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PLANNINa COMMIS5ION
June 23, 197G
The Mounda Vie~~r Planning Commlaeion wae ca11~d to orcler at the C1ty
Iiall by its ohairpereon Barbara Haeke at 7t35 Pm on Wndnesday,
June 23, 1976. The followinp, members were present;: Phy111e Blanchard,
Paul Fedor, ~erald Foea, Pon Maokeben, Nancy Burmeiater, Darbara
FIaske. AbAent weret Robert alazer, Allen 7.epper nrid Robert Roeaman.
The minutes for the June 9, 1976, meeting were amended ae follows:
Page 4, 4th paragraph, 60h dentence, delete ti~e word "roads" and
insert in 21eu thereof the wurd "Lota", and on pa~e 6, gr8 pnragrrsph,
delete the words "and Mr. Fedor" and insert in lieu therea!' the
words "end t~is. nlattuharJ".
MSP that the minutes be approved as amended.
ITEMS b'OR CON52DERATSON
6'ayes
Larr Smie a: was not heard as nelther he nor hia represontative
spoeared.
W1lbert Johnson
roper.~ea': 6953 Ploasant View Arive
Variance (storege shed aq'footage requirements).
MSP (BUrmeletsr-Fedor) to ta4e from t:he table the Wilbert Johneon
varianae request that was tabled on June 9, 1976. 6 syes
Ms. Haake explained thut Mx•. Johnson is rr:queating a variance on
accessory building 1? x 18 feet. In March of 197? he asked £nr and
wae granted a variance for a 13•6 x 24 addition to his garage and
the O~mmiesion at that time felt that the garage aize would be adequate.
Further, the Commiasion has a hietory of not &1lowing this type of
varisnce requeat under those circumetances.
thSP (Mackeben-HUrmeister) to deny the requesU• of Wilbert Johneon,
6953 Pleaennt View Arive, for his variepce request to build an
aocesaor,y building 12 x 18. 6 ayea
24r. Maokeben ststed that the current garage is 17~ sq feet in exces3
of tha aurrent exiating ordinanee, whioh was recently 7,ncreased to
accommnaate iteme of this nature. T!;e atorage ehed was to be 72 sq feet
lsrger than the current ordinancc~indicatea and ioith an A Pont door
would create not a storaqe ahed, but in reality e aecond qaraqe, whic:~
ia in violation of the ordinence.
Mr. 0lazer arrived at 7:50 pm.
tdSP (Idackeben-BUrmeis*.er) that the regular meeting be ad~ourned
7 ayea
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Ms. Haake oalled to order at 8:50 pm the publia hearing fnr Comp~selon
~~ Christian Center.. Property Involvedt ~901 Red Oak Drive.
Special Use Permit (Idodification of Ooaupancy).
Ms. }{aake expltiined that the Compaseion Christian Center wnuld like
to have a statement inserted in their agroement whiah would read
as IV attaahed. Jamea Uairo epoxe for the Center, explninin~ the
oongregation, where L•hey came from and tah,y they are there, summnrized
ae tnllowo:
They began with Fome coun~elling but becnme too lar~e and docided,
as a amall grou~ ef people to buy a small ~hurch. They had an
an opportuni.ty to buy Abiding Snvior Luther~n Church and were ploased.
