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PROCEEDINGS OF THE MOUNDS VIEW PLANNING COMMISSION
CITY OF MOUNDS VIEW
RAMSEY COUNTY, MINNESOTA
Regular Meeting
May 19, 2004
Mounds View City Hall
2401 Highway 10, Mounds View, MN 55112
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1. Call to Order
The meeting was called to order by Chair Stevenson at 7:00 p.m., May 19, 2004.
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2. Roll Call
Members Present: Commissioners Miller, Stevenson, Scotch, Hegland, Zwirn and Johnson
Members Absent: Song (excused)
Also Present: Planner Prososki
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Index to Minutes Page
Resolution 761-04, Discussion Concerning Acquisition of Parcel at 2525 2
County Road 10
Planning Case VR2004-003 4
Location: 2208 Lois Drive
Applicant: Michael Read
Planning Case VR2004-005 and CU2004-001 4
Location: 2208 Lois Drive
Applicant: Michael Read
Planning Case VR2004-002, ZC2004-001 and DE2004-001 6
Location: 2800 County Road 10
Applicant: The Velmeir Companies
Planning Case DE2004-002 and VR2004-004 9
Location: 2151 Mustang Drive
Applicant: Greg Kelley
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3. Approve Minutes
a. April 21, 2004
MOTION/SECOND: Miller/Zwirn. To Approve the Planning Commission Minutes for April
21, 2004 as Presented.
Ayes – 6 Nays – 0 Motion carried.
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4. Citizens Requests and Comments on Items Not on the Agenda
None.
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5. Consider Resolution 761-04, a Resolution Recommending Acquisition of the Parcel
Located at 2525 County Road 10
Economic Development Coordinator Backman explained to the Commission that the property at
2525 County Road 10 is for sale and Council authorized Staff to obtain an appraisal that should
be available by Friday, May 21, 2004.
Economic Development Coordinator Backman outlined re-use scenarios for the property with
the Commission.
Economic Development Coordinator Backman indicated that if the City were to acquire this
parcel the City would control the entire block.
Economic Development Coordinator Backman suggested that acquiring the property when it is
for sale is much less costly than attempting to force a sale on an unwilling property owner and
paying top dollar.
Chair Stevenson asked who would be responsible for cleaning up any contamination.
Economic Development Coordinator Backman indicated that the City is not aware of any
contamination on the site and noted that the MPCA issued a letter of clearance two years ago.
He then said that if the City acquires the property, the City would be responsible for removing
the tanks. He further indicated that he located the tank removal service that did the removal for
the Amoco site and asked for a cost estimate. The cost estimate for removal of two or three
tanks was $9,000 to $11,000 but if the site needs to be assessed or analyzed, the cost goes up.
Economic Coordinator Backman indicated that the sale could be contingent upon determining
whether there are any environmental impacts that could be costly to solve.
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Chair Stevenson said he does not think an adequate study was done on how much contamination
there may be at the site and he would like a contingency placed on the purchase to protect the
City from a lot of costs for environmental issues.
Commissioner Johnson asked whether the Commission felt it would be appropriate to amend the
Comprehensive Plan.
Chair Stevenson said that he would not be in favor of amending the Comprehensive Plan and
would like to see the possible redevelopment scenarios for commercial development.
Commissioner Johnson indicated that he would not be in favor of amending the Comprehensive
Plan. He then commented that the last amendment barely passed and the City lost a large portion
of commercial property. He further commented that rather than amending the Comprehensive
Plan frequently a more comprehensive study should be done to determine whether there needs to
be an overall amendment.
Economic Development Coordinator Backman said he feels that redevelopment would be a good
opportunity from the standpoint of the tax base. He then said that there are areas to the east of
the location that could be added to this parcel to make it larger and more desirable to developers.
The Commission indicated a willingness to move forward with the potential acquisition of the
property but members are not interested in a rezoning of the property.
