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PROCEEDINGS OF THE MOUNDS VIEW PLANNING COMMISSION
CITY OF MOUNDS VIEW
RAMSEY COUNTY, MINNESOTA
Regular Meeting
May 16, 2001
Mounds View City Hall
2401 Highway 10, Mounds View, MN 55112
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1. Call to Order
The meeting was called to order by Chair Stevenson at 7:00 p.m., May 16, 2001.
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2. Roll Call
Members Present: Commissioners Hegland, Stevenson, Miller, Johnson, Kaden, Zwirn, and
Scotch.
Members Absent: Commissioner Cerny.
Also Present: Community Development Director Ericson.
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Index to Minutes Page
Planning Case No. ZC01-001 2
Applicant: Ernie Gustafson
Location: 2525 County Road I
Staff Reports/Items of Information 5
Chairperson and Planning Commission Reports 6
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3. Approval of Minutes
a. April 18, 2001
MOTION/SECOND: Kaden/Miller. To Approve the April 18, 2001, Meeting Minutes as
Presented.
Ayes – 7 Nays – 0 Motion carried.
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4. Citizens Requests and Comments on Items Not on the Agenda
There were no resident comments on items not on the agenda.
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5. Planning Case No. ZC01-001
Community Development Director Ericson explained that Mr. Gustafson has requested a
rezoning of his property located along Long Lake Road and County Road I. Mr. Gustafson is
proposing to rezone the property to R-2 to allow for twin homes or duplexes. Mr. Gustafson
would also like to subdivide the lots in conjunction with the rezoning.
Director Ericson indicated that, in order to recommend approval of the rezoning, the Planning
Commission must find that the request meets the requirements of the Comprehensive Plan, is not
detrimental to the neighborhood, and does not adversely affect the adjoining properties. Director
Ericson then indicated that Staff feels Lots 2, 3, and 4 meet the requirements for R-2 zoning. He
further indicated that as there are only single family homes north of County Road I that Staff
feels R-2 zoning would be inappropriate.
Director Ericson referred to an exhibit he had provided showing another layout for the lots. He
then indicated that Staff’s recommendation for the layout of the lots limits the R-2 rezoning to
those lots fronting on County Road I which is consistent with existing uses.
Mr. Ernie Gustafson of 2525 County Road I reviewed for the Commission the plan he had
proposed for the configuration of the lots and the rezoning. He then indicated that he would
prefer that the Planning Commission approve the layout he had proposed rather than the one
drafted by Staff.
Commissioner Johnson inquired as to the depth of the lots as proposed by Staff.
Director Ericson indicated that the lots would remain at the current depth of 296 feet.
Director Ericson clarified that Staff is not indicating Mr. Gustafson’s plan is unacceptable but
felt that another scenario may work better.
Commissioner Johnson noted that Staff’s proposal is more consistent with the existing lots along
Long Lake Road.
Commissioner Hegland questioned whether Lot 3 would need to be as wide as is indicated or if
some property from Lot 3 could be used to make Lot 4 larger.
Director Ericson agreed that the lot line for Lot 4 could be moved over slightly but stated that
Mr. Gustafson’s house and garage are located on Lot 3, so it could only shift 10 feet or so.
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Commissioner Hegland inquired as to whether Mr. Gustafson intended to change the dimensions
of Lot 3.
Director Ericson indicated that Mr. Gustafson would like to stay in his home for the time being
but stated at some point he would like to be able to redevelop the lot into a duplex lot.
Commissioner Kaden stated he was against rezoning any of the property to R-2. He then stated
that, personally, he does not want to see any more R-2, R-3, or R-4 zoning in Mounds View as
he feels the City has its fair share of that type of housing.
Commissioner Johnson indicated he did not have a problem recommending approval of a rezone
for the lots on County Road I but stated he felt the lots on Long Lake Road should be left with R-
1 zoning.
Commissioner Miller stated that she did not feel leaving some land open would be a waste of
land as open space is important. She then stated she could support a recommendation to rezone
the lots on County Road I but would prefer to leave the lots along Long Lake Road as R-1
zoning.
Chair Stevenson indicated he felt the lots along County Road I should be rezoned to R-2 but
stated he felt it would be inappropriate to rezone the lots along Long Lake Road.
Commissioner Johnson clarified that R-2 zoning allows for twin homes or duplexes not the
higher density rental buildings that the City tends to have issues with. He then noted he
preferred Staff’s proposal for the layout of the lots over the one Mr. Gustafson had proposed.
Mr. Gustafson indicated that the reason he drew the plan the way he did is to maximize the
number of duplex lots he could get out of the property. He then indicated that developers would
prefer to build multi-family housing than single family houses as they make more money. He
further indicated that he feels with his scenario he will get the most money for his property.
Commissioner Johnson stated that he agreed with Mr. Gustafson that the land is valuable but
disagreed that there would be much of a price difference from R-1 zoned lots to R-2 zoned lots.
Commissioner Hegland stated that he felt the large single family lots on Long Lake Road would
be more valuable than duplex lots. He then noted the lots are large and he would like to see that
continue as he feels it is an asset to the community.