The firab yeui~ tha aiumber x,`,n camc •rrere up to 63, than 113, and last
year thay ware up to 140 p~oole in bheir Fiible clase. Congrep,atio~~
began to gro~e and they becnme interested in Christi.e.n education
so they contacteri Ralph Smeltrer, t•~ho .is a special education teucher
anrt knovre hnw t,~ work r:ith child.^en, and in *he fali of ZS'7~~ thoy
h¢d 32 children en.rolled in their day ochool. They had not inquired
as to whether they needed a permit. A year and a half a~o they wore
told to come in and predent their case ns to why they ahou2d httve a
special use permit. The Planning Commisaion and the Council con~idered
their requost app»opriate atld pranL•ed the permit. They have now
diecontinued L•heir nrintinp; ministry in accord vrlth the fire marsht~ll~a
instruction. They were told to put in a fire alarm e,yqtem, which they
f,,.~ did. At ttie time they were asked iiow big this would be snd we etated
~ ~ that we oould accommodate 60-~5 quPile wlzich they thought the school
.,~,,~ wauld grow to. They were vrrong. By the end ~f the lot school year
' thEre were 63 studer.ts. Theq became concerned. Beaoming coneerned
for hie daughUer~s Christian educabinn he enrolled her and thero were
already 75'Pupils enrolled and they wQre only allowed 75 pupila. l+fhat
ehould they do7 The couroe of action suggeeted was to hava themselvc3
released Ly the city limiting them to 75 atudr.nto a* any time. They
made a mietake and did not Eauge the growth correcbly. If they are
released they are asking that their day school 6e traated ao any other
day echool. They et~llad the fi.re marah¢11 and he stated, and aubsequently
wrote t~ the City Council, that the maximum number of' children that
ahould be allowed wae ~28. They are wi111ng to qbide by an5• iimita
of the et•ate buiZding cou:.~ and the rire code that may be Smposed. 328
is ~ust a teehnioal number 3o they added number IV (attached).
The elementary studente are there from Bs30 am to 2:30 ~m nnd the adult
B11zle dtudy p,roug meetings from 8:00 am to 12:10 pm.
fdr. Muckeben asked if~ they could always anticipate 1~10 in the Bible
class and Mr. Daire replied that this was difficult to say aa they
w;111 begin emphaeizin~ aotive ministry outside the building sa they
probebly would not have an inereaea ae th~y would be maybo one nonth
vrhen they would he ftWAV from the huilding, then in 3 months, then off
one month, etc.
Ralph Smeltzer indicated thst it wae not neceasarily poin~ to prow every
µ. year. The smallness is what Se ideal for them.
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' tdr, fdeakeben voioed hia aonaerno about the imE~aot ~n the neighborhood
~ and 1i7..llview Park that lo ueed for reQese. btr. Daire ntntod tiint h~
did not ant].aipate bhat they would enroli 3a8 pupiia.
:,eonard Truekoweki, 793a sunnyside Rd, , etated that he we~b horrified
at tho prospeat of 32~ ahiidren let laone without any supervision.
tie lives behind titiem end hae lived through thie. 3?8 ohildren walkinp,
from the ahurah to the play Pround. I~r. Daire etated "With supervioion",
and tqr. Trus4coweki aontinued: I don~t know that theoe children are
headed for the playEroiand--I dnn't know where they are headed. He
would Sike to impreau thie figurQ,of 328 on everyo:~e, and reaommended
Ghnb a doTirrite TiPure Ue set~ not 328.
Me, Haeke aoked if he had exrerienaed any probleme w.ith the achool
and he replied: they have an exuberaht conp,re~ation.
14r, Daire stated that L•he polloe department stated t:~aC they had no
acmplaints.
Mr. Truekoweki stated that a aommiCtee from the church came around
anfl aaked if there were any compl~inte, and afber that all hell broke
1,oose. Then after the hearing no~ice wua received bhings alowed doum.
M2~. DHiz•e poLrte3 cut• thet a~hc+ol wan aut for~the sumtiner.
6tr. Truskawski aontinued: Alan the ahurch servioe~. 7'hey ~o ci~
all houro, day and n1.ght. He doean~t know what ia going an or'e: there,
but they do hold n~isy servioes. He inquired ae to their religious
affiliation and Mr. Aaire replied that they are Christians, non-
den~minational, not affiliaced with cviyone.
Mr. Truskowski saked why he is forced to attend their aervlces out of
^ hia own tiack yard. When the Tnatheran church was there before they
~`VJ had a congregation twice,as bi6 and they never had a Froblem, fte
then asked if thoy plenned the building to be used as e halfway houee7
Mr. Dairs replied '~No, sir.°
Mr, Truekowski asked why it was necessary to hold services ttrice a
Yraek end Mr. Dn1re rpplied that they hnld them 3 times ~ Weak.;
r,hey meet Sunday morning, Sunday evening and Thur~rday evenlnp;. ilothing
else is regular.