Economic Development Coordinator Backman commented that it may be possible to get the
property for less than $850,000, as the owners want to get out of the property.
Commissioner Zwirn said he understands a good deal when he sees it and this is a good deal
economically. One of the concerns he has is that this City is constantly talking about budget
constraints and it concerns him that the City seems to be in a purchase mode during these tight
budget times.
Economic Development Coordinator Backman explained that the City would not be using
general fund dollars but TIF dollars that are to be used specifically for economic development
purposes. He then explained that if the City does not spend some significant funds on
redevelopment over the next one to two years it runs the risk of losing TIF dollars. He further
explained that TIF District One generates $1.5 million dollars in increment and the City is not
allowed to sit on the funds and accumulate them, nor can they be used to offset issues with the
general fund budget.
The Commission asked that a contingency to ensure that there is no site contamination be added.
MOTION/SECOND: Scotch/Johnson. To Approve Resolution 761-04, a Resolution
Recommending Approval of the Acquisition of the Parcel Located at 2525 County Road 10.
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Ayes – 5 Nays – 1(Zwirn) Motion carried.
Commissioner Zwirn indicated that he had voted against the Resolution because he feels it is not
consistent with where he thinks the budgetary concerns are.
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6. Planning Case VR2004-003
Planner Prososki reminded the Commission that Staff had been directed at the last meeting to
draft a Resolution of denial.
MOTION/SECOND: Stevenson/Miller. To Approve Resolution 756-04, a Resolution Denying
a Variance Request for a Six-Foot Tall Fence in the Front Yard of 2208 Lois Drive.
Ayes – 6 Nays – 0 Motion carried
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7. Planning Case VR2004 and CU2004-001
Planner Prososki indicated that the applicant has requested approval of a variance to construct a
wider than allowed garage as well as a CUP for an oversized garage. The applicant is proposing
a garage that is 1,152 square feet but the code limits the width of the garage under the CUP to 35
feet and this would be 48 feet wide.
Commissioner Miller asked how large the garage could be if it met the width requirements.
Planner Prososki explained that the total square footage of all accessory structures allowed
would be 1800 square feet, so the requested square footage is within the limits but there is an
issue with the width.
Chair Stevenson indicated that he has reviewed the request and does not feel that the situation
meets the hardship requirements. He then said that the Commission has been consistent with not
allowing garages to exceed the requirements of the Code.
Commissioner Hegland asked the applicant why he has taken this approach rather than designing
an addition that would meet the City’s Code requirement.
Mike Read of 2208 Lois Drive addressed the Commission and indicated that he has been told
that he has too many vehicles sitting on the grass and he needs the additional storage for his
small business that he runs out of the house. He then said that he would prefer to add onto the
existing garage as it would be cleaner and easier to do so.
Commissioner Hegland indicated he is not against allowing the additional storage space but the
footprint is outside the requirements of the Code. He then asked if the applicant has looked at
other footprint designs.
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Mr. Read indicated that other designs would not be as convenient and would not look as nice and
clean. He then said that he could have a larger garage behind the house but then he would have
extra cement going past the garage.
Chair Stevenson asked whether a variance for driveway width would be required.
Planner Prososki indicated that the width is limited to either 35 feet or the width of the garage
plus 12 feet so the proposed driveway would be okay.
Commissioner Zwirn asked whether the applicant would consider using the maximum width and
extending the garage back further, so that the garage is deeper, to gain the same amount of space.
Mr. Read indicated that a design like that would require him to jockey vehicles around for
parking and the roof line would have valleys in the roof rather than be straight.
Commissioner Miller indicated that the Commission is charged with reviewing the situation and
determining whether the hardship criteria are met and she does not see where the hardship
requirements are met for this situation.
Commissioner Johnson commented that the City has made several changes to the Code to allow
more square footage for garages and he is not in favor of allowing an exception to the Code.
