the principal use.
The shopping center contains 102,035 square feet of building area. The applicant
proposes to occupy 1600 square feet in the parking lot, which is 1.6% in comparison to
the building square footage on the site. This criteria is met.
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November 20, 1996
Page 3
b. Outside sales areas are fenced or screened from view of neighboring residential uses or an
abutting residential district in compliance with subdivisions 1103.08(1)through(5)of this
Title.
The parking lot by Bridgeman's Restaurant is does not abut any residential properties, and
is bordered on the east by Long Lake Road, south by Highway 10 and north and east by
the remainder of the Mounds View Square Shopping Center. The property directly across
Long Lake Road is zoned R-1 but is part of the Sunrise Methodist Church property. The
area closest to Bridgeman's is forested and contains a large wetland. The property to the
south is zoned B-2 and R-4, and is developed as Silver View Plaza, a shopping center, and
Wildwood Manor, an apartment building for senior citizens. Mounds View Shopping
Center is screened from view from the apartments by a stand of trees between Wildwood
Manor and Highway 10. The Bridgeman's site is approximately 450 feet from Wildwood
Manor because of the intervening highway right-of-way. Staff considers this criteria to be
met.
c. All lighting shall be hooded and so directed that the light source shall not be visible from the
public right of way or from neighboring residences and shall be in compliance with Section
• • 1103.0 of this Title.
The applicant is proposing lighting around the perimeter of the lot, as is noted in his letter.
The typical lighting used in these situations in a string of light bulbs which are not
shielded. Staff will attempt to get additional information from the applicant prior to your
meeting. If the light strings are low enough (both in height and wattage), staff does not
anticipate problems with light spillage onto other properties.
d. Sales area is grassed or surfaced to control dust.
The applicant is proposing to use an existing parking lot whi ' i . -• asphalt.
This criteria is met.
e. The provisions of subdivision 1125.01(1)e of this Title are considered and satisfactorily
met.
Adverse Effects: The Planning and Zoning Commission shall consider possible adverse
effects of the proposed amendment or conditional use. Its judgment shall be based upon(but
not limited to)the following factors:
(1) Relationship to Municipal Comprehensive Plan.
(2) The geographical area involved.
• (3) Whether such use will tend to or actually depreciate the area in which it is proposed.
(4) The character of the surrounding area.
Planning Commission
467-96: Christmas Tree Sales at Mounds View Square •
November 20, 1996
Page 4
(5) The demonstrated need for such use.
The proposal is for a temporary Christmas tree lot in the parking lot of an existing
shopping center. The shopping center is surrounded by roadways, and the lot itself is at
least 450 feet from the nearest residential property. The short duration of the use will
result in it having little if any effect on the surrounding area. The sale of Christmas trees is
a typical seasonal business in a community such as Mounds View, and serves a community
need. This criteria is met.
Staff Recommendations Adopt the attached resolution recommending that the City
Council approve a conditional use permit for the temporary sale of Christmas trees at
Mounds View Square Shopping Center.
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Applicant: Land Patterns Landscaping
CITY OF MOUNDS VIEW _
PLANNING APPLICATION
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Isanti, MN 55040 COMPANY
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DEVELOPMENT AND MANAGEMENT OF SHOPPING CENTERS
2227 University Ave.•St.Paul,MN 55114-1677•612-646-7901 • Fax 612-646-1389
October 30, 1996 S
CENTRAL PLAZA
45th&Central Ave.N.E. Mr. Warren Schorer
Minneapolis,Minnesota Land Patterns
27701 University Avenue North East
Isanti, MN 55403
CRYSTAL SHOPPING CENTER
Bass Lake Road&West Broadway Re: Christmas Tree Stand
Crystal,Minnesota Bridgeman Lot/Moundsview Square Shopping Center
Moundsview, MN 55112
Dear Mr. Schorer:
DODDWAY SHOPPING CENTER
Smith&Dodd Road
West St.Paul,Minnesota Enclosed, please find a fully executed copy of the Lease Agreement for
your Christmas Trees Operation in the Moundsview Square Shopping
Center.
LEXINGTON PLAZA SHOPPES As you are aware, it will be up to you to get the necessary peddler's
Lexington&Larpenteur
Roseville,Minnesota license from the City of Moundsview. I talked to Mr. Jim Erickson,
784-3055, who advises me that in all probability, the license will be
issued without going before the council. I, however, do urge that you
get that license soon, so if they do insist on going before the counci'
MENDOTA PLAZA there will be ample time.
