HomeMy WebLinkAbout07-10-2006PROCEEDINGS OF THE MOUNDS VIEW EDA 1
CITY OF MOUNDS VIEW 2
RAMSEY COUNTY, MINNESOTA 3
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Regular Meeting 5
July 10, 2006 6
Mounds View City Hall 7
2401 Highway 10, Mounds View, MN 55112 8
6:20 P.M. 9
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1. CALL MEETING TO ORDER 12
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2. ROLL CALL: Acting President Stigney, Commissioner Flaherty, and Commissioner 14
Thomas. Commissioner Gunn arrived at 6:25 p.m. 15
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NOT PRESENT: President Marty 17
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3. APPROVAL OF AGENDA 19
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MOTION/SECOND: FLAHERTY/THOMAS. To Approve the July 10, 2006 Agenda as 22
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Ayes – 3 Nays – 0 Motion carried. 25
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4. PUBLIC INPUT 27
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There was none. 29
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5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES 31
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A. EDA Minutes, June 26, 2006. 33
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MOTION/SECOND: THOMAS/FLAHERTY. To Approve the June 26, 2006 Minutes as 35
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Ayes – 3 Nays – 0 Motion carried. 38
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6. CONSENT AGENDA 40
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None. 42
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7. EDA BUSINESS 44
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A. Review the Mounds View Tax Increment Financing (TIF) Policy 46
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Community Development Director Ericson explained that the issue was requested for additional 48
consideration. He said the EDA asked the Planning Commission about scenarios regarding 49
increment being generated through the life of the three TIF districts. He stated it was requested 50
that the City’s TIF policy be compared to the St. Anthony Village’s policy. 51
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Director Ericson gave an update regarding Planning Commission’s discussion on the subject. He 53
stated there was no consensus from the Planning Commission about what should be done. He 54
said they were not able to present any recommendation about whether the TIF increment should 55
be supported as-is or changed. 56
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Director Ericson stated the original three TIF districts run through 2015 and the increment will 58
no longer be available after that time. Hs stated the question is whether to maximize the 59
increment through the remaining years of the TIF districts, which is the status quo, or whether to 60
change the TIF districts. 61
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Commissioner Gunn arrived at 6:25 p.m. 63
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Director Ericson said the Planning Commission felt they were not in the position to make a 65
recommendation at this time. He said they agreed with the Economic Development Commission 66
that County Road 10 and City streets are the priority. He said they were not sure how much 67
money would be available and how much spending funds in one area would decrease funding for 68
another area. 69
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Director Ericson stated that the Planning Commission also considered at scenarios that the EDA 71
discussed and there was an additional item of discussion: the impact on the median-value home 72
in Mounds View. 73
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Director Ericson stated that the concern is that because the dollars were presented in a 2006 75
figure, without any inflation or estimation of property values over time, a recommendation based 76
on static figures will not be correct because it will not be the reality in 2015. He stated the 77
Planning Commission suggested spending some increment on the corridor, but are not making a 78
recommendation nor are they explicitly supporting the status quo. 79
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Director Ericson stated that both the Mounds View’s and St. Anthony’s TIF policies are 81
presented. He stated they are both structured the same, but St. Anthony’s goes into more detail. 82
He stated the EDA could review the TIF policy and make amendments and changes. He stated at 83
this point it is being brought back for additional EDA discussion. 84
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Director Ericson reminded the EDA of their previous vote supporting the status quo. 86
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Commissioner Flaherty stated that he read the St. Anthony TIF policy, believes it is a good start, 88
and needs to be personalized for Mounds View. He stated in terms of the City’s need for TIF, 89
the City will have $14.3 million in the status quo and $34 million worth of improvements have 90
been identified. He stated that past surveys of the residents point that the needs are high on 91
residents’ lists of priorities also. He stated the money is also needed for streets. 92
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Commissioner Flaherty stated he previously said that if the present increment is not maximized, 94
the Council will have to go back to the citizens for funds in the form of bonds or tax increases. 95
He stated he is in favor of giving money back to the citizens, but does not “want to take money 96
out of the left pocket and put it into the right.” 97
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Commissioner Thomas asked what Staff is requesting from the EDA. She stated there are two 99
different issues, a TIF policy and a TIF plan. She stated the policy is in front of the EDA and 100
asked what Staff is requesting regarding the TIF plan. She stated the TIF policy is very similar to 101
St. Anthony. She asked what the EDA needs to accomplish and whether Staff wants the EDA to 102
present a plan. 103
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Director Ericson replied that staff would like to know if the policy is fine as is. He stated there 105
was a desire to look at other plans and Staff and the EDA wanted to review them. He stated in 106
