HomeMy WebLinkAbout1976-01-14 PC Minutes. MINUTE3 OF THE MOUAID3 VIfiW
PL.iNNINO COMMI99TON
/'`~ January 14, 1976
~ ) Tlae Mounds View Planning Commiaelon was oalled to order at the City
'' Nall by ite ohairpereon 9srbara Haaka st ~;g0 pm, on Wednesday,
January lh, 19q6. The followinR membere were present: Dc~,Maakaben,
Paul E'odor, Rohert Qlazer, Phyllis Blsnohard, aerald Foas, iiobert
ftoseman, Nanay Hurmeiste.r and DarCara Haake.
The minutes of the De<.ember 1~, 1975 meeting were unanimouelv
npProved. 8 ayea
ITEMS FOA CO;dSIDCRATION:
Patrlck R. Novalc, 8368 aroveland. t4lnor subdiviaion (2 lote).
MSP (6lazer-MaekaUen? ta take from the table the Patrl.ck N. Novak
minor subdivision. g ayge
Ms. Haake explained that thio wao a lot eplit requeeting the west part
of his lot be divided to make a weat lot of 75 feet x 150 feo~: and an .
eas; lot of 7; feet x 278,2 Peet. It waA tabled becauae there was a lot
eplit sauth of Mr. Nevak at 8346 Ornveland, ownad by Robert l~ruflodt,
whiah was 160 x iQ0 and 273.2 x 100, It was recorded at the County
as 150 x 100 snd 345'.2 x lOD, whinh was not the intention of the
Piannir~g Commission. A letter will be gaing Co N~r. Bruflodt etating
that his lot needa to be 180 feet, 6erald Foss atated that he felt
the Plc.nning Commisaion should try to maintsin aqual lct eplite for
better overell planning for the araa. Don Maokeben asked Mr. Novak
! what hia ob~eotions were to eplitting lt down the middle and he replled
~ it was because of his garden, ard further, no matter what 3e done it
could nevor ba c~qual an,yway. Nana,Y Surmeieter sUated t:rat ainee the
lo~ !e eubatandard anyway she thought it should go dcwn the mi~ale.
Delinar Ford eaid that if you have 80 teet going baok the ~ag le g~1ng
t~ be rhere regardlesa. No way to elim3r.ate St. Further, he stated
that h~ hae a st:ed in baak,with a foundation that would be affected.
M3P (Foss-Pedor) that we den,y Patrialc ft. Novek's request becauae I
think we ahould etay with the even baak lot lines and the split as
requeeted. , q Qya~
1 nay
Prtr. Novsk aekod what about Mr. Sruflodt~s lot2 aerald Foae etazad
that ehortly after that we agreod that we would try to maintein equsl
lot splits. Many people were requeeting unavan lot spiita arid it is
real2y for the overal], benei"its of the community not to do thie. Mr.
Novak atated thet 1f he eannot get 150 i'eet he woul.d like an oqual
aplit'.
MSP (Fnss-Burmei.aterj thnt wa reoommend io.~the [~ouncii ihat ti~ey ~rant
Patrick R. Novak~s lot split, the eas8 Sot being 75 x 216.b and the
west lot bei.ng 75 x 21.1.6. 8 ayes
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Delmar rord, 8378 aroveland, minor aubdiviaion (2 lots),
/~ MSP (Hlanahard-BUrmeistQr) to tal<e from the table the belmar Pord
t ~ minor auUdivision. 8 eYee
61•r. Ford withdrow his initiel requeot as b~ felt that this wus the
way it would have to be ep11Y..
NisP (Fedor-~lanohard) that we reaommend to the Counail that Chey approve
the minor eubdivlsion oP Delmer rord, oraatinE~ two icta, the eeat lot beinq
216 x?^ at~d 8he weet lot beinR 211 x ~0.
6 ayea
Janice hllchael, 8330 Oroveland Rd~, minor subdivision (2 lots).