Dis, Haake SnquirRd ao to how late thoy run in tho evening and 'Nr. Daire
rep].icd 1~:d0 to 10:g0. Thay r~tax~t et ~.00 - ~,45.
Mr, Yiaalce asked 1£ thie were r,~ntained within the bui].ding and he
replied that ao they havo no air-conditioninp, in the aummer the windowe
are open.
Mr. Fedor aeked 1f they were held later than that und tdr, Truekowski
atated; the anawer ie ln the ttffirmative. Clappina and etnging,
fuot stomping, ap la~e as 1}:30. Then when they leave i.t bnkea an
hour to break up, That ia thc adulto~•-the te»hu~ere are-eVen worsn.
Mr. Auire stated that the teenagers are Saturday even7ng and they break
up about 9:00, This only began in tho last month.
Mr. Truskowakl 3tated that he r~c~mmende to the committee th¢t a time
be imposed inaufnr nn tho gntho:•in~e nt the "church° ere copcerner~.
Alao before the City Counail hearin~ he would like to see en itiner¢x•y
from the Centor on nll goinga on and what ia planned for th9 yenr,
with set times, atc. Thia shauld be fuxnished to the oommittee and
he v~ou7.~ also ].ike a copy.
,,,,,,,, Idr. Daire told him thst thi.s was avuilable at the churflh offioe.
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' blr. Truakowski atated that he doas nat know vihere that i~ Leaauee he
hsa tried to voice his enmplainte with them and nabody kn~tas anythinp,.
lie then asked where the maJority oP his oongreqat3on Sived.
,~~ Mr. Dsire stated that it is a metropolltan aongrAgation and id from
all over the aity.
Mr. Truekowski stated that he would lilce to ^ecommetid to the cammittee
that they not OK on tha oacupanoy limit as they do not have the
faaa.lit7.ea or the oupervision. If thcy are poing to use ad~aoent play-
grounda rea~~mmend they have a bue or oomethSng to Pot the ahildren
off the etreet. The ma,~oriby of the ohildren, p,oing to H111view for
reoeam, come and go into the parking lot and raide aain at all
hours nf the day and night, running through people~s gardens and ya:~ds.
Vern Negio, 7954 3unnyeide Rd. also stuted that they run through people's
yarde with no adult eupervieion.
Mr. Jotinsan, corttor of Sunnyaide and Hf.11v1ew, stated that h~ has been
watching the children go down to the playgrnuhd and they are supervieed,
they walk hand Sn hend, and are very quiet. Thin ie around noon,
when they take thoir Sus;c'r. break
Mr. Negis etated that he seea them in the mornir.~ rsnd afternoon.
Seven crawled over L•he fence on Sundsy when ohurch servi,es were held.
Jaok Coony, ~940 3unnyside, sta~ad that he ha~ only lived in the
neigtbonc~od for a week but has a question ahout the number of people
Lnvolved: ie that 328 elementary school children or is that oecupancy?
Mr. Mackeben replied thaC that wae oacupancy. Tha di£ference 3A what
~^""~ is being aeked for approval.
~"''~l Mr. Aaire explai.ned that the way the epeclal usa permit reads now is
tht~t there ie a ceilin~ oP 75• They are not ehaZlong'_n~ itt ter.ms,
of oocupancy, they are trying to take the lid bff the ocoupancy
aocording to atate and local lrxwa. Thair coneern 1e the fixed ceiling.
They do noC mind regulatlons if they are reasonable and equitable
tiut they would like to be deslt with in terms of occupancy.
Mr. Mackeben atated that the limit was put on because of the utilizatinn
of a publie playground by a private schoal. There ia &n enormoua
differenae between 75 ae against 3za•
Mr. Dsire replied that he ie not challenging that. ?'hey ~uot want
something moro ot~~ective that hae reason to it. The,y are nct saying
that they shouiQ not be limitod.