terms of the plan, Staff is looking at possible expenditures through the life of the districts. He 107
stated the EDA needs to formalize an agreement regarding how the funds should be spent. 108
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Director Ericson added that Staff is looking for direction about priorities for funding 110
expenditures. He stated the EDC has laid out their priorities and that Staff would like direction 111
about where to focus their efforts. 112
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Acting President Stigney stated he appreciated Director Ericson’s summary of the Planning 114
Commission meeting. He stated he does not recall what the Planning Commission’s priorities 115
are and would like to be informed. He stated the Planning Commission is being asked by the 116
EDC for input to have more of a balance between economic and residents’ interests. 117
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Acting President Stigney stated that regarding Scenario B, removing $2 million from the SYSCO 119
district, that taxpayers would save $32 per home per year in taxes. Acting President Stigney 120
stated he may agree with such a plan. He stated he would like to use TIF to bring in a 121
development, and once the development is done, the TIF should be given back to the taxpayers. 122
He stated he does not believe in an “all or nothing” situation. He stated that residents have paid 123
in enough and should get some back. 124
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Acting President Stigney addressed the policy and stated he does not have a problem if the EDA 126
considers St. Anthony’s policy as a basis to begin. He stated he likes St. Anthony’s summary 127
about the purpose of TIF funds. He explained that nailing down a TIF policy going forward 128
should be a priority. He stated he would like to see a summary of St. Anthony’s policy 129
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incorporated into Mound’s View TIF policy. He stated he does not have a problem with Staff 130
reviewing St. Anthony’s policy. 131
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Commissioner Thomas stated the policies are very similar and that she would not like to spend a 133
lot of time on the policy instead of working on the actual TIF plan. She stated the policy does 134
not speak to pre-1990 projects and that she does not see a differentiation among the districts. 135
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Acting President Stigney stated it does discuss pre-1990 developments and reiterated his support 137
of the summary in St. Anthony’s policy 138
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Commissioner Gunn stated that she was confused by the Planning Commission meeting as well. 140
She said that she agrees with Commissioner Flaherty about the balance of the TIF funding. She 141
stated there is always somewhere that the taxes will be raised. She added that she believes St. 142
Anthony’s policy is fairly similar and that nothing caught her attention either way. 143
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Director Ericson addressed the “all or nothing” and B scenarios. He stated Commissioner Gunn 145
raised a good point. He added that the three TIF districts are governed under different laws 146
regarding the collection of TIF. He stated any funds or increment collected go into a pool that 147
can be spent anywhere in the City for expenditures. He added that the City has not closed out the 148
district because of this reason. He stated until the districts are closed, the TIF money is collected. 149
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Director Ericson stated Finance Director Beer analyzed the savings if the various scenarios were 151
adopted. He mentioned that the decertification of SYSCO District 3 could be done immediately. 152
He stated the tax dollars would then be turned back to the general levy, which would spread 153
across more properties where property owners would see a tax decrease. 154
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Director Ericson stated that, all things being equal, property owners would notice a slight 156
decrease in their tax bill, but other taxes may be increased. He stated the Planning Commission 157
initially wanted to recommend “what was of impact to the property owner.” He stated the 158
Planning Commission believed that if the amount of money given back was negligible, then it 159
did not make sense to give up the TIF dollars. 160
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Director Ericson stated the Planning Commission made it clear that County Road 10 is a priority. 162
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Director Ericson explained that he went through St. Anthony’s and Mounds View’s policies and 164
that Saint Anthony has a stronger policy statement. He stated that perhaps the EDC should 165
review the policies and make a recommendation. He stated the EDA has the authority to make 166
changes to the policy. 167
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Acting President Stigney stated the County and School District taxes are confusing. He stated 169
the EDA is discussing City taxes and $32 is not an amount to take lightly. He stated that the 170
money can go back into the taxpayers’ pockets and the City is only losing $2 million. He stated 171
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there is not enough money for all of the projects regardless and the City needs to scrutinize 172
projects and determine priorities. 173
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Acting President Stigney stated he has some problems with the applications for the TIF money. 175
He stated he would like the Planning Commission’s priority list for specific projects. 176
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Commissioner Thomas stated she favors Scenario B because it is not just an issue. She stated it 178
is a move the City can make to put properties back on the tax rolls and to send the message that 179
Mounds View will give assistance but that will be over once the businesses are on their feet. She 180
stated it is a larger issue than the $32 refund. She added that the money belongs to the taxpayers 181
and it makes the City responsible. 182
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Commissioner Thomas stated that TIF funds are easy for the City to spend and the City needs to 184