Ms. Haake explainad that Jar.ice trtichael hae requ~oted a minor subdlvieion
of two lota, 100 x 211.6 on droveland, and 300 x 211.6 on Hnollwood.
f43P (4lazer-Mankeben} thaL• we recommend to the Counci.l thst they
epprove the requeet of JHnice idichao7. for e minor subdiviaion at
8330 6roveland Rfl., to oi~eate two lote ~ the enat ),ot beinP, S00 x 211.6
and the west lot bciing IQO x 211.6.
B ayes
Wayne R. Speczka, 769'v Qroveland A9., Minor nubdivision (2 lots).
Me. Haeke explatned thet this Sa a minor oubdivislon at 763R{ proveland
Ad. The existing lot io 265 x 228.3. 'Che request is to make twa
lots, north 78.5 x 228.3 8n~ aouth lot 86.5 x 228.3. This lot cannot
be split e9ually beaeune of nn existing garage. 8tay3ng 5 foet Trom
~"'°~ the garage with the split would produce Ywo lots of the ahove dimeneions.
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'""`~~ MSP (Mackeben-fions) that we reaommend to bhe Council ~hat the approve
the minor aubrlivielon and the varianae located at 7634 Orovelend ftd.,
with the north lot being 78.5 x 228.3 and ttre south lot beinR 86.5 x
ppg,g, 8 ayes
Roland W. Miller. Property involved 282b Highway 10, raquewtinR a
apecial uee permit, varianoe on setbaake, indoor tennie co~rt in R-3
zoning. Mr. t~iller le requesting a epeci'sl uee permit to b~aild an
indoor tennis court in R-3 zor.ing and requeats a variance on bhe aee-
backa. Mr. Tempeste w111 present tha matcer:
M^. iempesta etstad theC the 1lghting will go dirr.etly onto the oourt,
automstioAlly goSng out at an snpointed time decided by the msnugement.
They~ would he 15 faeb off ground on poets attaahed to the oourt itself.
'Chere would he no Flare whateoever. mhey hsve a liot of people in the
are~ that have approved this. 7'hey will tisve enough lattdsaaping to aatoh
and holfl the water. The building wi~l be ehenne],ed ~nto e~rviea road.
4+~u1d have to present a drainage plan to Riae Creek and Ramaey County,
The building would be 25 feet at the eave, 35 st tha peak. Ms. Burmeieter
stated that the ordinance goes 30, is tt necesesry to go to 3578111
MeMahon anawered that that Se only an ideal heiRht, but 30 feet is
~eaeible; mhe~~ coul~ exaavate 5 feet into th~ ground if it beoame
necessary. Ms. Burmeister inquired aoou~ t•}:n c~ura an~ Mr. MeMahon
replied that in St. Louis Park there are more p1ayS.nR betwaen 9;00 pm
and 6;00 am than daring the daq. 'i~e 11Ahte wou].d Ua nontrollod ineide
~ , tha building and Roland Miller would be the full time msnaP,er. 'ihe
~`,/ handbnil courts would be 20x20x~0 playing surfaca with thrP: walls,
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Paul b'edor eaid that when this ie put in we will probably have people
there during the n7.ght houre. Mr. MeNnhon replied that that is up
~ to tho city and tha ~ovarnin~ bad'.ca. It in fcnoibla thet it a~Sil be
~ attrsativa to the working people that cannot play $urinp, the day.
Th_ temperature in the building would be aet at 65 .
M~. Haake atated; You are going bo require a varianoe of 40 feet?
Mr. Tampesta repli.ed that the homes are ~0 feet off but their garages
are only 1J. However, everything w~uld come in the front dour. There
would be aisles aet along the aide to get to the bnek. Me. Burmeister
fi3kBd fitOU~ t~~a :onee outaide and wae told 1±~ wculd be a ehenqlinq fence
10 feeb h1gh.
Mr. Olazer seked what they will do with the snow and he waa ~old they
would aust pile iL•, neatly. There would be a fanca araund the parkinq
lot aleo but r.ot es high.