Me. Hurrtiel~ster ebatefl that the ~tate code is 15 sq feet per at+~dent,
but the Mounds V1ew Sahool Distrlct reguires 25-3n feet. That ehould
be tho rule of th~tmb.
fdr. Daire replled bhaC 1C t1~at sq foot limitation ig impoacd on Red Oak
School they will accept it also,
Mr. Pedor dtated ~hat he did not feel bhat in the Commiealon'a poeition
they should acCually restrict the r~qure footage--we are considering
mo^e in terme of the neighborhood iteelf. What we have is s small
area and it io going t~ disrupt the neighborhood. There ahould be mnre
open space for them.
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. P^,r. Fona aeked l~~ow many elaen room~i the,y have and what ia their anp~citv?
Prtr. Daire rn~lied two large olano ronms in the contera and nraund
,P"~ the out5lde ef thin there are 10 roomo alsc used. ThQy keep the
~ ,a children in the largor roome and uoe tP~e emaller roomn for opecittl
"' olassee, with about 30 etudento in eaoh one.
Mr. Fos4 askod if the enrollment oraa ohangeft, how wot~ld thoy be
accommodnted7 Pdr. Bmeltzer replied 'chat rhay would uae aome of
the tutorinE rooma.
i~i^, roea ssked iC they nlso t~ave additional apaae for tha fldults
and Mr. Smeltzer ronliod that the aduite une the down3tairs, the
ahildren are uE~otnira, The only wa,v they Qnn ndd more elamentary
etudento ie to take anme of the do~r~n 3tairv aren.
Mr. Daire axpiained that downetniro they havo a]orp,e olaseroom,
with notentially two classroomo on either eido that would houae 3~-35
adulte and. in the center ebout 125•
Mr. 5moltzer stated that it ia poaeibla tl~ey will add some etadents
but he oannot picture them going over 1G0-120 eind mo~t their needs,
depepoing on what happene to the Aible eahool.
Mr. hlackeben atnted tiiat what the iaeue is, in whnt wil.l tha impaot
be on the neighborhood. '"he building was for a churoh nnd wo grsntad
a use For a school--what .ui11 happen aftor that7 Can we expnnd it7
Mr. b'eaor `J~,Sf:Ct1 Y.llot hc ~'el~ thE ~cAy issue waa--how muaM can the
grounds hsndle for that number of nhildren7 You do not really hnvn
enough room for them now.
Mrs. Nora Andluden, 79aa Sunnyside~ asked why they don~t use t;he
parking lotR
r,.~-~ Mr. Dait~e replied that that la a poanibill.ty but the~ have Eo me~intain
~ 1 ground oover bher4.
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tdr. Truskowski brought up again the classroorns--at one L•ime they were
uaed for aborage and offiaes?
Mr. Daire replied that at one L•ime we had the northeast alas~room
being uead for guests to stay overnight, and another of the rooms ie
now being ueed as part.of the tape miniatry, down etaire on Lhe east
aide they had paper storage when they had the printing minietry
operating, and tha large classroom was ihe printing ahop, One room
in the far north ie being ueed ae a library.
Mr. Truskowaki aaid theee small rooma you are pointing out as
classrooms are noC claearoome thrn, He! sRain recommended that they
nat be allowed to bui2d on at an;J time.
Mr. ~meltzer stated thxt tho number of clnasraome were not inoluded
in tha rocma that Mr. TrusknGaski is talkinq about,
Steve Roae stated that the rooma themeelves all mr~et sCate clanarcom
requiremenbe.
Ma, liaake aeked what is the aq footage of tha totsl lot and Mr: ??aoe
replied 200 x 231.
Ms. Blanahard askad him 1c he hae mcra children coming in how wou].d
they arrive, by bus, private automob4les? What are the parking
. faoilities?
Mr. Duire replJ.ed thst right now 50~ are buaed. The other 50~ ers
brought by parent~s cat~s or car pool situationa. The buses stey
'~~~, through the day and they do meet requiremen~e on parking for the zonin~
~~ code.
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• t4r. Truakowaki otated that bhere is as miioh conp,eetion on the atrePt
as there is in Uhe ~arlsin~ lot. The ver,y reason that we are h2re
~ today is tl~e renson the Luther.an ahut•ch moved--thay didn~t have room.
14n. Burmeieter aeked ~f the parkinR lot aanommodate3 all the o$ra
in tha evening.
