HomeMy WebLinkAbout11-20-2002PROCEEDINGS OF THE MOUNDS VIEW PLANNING COMMISSION
CITY OF MOUNDS VIEW
RAMSEY COUNTY, MINNESOTA
Regular Meeting
November 20, 2002
Mounds View City Hall
2401 Highway 10, Mounds View, MN 55112
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1. Call to Order
The meeting was called to order by Chair Stevenson at 7:00 p.m., November 20, 2002.
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2. Roll Call
Members Present: Commissioners Stevenson, Song, Zwirn, Miller, Scotch, Hegland, and
Johnson
Members Absent: None.
Also Present: Community Development Director Ericson
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Index to Minutes Page
Planning Case DE01-005 2
Location: 5100 Edgewood Drive
Applicant: John Gannon, ATS&R
Planning Case VR02-012 3
Location: 2256 Lois Drive
Applicant: Steve Paparella
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3. Approve Minutes
a. October 2, 2002
MOTION/SECOND: Miller/Zwirn. To Approve the Minutes of the Planning Commission for
October 2, 2002 as Presented.
Ayes – 7 Nays – 0 Motion carried.
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4. Citizens Requests and Comments on Items Not on the Agenda
None.
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5. Planning Case DE01-005
Community Development Director Ericson indicated that Edgewood Middle School was before
the Commission seeking approval of a development review for the previously approved
expansion due to changes in the approved plan. He then indicated that the school had been
required to scale back the expansion due to budget constraints.
Director Ericson indicated the three areas of expansion focus mainly on the entry way and front
of the building. He then indicated that Staff had reviewed the request and all the setbacks and
parking requirements are met with the plan.
Director Ericson indicated Staff had provided a resolution recommending approval and said the
representatives from ATS&R were present to answer any questions the Commission may have.
Ms. Peltsman, ATS&R, provided color drawings of the proposed expansion. She then reviewed
what was previously approved and compared it to the current request.
Ms. Peltsman indicated the expansion of the front of the building would be built tall enough to
screen the mechanicals from view as well as acoustically.
Ms. Peltsman provided a drawing and explanation of the outside elevation of the building. She
then indicated there would be a new media center but the industrial technology area and cafeteria
had been eliminated from the plan and incorporated into the existing space. The rest of the
expansion is to be used for administration.
Commissioner Miller said she thought Ms. Peltsman provided a good presentation but asked for
clarification on the original plan because it had specified two classrooms, a media center, an
industrial technology area as well as a cafeteria. She then asked if any of those were
incorporated into the new expansion.
Ms. Peltsman explained that the district functions had moved out of the building so that
industrial technology could utilize that space. She then indicated that the school had
reconfigured and consolidated spaces in order to accommodate all of the proposed changes
within the existing space. She further explained that the cafeteria is being improved rather than
reconstructed by adding large widows, a finished ceiling and new lighting.
Director Ericson indicated the resolution should state that the expansion is approximately 12,000
square feet. He then explained there are three stipulations attached to the resolution. The first is
a Rice Creek Watershed District permit, the second is that all disturbed pervious areas be
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restored with sod or landscape, and the third is that the resolution of approval be recorded with
Ramsey County.
MOTION/SECOND: Johnson/Song. To Approve Resolution 715-02, a Resolution
Recommending Approval of a Development Review for an Expansion to Edgewood Middle
School.
Ayes – 7 Nays – 0 Motion carried.
Director Ericson indicated that this matter would be before Council on December 9, 2002.
Commissioner Miller suggested adding language indicating the resolution should be forwarded
to Council prior to the adoption of the minutes.
Director Ericson added the language to the resolution.
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6. Planning Case VR02-012
Community Development Director Ericson indicated this matter was set for a public hearing and
discussion of a variance from the minimum setback to allow a previously constructed driveway
located at 2256 Lois drive. He then explained that Staff became aware of the issue by driving
around the City and finding that the driveway was being reconstructed right to the property line.
Director Ericson indicated that the contractor had faxed the driveway permit application to the
City although the application did not include the fee or note the distance between the driveway
and the property line. Staff sent a letter to the contractor who did not respond. An inspection
later revealed that the driveway had been completed between the time the permit was requested
and before the permit was issued. He then indicated he had attached correspondence from the
property owner to his contractor as well as correspondence from the City to the property owner.
Director Ericson indicated he had received input from the neighbor who abuts this property and
that property owner does not have an issue with the driveway. He then indicated he had received
another comment from an additional neighbor who also does not have an issue with the
driveway.
Director Ericson indicated that Staff noticed four or five other driveways that were constructed in
a similar manner in that area. He then asked the Commission to discuss the matter and provide
direction to Staff as to how to proceed.
Director Ericson indicated that the applicant was not able to attend this meeting as he is out of
town.
Chair Stevenson opened the public hearing at 7:30 p.m.
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Commissioner Johnson asked if a permit was pulled by the contractor.
Director Ericson indicated the permit was applied for but the work was begun and completed
before the permit was issued.
Commissioner Johnson indicated he was surprised that a resident would have a driveway
constructed right to the property line. He also commented that he is concerned that the
contractor would begin work prior to the issuance of the permit.
Director Ericson referred to the letter from City Staff indicating that further information would
be needed prior to the issuance of the permit. He then indicated that it appears that the
application was submitted and the work begun prior to the permit being approved by the City.
Commissioner Hegland asked if anyone is sure whether the driveway is right up to the property
line as the drawing indicates a one-foot space.
Director Ericson answered that both property owners maintain that the fence is the property line
and without a survey to show otherwise, that was what had to be assumed.
Commissioner Johnson indicated he did not like that construction went forward without a permit.
Chair Stevenson asked whether the contractor is doing business in Mounds View.
Director Ericson indicated the contractor does not do a lot of work in the City.
Chair Stevenson indicated he did not want this to happen again.
Commissioner Johnson indicated that the time to correct issues such as these is when a permit is
pulled. That gives the City the chance to bring these types of driveways into compliance with
the City’s Code.
Commissioner Miller commented that the driveway looks better in its current location than it
would one foot off the property line.
Director Ericson indicated that the adjoining property owner was concerned that if the driveway
would be cut back a foot; it would be messy and unkempt and used as a driveway anyway.
Commissioner Johnson said he feels that the contractor got away with something.
Director Ericson indicated City Staff would remember this when the contractor applies for a
license within the City.
Director Ericson indicated he feels a case can be made for a hardship and, if that is the direction
of the Planning Commission, Staff could draft a resolution for approval at the next meeting.
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Commissioner Scotch suggested providing homeowners with correspondence concerning the
rules for driveways.
Commissioner Hegland indicated this was a replaced driveway not an expansion of the driveway
and, even though the request is after the fact, he feels it is an appropriate request.
Commissioner Johnson indicated the contractor took away the City’s opportunity to bring this
driveway into compliance.
Director Ericson indicated that Staff could let the contractor know that they either would not be
licensed in the City or would be fined on the next violation as well as notifying the Department
of Commerce.
Commissioner Hegland emphasized that the City has a problem with the contractor not the
homeowner on this matter.
Commissioner Hegland suggested putting information in the newsletter indicating that permits
are required.
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7. Next Planning Commission Meeting: December 4, 2002
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8. Adjournment to Agenda Session
There being no further business before the Planning Commission, Chair Stevenson adjourned the
meeting at 7:52 p.m.
(The meeting immediately adjourned to the Agenda Session)
Respectfully submitted,
Jim Ericson
Community Development Director
Transcribed by:
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