Nanoy Burmeister inquired about the lounge as to what kind oC facilities4
Mr, McMahon roplied that it could have multiple uae: nuraery, visitorr
and playera. Ms. Burmei~ter state~ further: If you have a lounge you
may have a lot of people there. How many would you eotimate7 Mr. 61eMahon
atated that tihey wou7.d not se1S anythi~g in bhe lounge.and it would
aerve 60•-80 people. Maybe ~ust a pop machine, etc. Realistically they
would not hava many peopYe during the day. t~~r. 07.azer aeked about
matchos snd tournnments and the reply wae thet thin was very poseible but
only for a two hour perioa. The traf.tic wauld be continuel.
tQe. Burmaister asked about faoilitiea for penple t<i we~oh these matahee
and Mr. MeMahon replied that yea, there would be bleacnere, eo perhaps
4 times a year there may be a parking problem. h1s. Burmeister stated that
this le on s highway with a~ide ehoulder--could cause all klnds of
,~~~ problema. They answered thst that certlinly was poasible. Mr. Tempeeta
' suggeatod common ehare parking with an ad~oininq lot. The Pak parking
''^-' lob Ss spproximetely the same s!..e ae oura would be and could hnndle
another 4U cars. Me. Haske stated that thie muet be a properly drawn
agreement filed wlth the other ordinauce requiremente. Mr. 6lazer
ment•ioned that if a curfew was set this would hamper business and Mr.
Tempesta etated bhat that would be up to the Council. If they aet
11:00 he could not aee any problAm. Ms. Haake statod that they would
get a better feelinq on this when the pubaic hearing was held.
Me. Bui~meis'ter inquired about the faoi~ig on the bui].ding anC Mr. Tempeata
replied that this was ~ust ~1arcliiLectural concept. They are contemplatinq
several on the market, possitly enameled ateel or concrete block. Tha
entire exterior would be finiehed off. The front would have eome gls~s
and break for decora.tion. Me. Burmeiater etnted that tho bac}~ ~hould
be treated as equallv as the front and Mr. Tempesta stated thaL that would
be getting into heavy costa. Some of the baked ur enantel buildingo nre
very ~ttreative. Perhape bhey could discuss ix with the ownere and
decorate the west side ae well, mhey further atated that their aign
would conform ta the ordinnnce becauae moat of tiheir businese would be
attraoted hy word of mouth. Ms. Hsake aeked what their choice of colors
cvas and ~4r. MoMahon replied off white wlth apsce paneling of a darker
eh~de.
Ms. Haake atat•ed thst bhe Planning Commisalon doesn~t want otrip commercial
development in tihia llietrict as it ia not in any way conelatent with
their pian for Mounds View. Me. BurmeSater mentioneA that thie is
an area that is almuat unuseable, we either have e.n aFsrtment there or
~ f a reoreational facility. There would be more people in an apartment
LJ building nnd a oonatant density would thue result.
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~ M1te. fiaake then enumerate~ the tollowinp,; The Plannlnp, Commiaeion likes
the onnaept of a reoreational !'uaility. With regard to satbnak
~ requiremento: would havfl to have s front yard varianoe of 5 feet From
, j the parkl.no l~t to thu lot 11ne, nnd 40 foot aetbeak varianoes on both
sideg of this buildinq. Mr. t4chfanon atated that 60 x 120 1~ re~ulntior.'e
ideal sltuatinn, cou1S shave but not 40 feot. Mr. Fedor eaid that if
it was an appealin~ typo of build~np he might go tor it. On the two
sides where you noed a 40 foot variance you arp ri~ht off somebody~e
dooratep. Mr. Tempeeta eaid that aa~ually th~y were 80 feet from
anybody~s home. ~
Ma. ttaake asked if evepyone was ready for a aonaeneus of opinion?
tdr. Rosoman etatod that an 80 foot varianoe ie an aetounding fi~ure
and I dor~~t go nlang with it. Mr. Faes i~quired a3 to whether they
had explored buying another 30 or 40 faxt from the neighbora. Me.
