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PROCEEDINGS OF THE MOUNDS VIEW PLANNING COMMISSION
CITY OF MOUNDS VIEW
RAMSEY COUNTY, MINNESOTA
Regular Meeting
March 7, 2001
Mounds View City Hall
2401 Highway 10, Mounds View, MN 55112
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1. Call to Order
The meeting was called to order by Chair Stevenson at 7:00 p.m., March 7, 2001.
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2. Roll Call
Members Present: Commissioners Hegland, Stevenson, Kaden, Miller and Cerny.
Members Absent: Commissioner Johnson (excused).
Also Present: Community Development Director Ericson.
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Index to Minutes Page
Planning Case Nos. DE01-001 & WB01-001 2
Applicant: Minnesota Institute of Public Health
Location: 2720 Highway 10
Planning Case Nos. DE01-001, VR01-001 & CU01-001 6
Applicant: ISD #621
Location: 5500 Quincy Street
Special Planning Case No. SP-082-00 11
Continuation of Sign Code Review
Staff Reports/Items of Information 11
Chairperson and Planning Commission Reports 12
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3. Citizens Requests and Comments on Items Not on the Agenda
There were no resident comments on items not on the agenda.
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4. Planning Case Nos. DE01-001 & WB01-001
Community Development Director Ericson reported Minnesota Institute of Public Health, which
has recently become a subsidiary of Blue Cross Blue Shield, has applied for a development
review to construct a 16,912 square-foot office building on the vacant lot to the southeast of the
Holiday Store. The Silverview Estates PUD indicates the lot was intended to support a 25,000
square foot two-story office building. There is also a request for approval for a second
expansion that would potentially add 6,000 square feet of second-story office space. All together
the maximum proposed office space would be 22,912 square feet. Minnesota Institute of Health
has indicated that there will be no clinic, outpatient, classroom or medical procedures taking
place at the facility. This facility would function as the central headquarters for the organization.
Director Ericson explained that the proposed building meets all City zoning requirements and the
requirements of the Silverview Estates PUD. There is one issue with regard to the placement of
the building. The original site plan submitted by Minnesota Institute of Health indicated the
building would be setback 30 feet off of Highway 10. The property owner to the south, Mr.
Winiecki, expressed concern for the location of the proposed building as it blocked the view of
his building. Minnesota Institute of Health and its developer, and architect have, in a good faith
effort to appease Mr. Winiecki, agreed to set the building back at 50 feet from Highway 10. The
developers have indicated it would be cost prohibitive to pull the building back any further.
Director Ericson explained the Silverview PUD established the parking requirements for the
office building to be one space per 250 square feet of gross floor area. That means this building,
at full buildout of 22,000 square feet, would require 92 spaces. The site plan indicates there will
be 70 stalls built to cover the first phase of the building and the first expansion. The site plan
also shows 22 spaces as proof of parking for the final expansion phase should that take place.
Director Ericson explained that with the increased setback from Highway 10 more of the
building is situated within the 100-foot wetland buffer noting that the amount of building and
impervious surface within the buffer is still only 10% and the Silverview Estates PUD allowed
for a 45 percent buffer coverage.
Director Ericson noted the landscape plan has been reviewed and approved by the City Forester.
Director Ericson noted the lighting is within City requirements.
Director Ericson explained there would be access off of Highway 10 and Silver Lake Road.
Staff has spoken to the Ramsey County Traffic Engineer who has indicated he would like to see
a 30-foot wide access that is more in keeping with uses of this type. The Traffic Engineer also
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mentioned a turn lane on Highway 10 indicating it may be possible to use part of the shoulder to
incorporate the turn lane.
Director Ericson explained the only accessory structure on the property would be the trash
enclosure located behind the building.
Director Ericson noted the drainage plan has been reviewed and approved by the public works
department. He also noted the site will provide less runoff to the storm water management pond
than originally estimated and stated there will need to be a drainage swale between Mr.
Winiecki’s property and the proposed building.
Director Ericson noted that rather than requiring the developer to build trailways and provide
decorative lighting it may be more appropriate to escrow a certain dollar amount to allow the
City to build the trailway after the Highway 10 redevelopment plan is developed. Staff estimates
the amount of the improvement dedication would be $14,125.00.
Director Ericson noted Minnesota Institute for Public Health intended to relocate the sign from
its Anoka location to the site and that the sign is 32 square feet and internally illuminated. The
sign will be set on a masonry base with materials that match the building.