State Hwy. 110&Dodd Road
Mendota Heights,Minnesota
I trust you have made arrangements for the necessary insurance as
called for in this Letter of Agreement, and if we can assist you in any
way, please let us know.
MOUNDSVIEW SQUARE
Hwy. 10&Long Lake Road Best regards.
Mounds View,Minnesota
Very truly yours,
NORTHWAY SHOPPING CENTER PASTER ENTERPRISES
State Hwy.23 &Woodland
Circle Pines,Minnesota
tio
W. Banet
SIBLEY PLAZA Vice President
West 7th Street&Davern Real Estate
St.Paul,Minnesota
WRB/cew
SOUTHVIEW SHOPPING CENTER •
Southview Blvd. & 13th Ave. S
South St.Paul,Minnesota
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DEVELOPMENT AND MANAGEMENT OF SHOPPING CENTERS
2227 University Ave.•St.Paul,MN 55114-1677•612-646-7901 • Fax 612-646-1389
• October 22, 1996
CENTRAL PLAZA Mr. Warren Schorer
45th&Central Ave.N.E. Land Patterns
Minneapolis,Minnesota
27701 University Avenue North East
Isanti, MN 55403
CRYSTAL SHOPPING CENTER Re: Christmas Tree Stand .
Bass Lake Road&West Broadway Bridgeman Lot/Moundsview Square Shopping Center
Crystal,Minnesota Moundsview, MN 55112 •
Dear Mr. Schorer:
DODDWAY SHOPPINGCENTER This letter will constitute our Rental Agreement for the above captioned
SmithRoad&Dodd g p
West St.Paul,Minnesota premises.
PARTIES: Warren Schorer d/b/a Land Patterns; (Tenant), and Mounds-
view Square Associates, LLP; (Landlord).
LEXINGTON PLAZA SHOPPES
Lexington&Larpenteur
Roseville,Minnesota TERM: Premises (the Bridgeman Parking Lot) are rented for a period
commencing November 29, 1996 and expiring on December 24, 1996.
• Tenant shall be granted the right to commence setting up the Christmas
Tree Stands on November 25, 1996, and removing all trees and
MENDOTA PLAZA structures no later than December 31, 1996. However, selling of
State Hwy. 110&Dodd Road
Mendota Heights,.Minnesota products can only be done between November 29, 1996 and December
24, 1996.
CONDITION OF THE PREMISES: Premises are leased in an "as is"
MOUNDSVIEW SQUARE condition with no obligation on the part of the Landlord for any
Hwy. 10&Long Lake Road or construction, remodelling, repairs.
Mounds View, Minnesota
RENTAL: Rental for this period is One Thousand and 00/100 Dollars
($1 ,000.00), due and payable with the execution of this Lease Agree-
NORTHWAY SHOPPING CENTER ment.
State Hwy.23 &Woodland
Circle Pines,Minnesota UTILITIES: Landlord will allow Tenant to hook up to electricity for the
Tenant's use during this period. Tenant shall be responsible for and
pay promptly for all electricity consumed within the premises during the
SIBLEY PLAZA Tenant's occupancy.
West 7th Street&Davem
St.Paui.Minnesota SALES: It is agreed by Tenant that within ten (10) days following the
last day of occupancy, Tenant will supply Moundsview Square
Associates with the total number of Christmas Trees sold during the
term of occupancy.
'THVIEW SHOPPING CENTER ��
Southview Blvd. & 13th Ave.S
South St.Paul.Minnesota •
INClT 1
MOUNDS VIEW PLANNING COMMISSION
RESOLUTION NO. 487-96 110
CITY OF MOUNDS VIEW
COUNTY OF RAMSEY
STATE OF MINNESOTA
RESOLUTION RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
FOR OUTDOOR SALES OF CHRISTMAS TREES AT MOUNDS VIEW SQUARE
SHOPPING CENTER, 2535 HIGHWAY 10; PLANNING CASE NO. 467-96.
