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PROCEEDINGS OF THE MOUNDS VIEW PLANNING COMMISSION
CITY OF MOUNDS VIEW
RAMSEY COUNTY, MINNESOTA
Regular Meeting
July 21, 2004
Mounds View City Hall
2401 Highway 10, Mounds View, MN 55112
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1. Call to Order
The meeting was called to order by Chair Stevenson at 7:00 p.m., July 21, 2004.
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2. Roll Call
Members Present: Commissioners Miller, Scotch, Stevenson, Song, Hegland, and Zwirn
Members Absent: None.
Also Present: Planner Prososki
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Index to Minutes Page
Planning Case CU2004-003 2
Applicant: Bauer Welding
Location: 2159 Mustang Road
Consider an Amendment to the Zoning Code
Regarding Driveway Setback Requirements 4
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3. Approve Minutes
a. June 16, 2004
MOTION/SECOND: Miller/Scotch. To Approve the Planning Commission Minutes for June
16, 2004 as previously amended.
Ayes – 6 Nays – 0 Motion carried.
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4. Citizens Requests and Comments on Items Not on the Agenda
Commissioner Zwirn read the following prepared statement: “Fellow Commissioners, Mounds
View taxpayers. For three years I have sat in this position as Planning Commissioner during that
time serving two Mayoral administrations and in my opinion of questionable character, whether
its poor business practices, nepotism or threats of law suits to dip in the Cities coffers, I feel as a
taxpayer and Commissioner I’ve had enough.
The problems the City of Mounds View has had to endure these past few years and the monies
this City has had to spend are the precursors to voter apathy.
This area of government is the area that teachers in our schools draw lessons from to teach your
children, so ask yourself if these are the lessons that you want your children being taught.
I encourage the citizens of Mounds View, and I apologize that I have to request this of you, to
take time from your busy family life, to become aware, critical and informed about candidates in
our upcoming elections.
Mounds View does not need and can no longer afford the pompous arrogance that has been
associated with the Mayor’s office.
Ladies and Gentlemen, in our everyday lives we are held accountable for decisions and it is my
hope that you the citizens of this community will start demanding more responsible, accountable
and ethical representation from your elected officials.
After all, these elected officials are more than willing to cash their checks from the City each
month.
With that being said, I hereby request that Mr. Linke show respect for the office of Mayor and
resign effective immediately and appoint an interim Mayor to carry out the important duties of
that office.
Mounds View deserves better. Thank you.”
Chair Stevenson added that those comments were one individual’s opinion and not reflective of
the Commission as a whole.
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5. Planning Case CU2004-003 – Public Hearing and Discussion Regarding a Conditional Use
Permit Request for Outdoor Storage at 2159 Mustang Road
Planner Prososki presented the applicant’s request and indicated that Douglas Bauer is requesting
approval of a conditional use permit to allow for outdoor storage at Bauer Welding and Metal
Fabricators, which is located at 2159 Mustang Drive and is zoned Industrial. The applicant is
proposing to construct a paved storage area with dimensions of 50 feet by 80 feet. The area
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would be used to store pallets, empty reusable containers and finished products for shipping.
The applicant estimates the storage area would only be necessary for 2-3 years, until a permanent
addition can be added to the building.
Planner Prososki explained that Bauer Welding and Fabrication needs outdoor storage, which the
Zoning Code conditionally allows in an Industrial district. Based on this, Staff feels that the
proposal adequately satisfies the conditional use criteria and would not adversely affect the
surrounding area.
Commissioner Miller asked where the building expansion was going to be located.
Doug Bauer, President, replied the expansion would be where the tar pad and temporary
driveway were located.
Commissioner Scotch asked what was going to be stored in the expansion. Mr. Bauer stated
wood pallets and stackable plastic containers would be stored there because they did not have
room inside their building. He stated they did not want to increase the size of the building at this
time until they knew their business growth was permanent.
Chair Stevenson asked if they needed a time stipulation for outdoor storage. Planner Prososki
stated a time period was not required by Code, but if the Commission wanted a time period, that
could be added.
Chair Stevenson asked if staff would see this request again in three years. Planner Prososki
replied in three years the gravel driveway would need to be replaced with an asphalt driveway as
part of the conditions.
Commissioner Hegland asked if they pulled a permit to install an asphalt driveway, was it
required that the CUP be revised. Planner Prososki replied it would not be required that the CUP
be revised to install the asphalt driveway.
Commissioner Hegland asked how long would they need outdoor storage. Mr. Bauer replied he
did not know at this time. It would depend on his business success.
Commissioner Scotch stated they should look at this before three years.
Commissioner Miller noted this was not required by the Code.