Burmoister replied that we are changinp, it on paper buC it !.e goinp, to
be the same. Mr. Foss saSd that we ara not glVinp, ae big 9 verlnnce.
t4r. Fedor stated that gnod screening on the buildinR that people would
not mind looking at would be a good idea. Mr. DicMahon~ seid that they
aauld make it to euit Che Commission'e taete. If thie ia a feator,
the peop2e couid aelecti t,heir own. Phyllis Blanchard etated that the
purpoae in the Planning Commisoion is to go by L•he or3lnanee rather
then peraonal preference on buildings. Ths ~rdinance ie what tiir P1annSnR
Commisaton should be concerned with. At the public hearing the neighbors
will meke the fin~l deciaion.
Mr. 3helquiat etated that he would like to have the diecusoion eontinue
ae the exterior and the aetbacks are equally as important before the
epecial use parmit can he granCed.
~-~ Ms. Haake asked lT ~.t were po~slble to make Che exterior wlth briok
on bhe ~ast and east sides and Mr. Tempesta ateted that he felt they
_.' could come in wibh a pioture that will appeal. We don~t wattt it tq look
like a warehouee either. Ma. Burmeiater atated thet they know whati we
vrant and it is up to them to uome up with aomethingtie wauld like,
bis. Haake explair.ed t7ia~ the heering wi11 have to involve people from
15U feet away, withir a two blook area. Mr. Tempesta eaid that t~e had
diecuased this pro~eat with Midweat Planning and it was euggeets3 to him
at thei: meeting many of the factors. Mr. Fqse eaid that thie io a
apecial type of building• If it were properly landscaped he would go '
along with the varianae. Phyllis 9lanahard atated ehe wae sgaineb an 80
foot varianae, but if iC oou2d be rationallzed. Me.6urmeiater asid eh~
couldn't give an answer. She ie stiil worried about the fAOt bhat it
is a large building dropped on a piece of land, bu4 the facility would be
an asset to the communiCy. Mr. 6lazer said he could not, go along with
the variance. Mr. Mackeben ataL•ed that it was exoell9nt utilizatlon of
land that has no other use, but cannot go along with a 10 foot setbsok.
Ms. Haake said, why even go to 20-2!i feot in our new ~rAinanoe. I would
itke to have the facillty there, but 11ke t,he 20-25 feet. If the buildihq
were dropped into the ground and build hills with evergreene, etc, it
could be attractive.
Roland N121er ntated that a number of people will have Y,o tear doWn
garages if we bulld 10 feet from everyone. Mr. Tempesta asked how
much time there was before the new coda ie a9opted and Me. Haake replied
7.n 6-$ months. t4r. Tempesta etated thst he could reapeot .heir
sltuation, but if we are talkinp, abouE .t0 or 15 feet it id e ahame.
But can understand the Cacti yau don't want to sst e preaedent.
Mr, t4111er state~ that we are Lalkinq about an expenae oT ~50,000--buying
~-~ double garages and the land.
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tAr. MoMahon had a suggEetion to ehange the raaquet ball e.ourta. If
it were rearranged and redesigned the layout--how mueh varianae do
!•~e hsve to live wiLh?
Me. Haake aeked if he aould ahave off 20 feeb tn aome within the aode.
61r. t~iuGt&hon aai3 ~:o. !'ett!~ you give me 5 feet?
Me. Haake eaid that the ldea of a varianoe goes againet me.
After coneiderable disouaeian a new oonoensus of opinien was aekad for:
Mr. Roasman; After all tihe disoussion T have deaided I would go down
to e 25 f'oot satback Lut that ie as far. We will be amending our oode
and it hasn't even been enacted. I,.a~it to sticl< by the aoflH.
Mr. Fona: I vrould go with tho vari~nae that they request. I think
this is probsbly one of the better uses for the land and an aseet to
the oommunity.
Me. Blenchard: We have to go with the code. For 80 feet I would have
to say no~ On t~~e new code of 20 .Ceet Y would lat them have a 10 foot
variance on the sidea. If you caz~ rationalize someth~ng ~hat ien't in
effeot.
