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PROCEEDINGS OF THE MOUNDS VIEW PLANNING COMMISSION
CITY OF MOUNDS VIEW
RAMSEY COUNTY, MINNESOTA
Regular Meeting
January 22, 2003
Mounds View City Hall
2401 Highway 10, Mounds View, MN 55112
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1. Call to Order
The meeting was called to order by Chair Stevenson at 7:02 p.m., January 22, 2003.
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2. Roll Call
Members Present: Commissioners Stevenson, Scotch, Zwirn, Miller, Johnson and Song.
Members Absent: Hegland (excused)
Also Present: Community Development Director Ericson
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Index to Minutes Page
Discussion of Parking on Greenfield Avenue 2
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3. Approve Minutes
a. December 18, 2002
MOTION/SECOND: Approval was moved and seconded. To Approve the Minutes of the
Planning Commission for December 18, 2002 as Presented.
Ayes – 6 Nays – 0 Motion carried.
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4. Citizens Requests and Comments on Items Not on the Agenda
None.
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5. Continued Discussion on Restricting Parking along Greenfield Avenue
Community Development Director Ericson provided an update on the parking situation along
Greenfield Avenue indicating that, after the matter was brought to the attention of the
Commission, Officer Broos was asked to observe the area. He then explained that Officer Brose
had observed the area and recommended posting a sign no parking here to corner just north of
the access point for the multifamily housing. He also indicated that it would be possible to
recommend posting the entire east side of Greenfield as no parking but that may be excessive.
Director Ericson indicated that at the last meeting the property owner had conveyed to him a
willingness to expand the parking lot. He then indicated there is 28 feet of green space between
the parking lot and Greenfield and adding one parking stall on either side would work but adding
a second stall on either side would encroach into the right-of-way by 7 feet. He further
commented that it would be an option but the property owner would need to apply for a variance
to amend the previously granted variance to a zero foot setback as well as execute a limited use
agreement to control use of the right-of-way.
Director Ericson indicated the limited use agreement would protect the City from bearing the
cost of removing and replacing the driveway should it become necessary to access utilities that
may be in that right-of-way. He also indicated that one benefit of the variance amendment is that
the Commission could require a development agreement that would give the City control of the
site, which it currently does not have. He then said there have been issues at the site that could
have been addressed by a development agreement had one been required and completed for this
development.
Director Ericson indicated that one of the drawbacks of the variance is that in order to grant a
variance the hardship requirements would need to be met and Staff does not feel that the
situation can meet the criteria to prove a hardship. He also indicated that there would be an
impact to the green space if the parking were expanded that would detract from the residential
appearance that is there now.
Director Ericson indicated the City has not received an application for a variance amendment but
the property owner has expressed a willingness to do so. He then indicated he had asked the
public works department to comment on any potential issues with using the right-of-way but
public works has declined to comment pending receipt of an application. He further commented
that there is a water main in the general area that would need to be located.
Director Ericson indicated a resolution for consideration had been drafted restricting parking
from the corner to just north of the northern most access to Greenfield Estates.
Commissioner Johnson asked if adding the two stalls would push the parking into the right-of-
way.
Director Ericson indicated the variance previously granted allows them a 10 foot setback and
adding the two stalls would make it a two-foot setback.
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Commissioner Miller asked if the original variance was for the number of stalls.
Director Ericson indicated the variance was for the setback.
Commissioner Miller asked why there was not a development agreement originally.
Director Ericson indicated he was not sure why a development agreement was not required but
said, in retrospect, one should have been done but they typically were not done for smaller
developments and this development was perceived as a small development. He then indicated
that all commercial developments now require a development agreement.
Commissioner Zwirn asked why the address for the building is 2402 County Road I when it
faces Greenfield.
Director Ericson indicated the property owner requested the County Road I address and is
allowed to do so as the property is on the corner of Greenfield and County Road I.
Chair Stevenson said he feels there should be a number of feet listed in the resolution to make it
clear for Council that the Commission was considering 75 feet or just north of the apartments.
Director Ericson indicated that Staff would need to establish a reference point for where the 75
feet begins.
