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PROCEEDINGS OF THE MOUNDS VIEW PLANNING COMMISSION
CITY OF MOUNDS VIEW
RAMSEY COUNTY, MINNESOTA
Regular Meeting
July 17, 2002
Mounds View City Hall
2401 Highway 10, Mounds View, MN 55112
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1. Call to Order
The meeting was called to order by Chair Stevenson at 7:00 p.m., July 17, 2002.
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2. Roll Call
Members Present: Commissioners Stevenson, Miller, Johnson, Scotch, Hegland, Zwirn, and
Song
Members Absent: None.
Also Present: Community Development Director Ericson and Planner Atkinson
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Index to Minutes Page 1
Planning Case VR02-002
Location: 5532 St. Stephen Street
Applicant: Arlen Baumhoefner
Planning Case VR02-003
Location: 2400 County Highway 10
Applicant: Robert and Anthony Jacob
Consideration of Resolution 702-02, a Resolution Recommending
Approval of an Amendment to Section 1106.04 Subd. 6(b) of the City
Code Pertaining to Accessory Structures
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3. Citizens Requests and Comments on Items Not on the Agenda
None.
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4. Approval of Minutes
a. April 3, 2002
b. June 5, 2002
MOTION/SECOND: Miller/Song. To Approve the Minutes of the April 3, 2002 and June 5,
2002 Planning Commission Meeting.
Ayes – 7 Nays – 0 Motion carried.
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5. Planning Case VR02-002
Planner Atkinson indicated the applicant had requested approval of a variance to allow the
construction of a third stall on his garage. He then indicated that the sideyard setback is five (5)
feet and the applicant has requested a variance to allow a four (4) foot sideyard setback.
Planner Atkinson indicated it was his understanding that variances have been granted in the past
for a third stall on a garage when the lot is not quite wide enough to accommodate that third stall.
Planner Atkinson indicated the criteria for granting a variance were covered in the Staff report
and asked for questions of the Commission.
Chair Stevenson asked if Staff had received any comments from the neighbors.
Planner Atkinson indicated that notices had been sent out for the public hearing and Staff had
received no response.
Chair Stevenson opened the public hearing at 7:05 p.m.
Chair Stevenson commented that it looked to him like the shed is on the property line or close to
it.
Planner Atkinson indicated the applicant would be removing two accessory structures and
putting the contents inside the third stall.
Chair Stevenson asked when the sheds would be removed.
Planner Atkinson indicated the sheds would be removed when construction is completed.
Commissioner Miller asked whether the treated wood floor as proposed would meet City code.
Planner Atkinson indicated that is an issue for the building inspector and would be handled when
the applicant applies for the permit.
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Commissioner Miller asked if there is a wall between the last stall and the new addition.
Planner Atkinson said yes.
Chair Stevenson indicated the biggest issue is to make sure that the variance granted is the
minimum necessary to alleviate the hardship. He then indicated the Commission is not opposed
to residents upgrading their property and asked how far from the property line the current garage
is.
Mr. Baumhoefner indicated the garage is a total of 14 feet from the property line and the sheds
are located six inches into the five (5) foot setback.
Commissioner Zwirn noted that Mr. Baumhoefner had referred to a regulation size 9 foot
overhead door and commented that a 9 foot door is not regulation. He then asked if there was an
intent to store a vehicle in that stall with a wood floor.
Mr. Baumhoefner indicated the plans had been changed to include a cement floor.
Commissioner Zwirn indicated he mentioned that there were other door widths that would not
require variances.
Chair Stevenson indicated an addition of less than 10 feet in width would crowd most people and
does not seem feasible.
Commissioner Johnson asked what the width of the other two garage doors is.
Mr. Baumhoefner indicated the artist who had sketched the drawing of the garage had made it
proportional and he thinks they were working with 18 feet and 9 foot doors.
Commissioner Miller asked what would be done about the driveway.
Mr. Baumhoefner indicated there was already a parking pad located there.
Chair Stevenson closed the public hearing at 7:13 p.m.
MOTION/SECOND: Hegland/Johnson. To Approve Resolution 701-02, a Resolution
Approving a Variance From the Side Yard Setback Requirement to Allow a Garage Addition to
Extend Within Four (4) Feet of the Side Property Line on the Property Located at 5532 St.