Director Ericson noted there is a Resolution for consideration if the Commission chooses to do
so.
Mr. George Winiecki of 2704 N.E. Highway 10 addressed the Commission and apologized for
not being able to attend the previous meeting concerning this issue. He then gave a brief history
of how he arrived at his current business location noting he owned the corner lot that was the key
piece in the Silverview Estates PUD planning process. Mr. Winiecki then made his point to the
Commission, which is that his business would be negatively impacted if the proposed building is
not setback even with his building. Mr. Winiecki told the Commission that he felt that he gave
up location when he sold the corner lot which allowed the Silverview Estates PUD to go forward
but made up for losing location with curb appeal as the building he moved into is a very nice
building.
Mr. Winiecki noted the City had led him to believe the only way to develop the lot he owned was
through a PUD and so he agreed to the deal to make it work. He explained to the Commission
his one concern and request during the Silverview Estates PUD planning process was for the
location of the building that would someday be built on the lot in question. He then explained to
the Commission that he thought he had an agreement with the City on the matter.
Mr. Winiecki noted he would like the Commission to tell the developer there is a concept plan
that is good and require them to follow it. He then stated he feels betrayed on this issue as the
other people involved in the transaction have gotten what they wanted and he has not.
Mr. Winiecki provided copies of the Spring Lake Park, New Brighton, Arden Hills and
Shoreview zoning codes as well as Mounds View’s code to show that his request to require the
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building to be setback even with his building is a normal and customary practice in surrounding
communities.
Mr. Jaker, Director of the Minnesota Institute of Health, told the Commission he just met Mr.
Winiecki and stated he and his company want to be a good neighbor in Mounds View. He stated
his company is sensitive to environmental issues as it is part of their business to advise people on
environmental issues. He then introduced Mr. Dzurik of McGough Construction.
Mr. Dzurik explained he and his company like to tailor a building to their client and the site,
which is why they did not conform to the original PUD requirements noting they needed to allow
for horizontal expansion in the near future. He then explained his client would incur additional
costs to move the building back the additional 20 feet. Mr. Dzurik noted he drove by Mr.
Winiecki’s building to view it for line of sight and stated he felt Mr. Winiecki’s sign draws the
attention first and then the building. In his opinion, you may not be able to see the building from
the intersection but by the time you reach the access for the proposed building the eye begins to
see Mr. Winiecki’s building.
Chair Stevenson asked if the developer had explored the possibility of moving the office toward
the car wash.
Mr. Dzurik noted they have not specifically explored that option but certainly could noting they
would lose an entire entrance if they did that.
Chair Stevenson noted this is an office with employees not a business relying on a customer base
as Mr. Winiecki is.
Mr. Winiecki noted the developer had pushed four feet of fill onto the lot which is why the
developer is incurring additional costs to correct the soil. He stated he did not feel this was his
problem and that he should not have to pay for it.
Chair Stevenson questioned at what point Mr. Winiecki’s building becomes visible when
traveling on Highway 10.
Director Ericson gave a line of sight drawing to Chair Stevenson showing a person would be able
to see Mr. Winiecki’s building from the Holiday store.
Chair Stevenson asked Mr. Winiecki how far back his building is setback from Highway 10.
Mr. Winiecki stated his building was setback approximately 75 feet.
Commissioner Hegland questioned whether there was an agreement in the original concept plan
requiring the building to be setback even with Mr. Winiecki’s building.
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Director Ericson indicated the original concept plan calls for an office building but does not have
a specific setback requirement. He further explained the PUD determines minimum setbacks but
stated the PUD allows for flexibility.
Commissioner Miller asked if Mr. Winiecki had seen the line of sight drawing.
Director Ericson noted it is a line of sight to the corner of the building so it is difficult to get the
full effect of what the line of sight is. He then noted the whole building would not be visible
once the proposed office building is built.
Commissioner Kaden explained he had driven by the area this afternoon and feels that the sign
attracts enough attention to then direct the eye to the building.
Mr. Winiecki stated every one had worked on the concept plan and he was asked where he
wanted the office building to be located as he had a big stake in the development.
Chair Stevenson noted he would need more information before passing a Resolution.
Director Ericson noted he would get the 1997 meeting minutes for review at the next meeting.
Commissioner Miller pointed to a concrete sidewalk around the perimeter of the building and
asked if it would also be following the proposed expansion building.