Ms. Durmeist~r: I t,hink that we should etiok bo the oode. Dott~b think
we shauld ahsnge the lawe to fit Che situstion. Ruther atiak wi~h whati
we have got and 11ve with a 40 foot varience and thore is nof: muuh more
use for it except for apartmenta nnd we cahnot s'cand mo^e density.
I would give the'vai~iance because i.t ie a uniqve eituation.
Mr. FRdor: I would go with tho variance beceuse the new ordinanee is
oniy going to be 20-25 feet and i~ was C::e intent to keep the open apace
between the buildings. In thie aaea the open apaoe ie thera.
Mr. Mackebett: The Gommiselott ohanged thR sebbaaka to 20-25 ~o av modern,
anct we are not in m pusltxon at thia timQ to start mnking a~~ariance.
,--~. Mr. (ilaxer: AbatAtrl until Midweat Planning states wn~ther they feel
~ ,' tF,ia ia a har9ehip on the land.
`--' Ma. Haake: Would go along with what the new code says, 20-25 feet,
beesuse we wrote this and it le our duty to aixppor~ it. There are
4 ayee, 3 nos, 1 abstention. But no Cormal motion as yet. Regarding
C. i,n the Inepeator~e Report, Aren and building si.ze requiramenta. Thep
erP willing to lower ib sa they are not asking for a variance.
D. Off-atreet parki.n~ requiremente: have a legal document with the Pao
Company. Mr. TempQata eaid that Mi~weat Planning suggeabad 53 Pgrktng
apaces. 1'~ times the people playin~ in relatlcn to their nars.
Me. Surmeieter atated that she d1d not feel that 93 ~paces w111 be
enough (40 from Paa and their 53)•
1 E. Screening requ3rements: Ms. Haake atated they will go along with
( eome acreening a21 the way around exaept the portion that abuts the
Pae Building and ti~e driveway.
F. Lighting requiremento: Already discussed.
G. No],ae requirements: Ms. Haake atnted thaC Lhere shou2d ba eome
~ suggestion that there be limitations put on the outside pleying time.,
Mr. Mackeben said that ho could aee no problem as the handball court
will bu3'fer u lot of noise.
Mr. Fedor said 1f i~ goes 24 hours and there are complainba we will quickly
i find ouC.
I Mr. Fose: we must get input of the neighbora and not set a time now.
I Ms. Burmeister: We don~t lcnow what it is going to be like. Wa are not
1 in a poaition t~ set a tim?. Mr. (t~.azer sugqested compsring notes with
other communitios:
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Mr. D'laqk~ben etabed that he hse no etatus to base hia opinione on, but
the 24 hour tenniu courts seem to funotion very well,
~ ) NUTE TO 3TEVE from Mr. alazer: Qheok to sae ai~y problamK that other
communitiea have had with regard to outdoor tennia aourte with resper.L
ta lighting, noise, etc.
H& I; They will need,a full drainaFA map, eto. Will loae parkinp,
sp6oe by piling the enow "neatly11.
A motion wae madc by Oerald Foas Co recommend to the Counail that they
give a speoial uae permit to the properLy at 2828 Highway 10 to Aoland W.
Miller requeeting a 40 foat vnrianee on the east and west fc^ sideyard
netback, and n five ;oqt variance on the front yard setbaok and that we
grent them the varianee on the off atreet parking requiremente ao that
Chey wi~.l provide 53 epaces and will reaeive from thair ad~olninR
neighbor, the Pac Company, a ~oinC facilities parking axmangement. On
the sereening requirements we would add that they landscapo eround Cha
entire building except fQr the norL-h part whiah faces the ?ae SulldinR.
and that they orould also meet aur 1'encing requiremente. On bhe naiae '
requi.rements it will be continRent on tal.king wlth ad~oining neighbora
before vre reach a ftn~il dec'oion on rod~e eNez~aLiu:1 hoi.tr.s. T.he drainage
requiremante must paed through the Engineering Department, Rice Creek
Waterahed, and.othex appropriate age~m3ea. 'i'he exteri.or materials of
the bullding and landscapin~3 w111 all have to he approved by the
Planning Commiesion. The lighting would 'nave to conform with 1;he eode.