WHEREAS, Warren Schroer of Land Patterns Landscaping has applied for a conditional
use permit to allow outdoor sale of Christmas trees from November 29 to December 25 in the
parking lot for the Mounds View Shopping Center at 2535 Highway 10, which property is zoned
B-4 and is described as follows:
Part lying northeasterly of the centerline of State Trunk Highway 10 of NE 1/4
of N1/4 (Subject to Roads and Highways) in Section, 7, Township 30, Range 23
WHEREAS, the Mounds View Zoning Code allows open and outdoor sales in the B-4
Regional Business Zoning District with the approval of a conditional use permit; and,
WHEREAS, the Planning Commission has reviewed the following documents regarding •
this proposal:
a. Zoning Map
b. Planning Application
c. Diagram illustrating proposed layout
d. Letter of Request
e. Certificate of Insurance
f. Lease Agreement with Paster Enterprises
-•• : - , - . 1 ; • • e •; es-the-fallowing-fist-the-criteria-for
approval in Section 1115.04. Subd. 2 has been met:
a. Outdoor service,sales and equipment rental connected with the principal use is limited to
thirty percent(30%)of the gross floor area of the principal use.
The shopping center contains 102,035 square feet of building area. The applicant
proposes to occupy 1600 square feet in the parking lot, which is 1.6% in comparison to
the building square footage on the site. This criteria is met.
b. Outside sales areas are fenced or screened from view of neighboring residential uses or an
abutting residential district in compliance with subdivisions 1103.08(1)through(5)of this •
Title.
• The parking lot by Bridgeman's Restaurant is does not abut any residential properties, and
is bordered on the east by Long Lake Road, south by Highway 10 and north and east by
the remainder of the Mounds View Square Shopping Center. The property directly across
Long Lake Road is zoned R-1 but is part of the Sunrise Methodist Church property. The
area closest to Bridgeman's is forested and contains a large wetland. The property to the
south is zoned B-2 and R-4, and is developed as Silver View Plaza, a shopping center, and
Wildwood Manor, an apartment building for senior citizens. Mounds View Shopping
Center is screened from view from the apartments by a stand of trees between Wildwood
Manor and Highway 10. The Bridgeman's site is approximately 450 feet from Wildwood
Manor because of the intervening highway right-of-way. This criteria is met.
c. All lighting shall be hooded and so directed that the light source shall not be visible from the
public right of way or from neighboring residences and shall be in compliance with Section
1103.0 of this Title.
The applicant is proposing lighting around the perimeter of the lot. (Pending further
information from applicant.)
d. Sales area is grassed or surfaced to control dust.
The applicant is proposing to use an existing parking lot which is surfaced with asphalt.
This criteria is met.
• e. The provisions of subdivision 1125.01(1)e of this Title are considered and satisfactorily
met.
Adverse Effects: The Planning and Zoning Commission shall consider possible adverse
effects of the proposed amendment or conditional use. Its judgment shall be based upon(but
not limited to)the following factors:
(1) Relationship to Municipal Comprehensive Plan.
(2) The geographical area involved.
(3) Whether such use will tend to or actually depreciate the area in which it is proposed.
(4) The character of the surrounding area
(5) The demonstrated need for such use.
The proposal is for a temporary Christmas tree lot in the parking lot of an existing
shopping center. The shopping center is surrounded by roadways, and the lot itself is at
least 450 feet from the nearest residential property. The short duration of the use will
result in it having little if any effect on the surrounding area. The sale of Christmas trees is
a typical seasonal business in a community such as Mounds View, and serves a community
need. This criteria is met.
•
Planning Commission Resolution 487-96 •
November 20, 1996
Page 3
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that the Mounds View Planning Commission
recommends that the Mounds View City Council approve the conditional use permit for
Christmas tree sales at Mounds View Square Shopping Center with the following conditions:
1. The facility shall be allowed to operate from November 29, .1996 to December 25,
1996, with an allowance for site cleanup from December 25 to December 29. The
applicant shall remove all evidence of the Christmas tree lot, and return the parking
lot to its current condition, by December 29.
2. The hours of operation shall be 8:00 AM to 10:00 PM.
3. The Christmas tree lot shall be located in the Bridgeman's Restaurant parking lot
as shown on the diagram submitted with the application.
4. One 4 x 8 foot sign shall be allowed, to be placed as shown on the diagram
submitted with the application. The sign may have ground-mounted, indirect
lighting.
5. String lighting along the perimeter of the Christmas tree lot shall be permitted, as
long as the supports are no taller than 10 feet, and the bulbs do not exceed 100 111
watts. (Pending further information from applicant)
6. The applicant shall carry general liability insurance in an amount of$1,000,000.
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that the Planning Commission directs Staff to forward
this resolution to the City Council prior to the approval of the minutes.
