HomeMy WebLinkAbout06-18-2008PROCEEDINGS OF THE MOUNDS VIEW PLANNING COMMISSION
CITY OF MOUNDS VIEW
RAMSEY COUNTY, MINNESOTA
Regular Meeting
June 18, 2008
Mounds View City Hall
2401 Highway 10, Mounds View, MN 55112
Call to Order
The meeting was called to order by Chair Stevenson at 7:04 p.m. June 18, 2008.
2. Roll Call
Members Present: Chair Stevenson; Commissioners, Cramblit, Gunn, Lang, Meehlhause,
Miller, and Walsh-Kaczmarelc
Absent and Excused: None
Also Present: City Administrator Jim Ericson, Community Development Director
Roberts and Planning Associate Heller
Planning Associate Heller introduced Ken Roberts, Community
Development Director. She stated Ken has been working for the past 19
years in Maplewood as the City Planner. She welcomed Ken to Mounds
View.
Index to Minutes
VA2008-003 Consideration of a Variance for reduced driveway
setbacks at 5352-5354 Raymond Avenue (duplex)
AV2008-002 Consideration of an Administrative Variance to
allow for a 2 foot driveway setback
VR2008-004 Consideration of a Variance to allow a 6 foot fence
in a front yard
Other Planning Activity:
Review preliminary plans for a new senior housing development
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3. Approval of Minutes
May 7, 2008.
June 18, 2008
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MOTION/SECOND: Walsh - Kaczmarek/Cramblit. To approve the Minutes of the May 7,
2008 regular Planning Commission meeting as slightly amended.
Ayes — 7
Nays — 0
4. Citizens Requests and Comments on Items Not on the Agenda
None.
5. Planning Cases
Motion carried.
A. VR2008-003 Consideration of a Variance for reduced driveway setbacks At
5352/5354 Raymond Avenue (duplex)
Planning Associate Heller reported the applicant, Bob Yentsch, Kinyon Properties„ has requested a
variance for reduced driveway setbacks at 5352/5354 Raymond Avenue. She explained this is a
side-by-side duplex located on the east side of the city. This side of Raymond Avenue has entirely
identical side-by-side duplexes on 100 -foot wide lots. The applicant would like to build new
attached garages onto the existing duplexes. Currently, the property doesn't have any garage but they
do have a one -car width gravel driveway. The applicant wants to improve the properties by adding
single car garages with paved driveways. The garages are within the setbacks but the applicant
would like to make the paved driveways two -car width. Because they only have 24 feet to the
setback, city code only allows for a one -car width driveway. The applicant has found many of their
tenants have more than one vehicle and are juggling cars around in order to get out of the driveway.
In the past they have had tenants park at the end of the driveway, which causes visibility issues when
backing out. Sometimes there are cars parked on the grass. In order to have the two car width
driveways, the applicant would need a one -foot variance to the setback.
She stated the extraordinary circumstance is that these lots are too narrow for this type of a duplex.
The city has approved variances of this nature before. Most property owners within the city have at
least a one car width driveway but since it is a duplex it makes it more complicated. The applicant
purchased the existing duplexes and all of the duplexes on this side of the street are identical.
Granting the variance request would not give the applicant any special privileges since anyone can
apply for a variance. Granting this variance should not diminish the value of the property.
She indicated public hearing notices were sent to all property owners within 350 feet of the property
and staff did not receive any response. Bob Yentsch, representing the property owner is present for
any questions.
Commissioner Miller asked when these duplexes were built.
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Bob Yentsch, property owner representative stated between 1965 and 1967.
Chair Stevenson opened the public hearing at 7:12 p.m.
Chair Stevenson asked if there is anyway the applicant could go with less than the 20 -foot apron.
The garage is eight feet on the other side of the garage with a 16 foot garage and if a car is
parked next to the garage this would be the minimum.
Planning Associate Heller stated you probably could go with a narrower driveway. The driveway
is set off a bit from the garage. Several years ago there was a variance granted for a one -foot
variance at another one of the applicant's duplexes on the same street.
Mr. Yentsch stated originally there were several properties that widen the end of the driveway,
but they found that when someone parks another vehicle at the end of the driveway it is very
difficult to back out because of visibility. He stated that most of their tenants have two or more
vehicles.
Commissioner Lang asked about staff report letter b and questioned the response having the
word "not" in it.
Planning Associate Heller stated that the word not should be taken out of the answer.
Commissioner Cramblit asked if the applicant planned to enforce individuals renting the
properties not parking on the adjacent property.
Mr. Yentsch stated nothing has been done now or in the past, and he actually had not thought of
this being a problem.
Commissioner Meehthause stated granting this variance he believes is an improvement.
Chair Stevenson closed the public hearing at 7:20 p.m.