Commissioner Zwirn commented that the applicant owns property and pays taxes and he wants
to clean up the property. He then said that the applicant is trying to do the proper thing by
adding storage to comply and he has a large enough lot to do what has been requested without
infringing on the property lines.
Commissioner Zwirn indicated that he does not feel that what is being requested is out of line.
Commissioner Miller commented that the hardship requirement has not been met.
Commissioner Zwirn asked whether the applicant would consider turning the garage the other
way and come out toward the front of the property.
Mr. Read indicated he had not considered that as he was hoping the City would allow him to go
out the side to match the roofline of the existing garage. He then said that he is not sure whether
it would be as convenient but he could look into it.
Commissioner Hegland asked whether the applicant was willing to look at another option for the
footprint. He then said that he would appreciate if the applicant would try to do that because he
would like to see him get his additional storage space but the Commission is in a position where
they cannot grant a variance due to the hardship requirements.
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Mr. Read said he would look at it and the other option would be to add a building in the
backyard. He then said he is not sure whether it would be possible to go toward the street.
Planner Prososki indicated she would have to check the prevailing setback on that street before
she would know whether or not the garage can move forward.
There were no residents present to speak at the public hearing.
MOTION/SECOND: Miller/Johnson. To Approve Resolution 758-04 a Resolution Denying a
Variance for a 48-Foot Wide Garage to Allow for a Garage Addition at 2208 Lois Drive.
Commissioner Scotch asked if it would be possible to do a breezeway between the garage and
the new addition.
Commissioner Johnson indicated that the Fire Code would govern that situation and he believes
it needs to be a seven (7) foot separation and it cannot be connected by a breezeway. He then
said that he believes that the Code would not allow the garage to be forward of the house.
Ayes – 5 Nays – 1(Zwirn) Motion carried.
MOTION/SECOND: Stevenson/Miller. To Approve Resolution 757-04, a Resolution
Recommending Denial of a Conditional Use Permit to Allow for a 1,152 Square Foot Garage at
2208 Lois Drive.
Ayes – 5 Nays – 1(Zwirn) Motion carried.
The Commission informed the applicant that he had the right to appeal the decision to the City
Council.
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8. Planning Case MA2004-002, ZC2004-001 and DE2004-001
Planner Prososki reviewed the major subdivision, rezoning and development review request of
the Velmeir Companies to construct a CVS Pharmacy.
Planner Prososki explained that the property was originally platted with five lots but that has
been changed to three lots.
Planner Prososki indicated that Staff is recommending that the park dedication fee be based on
the developed area including the parking lot and the building. She then said that the City
Council will make the determination on the park dedication fee but Staff recommends a fee of
$57,812.69.
Planner Prososki reviewed the requirements and noted that a variance was granted for the
parking setback on the site previously. She also indicated that the site would require 106 stalls
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but the Code has a provision for proof of parking. They show 93 stalls & 16 proof of parking
stalls, for a total of 109 stalls.
Planner Prososki explained that the drainage has been changed slightly and could change again
dependent upon Rice Creek Watershed District.
Planner Prososki explained that there would be a very large pond servicing the CVS site and it
will also take drainage from the PAK building. She then explained that the City’s engineers
from SEH are concerned that there is no outlet for this pond.
Jim LaValle explained that they were before Rice Creek Watershed District in April and there
was a request for further information that has since been provided and they are to be on the
upcoming agenda for consideration. He then said that the outlet from the pond was eliminated
on the plan because the pond was oversized to accommodate double 100 year storms. He also
explained that the elevation at the outlet was essentially flat.
Planner Prososki indicated there is a proposed trail shown 10 feet wide that runs parallel to
Highway 10 and then runs parallel to Silver Lake Road. She then indicated that Staff is working
on getting an actual enclosure rather than just the bench at the bus stop in that location.
Planner Prososki explained that Staff reviewed the Comprehensive Plan and, even though the
property is not being rezoned to PUD, it will bring commercial development to this residential
area and Staff feels that it would not be detrimental to the surrounding sites as it was a
commercial site before and this would be a similar use.