Adopted this 20th day of November, 1996.
Jerry Peterson, Chairperson
ATTEST:
Pamela Sheldon, Community Development Director
•
(SEAL)
Item #7
REQUEST FOR PLANNING COMMISSION ACTION
• Meeting Date: November 20, 1996
Staff Report by: James Ericson, Planning Associate
Planning Case
File No.: 466-96
Request: The applicant is requesting a minor subdivision to move 12.5 feet
from 7532 Silver Lake Road to 7540 Silver Lake Road.
Petitioner: Larry Beach, on behalf of
Richard Edin (7532 Silver Lake Road) and
William Culbert (7540 Silver Lake Road).
Location: 7532 and 7540 Silver Lake Road
PIN No. 7532 Silver Lake Road: Pending
7540 Silver Lake Road: 07-30-23-21-0069
Zoning/Land Use: The properties are currently zoned R-2, Single and Two-Family
Residential and are improved with two twin-homes. Total acreage
of existing property is 46,935 square feet (1.08 acres.)
• Applicable Regulations: Section 1201.03, Subd. 11, defines a minor subdivision as"A
subdivision of a parcel or parcels or property less than two acres in
size in which no more than one additional parcel or lot is created.
Section 1202.01, Subd. 1, states"Minor subdivision requests shall
require at least a surveyor's certificate for approval."
Section 1104.02, Subd. 2, requires a minimum lot width for R-2
lots of 100 feet.
Section 1104.02, Subd. 3, requires . • • ::
square feet for R-2 lots.
Section 1204.02, Subd. 6, requires an additional park dedication fee
for re-subdivided parcels. This applies only when park dedication
fees have not already been paid for the property or if the gross
density per acre increases as a result of the re-subdivision. Park
dedication fees have been paid for the property to the north, but no
fees have been collected for the subdivision to the south.
Attachments: Planning Application
Zoning Map
• Certificate of Survey (reduction)
Descriptions of Easements
PLANNING CASE NO. 466-96
November 14, 1996
•
Page 2
Background:
This minor subdivision does not create an additional lot but instead takes a 12 '/2 foot wide
strip of land from one lot and adds it to the adjoining lot to the north. This action would
formalize a previous agreement made with the property owner to the north and Mr. Beach.
The property owner to the south was informed of this impending action prior to the
purchase of 7532 Silver Lake Road. Because drainage and utility easements have already
been recorded for the existing configuration of the two lots, they will need to be amended in
such a way that vacates the old side lot easement between the two properties and creates a
new ten(10) foot wide easement centered on the revised side lot property lines.
Documents describing the vacated and new easements shall be provided by the applicant
and verified by the City Attorney and staff prior to your meeting on December 4.
Analysis:
The minimum square footage for lot area required by the Code is 12,500 feet. The
properties currently well exceed that requirement with 20,853 square feet for the property
to the north and 26,075 square feet for the property to the south. After the re-subdivision,
the properties will remain in compliance with this requirement with 23,460 square feet for
the property to the north and 23,468 square feet for the property to the south. Currently, IP
the properties meet or exceed the minimum lot width requirement (100 feet for the
northerly property and 125 feet for the southerly property.) After the re-subdivision, the
width of the properties will be 112.5 feet for both.
The applicant has provided a revised Certificate of Survey for the properties located at
7540 and 7532 Silver Lake Road. This revised Certificate of Survey shows the property
lines and easements as revised with the former property lines and easements in the
background. The revised lots have been labeled as Parcel X(7540 Silver Lake Road) and
Parcel Y (7532 Silver Lake Road.) The Certificate of Survey includes the revised legal
descriptions for both parcels, as well as their former descriptions.
Recommendation:
Staff is favorable toward the approval of this minor subdivision if the following
requirements are met:
1. The applicant shall submit the signed, revised easements prior to the City Council's
action on this item. The easements are expected for your meeting on December 4.
2. The applicant shall provide the City with a park dedication fee in the amount of
$100 per Code requirements in Section 1204.02.
3. The applicant shall provide the City with notarized letters of permission from •
William Culpert and Richard Edin, owners of 7532 and 7540 Silver Lake Road,
respectively.