Commissioner Walsh-Kaczmarek inquired about granting so many variances to allow an
impervious asphalt surface would cause more run off and less rainwater to enter the aquifer. She
asked if the City could suggest or encourage applicants to install a more pervious surface so
water can get to the aquifer.
Planning Associate Heller stated we could request it, but currently there is no code to make the
applicant comply.
Commissioner Walsh-Kaczmarek stated as a planning commission we are to keep in mind all the
quality of life items in the city as a whole; and one is the amount of water from grass and asphalt
surfaces. Possibly in the future the city could add a stipulation or assistance in doing this type of
surface.
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Jim Ericson, City Administrator, indicated that when there is a hard surface we sometimes have
an issue with drainage run off onto neighbors' property. Possibly the new driveway could be
graded to prevent run off to the neighbor.
Mr. Yentsch stated the last time they installed driveways the applicant was the neighbor to both
sides so the impact to the neighbor was not considered. Since this situation is different they will
consider it this time.
Chair Stevenson suggested amending the resolution to add an additional Now Therefore on the
resolution subject to prevent run off into neighboring properties.
MOTION/SECOND: Commissioner Gunn/Commissioner Meehlhause. To approve Resolution
886-08, a Resolution Recommending Approval of a Variance for one foot driveway setbacks at
5352-5354 Raymond Avenue as amended; MV Planning Case VR2008-003.
Ayes — 7 Nays — 0 Motion carried.
B. AV2008-002 Consideration of an Administrative Variance for a Reduced
Driveway setback at 5053 Brighton Lane.
Planning Associate Heller reported the applicant, John Wiggins, has requested an administrative
variance for a reduced driveway setback at 5053 Brighton Lane. She explained the applicant is
requesting to reconstruct the existing gravel driveway. The applicant would like to pave where the
existing driveway is located. The applicant has some unique situations with one being a tree that is
three feet in front of the garage door and another one at the end of the driveway. He would like to
keep the trees and has been dealing with them for many years. Currently, the driveway comes within
two feet of the property line between the trees, but this is the only place on the driveway that is wide
enough to park two cars side by side.
She stated this is an Administrative Variance because itis an existing nonconforming driveway. The
applicant is not looking to increase the size of the driveway, just reconstruct it with asphalt. She
indicated notification letters were sent to the five adjoining properties who were given ten days to
respond. Staff has not received any responses.
Chair Stevenson asked how many feet are between the two trees.
John Wiggins, property owner, stated the distance is about 22 feet.
Chair Stevenson asked if the plan was to ever go closer than 2 feet from the property line.
Mr. Wiggins stated no and after the drawing was made it was determined that because of the roots of
one the trees the driveway has been moved about two feet closer to the street.
Commissioner Meehlhause asked about the existing driveway that curves out and would the new
driveway be straight down.
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Mr. Wiggins stated the driveway would be exactly the same and in order to by-pass the trees it would
curve towards the house.
MOTION/SECOND: Commissioner Lang/Commissioner Gunn. To approve Resolution 887-
08, a Resolution Recommending Approval of an Administrative Variance to allow a two foot
setback for a driveway at 5053 Brighton Lane; MV Planning Case VR2008-002.
Ayes — 7 Nays — 0 Motion carried.
C. VR2008-004 Consideration of a Variance to Allow a six foot tall fence in the
front yard of 2551 Ridge Lane
Planning Associate Heller reported the applicants, Tom and Laurie Malaske, have requested a
variance to allow a six-foot tall fence in the front yard of 2551 Ridge Lane. She explained the
applicants live on the corner of Ridge Lane and Long Lake Road. Because they live on a corner lot
they have two front yards and are limited to four foot fences in both front yards beyond the house
line. This limits the applicants to what they can do with their backyard. The applicants are
requesting a variance in the front yard for a six-foot fence and the fence is already up and
constructed. The applicant is asking after the fact. The back yard is a few feet lower than the street
level and walking trail on Long Lake Road, which is heavily used. They would like to have the taller
fence for the additional security and privacy.
Planning Associate Heller stated Long Lake Road is a very busy road and many individuals use the
sidewalk. The applicants cannot control that their property is on a corner lot with two front yards and
a sidewalk. There are a handful of properties that are on comers in the city. Most property owners
don't have to deal with two front yards.
Planning Associate Heller indicated granting the variance would not give the applicants special
privileges and most property owners don't have to work with these setback constraints. Similar
variances have been granted for taller fences in front yard areas of comer lots for properties on busier
roads. Site lines have not been impacted by having the taller fence. Staff feels the requested
variance does satisfy the hardship criteria. Public hearing notices were sent out to properties within
350 feet and staff has not heard any response.
Chair Stevenson opened the public hearing at 7:40 p.m.