Mr. Gustafson stated he did not feel any developer would give him as much money for a single-
family lot as they would for a duplex lot. He further stated that the economics are against the
builder when you consider the cost of putting up a single-family house versus a multi-family
building.
Commissioner Johnson stated he has seen developers purchase homes in Mounds View, tear
them down, and build a new larger house on the lot. He then indicated he did not feel residents
want to see duplex lots on Long Lake Road.
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Chair Stevenson inquired as to the typical depth of duplex lots on County Road I.
Director Ericson indicated that duplex lots are typically 110 feet deep. He then indicated there is
not a lot of room on the duplex lots but indicated the lots meet the minimum requirements and
would allow for the larger lots on Long Lake Road.
Chair Stevenson indicated he had concerns with creating more 75-foot single-family lots and
stated he would like to see Lots 1 and 2 a little larger.
Director Ericson indicated the lot lines could be changed slightly but stated the widest the lots
would be is 80 feet, which would leave the R-2 lots 125 feet deep.
Commissioner Hegland suggested that Lots 3 and 4 be looked at to see if the layout could be
changed slightly.
Director Ericson indicated that the dividing line of Lots 3 and 4 could be determined at a later
point.
Chair Stevenson asked Director Ericson how far the Planning Commission needed to take this
matter at this meeting.
Director Ericson indicated the purpose of this meeting was to discuss the request and stated Staff
is not looking for specific direction at this time. He then indicated the public hearing will be
noticed for the next meeting.
Commissioner Zwirn indicated the general direction for Mr. Gustafson should be to work out
whatever he can on County Road I as that will be the only property the Planning Commission
would consider rezoning to R-2.
Commissioner Scotch told Mr. Gustafson she felt developers would be willing to pay him the
same amount of money with the City’s proposal versus the proposal he had submitted.
Mr. Gustafson indicated he did not think people would want to build big, fancy houses next to
little houses on little lots.
Commissioner Scotch stated that it is virtually impossible to find a single-family lot in Ramsey
County. She further stated that she feels Mounds View is lucky to have lots available.
Mr. Gustafson indicated that his property is in a prime location, which should add to the value of
the land.
Chair Stevenson told Mr. Gustafson he need not worry about putting new large houses next to
smaller homes as there are instances of that taking place throughout the City.
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Commissioner Hegland indicated that a lot of residents are adding onto their homes to enlarge
them as well.
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6. Staff Reports
a. Previous Council Action
Community Development Director Ericson reported Council had heard the first reading of the
Sign Code Ordinance. He further indicated that the final reading would be May 29, 2001.
Director Ericson reported that Council approved the Redfield minor subdivision and approved
the vacation ordinance.
Director Ericson indicated the EDA had approved the purchase of a home located at 3016
County Road H2. He indicated that the property is located in an area of very large lots and the
property is one and a half (1 ½) acres. He further indicated the City owns two adjacent lots and
the long-term plan has always been to redevelop the area into a new subdivision.
Director Ericson updated the Planning Commission on the Pinewood Elementary School
expansion and stated that there was a safety meeting to discuss the issues residents have with the
school. He indicated that there was a lot of discussion concerning the loss of trees. He then
explained that those trees were proposed to be taken out but the representative from Perkins &
Will misspoke and indicated the reconfiguration of the parking lot would mean that only one tree
would be lost. He also noted that Council had requested a representative from Perkins & Will
attend the next Council meeting to explain the error and a representative from Perkins & Will has
agreed to attend the next Council meeting.
b. Upcoming Planning Cases
Community Development Director Ericson indicated that the Planning Commission will be
reviewing a rezoning request for 2625 Highway 10 as the Mounds View Animal Hospital has
purchased the property to build a freestanding animal hospital. He then indicated it was always
the intention of the City to rezone the property to commercial but it has not been done. He also
indicated that a conditional use permit will be needed.
Director Ericson indicated the Planning Commission will be reviewing an application for a major
subdivision called Longview Estates which is a piece of land owned by the Harstads. He noted
the developer is holding a meeting to discuss the development with area residents on May 22,
2001. He also stated he planned on attending the meeting and asked Commissioners to notify
him if they planned on attending, because if five or more Commissioners attended, there would
be a quorum and he would have to post a notice.
Commissioner Kaden indicated that on the plans it looked like there are some lots almost all the
way in the wetland.
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Director Ericson indicated the map shows the wetlands as determined in the 1970s. He then
indicated that Rice Creek Watershed District would be determining what needs to be done
concerning the wetlands on the site.
Commissioner Hegland questioned where the developer intended to mitigate land for the wetland
to be filled in.
Director Ericson indicated that, according to the delineation, there is sufficient space on the other
side of the property where the outlot would be. He then indicated that Rice Creek Watershed
District would control how the wetlands are handled.
Commissioner Kaden expressed concern that Woodcrest Park and the area along Silver Lake
Road where there is frequently high water be looked at to make sure they are not flooded.
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7. Chairperson and Planning Commissioners’ Reports
None.
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8. Adjournment to Agenda Session
There being no further business before the Planning Commission, Chair Stevenson adjourned the
meeting at 7:55 p.m.
(The meeting immediately adjourned to the Agenda Session)
Respectfully submitted,
Jim Ericson
Community Development Director
Transcribed by:
Joan Lenzmeier
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