CITY OF MOUNDS VIEW
PLANNING APPLICATION
APPL!CAN IT: kR2 •/ EM.k
Phone 9 F0 -SZar
0 ADDRESS: ( 9 7 Kii0
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Street Address, City, State, and Zp Code
Interest in Property (check appropriate box):
❑ Owner of Property
❑ Contract for Deed Owner
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O Lessee, Operator, Manager
❑ Agreement to Purchase •
❑ Other (explain)
Documentary evidence of applicant's interest in lie property may be required before Spa! Cay aeon of tits request
PROPERTY INVOLVED:
Address/General Location 1153 2 - '15410 .51lver 2.4-ke. /2e4, cl
Legal Description or Property Identification Number
Legal Owner: Name/Address 10;c E:d;N '7532. 511aer- 2..a We.
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Present Use (check appropriate box): <.
❑ UndevelopedNacant
❑ Single Family Dwelling
• Duplex/Two Family Dwelling ./_❑ Multi-Family (No. of Units ) „
❑ Business'Cammercial Establishment
❑ Industrial Establishment
❑ Other (explain)
Property Classification: 0 Abstract Z Torrens
RECUEST: -1-7\-4I , 6' / Fro►,., rl 5 3a ai.) J ax:18 4
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'Pease note: Apeiicant may be resconsibie for accitional fees associated with e review cf:his request.
I HERESY DECLARE THAT THE ABOVE STAT.ME.VT ARE TRUE. a 6)-421
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Mound's Wave, MN 55112
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10 feet out west 30 feet thersoL
REUSED PROPERTY DESCRIPTION$
PARCEL 4 Al that part of Lot 3 Block 1, DALEY KNOLLS Ramsey Count; ifinnesota Oing
south of the north 50 fret threot together with the north 125 fret of Lots 10
and 71, BERING LAKE'PARK KNOLL$ Ramsey Cavnt}g MLvnesota
• pARCEt 1~ The south 625 lest of the north 75 fist of Lots 10 and 11, SPRANG LAKE PARK
KJWOLL.$ Ramsey Coun1j Minnesota
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9180 LEXINGTON AVE. N.E.
CIRCLE PINES(LEXINGTON), MINNESOTA 55014
• (612).786-5556 FAX.#(612)786-6607
November 12, 1996
Proposed Descriptions for Easements to be Vacated
The south 5 feet of Lot 3, Block 1, Dailey Knolls, Ramsey County, Minnesota, except the west 30
feet thereof
The north 5 feet of Lot 11, Spring Lake Park Knolls,Ramsey County,Minnesota, except the west.38
feet thereof and the north 12.5 feet of the east 8 feet of the west 38 feet of said Lot 11.
The north 5 feet of Lot 10 and the south 7.5 feet of the north 12.5 feet of the east 10 feet of said Lot
10, all in Spring Lake Park Knolls,Ramsey County,Minnesota.
Proposed Easement Descriptions for Parcel X and Parcel Y •
Parcel X:
The south 5 feet of the north 12.5 feet of Lot 11 except the west 30 feet thereof and the south 5 feet
of the north 12.5 feet of Lot 10, all in Spring Lake Park Knolls, Ramsey County, Minnesota.
Parcel Y:
The south 5 feet of the north 17.5feet of Lot 11, except the west 38 feet thereof and the south 5 feet
of the north 17.5 feet of Lot 10, all in Spring Lake Park Knolls, Ramsey County, Minnesota.
Item #8
• REQUEST FOR PLANNING COMMISSION ACTION
Meeting Date: November 20, 1996
Staff Report by: Pamela Sheldon, Community Development Director
Planning Case
File No.: 468-96
Request: The applicant is requesting a variance in the Sign Code to allow the
installation of a monument-style directional sign at one driveway
entrance on Highway 10 and one on County Road H2.
Petitioner: Saturn Development
Location: 2375-2395 Highway 10
PIN No. 08-30-23-31-0001,2,3
Zoning/Land Use: B-3
The property at 2375 Highway 10 is being used for the existing
Saturn dealership, and at 2395 Highway 10 for an existing Citgo
• gasoline station.
Applicable Regulations: The regulations applicable to this request are stated and discussed
under the analysis section of this report.