Mr. Dzurik explained it was a sidewalk as required by the fire code and explained it would go
around the expansion as well.
Mr. Dzurik pointed out the entrance to the building on the drawing.
Mr. Winiecki noted he has been in business in Mounds View for 22 years and asked the
Commission to require the developer to set the building back.
Mr. Dzurik stated it comes down to visibility and no matter what a person will not be able to see
the side of Mr. Winiecki’s building as you can now.
Commissioner Miller noted she sees the sign first and then the building.
Commissioner Kaden commented he would feel better in asking the developer to move the
building back if there was something in writing promising the setback. He then pointed out the
ordinances Mr. Winiecki had provided copies of outlined a requirement for flexibility. He then
stated, in his opinion, the developer has made a good faith effort to move the building back.
Commissioner Hegland noted he would like to see the minutes before making any decisions.
MOTION/SECOND: Hegland/Cerny. To Table Resolution 650-01 to the next Planning
Commission Meeting to Allow Staff Time to Research the Matter.
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Ayes – 5 Nays – 0 Motion carried.
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5. Planning Case Nos. DE01-001, VR01-001 & CU01-001
Community Development Director Ericson explained the Pinewood expansion encompasses
approximately 10,000 square feet of new area. The plan also indicates there will be a complete
overhaul of the parking situation as well. There are parking issues on the site right now and the
expansion would create 50 additional stalls on the site. A play area will be converted to parking
and parking would be extended to the south along Quincy Street. Director Ericson noted a
representative from the architect’s office was present to answer questions about the plan. He
also noted he had spoken to the Ramsey County Traffic Engineer who has no problem with the
plans.
Director Ericson noted the Planning Commission had asked for a parking analysis that was
completed by Staff. Per City Code the school is required to provide one stall for each classroom
and one stall for each 50 students which totals 46 stalls. This poses a problem on the site as the
school employs a staff of 96. The expansion would allow for 115 stalls total.
Director Ericson noted Rice Creek has indicated approval and stated no ponding would be
required as the site will utilize drainage into the green space areas and there really is very little
impervious surface being added to the site.
Director Ericson noted the setbacks are an issue on the site and would require a variance as the
parking lot on Quincy is six (6 ½) or seven (7) feet into the right-of-way. Staff is not sure how it
occurred but can only imagine the City and the school district agreed at some point to allow the
situation to occur.
Director Ericson noted the other issue is the proposed parking lot to the south is indicated at a
20-foot setback. The conditional use permit requires a 30-foot setback from residential property
and the bituminous is setback at 25 feet. The school district will either need a variance for that
or will need to pull back the parking lot to comply with the setback requirements.
Director Ericson noted the Planning Commission needed to review the requirements of the
conditional use permit but noted all of them appeared to be satisfied with the exception of the
parking lot setbacks.
Director Ericson explained the expansion will match the architecture and design of the existing
building and the mechanical equipment on the roof of the building will be screened. He then
noted Staff feels this is a good proposal and is hopeful it will resolve some of the issues for the
neighbors on Quincy Street. Director Ericson also noted he has talked with the police
department and asked them to increase patrol in that area at the congested times of day and ticket
those vehicles in violation.
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Commissioner Hegland asked if it was the intent of the south parking lot to use the one-way
method.
Director Ericson explained the south access could go in and out but was designed so that vehicles
would not have to circulate the whole site to get out.
Ms. Gay of Perkins & Will showed the site plan for the school and explained where things were
located on the site.
Ms. Gay explained that the west building expansion was designed to allow school administration
a clear view of the school buses lined up on the site as well as the children and other individuals
entering and exiting the building.
Ms. Gay pointed out the mechanicals on the roof will be screened and the ductwork will be
painted to match the color of the roof so it will not stand out.
Ms. Gay reviewed the interior plan for the building with the Commission and residents.
Ms. Gay noted there would also be general upgrades in the school for finishes and floorings.
Ms. Gay noted they had planned to be able to expand classroom space to the south and not
interfere with the parking lot. She noted she would need to go to the district if the City requires
the parking lot be moved back.
Ms. Gay noted she would send a request in writing for the variance for the 20-foot setback.
Ms. Gay noted they intended to match the exterior brick as closely as they can.
Ms. Gay reviewed an analysis of the lighting for the site that indicated light would not leave the
site.
Chair Stevenson asked if the school would be requiring staff to park in the area where the buses
will board. He then asked that the stalls be marked to reflect staff and visitor parking.