Mr. Da1rR replied that he hus ahecked out parking epaaes and there
were aome left but people were stia.l parking on the street. They
do not litco it, and have inetruuted the members of the congrogation
not to. The raoponsibility for pa2lcing the parkinA on the eCrret
is the paliue.
bir. Foss ineerted that park3ng is alwnys tough--tho same holds true
for Red Oak Sahonl.
Mr. Truakowski stated that he ia still aoncerned g~ a neighhor.
~ It is aongested now. If you can~t police the adults, how will you
poliee the ch3ldren?
t4s. Burmeister stated that whan AUiding Suvior was there it wne the
bame Ching.
Mr. Truekowaki atated that that is why Abiding Savior moved out--
no rnom,
Pqs. Andluden stated that she Pelt that there should be a top limit.
Mr. Mackeben asked her if the children dietu,~oed hor?
D;s. Andluden replied ttiat they only go over the carner of her Zct,
and have not bothared them very much. However, it might be bad
if there were twice as many. F~ut thoy ~re ~cnorally surerv].sed.
Mr. Coony etated that rr.any sahools have property and then maybe a
road--thera are phys3cal pr~blemo there.
Mr. hlackeben asked him what would his reaction be as s neighbor iS
~ St woru Sncreased?
:4r. Coony replled that had he known that oonaldersL•ion was being
given toward expanaion it may have affected his decision to move.
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Mr. Daire atated, that to aummarize, what they have placed before the i
~ommiseion is not final. We want t~ be regulated 1n the same way ~
othere are rogulaCed. Under present conaideration is the revision
of th~ wording in Section IV and we orill go on from there anQ plaao
reaeonable regulations.
Ms. Haake asked if it cvere requeated that you nave,playground equ7pment
put in +~nd put some i"ence around that area, would you do that7
Mr.. Daire replied that one option would be that the Bihle School
would be diep?aced. Thaq the parking Chat the students are now
ooaupying wuuld be vaoatod. That would provide a who].e area for play
spaca. fleoauso of the due.t prob2em we 'at~e puCtinE monay aside to
pav~ thaL now. ~
~4r. Truskowakl coneedad thut for aound abntement bl.ceictoppi~g would ,
certainly be an improvement. He asked what they Sntend to do w].th ~
the snow? You have been pi11nS it in my bactcyard. {
Mr. Deiro replied L•hat that ics rs consideratlon that the Planning ~
Commission would address.
iNe. Haeke stat•e3 bhat the problama aeeM to be the ahildren and the ;
late haurs--maybe there should be apeoified houxe. j
Mr. Daire replied that Chey are ~ust asking thst they be treated 11ke i
any other Taailit•y in the community. He Poele Chat it is good that i
Mr. Truskowski rnised these ~notcera, but if he S3 having pro6lema
with disturbinq of the pexce, he ahou2d complain to the police department.;
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' tda, Haake aske~l for further a~mmants tr•om the Commiasion.
~ Mr. Ptaakeben stated that he is coneerned that the buildir.;; wao not
deaigned oxiginally for an elementary or seoondary school and thay du
not h¢ve adequate playground facilitiea, etc. The reaeon they
went tn 75 wae beesuae Hillview wRS betn~5 u~ed for recese aotivi.tiea.
He would be relaotant to inarease 1;!-~~~t, kSut he has heard so mnny
good commenta on the school he would hato co not allow them to groto.
He felt tha~ they had a good representation from the r~eighborhood
ae to what ie happGning. He d.oesn~t know whttt they ahou],d do at this
point.
14r. Fedor stated that Mr. htaakeben covered hio thoughte, too. They
have an exaellent scriool and ib is an asset ~o Bhe aommunity. But ar.
inarease would be too qreat an impact for tne area.
tdr. Olazer etated that he thi.nks the aativitl.as are very worthwhile
but ha would vote no on it. This increase is inc~nslstent with the
aingle family nei~rhbarhood and peaor. and quieti ia deteriorating very
repldiy.
~4s. Burmeiater atated that she, too, ie concerned with tl~e impaat.
She could~along with an increase, very limit•ed For a few more. 25 or
3Q more atudents would n~t make that much difference. The trian~l.e
would also be incorporated inCo a play area.
