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PROCEEDINGS OF THE MOUNDS VIEW PLANNING COMMISSION
CITY OF MOUNDS VIEW
RAMSEY COUNTY, MINNESOTA
Regular Meeting
February 6, 2002
Mounds View City Hall
2401 Highway 10, Mounds View, MN 55112
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1. Call to Order
The meeting was called to order by Chair Stevenson at 7:00 p.m., February 6, 2002.
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2. Introduction and Oath of Office for Liz Song, New Planning Commissioner
Community Development Director Ericson introduced Liz Song to the Commission and
administered the Oath of Office to her.
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3. Roll Call
Members Present: Commissioners, Stevenson, Johnson, Zwirn, Miller, Hegland, Scotch, and
Song.
Members Excused: None.
Also Present: Community Development Director Ericson and Planner Atkinson.
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Index to Minutes Page
Planning Case No. MA01-001 2
Location: Longview Estates
Applicant: Martin Harstad
Planning Case No. VR01-012 4
Location: 2149 Program Avenue
Applicant: William Bell, Mounds View Hotels, LLC
Review Planning Commission Bylaws 4
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4. Citizens Requests and Comments on Items Not on the Agenda
There were no resident comments concerning items not on the agenda.
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5. Planning Case No. MA01-001
Community Development Director Ericson indicated that the original preliminary plat for this
matter contemplated an 11 lot subdivision that would have needed a variance to allow for lot
widths of less than 125 feet. He indicated that Staff reviewed the revised plat and it contains 26
lots, 13 fronting on Longview Drive and 13 fronting on Silver Lake Road. He indicated that
Staff reviewed the plat and has determined that it does not comply with the City’s subdivision
requirements that call for 125-foot lot widths and 20,000 square foot lots. He further indicated
that only one lot meets the 20,000 square foot requirement and none of the lots meet the 125-foot
width requirement so Staff is recommending denial of the preliminary plat.
Chair Stevenson indicated that this matter was not noticed as a public hearing.
Director Ericson indicated that it was not a public hearing but noted Staff did notice residents.
Chair Stevenson asked Mr. Harstad to give a brief explanation of the change to the preliminary
plat.
Mr. Harstad indicated he had requested a variance to be allowed to build his 11 lot subdivision
and that was turned down. He commented that he thought he had provided a nice plan for the
City that had Rice Creek Watershed approval. He indicated that his appeal to Council was
denied and it left him in a rather awkward position and he chose to lay out a plat with 26 lots on
it acting as if there was no Wetland Zoning Ordinance. He then commented that he feels the
Wetland Zoning Ordinance only affects his family’s property. He further commented that he is
asking for approval of the 26 lot subdivision and would appeal the matter to Council, if
necessary.
Commissioner Miller asked whether the new plan had Rice Creek Watershed District approval.
Mr. Harstad explained he had deviated from the standard process with the first request because
he and City Staff felt things would go more smoothly with the Commission and Council if Rice
Creek Watershed had already given approval. He then explained he had asked Staff for
permission to return to the standard procedure of obtaining City approval prior to bringing the
matter to the Watershed District for approval. He further commented that City approval would
be subject to the approval of Rice Creek Watershed District.
Michel Mourad of 7090 Silver Lake Road indicated he had missed the previous meetings
concerning this matter and asked for a brief overview of the proposal and, specifically, what
types of houses would be in the development.
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Mr. Harstad explained he would be developing the land and selling lots to one single builder. He
then explained that the narrowest lot would be approximately 81 feet wide and the largest is 118
feet wide and he expects to end up with homes in the $150,000 to $210,000 range that are mostly
split entry or split entry walkouts.
Chair Stevenson asked if the type of construction and architectural features would be left up to
the builder.
Mr. Harstad indicated he would maintain architectural control over certain standards in the
development.
Mr. Moukad asked if the same types of homes would have been in the development if there were
only 11 lots versus the 26 lots.
Mr. Harstad indicated there would have been bigger homes on the 11 lots but some residents
were concerned that the houses would be too big for the area.
Kathy Peterson of 5185 Longview Drive indicated she thought Mr. Harstad had received
approval for 8 or 9 lots.