Chair Stevenson opened the public hearing at 8:33 p.m.
Mr. Dewey Nelson of 5459 Quincy Street asked for clarification on the sidewalks along Quincy.
He then asked why there is a setback issue on Quincy.
Ms. Gay explained the existing parking is encroaching into the city right of way and, in order to
line up the expansion parking to keep it in line with the existing parking, the school would need a
variance.
Mr. Nelson expressed a concern for how many crossing guards would be needed.
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Ms. Gay said she could not speak to that but stated the school is very concerned for student
safety, which is why they want to have the buses board on Quincy.
Mr. Nelson indicated he did not think it was appropriate to expand into the boulevard, as the kids
need a space to walk.
Director Ericson stated he thought it would have been nice to have someone from the district at
the meeting to address the safety issues. He then noted the school his kids attend has a
designated pick up and drop off area and suggested the school district may need to communicate
that issue to parents telling them to stay off of Quincy. He then asked that Ms. Gay have
someone from the school administration present at the next meeting to give assurance to the
neighborhood that this expansion will fix the parking problem at the school and to speak to the
safety issues raised.
Ms. Gay apologized that there was not a school district representative at the meeting stating no
one was available but someone will come to the next meeting as they are concerned for the
safety and parking issues.
Director Ericson then clarified the setback on Quincy would not change but the parking lot will
continue to the south following the same setback not getting any closer to Quincy.
Mr. Dennis Hames of 5511 Quincy Street stated the City has no idea what goes on over at the
school and asked where the school crossing will be located. He stated it was fine to move the
crosswalk back from the intersection where the child was hit but no one took into consideration
that there is no where for the kids to walk in the winter when there are cars parked on the street.
He stated he goes over to the school every day and picks his child up so that he does not have to
worry about his child trying to cross Quincy at the busy time of day. He then stated no one on
Quincy wants sidewalks added but stated he is very concerned and feels this issue should be
addressed as part of this expansion.
Mr. Hames suggested there be parking restrictions placed on Quincy to allow no parking during
the busy time in the morning and in the afternoon. He then noted he has seen the police drive by
when there is a vehicle parked in front of his driveway noting when he called to complain the
first answer he gets is the officer was answering a call. He also noted the police do not ticket for
parking violations because it takes 20 to 40 minutes to get them to respond to a parking violation
call.
Chair Stevenson noted that the crosswalk would need to be marked.
Mr. Hames suggested fold down stop signs posted in the area that the crossing guards would use
to help get children across the street may help in this situation as it would require all cars to stop
in the area during school release times.
Chair Stevenson noted the City and the school would need to address the safety and crosswalk
issues at the next meeting.
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Commissioner Kaden asked that the residents present come to the next meeting to express their
concerns to the school administration.
Mr. Hames stated he has talked to the principal but, in his opinion, the principal seems to be
operating under the “ignore the situation and it will go away” theory. Mr. Hames then
complimented Director Ericson on his attention to and the handling of the situation when
residents called.
Ms. Vera Olson of 5499 Quincy Street noted the parking was a problem on Quincy and she does
not see how the drawing presented will help it as it is very convenient to park on Quincy, which
is why they do it.
Commissioner Hegland asked if the issue is drop off parking.
Ms. Olson stated there is a parking problem all day noting she thinks it is staff.
Commissioner Hegland noted there would be a lot of parking added so that should address the
staff parking issue.
Commissioner Hegland stated the school could require staff to park in the lot.
Mr. Hames noted the basketball court is open to parking but few cars park out there.
Commissioner Hegland indicated that staff parking should be addressed by adding more spaces
and suggested when the school administrator is at the meeting that the school should have a plan
to present concerning staff parking and student drop off and pick up traffic along with the safety
issues.
Mr. Hames asked if it was feasible to get parking restrictions during drop off and pick up times.
Director Ericson noted a number of residents have been talking about parking problems on
Quincy and that when he saw the Police Chief walk by he asked him to speak to the issues as to
how the City can control the situation.
Chief Clark noted parking along Quincy has been issue since he started with the City. He noted
the folks at Pinewood have been receptive to his suggestions concerning alleviating the parking
and did open the basketball court for parking. He noted as a part of the expansion the plan is to
reroute traffic to the county I side of the building for drop off and pick up.