Stephen Street.
Ayes – 7 Nays – 0 Motion carried.
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6. Planning Case VR02-003
Community Development Director Ericson indicated this case is a request from Jake’s Sports
Café to expand their parking lot into the recently purchased property next to them. He then
indicated that Jake’s is doing a good business and has run into some parking issues and, with the
County Road H2 reconstruction, the parking issue will be further complicated.
Director Ericson indicated Jake’s would like to move into the parcel next to it and has looked at
several site plans. He then indicated that one of the big issues inherent with the property is the
50-foot setback established with the PUD that was established to provide additional buffer area
between the residents on H2 and the theatre development.
Director Ericson provided pictures looking east along the 50-foot setback fence. He then said he
had provided the pictures to show the significant tree cover on the site.
Director Ericson indicated the request has gotten a little complicated because he is not sure
whether a variance is needed or whether this request requires review by the City Council because
of the requirements of the PUD. He also indicated there is no resolution before the Commission
at this meeting because the site plan was not provided until Monday.
Director Ericson indicated he would need to speak with the applicants to determine which of the
numerous plans being discussed is the one they wish to proceed with.
Director Ericson indicated Staff had noticed property owners within 350 feet for this meeting and
had sent out a second notice to residents for the public hearing at the Council level. He then
asked the Commission for feedback in the form of a motion as to whether the Commission felt
that this parcel should be removed from the PUD and whether or not it would be acceptable to
have a 30-foot setback rather than the 50-foot setback.
Commissioner Miller asked how many parking stalls are required by code and how many
parking stalls would be possible if the trees were preserved. She also asked how many stalls
would be created by using the 30-foot setback.
Director Ericson indicated that the site plan presented shows an additional 46 stalls at the 30-foot
setback. He then indicated that Staff has provided a site plan that provides 49 or 50 stalls but
maintains the 50-foot tree cover but encroaches into area where there are no existing mature
trees.
Director Ericson indicated there was a question as to how the number of stalls required was
calculated and said Staff would need to refigure. He then said that Staff knows Jake’s is under
parked but is not sure by how much.
Commissioner Johnson asked if anyone checked with the City Forester to see if the 20 feet of
trees are worth keeping.
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Director Ericson indicated he was out at the site and there are a number of diseased and dead
trees but said he did not see that many along the fence line would need to come out as a result of
disease or dying. He then said he thought it would be a good idea to have the forester come out
to take a look at the trees.
Director Ericson indicated they would be back before the Commission if it is determined that a
variance is required.
Chair Stevenson indicated a headlight buffer of some sort would need to be included in the plans
to buffer the homes across the street. He further indicated he felt Council would be more
receptive of a plan that included a headlight buffer.
Commissioner Johnson indicated he would like to see the forester look at the trees as it seems
some are dead.
Commissioner Hegland commented that more trees would be lost during the reconstruction of
H2.
Director Ericson indicated that the trees are right up against the roadway so when it is expanded
there will be a 10 to 15 foot area that would be moved into as well as further encroachment into
the tree cover for the trail.
Commissioner Hegland said he understands the concerns with maintaining the tree barrier and he
would like to find a way to save it but that may not be possible with the reconstruction of H2.
Commissioner Johnson commented that the real barrier was the fence.
Commissioner Miller asked if Jake’s would have an entrance on H2.
Director Ericson indicated that the entrance would be shifted so it would line up with Edgewood
Drive from the south because that is the best from a traffic circulation standpoint.
Commissioner Miller asked what that would do to the dumpster area.
Director Ericson indicated the plan shows a dumpster area and that would be enclosed. He also
indicated that Jake’s is hoping to expand the business and create outdoor seating and do
improvements to the building beyond what has already been done.
Commissioner Johnson asked if there would be adequate room for snow storage on the site.
Director Ericson indicated that there would be room to store snow on the site and, if too much
snow is received, they would need to haul it offsite.
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Rob Jacob of 1330 59th Place, Plymouth; and Tony Jacob of 188 17th Avenue SW, New
Brighton, addressed the Commission and explained they wished to expand their business by
improving parking and updating and expanding the downstairs banquet facility as well as
creating an outdoor patio area at some point.