The reason the 40 faot variance was allowed was Uecause the exlating
~~ ordinance calls for 50 fopb stdeyard setbanke but in our nen~'p~e~3osed
~ or.•dinanoa the eideyard aetback will be either 20 or 25 feet, so thqt it
~ wi11 probably be only a 10 or 15 foot vari,ance from the naw sidcyard
aetibacks. Consideration was p;iven to the fact that th~ nearea*
residential housine was 9~ feet on the west and an apartmenC bui'lding Sa
GO faet on the east of the propoaeti building. This motinn was rsecor.ded
by Paul Fedor. R'ha motlo~i was defeated. 6 nays
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Mr. 6lazer atated Chat he had voted nay as bhere wae not enough
aetback an8 the parkin6 was 2nadequ~te.
Phyllio ~ilanchard voted nay b~cause under ou^ present zoning she could
caot vote for an 80 faot variance. Under the new vari.ance ehe wouZd
have gone along.
The next item nn Lhe agendq wes Mounda View Associatea. Proporty lnvolvec:
Mounds View Square Shopping Center, requeeting a v~.riance on a~.gn height.
Represanting Mounda View Shoppinp Center was Tom RuVelson. He requested
a variance on the sign helght of ~I feet. Tt Se presently 2(i and they
ere etskin~ for 35.
Ms. Haake told him that btounds View bhould be two words, It is goin~
t~~ have to be spelled cor_ectly on the aign.
Ms. Burmeiater asked the reaeon for the height change and Mr. Ruvelaon
re~lied thist hia firm designed the ehoppi»~5 conter, 81nce it Se used
for civic as well as commercial evenba there wan no practical way to
ad.varl:ise exeept through a reader board. So as not to create a hazard
we came up with the present deai;~t~. Bcaause the 41gn will be located
in the parking lot area we will have to raise the base up 3 feet. 'i'hus
1 ` St viould only be 6~3" whlch would create a vandalism problem (lettere
~/ stolen, etc.) They wauld like to have the reader board witt~ enauSh spaee
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on 1t and lette:~a large enouFh to read from Highwxy A0.
~"'"` i•ta. ~Ufllt°_~NE91' atated thau from thc Uase of the parking loL• to the
~ buttom of the aign could be 12 feet if' you Iuwerad thie to 27 rAeC,
°~ I£ that le the oase there So no vari~nae needed.
tlr. AuvPlAOn did agree thnt he would go with a 3i foot eign.
MSP (BUrmelater-ROSe) to den~r fhe varienee requeat of 4 feet of
h1ounde View Aesoaiates. B aYee
~ "Phe zin~i item on L•he agenda wsa Albert Hartinger. Property invoived:
~ Launehing Psd, 2375 iiighway 10, requestln~ s~azuni:tg frort ft-3 to A-g
i for bo:aling u11ey and parking lot. Arohitec?. 6ene Br&netrom preaented
I the following: TheyAa~e proposed a 32 bowll.ng lacucenter to the
Launching Pad and reque~t a rezonLng to accommodate additiansl parkin~.
I This has ~een approved as part of the aomprehenei.ve plan by the
MetropoliCan Councll and it wi11 uitimabely go to thi~. We are trying
tc gain time to get prngress itt effeat !'or fall leagues'. Last year
the gro~ect lupaed because of a matter of' f?ttancing.
Ms. Haake ateted that they would like to avoid any exita onto H2--
would like a rSng roa~i.
Mr. Hartinger replied that at one time there wae another entry, east
of what they have right now. IL• was given up but ib can bo taken
baok. They would put two entrancea on Highway 10. There nre presently
nn plano to put in any kind of game roome. With thoir type of operation
there would be doormen checking IA~s; heve ta ahow ID to get a drl.nk
~ ao well. The~ wouid get a drink through a waitreds or go into the
bnr and buy it for themselves.