Planner Prososki indicated that Staff did receive three comments from the public, two of which
were explained at the last meeting, and the third comment came in since that meeting. The
person was concerned that the development is not consistent with the residential area and
expressed a concern with glaring lights from a 24-hour retail operation. Planner Prososki then
said that the lighting would meet the Code requirements and the area is buffered and that was
explained to the person.
Planner Prososki indicated that the developer has agreed to the one way drive aisle with the fire
lane and the fencing for the pond as requested. She then indicated that Staff recommends
approval as the preliminary plat does satisfy the lot requirements and the buildings satisfy the
zoning requirements.
Commissioner Miller asked what the height of the fence would be to ensure it will keep children
out.
Mr. LaValle indicated that they would be willing to work with the City on the height of the
fence. Tom Loucks said it is typical within the industry to use a five-foot fence that is non-
climbable.
Planner Prososki suggested using the swimming pool requirement of five feet.
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Commissioner Zwirn indicated he had brought up at the last meeting the potential issue of the
lighting impacting the rental units behind the property. He then said that he had understood that
the developer would provide lighting that would be shaded to eliminate cascading light onto
adjoining properties.
Planner Prososki indicated that the developer had agreed to shield the lighting but, she believed
there was consensus that it would be beneficial to light the garage area.
Commissioner Zwirn said he does think the garages should be lit from the back but he wants to
protect the people in the apartment complex from too much lighting.
Mr. LaValle indicated that it would be possible to redirect the light to shine back toward the site
to ensure there would not be an impact to the rental units.
Planner Prososki indicated that the apartments are more than 175 feet from the CVS site so there
should not be an issue. She then said that Staff could add a provision to allow the lighting to be
changed in the future if complaints are received. She further noted that the foot candle readings
are slightly over Code requirements at the property line in the back but the rental units are 175
feet from the site.
The Commission asked that a lighting provision be added to the Resolution.
Commissioner Miller asked for clarification on the rezoning.
Planner Prososki explained that portions of the CVS parcel need to be rezoned and pointed those
out on the map. She then indicated that she would further clarify the rezoning by adding that,
“portions of Lot 2 and Lot 1” are being rezoned.
Tom Loucks told the Commission he wanted to go on record as registering a concern in regard to
the park dedication fees. He then referred to Page 11 of the staff report where it indicates the
park dedication fee should be 10% of the assessed value. He further commented that they do not
believe that this request constitutes a major subdivision in terms of the Ordinance because it is
really a lot line rearrangement and that difference has consequences in terms of the park
dedication fees.
Mr. Loucks indicated that they are not creating a development site but are creating an unusually
shaped Lot 2 to accommodate the requirements of the City and the Watershed District for
ponding requirements and they will not be able to use the property for anything other than a
ponding area. He then said that they do not expect that the Commission will change the wording
of the Resolution but wanted to go on record to respectfully object to the park dedication fee.
Mr. Loucks indicated that they mean no disrespect to the Commission or Staff and thanked the
City for the opportunity to go before Council to discuss the park dedication fee.
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Chair Stevenson suggested pointing out that a trailway is being constructed on two sides of the
property and to ask Council to consider the construction of that trailway in lieu of park
dedication fees.
MOTION/SECOND: Johnson/Scotch. To Approve Resolution 759-04, a Resolution
Recommending Approval of the Preliminary Plat for Velmeir CVS Addition, Recommending
Approval of a Development Review for a Retail Building and Recommending Approval of a
Rezoning From R-3, Medium Density Residential and R-4 High Density Residential to B-3
Highway Business for the Lots Addressed 2828 County Highway 10 and 7750 Silver Lake Road.