Mr. Harstad indicated he had never requested approval for 8 lots and explained that the City had
said he could build 8 lots without a variance and he had pointed out he could have built 14 lots
and met the Code.
Commissioner Miller indicated that Mr. Harstad had said for safety reasons and to save the trees
he wanted to avoid building on Silver Lake Road. She then asked why that was no longer a
concern.
Mr. Harstad commented that it was a concern for him but it was not a concern well taken by
Council or the Planning Commission.
Commissioner Scotch asked Mr. Harstad to go back to the drawing board and come back with
the correct requirements for the proper amount of lots.
MOTION/SECOND: Hegland/Scotch. To Approve Resolution 687-02, a Resolution
Recommending Denial of a Preliminary Plat for the Proposed Longview Estates Major
Subdivision Within a Wetland Zoning District.
Commissioner Miller said she feels the Commission should uphold the Code.
Ayes – 7 Nays – 0 Motion carried.
Director Ericson indicated this item has been scheduled for a public hearing before Council on
Monday, February 25, 2002.
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Kathy Peterson of 5185 Long View Drive indicated she had not been receiving notices on this
matter and asked the City to update its records.
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6. Planning Case No. VR01-012
Planner Atkinson explained that the Days Inn had requested a variance to increase the height of
its sign and, after discussion and review of pictures taken by Staff, the Commission had directed
Staff to draft a Resolution denying the variance. He then commented that the applicant, after
hearing the discussion, agrees that exploring other options for signage is a better alternative to
raising the height of the sign.
MOTION/SECOND: Johnson/Miller. To Approve Resolution 688-02, a Resolution Denying a
Variance from the Maximum Sign Height Requirement to Increase a Pylon Sign to 65 Feet at
Days Inn.
Chair Stevenson commented he was glad to see the 65 feet mentioned in the Resolution.
Ayes – 7 Nays – 0 Motion carried.
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7. Review Planning Commission Bylaws
Planner Atkinson indicated that the Commission reviews its bylaws annually and noted that, if
any changes needed to be made, they would be made by Resolution at the next meeting.
Chair Stevenson indicated he was comfortable with the bylaws and noted some changes were
made last year. He then commented that he has a question concerning the nine members versus
the seven members.
Community Development Director Ericson indicated that the City’s Code specifies that the
Planning Commission is a membership of nine individuals and noted if the Planning
Commission wanted to change that, the bylaws would be inconsistent with City code.
Chair Stevenson indicated that the Commission was originally a seven-member Commission
with two interns who were non-voting members. He then commented that two years ago Council
changed the membership to nine members and the Commission has trouble keeping nine
members on the Commission.
Commissioner Miller indicated according to the bylaws on Page 3 the staff reports and minutes
are supposed to be discussed during the agenda session but that is not what the Commission is
doing.
Chair Stevenson indicated the positioning of the agenda was changed to reflect the ability to take
minutes and record that part of the session.
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Director Ericson recommended leaving the language the way it is written because it means that
the Commission can discuss those items but does not have to. He then commented that the
Commission had discussed in the past that it is not necessary to take minutes on the staff report
updates from previous Council action and noted it may make sense to move that to the agenda
session.
Chair Stevenson indicated that the change was made because it was thought that the agenda
session would not be televised but it is.
Commissioner Miller expressed concern for the attendance requirements listed on Page 4 of the
bylaws.
Chair Stevenson indicated at one time the bylaws indicated that if you missed three meetings in a
row you would be deemed to have vacated your seat but it was decided that the bylaws should
list a number of meetings required per year.
MOTION/SECOND: Miller/Stevenson. To Accept the Bylaws as Presented.
Ayes – 7 Nays – 0 Motion carried.
In light of the discussion concerning the structure of the agenda session, the Commission decided
to move the staff reports and chairperson/commissioners’ reports to the agenda session.
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8. Next Planning Commission Meeting: February 20, 2002
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9. Adjournment to Agenda Session
There being no further business before the Planning Commission, Chair Stevenson adjourned the
meeting at 7:35 p.m.
(The meeting immediately adjourned to the Agenda Session)
Respectfully submitted,
James Ericson
Community Development Director
Transcribed by:
Joan Lenzmeier
TimeSaver Off Site Secretarial, Inc.