Mr. Bauer pointed out this was a secluded area and would not easily be seen.
Commissioner Zwirn asked if Mr. Bauer understood that if this was approved, he would need to
come back to the Commission for any further additions to his building and he could be denied
future expansion. Mr. Bauer replied he understood this, but if the City did not allow him to
expand if necessary in the future, he would need to leave the City.
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Commissioner Scotch expressed concern about what was being stored there. Mr. Bauer stated in
their business, they were not allowed to keep finished goods or raw materials outside because
they would rust and would be unable to sell them.
Commissioner Zwirn asked if there would be any empty containers that held hazardous material
outside. Mr. Bauer replied they would not do that.
Chair Stevenson stated even though Mr. Bauer indicated that nothing other than containers were
going to be stored there, he asked what kind of Codes were they facing with outdoor storage.
Planner Prososki replied what they were proposing to store outside was allowed, but if the
Commission wanted to specify exactly what can be stored outdoors, they could do that.
Commissioner Scotch replied she would like to see that type of a condition. Planner Prososki
replied she would add language to limit the storage to wooden pallets and plastic storage
containers.
Commissioner Miller asked how often CUPs are reviewed. Planner Prososki replied they are not
reviewed again unless there was a time period set forth in the original CUP.
Chair Stevenson stated as long as the proper wording was added to the conditions, he believed
they could approve this tonight.
Commissioner Miller requested the language limiting the outdoor storage to pallets and empty
containers be added to the beginning of condition 2.
MOTION/SECOND: Hegland/Zwirn. To Approve Resolution 767-04, a Resolution
Recommending Approval of a Conditional Use Permit to Allow for Outdoor Storage at 2159
Mustang Drive; Planning Case No. CU2004-003.
Ayes – 6 Nays – 0 Motion carried.
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6. Consider an Amendment to the Zoning Code Regarding Driveway Setback
Requirements
Planner Prososki explained that driveways in residential zoning districts are permitted at five-
foot setbacks to the lot lines. The City Code provides an exception for a one-foot setback as
long as the adjoining property owner consents by signing a statement to that effect. She advised
that the City Council reviewed this section of Code at their June 7, 2004 work session meeting
and agreed that a code amendment should be processed.
Planner Prososki noted the Code references dealing with driveway setbacks and explained if the
one-foot provision is eliminated, all that need be done is to strike the language highlighted. If the
Commission agrees with the City Council that an administrative variance process is appropriate,
additional language would need to be added to Chapter 1125.
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Commissioner Hegland asked how would this affect existing properties. Planner Prososki
replied that the driveways that already exist closer than 5 feet to the property line would be
considered legal, non-conforming and that Staff was unsure if the driveways would be subject to
the same rules that apply to all legal, nonconforming situations, being that the neighbors had
granted permission. She said that they were addressing the issue with the City Attorney as to
how they should handle this legally.
Commissioner Miller stated this started because residents had to park on improved surfaces so
they needed more space and this was one way to get more space.
Chair Stevenson noted some of this came about because residents wanted to park along side of
their garage and needed to get the neighbor’s permission. He noted he did not agree with the
neighbor approval part. He stated he believed they should remove the neighbor approval section.
Commissioner Hegland asked how many driveways were non-conforming. Planner Prososki
replied there were numerous driveways.
Chair Stevenson fully supported taking out the sentence that allows neighbors to grant
permission for a reduced driveway setback. The remainder of the Commission agreed to that
deletion.
Chair Stevenson asked how they should handle the five-foot setback issue. He asked if they
should they deal with variance requests administratively or should it come before the
Commission.
Commissioner Hegland stated he had a concern with someone replacing their driveway being
required to change their driveway for nonconformance without having the option of coming
before the Commission. He stated some of the rules needed to be flexible because this was a
community that was going to be doing redevelopment and not new development. He indicated if
they were just replacing the driveway, they might want to consider an option that they were
allowed to do that without getting permission.
Planner Prososki noted the City Attorney was looking at this issue. She stated right now if
something was torn down, they were required to comply with the Code, but in this case there is
the issue that the resident had originally been granted permission.
Chair Stevenson stated they had seen a lot of situations like this and asked for more ideas and
thoughts regarding this from staff and the City Attorney for the next meeting. He noted some of
this could be dealt with administratively.
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7. Next Planning Commission Meeting: August 4, 2004
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8. Adjournment to Agenda Session
There being no further business before the Planning Commission, Chair Stevenson adjourned the
meeting at 7:35 p.m.
(The meeting immediately adjourned to the Agenda Session)
Respectfully submitted,
Jim Ericson
Community Development Director
Transcribed by:
Kathy Altman
TimeSaver Off Site Secretarial, Inc