Attachments: Diagram of sign
Background:
The Saturn dealership intends to purchase the Citgo gasoline station, and use this property
for an expansion. At your meeting on November 6, the Planning Commission considered
and recommended in favor of a conditional use permit which would allow for this
expansion. The Saturn proposal included the addition of two monument signs, measuring
5 feet high by 8 foot 6.5 inches wide (42.7 sq.ft.), which would be located at the
westernmost driveway on Highway 10 and the easternmost driveway on County Road H2.
The signs would assist in directing customer traffic.
The existing signage includes the following:
• existing pylon sign 10'x 10' on 26' high supports; area= 100 sq.ft.
• existing wall sign 23" x 26.5'; area= 50.8 sq.ft. •
• used car sign, ground mounted 8' 6-1/2" x 5' =42.7 sq.ft.
• miscellaneous small directional signs
• The total signage on the site is 193.5 square feet. All of the signage has approvedp ermits.
The B-3 district allows for 100 square feet per business occupant, and one general
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Planning Commission •
Planning Case No. 468-96: Saturn Development
November 20, 1996
Page 2
pedestal sign not exceeding 340 square feet, for a total sign area of 440 square feet. If the
two additional monument signs were added to the existing signage on the site, the total
signage on the site would be 278.9 square feet, which is well within the total square
footage allowed. The way the signage is proposed to be distributed and the types of signs
proposed, however, are not anticipated by the Sign Code. In effect, signage would be
redistributed from the pylon sign to two monument signs. Staff feels that this approach is
acceptable and makes the signage package more functional, but it does require approval of
a variance.
This item is being scheduled on your November 20 meeting for discussion, and has been
noticed for action on December 4. The criteria for approval of variances to the Sign Code
are stated below with comments from staff as to how this proposal meets the criteria.
a. Exceptional or extraordinary circumstances apply to the property which do not apply
generally to other properties in the same zone or vicinity and result from lot size or shape,
topography or other circumstances over which the owners or the property since the effective
date hereof had no control.
c. That the special conditions or circumstances do not result from the actions of the applicant. •
The Saturn dealership has 764 feet of frontage along Highway 10 and 580 feet of frontage
along County Road H2, and two driveways on each frontage. This amount of frontage is
longer than most properties along the commercial corridor on Highway 10. The City's
Sign Code limits properties in the B-3 district to two types of signage: one 340 square
foot pylon sign and business occupant signage not to exceed 100 square feet. The Sign
Code does not anticipate the provision of directional signage on properties in the B-3
district. Due to the long frontages and the types of activities on this site, directional
signage is needed to insure customer safety and smooth traffic flow. The applicant's
proposal-does-not-increase the-total-square-footage of signage above the amount allowed
by the Sign Code, but redistributes sign area from what would have been displayed on the
pylon sign to two monument-style directional signs.
b. The literal interpretation of the provisions of this Title would deprive the applicant of rights
commonly enjoyed by other properties in the same district under the terms of this Title.
d. That granting the variance requested will not confer on the applicant any special privilege
that is denied by this Title to owners of other lands,structures or buildings in the same
district.
g. Circumstances under which the literal interpretation of the provisions of this Title create an
undue hardship on the applicant. Economic hardship may be a circumstance for issuance of •
a variance.
• Planning Commission
Planning Case No. 468-96: Saturn Development
November 20, 1996
Page 3
The amount of signage allowed on this site will not be increased by the granting of this
variance. The total sign area on the site will be 279 square feet, where 440 square feet are
allowed. Redistribution of sign area from what would be allowed for a pylon sign to
monument-style directional signs will reduce the visual impact of signage on the site. The
applicant will be unable to provide adequate directional signage to customers without
approval of this variance. Such signage is needed to improve safety and smooth traffic
flow.
e. That the variance requested is the minimum variance which would alleviate the hardship.
f. The variance requested would not be materially detrimental to the purpose of this Title or to
other property in the same zone.
The amount of signage requested, when added to the existing signage on the site, is 161
square feet less than the sign area permitted to the site. The size of the directional signs in
modest in comparison to the scale of the site and the length of the frontages. The use of
directional signage, as opposed to a larger pylon sign, will make the signage on the site
more functional.