Commissioner Miller indicated she thought the Officer referenced 75 feet back from County
Road I.
Director Ericson indicated that parking is not allowed 30 feet back from the intersection already.
Commissioner Scotch expressed concern that posting no parking to 75 feet would just push the
parking farther down the block.
Commissioner Johnson indicated he would rather see the parking stalls added and approval of a
two-foot variance before restricting parking but, if the issue is not resolved, he is not against
posting the whole east side of Greenfield no parking.
Commissioner Miller said she did not think it would be fair to the residents to mark the whole
street no parking.
Director Ericson clarified that the City does not have the power to force the property owner to
apply for the variance and expand the parking lot. He then said that posting the street no parking
would force the property owner to work to resolve the parking issue by applying for the variance
to expand the parking lot.
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Commissioner Scotch asked how many parking stalls are required by the City’s Code for this
size building.
Director Ericson indicated that a building of this type on any other site would require 20 spaces
but 15 spaces was approved for this location.
Commissioner Scotch commented that there is plenty of parking two blocks away at Mounds
View Square.
Director Ericson indicated that posting the street no parking requires a public hearing before
Council and residents can provide comment on the proposed parking restrictions.
Commissioner Miller indicated she has seen parking in the area where parking is not allowed.
Director Ericson indicated that enforcement of the no parking restriction would become a police
issue.
Commissioner Zwirn indicated he brought this issue to the Commission because there is a
substantial problem. He then said that, in his estimation, there are 6 to 8 cars parking on the
street three to four days per week and this Resolution does not go far enough to solve the
problem as the driveways are south of where the parking restriction stops so there would still be
an issue coming and going from both his driveway and his neighbor’s driveway.
Commissioner Zwirn indicated he has discussed the matter with his neighbors and they agree
that restricting parking to the middle of the block would move the issue to an area where there
are no driveways affected. He then said he has been trying to deal with this issue with a property
owner who is not willing to address the problems.
Commissioner Zwirn commented that all week there were two garbage cans in the handicapped
parking stall with overflowing garbage. He then said that the only way to resolve this is to put
no parking on the east side of Greenfield to the middle of the block where neighbors feel
comfortable with it and force the property owner to bring a variance request to the Commission
to resolve his parking problem.
Commissioner Zwirn commented that there are issues with coming and going from this property
due to having a business located in a residential area. He then said that Mr. Farrell is a
businessman and he should have come to the Commission to resolve the parking issue. He
further commented that the issue has subsided some since this has been brought to the attention
of the property owner but it is not resolved and the only way to deal with it is to adopt a
resolution for no parking on the east side of Greenfield a sufficient distance to make it safe for
the residents and require Mr. Farrell to come to the Commission with a variance request. He also
said that adding four stalls on the property would look terrible and he would be against that but
would consider adding two stalls.
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Commissioner Zwirn indicated that residents fought to have the west side of Greenfield posted
no parking to deal with overflow parking issues from the apartments. He then said that there is a
bus stop across from his driveway where children board the bus and the area is too congested and
not safe.
Director Ericson offered to have Staff measure the distance of the proposal by Commissioner
Zwirn to locate the no parking sign in the middle of the block but estimated it to be
approximately 300 feet from the corner.
Chair Stevenson indicated he would prefer to table the resolution to allow Staff more time to
research the distances for the Commission to review.
Director Ericson indicated he would have the temporary inspector go out and look at the area and
mark the County half section map that would be reproduced for the next meeting. He also
indicated he would mark on the map the location of the driveways for consideration.
Chair Stevenson indicated he would not be at the next meeting due to a vacation.
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6. Next Planning Commission Meeting: February 5, 2003
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8. Adjournment to Agenda Session
There being no further business before the Planning Commission, Chair Stevenson adjourned the
meeting at 7:37 p.m.
(The meeting immediately adjourned to the Agenda Session)
Respectfully submitted,
Jim Ericson
Community Development Director
Transcribed by:
Joan Lenzmeier
TimeSaver Off Site Secretarial, Inc.