make a symbolic measure to remind the community and Council about whose money it is. She 185
stated the City should not be asking for the money. She added that she likes projects that are 186
visible, not ones the citizens do not see because the City does not ask specifically for the funds. 187
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Commissioner Flaherty stated there are better ways to make symbolic moves. He stated he likes 189
Mounds View’s body of work, but likes the way Saint Anthony’s policy flows. He stated Saint 190
Anthony’s policy is concise, precise, and strong. He stated that Mounds View has a policy, but it 191
could be formatted better. 192
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Economic Development Coordinator Backman stated he was at the Planning Commission 194
meeting on July 5th. He said there was some suggestion that the five scenarios did not have the 195
validity if there was not the factor of inflation. He stated he does believe the scenarios are fair 196
because the same assumptions were made throughout. 197
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Coordinator Backman stated if there is a desire for Staff to analyze how the policy is written, the 199
EDC would be willing to compare the policies and would even be willing to review those of 200
other cities. He stated the language could be refined. 201
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Acting President Stigney stated he would like the summary from Saint Anthony’s policy 203
incorporated and suggested it be run by the EDC. 204
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Ken Glidden, 5240 Edgewood Drive, stated he has been at several of the TIF discussions. He 206
stated the discussions are confusing because the issues of the policy and plan are not kept 207
separate. He said he does not want to deal much with existing districts. 208
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Mr. Glidden stated he agrees that if there was clear-cut criteria established with the districts, 210
there would not be the discussions about when and what to do. He stated that he does not believe 211
the TIF policies are precise or clear enough. 212
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Mr. Glidden stated he would like to see what goals are established with various TIF districts and 214
steps to take when it is completed so there is no confusion. He stated he has not seen the Saint 215
Anthony or Mounds View TIF policies. He said he came here asking the EDA to ensure that 216
there are things in Mounds View’s TIF policy addressing specific objectives, criteria of TIF 217
districts, and benefits to City. 218
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Mr. Glidden stated he scanned through a document that addresses those issues and that there are 220
serious discussions about criterion establishing a TIF district. He stated that the Mounds View 221
TIF policy should address those issues and ensure that they are clear-cut and communicable to 222
residents. He stated all the discussions he’s been involved in point that the policy is too vague. 223
He said the City adopts those districts for special reasons for economic development. 224
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Mr. Glidden posed the question about what percent of the tax base will be developed or re-226
developed over the next five to ten years. He stated that such a discussion might bring up some 227
TIF ideas that would help the EDA establish the specific criteria for TIF funding. 228
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Commissioner Thomas stated Mr. Glidden pointed out one of her concerns: that the objectives of 230
TIF districts are too broad. She said she likes the limitations Mounds View has on TIF funding 231
and spending. She said Saint Anthony’s is much broader and she likes Mounds View’s 232
limitations. She stated she would like to maintain Mounds View’s limitations and asked the 233
EDC to review it. 234
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Acting President Stigney stated he believes Mounds View’s policy is too broad and Saint 236
Anthony’s summary does a good job nailing it down. He responded to Mr. Glidden that some 237
problems come in with pre-1990 TIF districts. He stated that once the TIF money is paid on any 238
new projects, the TIF will be automatically closed out even if the district is kept open. He 239
clarified that pre-1990, all TIF districts were kept open to maximize the funding until the end of 240
the district. 241
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Commissioner Flaherty stated that Mounds View is following their policy by implementing such 243
a review and pointed out Item 2 in the TIF policy. He stated the question is not whether Mounds 244
View is following its policy, but whether the policy needs to be tightened up. He stated Mounds 245
View is following its established policies. 246
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Commissioner Thomas brought up that the EDA did not provide Director Ericson with specific 248
direction. Director Ericson asked if the EDA is interested in exploring option 2 (B). Acting 249
President Stigney stated he has always preferred Option B, and stated Staff should explore option 250
B closer. 251
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Commissioner Thomas suggested the policy be run by the EDC for reformatting. Acting 253
President Stigney added that the priorities of the Planning Commission and the summary 254
language from Saint Anthony’s policy should also be considered. 255
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8. REPORTS 257
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A. Update Regarding the Acquisition of 2390 County Road 10 (Verbal Report) 259
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Director Ericson suggested the item be put on Council agenda under reports. 261
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9. NEXT EDA MEETING: Monday, July 24, 2006 at 6:30 p.m. 263
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10. ADJOURNMENT 265
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Acting President Stigney adjourned the meeting at 7:01 p.m. 267
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Respectfully submitted, 270
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Recorded and transcribed by: 273
Lauren McKay 274
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