Chief Clark then explained how the police department responds to parking complaint calls noting
that if officers are already involved in another matter the parking complaint call drops in priority
and as soon as the officer is free he/she will be sent over to do the parking complaint. He noted
this does not help the residents on Quincy with their parking concerns but stated calls must be
handled this way in the interest of public safety. He then noted he went over to Quincy Street
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and observed during drop off pick up time and feels this is mainly the issue. He stated he is
hopeful the plan to move the drop off and pick up to the County I side of the building will
alleviate the traffic issue on Quincy.
Mr. Jack Lasota of 5467 Quincy Street asked if vehicles could exit onto Quincy from the newly
expanded parking lot to the south.
Ms. Gay explained it is a one-way loop noting cars could enter off Quincy but could not exit.
Chair Stevenson stated he would like to see the current bituminous area to compare how close to
the property line the proposal of 20 feet is.
Director Ericson stated the information was in the original plans received.
Chair Stevenson asked how many parking stalls would be lost if the setback was changed to 25
feet.
Ms. Gay noted she would look into it.
Director Ericson said in looking at the plan he thought it may require dropping one of the stalls.
Chair Stevenson stated he would prefer to stay within the existing bituminous area.
Chair Stevenson closed the public hearing at 9:02 p.m.
Director Ericson asked if the Commission wanted to act on the Resolution or hear from the
administrator before passing this on to Council.
Commissioner Hegland stated he felt the Commission should resolve some more of the issues
before going to Council with it.
Commissioner Miller stated she did not see why the Commission couldn’t approve the
Resolution.
Chair Stevenson noted the Commission would table the matter for two weeks.
Director Ericson stated the Commission could table the matter to its next meeting as the Council
meeting is after the next Planning Commission meeting.
Commissioner Kaden again asked that residents come to the meeting with the school
administrator to tell them what happens and explain the parking and safety issues.
Director Ericson also asked the residents to come to the next meeting.
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6. Special Planning Case No. SP-082-00
Community Development Director Ericson explained this is the fourth comprehensive revision
of the sign code. He then reviewed the changes made to this revision of the code with the
Commission to make sure the changes accurately reflected what was discussed. He also
discussed the various changes to the code the City Attorney had recommended.
It was the consent of the Commission to change the language of the code slightly to require that
an inflatable device be no more than 30 feet above the surface to which it is attached.
It was the consent of the Commission to hold a public hearing on April 4, 2001 to discuss
changes to the sign code.
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7. Staff Reports
a. Previous Council Action
Community Development Director Ericson noted Council discussed at the work session
Pinewood Elementary, the building on Highway 10 and the concerns raised by Mr. Winiecki as
to setbacks, and potential long range redevelopment on Highway 10.
b. Highway 10 Project Update, Steering Committee
Community Development Director Ericson reported the City has received six (6) proposals from
various firms for the Highway 10 redevelopment project. Three of those firms were selected to
be interviewed and staff narrowed the list down to one firm that staff feels is best suited for the
project. He then noted this will be a year long process and that Council will have a Resolution
before it to award that bid at the next meeting.
Director Ericson stated he is looking for three people for the Highway 10 Redevelopment
Steering Committee stating Commissioners Johnson and Stevenson had expressed an interest in
serving on the Committee. He then noted there is one meeting a month on a Wednesday and that
there will be three representatives from each committee along with some members of the
business community, and the Ramsey County Traffic Engineer.
c. Cancellation of the March 21, 2001 Meeting
Community Development Director Ericson noted that, as there is unfinished business for the
March 21, 2001 meeting it will not be cancelled. He then noted he will be out of town and, as
such, there will not be much information available ahead of the meeting for Commissioners to
review.
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Director Ericson asked the Commission to let him know if any of them were interested in
attending any of the GTSI training sessions that are available.
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8. Chairperson and Planning Commissioners’ Reports
Commissioner Miller noted at the intersection of Long Lake and Hillview there is a Mounds
View banner flopping in the breeze upside down. She also stated she will be gone for the next
two meetings.
Community Development Director Ericson apologized to everyone for the late packets noting he
has placed an advertisement for a planning associate and hopes that within a couple of months
the Commission can start getting the packets on Friday and he will not have to assemble them on
the weekends.
Director Ericson noted there are three vacancies on the Planning Commission if anyone is
interested.
9. Adjournment to Agenda Session
There being no further business before the Planning Commission, Chair Stevenson adjourned the
meeting at 9:57 p.m.
(The meeting immediately adjourned to the Agenda Session)
Respectfully submitted,
Jim Ericson
Community Development Director
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