Ayes – 6 Nays – 0 Motion carried
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9. Planning Case DE2004-002 and VR2004-004
Planner Prososki explained that the applicant has requested approval of a variance to allow a
reduced front yard setback, a reduced front parking setback and an additional curb cut for an
addition to the Bioclean building located at 2151 Mustang Drive, as well as approval of
development review.
Planner Prososki indicated that the Code requires a 40 foot front building setback on property
zoned industrial and the current building is 38 feet from the front property line and the applicant
would like to continue the building along that same property line and not any further forward.
She then explained that the lot is long and narrow and there was a variance granted when the
building was constructed due to the long narrow lot.
Planner Prososki indicated that this lot is a corner lot, so the Code requires a 40 foot front
parking setback for industrial property which means there needs to be 40 feet from Mustang
Drive and Old Highway 8 and the current parking exists seven (7) feet from the front property
line on the Old Highway 8 side.
Planner Prososki indicated that the City’s Code allows for one curb cut for every 125 feet of
frontage and this site is 11 feet short of the requirement for three (3) curb cuts. She then
explained that the applicant has proposed to leave the middle curb cut as it is and enlarge the one
to the east and add an additional curb cut that would be 32 feet wide.
Planner Prososki indicated that Staff recommends approval for the third curb cut, as truck traffic
would have difficulty navigating the site without it.
Planner Prososki told the Commission that the applicant had originally been willing to agree to
forego a curb cut on Old Highway 8 in exchange for the third cub cut but he has now asked that
the provision be removed from the Resolution.
Planner Prososki indicated that Staff does feel that a hardship has been shown due to the long
and narrow lot and that it would be difficult to maneuver around the site without the third curb
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cut. She then explained that the setbacks meet the requirements with the exception of the
variance items.
Planner Prososki indicated the parking on the site is based on the number of employees and the
biggest shift has 14 employees and 20 parking stalls are shown. She then said that there is
currently a drainage pond on site and this addition does not require Rice Creek Watershed
District approval, but the public works staff is reviewing the drainage to ensure that the ponding
is adequate.
Planner Prososki indicated the addition would match the existing structure and noted there were
no public comments received on this matter.
Planner Prososki explained that there was a variance granted in 1981 and a variance in 1995 for
the rear setback and the City Attorney has determined the applicant did not need to request
another rear setback variance as it applies to the total setback.
Chair Stevenson asked if there is a trailway on Old Highway 8.
Chair Stevenson asked how close the trail is to the proposed parking.
Mr. Kelley indicated the trail is about 20 feet from the parking and, with the change, would be at
least 15 feet from the trail.
There were no residents present to speak at the public hearing.
MOTION/SECOND: Scotch/Miller. To Approve Resolution 760-04, a Resolution Approving a
Variance from the Minimum Front Building and Parking Setbacks and a Variance for an
Additional Curb Cut and Recommending Approval of Development Review for an Addition at
2151 Mustang Drive.
Commissioner Zwirn noted that the Resolution includes the wording concerning the curb cut on
Old Highway 8.
Planner Prososki suggested amending the language to state that only three curb cuts would be
allowed on the site in case at some point in the future the business would desire a curb cut on Old
Highway 8.
Mr. Kelley agreed with the suggestion and said he does not see any reason to have the curb cut
on Old Highway 8 at this time but would like to have the option available in the future.
The Commission agreed to the change.
Planner Prososki suggested a second condition be added that the proposed addition shall be
completed within one year or the variance will become null and void.
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The Commission requested that the language read that the approval is null and void one year
after Council approval.
Ayes – 6 Nays – 0 Motion carried.
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10. Next Planning Commission Meeting: June 2, 2004
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11. Adjournment to Agenda Session
There being no further business before the Planning Commission, Chair Stevenson adjourned the
meeting at 8:27 p.m.
(The meeting immediately adjourned to the Agenda Session)
Respectfully submitted,
Jim Ericson
Community Development Director
Transcribed by:
Joan Lenzmeier
TimeSaver Off Site Secretarial, Inc.