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Staff Recommendation: Favorable to granting the variance based on the fact that the
total amount of signage on the site is less than allowed by the Code, and the size of and
activities on the site require additional directional signage for customers to insure safety
and smooth traffic flow.
cc:
Jim Price, Saturn Development, P.O. Box 10813, White Bear Lake, MN 55110; FAX 790-9416
Darwin Lindahl, Darwin Lindahl Architects, P.A. 5701 Shingle Creek Parkway, Suite#130,
Minneapolis, MN 55430; FAX 560-0441
Francis J. Coyle, Mr., Coyle, Gilman& Stengel, 305 First of America Bank Building, 100
Seventeenth Street, Rock Island, IL 61201; FAX 788-0480
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To: Mounds View Planning Commission
From: Pamela Sheldon, Community Development Director
Subject: Proposed Schedule for Planning Commission Meetings in 1997
Date: November 20, 1996
As we approach the end of the year, we need to set the schedule for Planning Commission
meetings in 1997. I have attached a calendar with suggested dates circled for your review. The
meetings in January and July are on the second and fourth Wednesdays because of the New
Year's Day and Fourth of July holidays. We would also like to discuss with Planning Commission
the current practice of having every case go to an agenda meeting and then an action meeting, and
having the agenda and action meetings separate.
The present time line for bringing cases to Planning Commission is as follows:
• Deadline for submittal: Friday three weeks prior to agenda meeting
(usually last Friday of month)
Agenda meeting Third Wednesday of month
Action meeting First Wednesday of following month
Most of the cases handled by Planning Commission must also be forwarded to City Council for
final action. If an applicant submits on the deadline, it is 33 days from when a recommendation
will be made by Planning Commission and 52 days from when City Council takes action. If the
applicant submits somewhere in between deadlines, we are usually up against the 60 day rule. If
an applicant misses the deadline for submittal, they must waitup to one month before they can
submit again to get on the Planning Commission agenda for discussion. Many applicants are not
aware of the lead time necessary to submit, and so miss the deadlines.
Staff would like to propose that the Planning Commission agendas be divided into discussion and
action items so that the longest delay, if an applicant misses a submittal deadline, is approximately
two weeks. We would also like to suggest that certain items such as conditional use permits for
oversized garages and for temporary outdoor sales, lot splits, simpler variances be discussed and
decided in the same meeting, if possible. If Planning Commission felt that the case was not ready
for decision, then it could be continued to the next meeting two weeks later.
• We felt that this was an appropriate time to bring up these issues, since we need to set the
meeting schedule for next year.
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Forum on the First Ring
A Working Conference of the Community Connections Project
1 << t• Design Center for American Urban Landscape
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December 11 - 12, 1996
Earle Brown Continuing Education Center
„ University of Minnesota, St. Paul ,
UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA WHY A FORUM?
QDesign Center for American
' Urban Landscape First-ring suburban communities have long been mainstays of stability. Home to
thousands of post-war families,these communities offered the promise of an attrac-
The Design Center forAnterican Ur- tive, secure, and comfortable lifestyle: a rural setting, new homes in low-density
ban Landscape is a research unit residential developments, accessible clusters of goods and services, high-quality
within the College of Architecture schools. They were the wave of the future,the norm to which many aspired.
and Landscape Architecture at the Forty years ter the first ring's initial surge of growth,however,the reality is slightly
University of Minnesota. It was es- different. ' tese are communities in transition,and transition has brought with it a
tablished with a grant from the Day- -
ton Hudson Foundation, support
set of corn lex and dynamic challenges:
from federal,state and local govern- •reno rating and revitalizing an aging housing stock;
ment agencies,and grants front non- • worl ing with outdated land-use'and transportation policies;
profit organizations. Its mission is •addr ssing escalating human development needs;and
to educate public and private deci- •recoi nizing environmental concerns and neglected natural resources. '
sion makers,professionals and citi- These chal °nges have not only given rise to a sense of urgency, but created the
zens about the value of design as a opportunity to assess the tools the first ring will need as it moves into the next
strategic partner with economic and century—to determine what it will take to maintain"livable communities.”
human interests in the making of This task will fall to the full spectrum of community leadership within the first ring.
community-based development The Design Center's "Forum on the First Ring" is intended to bring together elected
strategies and sustainable urban; officials,city staff,and other civic leaders from more than thirty first-ring commu-
landscapes. nities to discuss what strategies of promise are in place and what strategies we will
The Community Connections Project need to create to move the region forward.
and this conference are funded
through a grant from the McKnight What We Hope to Accomplish
Foundation. The forum is intended to accomplish four things:
1.Setting the Stage—exploring the public policy and physical planning context
within which discussions about strategy must occur;
2. Identifying Models—sharing emerging municipal approaches to transit cor-
ridors,natural systems,housing,and human services that might be replicated;
3.Evaluating Implementation Strategies—examining the obstacles and oppor-
tunities to move promising strategies forward; and
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For further information,call the 4.Adding It Up—developing areas of consensus about what to do next.
