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CITY OF MOUNDS VIEW
RAMSEY COUNTY, MINNESOTA
Regular Meeting
September 28, 2009
Mounds View City Hall
2401 Highway 10, Mounds View, MN 55112
6:00 P.M.
1. CALL MEETING TO ORDER
2. ROLL CALL: President Flaherty, Vice President Stigney, Commissioner Hull,
Commissioner Mueller, Commissioner Gunn, Executive Director Ericson, Economic
Development Specialist Steinmetz, and Community Development Director Ken Roberts.
NOT PRESENT: None.
3. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
MOTION/SECOND: Gunn/Mueller. To approve the September 28, 2009, Agenda as presented.
Ayes – 5 Nays – 0 Motion carried.
4. PUBLIC INPUT
None.
5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. May 26, 2009, EDA Minutes.
MOTION/SECOND: Mueller/Hull. To approve the May 26, 2009, Minutes as presented.
Ayes – 5 Nays – 0 Motion carried.
B. June 8, 2009, EDA Minutes.
MOTION/SECOND: Mueller/Stigney. To approve the June 8, 2009, Minutes as presented.
Ayes – 5 Nays – 0 Motion carried.
6. CONSENT AGENDA
None.
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7. EDA BUSINESS
A. Authorize Fourth Dimension to Create and Install a New Wall Sign in the
City Council Chambers.
Economic Development Specialist Steinmetz presented two quotes to replace the wall sign in the
Council Chambers. She pointed out that the Fourth Dimension quote includes a backer plate to
cover damage that may be caused by removing the existing wall sign. Spectrum Sign Systems
quote does not include such a backer plate Economic Development Specialist Steinmetz stated
staff recommends awarding the bid to Fourth Dimension in the amount of $1,400 to be paid from
the EDA’s 2009 Other Professional Services budget, leaving a balance of $63,556.
Commissioner Mueller asked about the material of the current sign and the size of the new sign.
Economic Development Specialist Steinmetz advised the new sign would be the same material
(aluminum) and the sizes vary about 1.5 feet. She explained that each vendor would design the
sign as directed by the EDA. Staff said that if the EDA uses a backer plate, the sign company
should design it to look like a picture frame so that it looks professional. Economic
Development Specialist Steinmetz stated staff would suggest the words “City of” be removed
since the logo recently approved by the Council does not include those words.
Commissioner Hull asked what types of expenses are taken from the Other Professional Services
budget. Economic Development Specialist Steinmetz stated expenses would include consultant
fees for EDA projects and she did not anticipate that the EDA would need more funds from this
line item in 2009.
Commissioner Mueller commented on the need for proper spacing to assure “Mounds View”
appears as two words.
Executive Director Ericson stated in 2008 this budget was used for legal fees, finance consultant
fees, special project fees, environmental review fees, audit fees, the housing resource center and
marketing fees. The expenditure under consideration would qualify as a marketing expenditure.
Vice President Stigney asked about the projected need for this fund in 2010. Economic
Development Specialist Steinmetz stated there may be some costs for an appraisal of the EDA-
owned property, but that cost would not consume the entire budget for this line item. Executive
Director Ericson commented on the ability for this budget to serve as a pass-through account for
developer reimbursed expenditures. He noted this budget will have a balance remaining at 2009
year end that balance will carry forward to the 2010 budget.
The EDA discussed sign color and whether a gold color would blend in too much with the
current wall color. Economic Development Specialist Steinmetz informed the EDA of the input
from the City’s cable operator who said that the gold color would stand out sufficiently on
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camera.
Commissioner Mueller stated support for the Spectrum Sign Systems proposal for a 7.5-foot sign
in a dark burnished gold color. Commissioner Gunn concurred.
President Flaherty noted the Other Professional Services budget is a TIF generated fund.
Executive Director Ericson indicated that is correct and use of this fund is specified. He
explained that the City’s recent branding project qualifies for use of these funds as well as
marketing and TIF District improvements. President Flaherty stated if these funds could be used
to write down the general fund balance or to balance the levy, he would have an issue with this
consideration. Executive Director Ericson said that TIF dollars can only be spent only for
specific uses. President Flaherty stated his support for the Spectrum Sign Systems proposal in a
gold color.
Vice President Stigney pointed out that TIF funds can be used for trails and roads and since a
road reconstruction project is being done, indirectly, money saved here can be used there,
resulting in lower taxes to residents. Vice President Stigney asked why quotes were obtained at
this time. Economic Development Specialist Steinmetz stated in May, the EDA directed staff to
start implementing the City’s new logo. Staff started implementing the logo where it would not
cost anything and then staff began obtaining quotes for the most visible signs in the City. She
believes it would be a good thing to implement the new logo based on the Council’s decision to
adopt a new logo back in April. Vice President Stigney noted the April decision by the Council
was to implement the logo where there was no cost; however, this consideration would cost
money to implement.
President Flaherty stated his impression the Council had given direction for staff to start
implementing the logo and, eventually, this matter would have to be considered.
Commissioner Hull asked what happens to this $1,400 if it is not spent on the wall sign.
Executive Director Ericson stated the funds would remain in this budget.
President Flaherty stated his support of the branding process and marketing Mounds View but he
did have an issue with spending tax dollars at this time due to the economy. He stated if this
fund balance is forwarded to 2010 with no additional money budgeted for this fund, it would be
more palatable to consider spending funds on the wall sign. Executive Director Ericson
explained at the end of the year, a transfer will be made from TIF Districts to cover expenditures
(as needed). So, deferring a purchase to 2010 would not change anything since it is a “paper”
budget.