Ne. Blanc:~ard atated that we could inorease it maybe 25-30 etudents.
But there would have to ue aur~ie rngulationa aet d.own se to whe~ goes
on outei3o the building, busing to parke, etc. and a Simit on the
evening services.-
e~Ir, Fos~ stated that he feels the seune raay. With the children ~roperly
,,~°~ supervloed to the piaygrounds, it meet~ tt:e req~iZz~ementa of tha stete.
~~ He ie in favor of lifting the elementary students to approximaCely
120 students, with the underatandi.ng that they would not hold any
lata evening serviaes to diarupt the neighbora.
Mr. Truskowski stated that when he moved into the area the ch~xrch wns
tl:ere and he felt it was an aeset end it made him feel safer. This
change is a draetia ehanp,e for the short length oF time that the Center
hac been there.
Mr. Fosm otated that the purpose of the CPnter ia to improve people'r~.
livas.
MSP (flurmeieter~-Blanehard) that wc deny Compaeaion Ohx~istian Center
the requeet that tho oacupanay of the eduentinnal atructure shq11 be
regulated by the applicable etandards af tha atabe buildln~; code aa
applie~ to elementary and secondary achnu2s, appllcable regulati.ons
of the state 1'ire marstirsll, and other euch reasonable regulations ae
m3/ ba deemed neceasary by the city of fdounds View Yox~ tha proteation
of the health, safety and vrelfare of the occu~ants, and whioh
reP,ulatlone are genorally applicable to aehools of this type in the
city af t+lounds View. Thie, wou7.d increase the enro].lment poseibilities
to 32d and ~ince it is not built as an elementary achool ib does not
have bhe facllities for the studenta as far as open space end this
may create an undesirable impact on the neiphborhond viitir that many
poasible atudents Sn the school, 6 ayes
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Counailmnn Shelyqisb stated that bhe City ACtorney advised the
Counnil that einoe ~he original opecial uee permit wa~ granted afCer
a public hearing there has to be a public hearin~ set to ehanae
'"'~~ it and thls is set for thia f4onday evening. Further, he wants
the minutes by Friday nf this week Por th<~ Counail me~ting.
Ms, Burr.telster aeked A1r. D¢ire if he would be willing to ra3se this
to lOQ and he replied that his nresenae is not to make compromises
but to disouss the petition.
MSP (Dlanahard-i'edor) tn ad,~our~n the public hoarinp, at n:45 pm. ~ ayea
The regular meetin6 of the Planning Comminsion wae reconvened.
~Dalb~er,_'~a 9unn ~side Eata~te~s ~
roY~perty Ii~volved: 8419 Oroveland Rd
Ma~or subdivision (2 lots i.nto 6j
Preliminary F1aY Recomtnendation.
Me. Haake stated tha~ the minubes of May 12, 19q6, ~ive xheir
reoommendations a.nd only a motion ia needed.
M8° {Foas-Mackeben) that we reconvnend Co the Council that they
approve nalberg's Sunnyaide Esbates, 0419 Gr~velnnQ Rosd, maJor
subdivislon, cont2ngent upon removing the ooncrete slab on Lot 3
bei'ore ihe finsl ~,lat is app:ove:~, secord?n~ to the px-911minary pla~
/"~ dated June 14, 1976. 7 ayea
~..~) !'harlea Hermann
F'roper~y Znvolve3: 8~50 Long Lake Road
Ma~or eubdivision.(1 lot into 4}
Prellminary Plnt Recouunendationa
Ms. Haake stated that they h3ve. before tham T1r. Hermann~s preliminary
p].at dated June '~, 1976, and that P1r. Nermann nor hi~ represer.tstive
appsered,' Tn reviewing tha plab whioly in exactly a5,the dketch
plan was when it was presented to thc P1anning Coinmission cn May 2F,
197b, the Planning Commiesion wrauld like the Councl7. to adhare to
the reoommend'ations that wero made in 9:he 9ommiesion~s motion uf
May 26, 197G. 'PAr. Hermann'a argument that the ehed i;hat 3s on a
aonorete slab on hia east lot would have to be removed on a.n equ&1
1 loC split ia Sncorrenx. In reviewi.ng the preliminnry plat it indioatea
that mith an equal lot aplit he wt.ll not lose the bulldinP that is
on the conarote slab. t1r. Hermann~s other argument that,hie garden
i would be lost nn an equal lot split is also inaccurate--it wcu).3 nlc+o
i be parti411y last on the unequal lot sp1iC h~ requesf;e9. F'or t,he
i minutes and convenieneQ of the Council Ms. Haake re-read the motion
I` into tonight's minutes that was originelly made on t4ay 26, 19y6.