Design Center: 627-1850 ext.313 We hope the forum will both take stock and set a course. The Design Center is
eager to explore ways to support the efforts of first-ring communities to share infor-
Photo:Richfield, 1954.Minneapolis Star& mation,create new development and policy tools, and work in concert for legisla-
Tribune,Minnesota Historical Society tive and regulatory changes at the state and regional level.
The Work Groups: _
We have divided the working sessions into two parts. Part A will crystallize some of the key issues facing first-ring commu-
nities and define the component parts of those issues.Part B will examine implementation—what tools are available,where
gaps exist, and what obstacles must be overcome. Each Part will open with a panel presentation of case studies, followed by
an audience discussion. The groups will then break into small working sessions to pursue issues more intensively.
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Corridors Work Group__ Natural Systems Work Group ,
' When communities search for development and redevelop- Natural systems form the:underiying physical base on which
ment sites and opportunities,the corridor frequently emerges each of our communities sits. But past land-use decisions that
as a'flexible resource and valuable asset.Typically corridors failed to take environmental considerations into account have
are found along trunk highways or county roads, and their led to such problems as decreased water quality and stormwater
development patterns vary widely in scale,capacity,and land- capacity, the loss of urban forest, or a dearth of urban wilds.
use. Making the transition from a trunk highway to a multi- The premise for this session is that the natural systems of these ,
purpose community corridor, however, requires creative communities are part of a uniquely public realm — the civic
thinking, flexible tools and policies, and seasoned negotia- infrastructure—and that cities need to integrate these systems
tion skills. The discussion will focus on issues surrounding: into the municipal planning process in order to enhance their •
long-term economic, social, and environmental health. The
• mixed-use redevelopment on transportation corridors; ,
• integration of transit into small scale development; discussion will highlight three themes that represent different
and aspects of an environmental agenda:
• diverse approaches to neighborhood nodes. • a focus on environmental quality;
Some of the anticipated policy questions are: • the conflicting values of open space;and
• natural systems as public infrastructure. ,
• What is the best balance between community needs
and regional/federal systems and standards? Some of the anticipated policy questions are:
• What is the city's role in creating a sense of commu- • What are distinct environmental issues in the first-ring? .
nity and connection along the corridor? s., • How effective are current approaches?
• How might cities rethink policies and working' • What structural changes are needed for natural systems
strategies to encourage mixed-use development? to become an integral part of city and regional planning?
Housing and Neighborhoods Work Group Human Services & Civic Capacity Work Group
The wave of new housing development in outer-ring sub- Social needs in the first ring have historically been addressed
urbs has set a metro standard for measuring the growth and through traditional anchoring institutions: schools, churches
stability of cities. Yet,first-ring suburbs do not have the raw and civic organizations.As these needs have changed, those
land necessary to meet this narrow definition of growth. To institutions have been supplemented by an emerging social
address their changing and diverse demographics,these corn- infrastructure of human development and social service pro-
munities_must instead_designer-uuique_development_model , viders.Cities have also explored new models that involve citi-
that takes advantage of their existing stock,creates linkages zens more directly in responding to the community's Chang-
to services and amenities,and intensifies neighborhood iden- ing socio/economic profile. The discussion will focus on three
tity. The discussion will focus on issues surrounding: elements of the human development landscape:
• alternative models for renovation of existing housing; • providing a social safety net in the first ring;
• defining what affordable housing means in the first • coping with limited resources and cultivating public/
ring;and private partnerships;and
• integrating low-income housing issues into overall • creating a greater civic capacity by involving citizens in
housing policies. city planning and priority-setting.
Some of the anticipated policy questions are: Some of the anticipated policy questions are:
• How do individual rehab and renovation projects add • What are the roles of the county, United Way,and cities
up to a package marketable to the private sector? in providing human services within the first ring? •
• How does housing policy address neighborhoods as a • What are possible funding sources for the soft costs of
whole—including neighborhood services and ameni- , human services?
ties—not just build units? • How can human development and civic capacity be s
integrated into community development?