Tom Malaske, property owner stated the fence is 12 feet from the sidewalk.
Commissioner Miller questioned why the fence was built before applying for the variance.
Chair Stevenson stated the homeowner should check the city codes before building fences. He
stated it is up to the homeowner to know the city code.
Commissioner Meehlhause stated that he was troubled with approving a variance after the fence
has already been constructed.
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Chair Stevenson closed the public hearing at 7:50 p.m.
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Commissioner Gunn asked if he was interested in adding a rain garden in the back Swale.
Mr. Malaske stated the watershed has it sloped down to hold rainwater.
Chair Stevenson asked if the property was a Wetland buffer area.
Planning Associate Heller stated it was.
Commissioner Gunn asked who determined when a house on the comer has two front yards.
Planning Associate Heller stated it is because there is street frontage on two sides that causes it
to have two front yards.
MOTION/SECOND: Commissioner Miller/Commissioner Lang. To approve Resolution 888-
08, a Resolution Recommending Approval of a Variance to allow for a six foot tall fence in the
front yard of 2551 Ridge Lane; MV Planning Case VR2008-004.
Ayes — 6 Abstain —1 Motion carried.
6. Other Planning Activity
A. Review Preliminary Plans for a new senior housing development
Planning Associate Heller indicated the plans on the Commissioners' desk are the most recent.
She stated the plans are very similar with a few changes to the setbacks and the style of the front
of the building. She indicated this would be coming to the planning commission possibly in July
but wanted the Commission to get a head start on it.
Chair Stevenson asked about the parking lot facing Groveland and is there a proposal for an
access.
Planning Associate Heller indicated there was access at the north end of the parking lot, which
would be used mostly for deliveries. There are only eight parking spaces in this area which
limits the amount of traffic onto Groveland. The front parking lot will access the main entrance
and underground parking garage.
Chair Stevenson stated the applicant needs to come prepared with security plans for every door
to prevent the memory care patients from wandering off.
Planning Associate Heller indicated on the first floor of the north wing is where the memory care
is going to be located. This wing will have more security with a designated outdoor gated area
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and dining area for the memory care patients. It is designed to keep the residents only in the
north wing.
Commissioner Cramblit asked about underground parking.
Planning Associate Heller stated that there will be 47 underground parking spaces.
Chair Stevenson asked about the ratio for required parking. The plans states 80 parking spaces.
Planning Associate Heller indicated the parking information on the plans is from the applicant
and doesn't reflect the actual code requirements.
Planning Associate Heller stated the applicant will have to rezone the property to R-4 and also
they will need to obtain a conditional use permit to allow for the senior congregate housing.
Also, there are parking requirements that state there needs to be one stall for every three beds and
one stall for every staff member on the largest shift. With this ratio used for all the units, the
need would be for 43 stalls. If we used regular multi -family parking requirements for the
independent living units, the requirement would be 118 stalls. The facility will provide some
transportation services for their residents.
Commissioner Gunn asked about the per unit density.
Planning Associate Heller stated this will be an issue. Currently in Mounds View, all the senior
housing is independent living facilities which have much bigger units than what is being built for
assisted living/memory care residents. The city code only addresses regular one -bedroom units
for minimum unit size. There are 97 units proposed but many of the units are quite small,
especially since the assisted living and memory care residents do not need full size kitchens. If
these were normal size apartments there would only be 45-50 units in a building the same size.
These are all items that will be talked about when the application comes before the Planning
Commission.
Commissioner Gunn asked about the status of the property.
Planning Associate Heller responded that they have a purchase agreement for the three lots.
Ken Roberts, Community Development Director stated independent living is defined as an
individual living on their own, assisted living is individuals whom may need some assistance
with medication, shopping, and memory care is for individuals with dementia and memory loss
issues. These individuals are under close care and security.
Community Development Director Roberts asked for any initial concerns, comments or feedback
before the applicant submits their final plans.
Chair Stevenson indicated the security on memory care is an issue and a second driveway on
Groveland and the amount of traffic onto Groveland, and density are also issues.
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Commissioner Walsh-Kaczmarek stated where it is possible, development should use less
concrete as this diminishes the watershed. She challenges staff and encourages developers to
consider the new surfaces.
Commissioner Gunn asked about the backyard.
Planning Associates Heller indicated that the backyard would be landscaped.
Commissioner Walsh-Kaczmarek commented on the elevation of the front of the building and its
aesthetically pleasing look.
Next Planning Commission Meeting:
A. July 9, 2008
B. July 23, 2008
8. Adjournment to Agenda Session
There being no further business before the Planning Commission, Chair Stevenson adjourned the
meeting at 8:17 p.m.
(The meeting immediately adjourned to the Agenda Session)
Respectfully submitted,
`Kenneth Roberts
Community Development Director
Transcribed by:
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