Vice President Stigney stated if approved, he thinks “City of” should be included in the sign, it
should be of the same color as the current sign, and three-dimensional without the backer plate.
However, he finds this to be an unnecessary expense and bad timing.
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MOTION/SECOND: Mueller/Stigney. To table consideration of a new wall sign for the City
Council Chambers to April of 2010.
Commissioner Mueller stated Vice President Stigney raised good points, noting the water tower
needs to be refurbished so the time to start implementing the new logo is with that project.
Commissioner Gunn asked if these dollars can be used to fund painting the new logo on the
water tower when the entire tower is repainted. Executive Director Ericson stated it had not been
planned to use any TIF dollars for that project and the cost to paint the water tower would be the
same if the EDA uses the current logo or the new logo. Economic Development Specialist
Steinmetz added that funding to paint the water tower is in the CIP.
Vice President Stigney stated his support to fund the logo portion of the water tower project
through this budget since it is a form of advertising for Mounds View.
President Flaherty stated the Council Chambers sign is seen by the public during broadcasts of
the Council meetings so displaying the logo in the Council Chambers should move. He stated
he supports this expenditure since it in no way impacts the general fund except indirectly as
mentioned by Vice President Stigney.
Ayes – 2 (Mueller, Stigney) Nays – 3 (Gunn, Hull, Flaherty) Motion failed.
MOTION/SECOND: Flaherty/Gunn. To authorize the use of $1,400 from the 2009 “Other
Professional Services” budget for Spectrum Sign Systems to create and install a new wall sign
for the City Council Chambers with the sign being of the same color as the current sign and
without the backer plate.
AMENDMENT MOTION/SECOND: Stigney/Mueller (for discussion purposes). To amend the
motion to include the words “City of.”
Executive Director Ericson noted the words “City of” were not included in the specification so it
may impact the quote.
Aye – 1 (Stigney) Nays – 4 Amendment motion failed.
Vice President Stigney stated he would vote against the motion on the floor due to previously
stated reasons.
Ayes – 4 Nays – 1 (Stigney) Motion carried.
B. Authorize Fourth Dimension to Update City Hall’s Electronic Billboard
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Panels.
Economic Development Specialist Steinmetz presented staff’s recommendation to approve the
Fourth Dimension quote to update the City’s electronic message sign on County Road. She also
recommended the words “Community Center” not be included on the sign to avoid confusing the
public since the Community Center is not located within City Hall.
Commissioner Gunn stated her support for this expenditure since it is the City’s largest sign and
it serves as advertisement for Mounds View and that it should reflect the City’s new image.
Commissioner Mueller stated she also thinks this sign is important, noting that i many
commuters see it on a daily basis. She stated she supports staff’s recommendation to remove the
words “Community Center,” and the color scheme as proposed.
President Flaherty suggested it would be a more prudent time to make this change when needed
for upkeep of the sign’s appearance.
Vice President Stigney stated he does not like the proposed stark white color and would prefer a
reverse color scheme. He also felt the words “City Hall” should be included when the sign is
updated but believed this is not the time to do so.
Commissioner Hull stated this sign will need to be updated at some time and the same TIF
dollars will be used as the City Council Chambers wall sign so he supports moving forward at
this time.
Vice President Stigney noted the City may want to include a tagline on this sign but a new tagline
has not yet been approved.
MOTION/SECOND: Gunn/Hull. To authorize the use of $1,800 from the 2009 “Other
Professional Services” budget and direct staff to obtain design alternatives from Fourth
Dimension to create, install, and repaint the City Hall electronic message sign panels with the
words “City Hall” included and a reverse color scheme.
AMENDMENT MOTION/SECOND: Flaherty/Stigney. To table updating the City Hall
electronic message sign until it requires normal maintenance.
Ayes – 2 (Stigney, Flaherty) Nays – 3 (Gunn, Hull, Mueller) Amendment motion failed.
Vice President Stigney stated he will vote against the motion on the floor because he believes
this is not a necessary expenditure. President Flaherty stated his concurrence.
Ayes – 3 (Gunn, Hull, Mueller) Nays – 2 (Stigney, Flaherty) Motion carried.
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C. Authorize Traffic Graphix to Create and Install Two New Sign Panels for
the Monument Signs on County Road 10.
Economic Development Specialist Steinmetz presented staff’s recommendation to install two
new sign panels for the County Road 10 entrance monument signs. She presented an artist’s
rendition of the current temporary sign approved for the City’s 50th celebration in addition to the
updated sign renditions. Economic Development Specialist Steinmetz stated the quote from
Traffix Graphix is $640 per sign, or a total of $1,280. Staff is not recommending using the other
vendor because the expected life of their sign is only two years. Economic Development
Specialist Steinmetz recommended the signs be funded from the EDA’s printing budget.
MOTION/SECOND: Stigney/Mueller. To postpone consideration to the next EDA meeting so
there is adequate time for discussion.
President Flaherty stated the current signs are only one year old so he does not support a change
to the signs at this time.
Ayes – 5 Nays – 0 Motion carried.
8. REPORTS
None.
9. NEXT EDA MEETING: Monday, October 12, 2009, at 6:00 p.m.
10. ADJOURNMENT
President Flaherty adjourned the meeting at 7:01 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Recorded and transcribed by:
Carla Wirth
TimeSaver Off Site Secretarial, Inc.