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PROCEEDINGS OF THE MOUNDS VIEW PLANNING COMMISSION
CITY OF MOUNDS VIEW
RAMSEY COUNTY, MINNESOTA
Regular Meeting
October 19, 2005
New Brighton City Hall
803 Old Highway 8 NW, New Brighton, MN 55112
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1. Call to Order
The meeting was called to order by Chair Stevenson at 7:00 p.m. October 19, 2005.
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2. Roll Call
Members Present: Commissioners Miller, Zwirn, Hegland, Hull, and Stevenson
Absent and Excused: Commissioner Scotch and Meehlhause
Also Present: Community Development Director Ericson and Planning Associate Heller
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Index to Minutes Page
Planning Case VR2005-013. Consideration of a Variance Request
for a Driveway Extension/Parking Area and Lean-to Garage
Addition within 1 Foot of the Property Line. 02
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3. Approve Minutes
September 21, 2005.
MOTION/SECOND: Miller/Zwirn. To approve the Minutes of the September 21, 2005 regular
Planning Commission meeting as slightly amended.
Ayes –5 Nays – 0 Motion carried.
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4. Citizens Requests and Comments on Items Not on the Agenda
None.
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5. Planning Case VR2005-013. Consideration of a Variance Request for a Driveway
Extension/Parking Area and Lean-to Garage Addition within 1 Foot of the Property
Line.
Planning Associate Heller reviewed the staff report indicating the applicant, Dan Kelner, 8036
Fairchild Avenue, is requesting a variance to permit a driveway/parking area extension along the
side of the garage with a lean-to covering it, built onto the side of his garage within one foot of
the south side property line. Most of the lean-to structure has already been constructed and the
concrete extension is complete – both without a permit. Mr. Kelner, after receiving notification
that the construction was in violation of code requirements, stopped and applied for a variance.
Planning Associate Heller stated for approval of the request there needs to be a demonstrated
hardship or practical difficulty associated with the property. There are no extraordinary
circumstances; the applicant would not be deprived of commonly enjoyed rights; granting the
variance would confer a special privilege; and stormwater runoff would most likely drain onto
the adjoining property.
Planning Associate Heller noted the Planning Commission received one letter from a neighbor
supporting the requested variance. However, due to the above noted, she recommended the
Planning Commission deny the variance as requested.
Chair Stevenson opened the public hearing at 7:07 p.m.
Chair Stevenson asked what the condition of the driveway was prior to purchasing the property.
He also asked how long the concrete had been in before the lean-to construction was started. Mr.
Kelner replied he purchased the property in 2000 and at that time the driveway construction was
already there, but with gravel and weeds. The neighbor had no objection with him replacing the
driveway extension with concrete. He added the concrete was poured about a week before
construction on the lean-to was started.
Chair Stevenson asked if the construction is seven feet wide from the garage. He also asked if
the driveway was raised when it was put in. Mr. Kelner replied there is approximately one foot
to the property line. He added the driveway was raised prior to 2000 and timbers were put in.
Commissioner Miller stated the construction cannot really be seen from the road due to trees.
She asked if the lean-to is being constructed to protect what will be parked there. Mr. Kelner
replied the construction was considered a repair, not an extension of a footprint. He added he is
thinking of putting a boat in the lean-to.
Commissioner Zwirn asked if there are plans to put a roof on it. Mr. Kelner replied yes. He
added the reason he failed to apply for a permit on the lean-to was that in reading through
materials provided by the City he believed a lean-to did not qualify in any of the categories.
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Chair Stevenson stated code clearly indicates any construction cannot be within five feet of the
property line. Mr. Kelner asked if he was referring to the lean-to or driveway. Chair Stevenson
replied both.
Mr. Kelner asked if there is an exception of a one-foot setback if the owner has approval of their
neighbor. Director Ericson replied the code was changed last year to eliminate the one-foot
provision. He added the City has previously granted variances for a driveway that is closer than
one foot to the property line; however, any construction does need to be five feet from the
property line.