~~ Mp. Burmciater inquired regarding tha eiding. Is this tha cam° ty^e
~ all the way around or ~ust deoorative on the front. Mr. Dale Magnusan,
i who was ulso preeent, oi' Qeorge F. Cook ConstruotSon Company, stated
~ Ghat• it would be the same on all four sides. Either a pattern blook
or a breaic face bloak, It would be vertical metal at the top. We
~, are 170 feet at tha b8ak, and 18y feet 2'acYng Righway 10, The new
i adciition itt 32,000 sq feet. Their sign would conform ~~'.:h the city's
j slgn ordinanc~.
~ Ma. Burtt~eibter stated that ~inae it i9 a square '~ox type of building
she wante aome interest 1n it. Mn. Hartinger replied that they nould
put the rsign on the building. Wi7.1. try to make it as attxac~ive ae
~ posaible.
The concensus of the Commission wse that they did not want a eign on
I bhe building.
Ma. Haake suggested planting close to the buSlding. This could be done
Uecause of the traffic stopper there to keep the care from hitting the
± bu.llding. Ma. Burmeister ew„gestin~ eliminating the parking at the
entrance way and creating something there.
i Mr. Magnuson said that if they could delete that parking, they would be
~ most willing to do so.
' Ms. Haake rRminded them of the drainsge problems.
Mr. Magnuson said that they had t¢lked to Ramaey County Water Shed &ncl
j Bannister and Si~ort. They wex~e very enaperative. 2'hey can evacuate
I the water in a number of different ways. There ie a storm aewer facility
near Ly and they ean ult7.mately connact with them.
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FurLher, he did not feel that the flre mar~hall would think they were putbir.~
the building ~n ~eopardy kith the aurb cut. Still ample aaceea to
/^1 the building~
~ ) Peul Fedor stated that tNey may be better off funneling pecple off on
Jackson rather th,sn quirtay beoauge on Quiua,v you have a scho~l.
Me. HRake inquired about lighting the parking ].ot.
Mr. Magnuson atated that the idea is to have no ahed of' the liqht. St
is a safety fnator. They will agree to whatever lighl: the aity reqviree.
Mr. Hartinger stated that they deleted the iaea of a coffe: ehop beaause
it may benome a kid~a hangout. PQ:^haps you cottld obtain a eandwiah
or cofPee in the bar ares but no oounter or anaak bar. They plan to
move the etage upatairs, but not touahing anything downetairs at a11.
Mr. Fedor aske3 f.r they had thouqht About the hours of operation on Eha
bowling a11e~t_
Mr. Nartinger thought the bowling alley wnuld knook off about midnight.
Me. Hgalce aeked where they were enc7osing the refuse.
Mr. Hartinger atated thet they have big aontainera they ~ust coma and
pick up.
Ms. Aurmaister said that we require them encloeed, perhepo wtth a
Re~lwood ferce.
Mr. Hartinger re~lied that thia would be no problem.
N9SP (Olazer-Roseman) the~t we recommend to the Counail to approve the
requeat of Albert Hartinger to rezone the proparty to the esst oP
2375 Highway 10 from R-3 Eo B-3. Thia property ia presently owned by ~
9~b Waste and measurae 26S feet x 315 feeb. 7'he P1Hn»ing Commiaeiop
feels ~hat before finai approval for his aito plan and building permlt ;
ia gi.ven that Mr. Rartinger again appenr beTore ~he Plnnning Oommle~+lon (
,.~ wibh hie fina7 plane and bhat theae followiii~ ocndition~ be mett t
r , 1. There be prov.telonA for twc entranbee end oxiCe on HSgF~x~ay ~
'.,..~~ 10 and only the esiating cut on H2. ;
2. That the lighting plan be submitted ~'or approvel.
3. For ssfety thnt the internai road eyetem by approved by
the Fires Marahsll.
4. That provioione be made for sdequato soroe~nin~ of retuee ~
containera. ~
5. There be plana for the outoide nenthetiae. +
6. There be submitted a dutailed draine~e plan. ~
9 ayes
MSP (BUrmeisber-Fedor7'th$t thQ meeting be ad,}aurne~l at 12s37 nm. i
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AeepooEfully eubmitted, ~
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wRnom
R ordSng Secretary
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