Mr. Jacob indicated that they would do whatever is necessary to screen the headlights from the
neighbors and asked for support for their additional parking request.
Commissioner Song asked if there was a plan to do landscaping around the parking lot.
Mr. Jacob indicated it was their intent to use black wrought iron fence to dress it up and separate
it from the movie theatre parking. He then pointed out areas that would be landscaped on the
plan.
Commissioner Hegland asked whether the outdoor seating area would remove parking spaces.
Mr. Jacob indicated they wanted to do the outdoor seating area on the Highway 10 side of the
property so that they do not interfere with the neighbors. He then said they would lose some
parking to accommodate the patio area.
Commissioner Scotch commented that the Jacobs have done a great job also with their location
on County Road D.
Chair Stevenson recommended including the fence with the plan to Council as a way of
appeasing those concerned with headlights.
Commissioner Hegland said he felt the idea was great but the details need to be worked out. He
then asked if the Jacobs own the property.
Mr. Jacob explained they had entered into a contract to purchase it and it legally becomes their
ownership upon the death of the individual they are under contract with. He further commented
they are leasing the space.
Chair Stevenson indicated he did not see an issue with the request provided part of the buffer is
maintained.
Commissioner Song asked if the City would be compensated with replacement trees for those to
be removed.
Director Ericson indicated the City does not have a tree preservation ordinance and then said that
the applicant intends to landscape the site and upgrade the look of the area. He further
commented that Staff has been discussing the possibility of bringing a proposed tree preservation
ordinance before the Planning Commission and Council for consideration.
Commissioner Song said she would like to see a tree replacement program.
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Director Ericson indicated that, if the property was pulled from the PUD, the setback would be
30-feet. He also said that Staff would work with the applicants to retain as many trees as
possible.
Commissioner Hegland asked what would be involved with removing this parcel from the PUD.
Director Ericson indicated that this has been done before with another parcel for financing
reasons. He then said that a public hearing is required and the original signers of the PUD need
to sign off on this parcel.
Commissioner Miller commented that the Jacobs were fortunate that no office building was put
up there as proposed.
Commissioner Zwirn asked whether the parking proposed would take into consideration the
intent to expand the seating downstairs and outside.
Director Ericson indicated that Staff would look at what kind of seating possibilities could be
utilized in the basement area, the upper level and the outdoor seating and determine the number
of parking stalls required but said, at this time, he did not have a definitive answer to that
question.
Mr. Jacob commented that they have found that seating shifts outside during the warmer months
when outdoor seating is available. He also commented that the downstairs seating is for banquet
or scheduled events not regular restaurant business. He further commented that he feels the
proposed parking would cover the intended expansion but said they would work with Staff to
make sure.
MOTION/SECOND: Stevenson/Miller. To Recommend to Council Approval of the Removal
of this Parcel from the Theatre PUD.
Ayes – 7 Nays – 0 Motion carried.
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7. Consideration of Resolution 702-02, a Resolution Recommending Approval of an
Amendment to Section 1106.04 Subd. 6(b) of the City Code Pertaining to Accessory
Structures.
Planner Atkinson explained that earlier in the year, the Planning Commission recommended
approval of an amendment to the maximum square footage requirements for accessory structures
increasing the maximum area allowed for accessory structures from 1,400 to 1,800 square feet.
Since Council approval, an inconsistency was discovered with a similar provision in a different
Section of the Zoning Code and this Resolution would recommend approval of Ordinance 701
correcting the inconsistency.
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MOTION/SECOND: Johnson/Miller. To Approve Resolution 702-02, a Resolution
Recommending Approval of a City Code Amendment to Section 1106.04 Subd. 6(b) Regarding
Accessory Structures.
Ayes – 7 Nays – 0 Motion carried.
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8. Next Planning Commission Meeting: August 7, 2002
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9. Adjournment to Agenda Session
There being no further business before the Planning Commission, Chair Stevenson adjourned the
meeting at 7:58 p.m.
(The meeting immediately adjourned to the Agenda Session)
Respectfully submitted,
James Ericson
Community Development Director
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Joan Lenzmeier
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