Chair Stevenson stated the City is trying to get items such as boats and trailers removed from the
sides of homes if they are not on hard approved surfaces. He added if the applicant came in prior
to concreting the driveway the Commission might have allowed it, but would not have approved
the lean-to because run off from the roof would be going onto the neighbor’s property. Mr.
Kelner replied he was going to put gutters on the lean-to. Chair Stevenson replied this would be
encroaching more into the neighbor’s property. He added he is inclined to allow the concrete but
have the extension of the garage removed.
Commissioner Zwirn stated the issue is that concrete has been placed over a surface that was
porous so now runoff will go into the neighbor’s property. Mr. Kelner replied the concrete was
put in before the heavy rainfall a few weeks ago and the neighbor had no problems.
Commissioner Hegland asked which way does the concrete pitch and is it away from the garage.
Mr. Kelner replied he made a point to slope it out to the front of the house.
Chair Stevenson asked if any timbers were removed from alongside the garage. Mr. Kelner
replied no, the timbers are all where they were when the property was purchased.
Commissioner Hegland asked if the garage is attached to the house and if there are full footings
under the garage. He also asked if there are full footings on the lean-to and, if so, are they below
the frost line. Mr. Kelner replied the garage is attached to the house and has full footings. He
added the lean-to timbers are buried underground but not below the frost line; however, they
have not moved as far as he knows.
Commissioner Miller stated the outline of what was there is not changing; therefore, she could
go along with the concrete but not the lean-to.
Chair Stevenson stated it looks like it would be pretty easy to remove the lean-to because he does
not see the body approving it. He added if the property is sold, there could be an issue with the
property line or what is built on it. Mr. Kelner replied he would be willing to take it down, but
would like to put up fencing around it which he believes could be built close to the property line.
Chair Stevenson replied a fence could be installed right alongside the pad, but within his
property line.
Commissioner Hull stated he is against the lean-to because of the overlap.
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Mr. Kelner asked what if he moves the footings back and concretes them in. Commissioner
Miller replied the construction is still less than five feet from the property line.
Director Ericson stated there is sufficient justification to allow the concrete to remain. He added
Staff could go to the site and see what the actual run off impact would be. The Commission
could make a motion to direct Staff to prepare the resolution but take action tonight. Chair
Stevenson replied a resolution approving the concrete and denying the lean-to could be approved
contingent upon the run off impact analysis.
Mr. Kelner asked for clarification of the decision that the lean-to must be removed, the concrete
driveway can remain in place, and the run off will need to be away from neighbors. He stated he
predicts there will be some water that will run off into the neighbor’s property. He added he
could just put a lip or something on the edge to prevent water run off. Chair Stevenson replied
there is always a minor amount of run off, but measures will be required. Director Ericson
replied there might be no need to do anything if most of the water remains on his property.
Commissioner Miller stated when the neighbor sent the construction approval letter she might
not of been thinking about water run off. She asked if the applicant has the right to appeal the
Commission’s decision to City Council. Director Ericson replied yes. Mr. Kelner replied he is
not going to appeal.
Commissioner Hegland stated the applicant could revise the request just to an improved surface.
Director Ericson replied if Mr. Kelner drafted a short letter stating he would like to remove the
lean-to from the request but keep the surface this would make the request clean.
Mr. Kelner asked when the lean-to structure would have to be removed. Director Ericson replied
within 30 days from resolution approval.
Chair Stevenson closed the public hearing at 7:41 p.m.
MOTION/SECOND: Stevenson/Miller. To approve Resolution 818-05, a Resolution
Recommending Approval of a Variance Request for a Driveway Extension/Parking Area within
1 Foot of the Property Line with the condition of removing the lean-to roof and normal run-off
flow to the neighbors; Planning Case No. VR2005-013.
Ayes – 5 Nays – 0 Motion carried.
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8. Next Planning Commission Meeting: November 16, 2005.
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9. Adjournment to Agenda Session
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There being no further business before the Planning Commission, Chair Stevenson adjourned the
meeting at 7:43 p.m.
(The meeting immediately adjourned to the Agenda Session)
Respectfully submitted,
Jim Ericson
Community Development Director
Transcribed by:
Cheryl Felix
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