i t4SP (B1t;nchard-FoaR) that we recommen9 tu tkae Counail that, in Eoing
~ with our policy of equal Iat sp11L•s and seeing no herdship in this case,
that they deny the petition of Charles fiermann, 6360 Long I,[~ke Road,
, "'", for a ma~or subdivision. That motion pesaed Uy 6 ayes,
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W. G. Rosen gu.__i_s_~t
rop~ orty~3nvo~.~ied: 8380 3pring Laka Rosd
Ma~or subdivisicn (2 lotn into G)
~`'~' Prpl±minary Plat Rocoi^mendation
Steve Rose stated chat tn reviewirtg the applinant~s files he found
that Ehey had been issued a permit for a~arage 28 x 26. Sinoe then
they have put on an addition extending aoroea the property line.
Outlot B ahould have the +stipulation that it ia not a bUildatle
lot. Further, the atsff reoommenda bhat Che ehed additian to the
garage be removed as tha shed and qarngc combine to make 113~ eq feet.
MSP (Blsnahard-Fosa) to remove the W. E. Rosenquiat meCter from
the t8ble. ~ ayes
D1r. Aose aleo sald that OuL•lot A will be purchased by thc Aaughter,
and thAt the Councll i.s aoncerned about the ~unk an4 debria in the
community and St should be noted that trer~ is at least one ~unk
vehiale there.
MSP (Fosa-alazer) to recommend to the Cauncil Chat they approve
the W. E. ftoaenquist maJnr subdiviaion at 8380 3pring Lake Road,
wlth the notation that Outlots A& B are not buildable lota at thie
time. 7 ayes
~^-~ Nancy Hurmeiater added that tl~is Oub1oL• A ia to be p??rQhased
( '' as aonn as the lota are apli.t or'reoorded and that staff has given
~~--~ the Plflnning Commisaion the infox~nat:ion that the addition on hie
28 x 26 garage is 7.n violation since there was no building permit
issued for it.
LeP.o J~naon
~roper y Znvoived: 8335 Spr•ing Lake Ftoad
Ma~or subdivi.sion ( 1 lot into 3)
Preliminary Plat Reoommendations:
Ms. Haake stated that the parcel is bounded by new P1.eaeant View Drive
an the weab and Spring Lake Road on the e~at. The wi.dth,dimeasions
an Spring T,ake fload are 17+1.68 and the rtidth dlmensions on Pleaeant
View Drive are 136.3z x 350. Mr. Johnson wauld liRe tq make tfiree
lots, the eaet Iot facl.ng Spring Lake Road will be approximately,
].75 X~15; and two 7.ots vrill be dcvelcged on the west, ~aoh lot being
88.16 x 135.
MSP (Burmeister-Blanehard) to recommond to the Cnuncii that they
aCProve the preliminary plat af LeRoy Johnsort at 833ti Spring Lako Roed,
dated June, 197~, dlmensions as stated above, and with the atipulation
that Che playl~ouse that ia on Lob 1 be removed before fine2 approval
ia given. 6 ayes
O7.szer - 1 abat.
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A1 Petron
Yrro'pe- r~y Znrnlvod: 2;'O9 Woodale Drive
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Minor aubdiviaion (1 Sot into 2)
t4s. Haaka atated that the exiating lot ia 253 and the eaet line Ss
100 feet wida. Mr. Petron~a requeat is for bwo lot~ makinq a west
lot, whiah will be on the west lot line, 100 feet snd on the south
lo*, line 100 feet) the eaot lot gouth lot line will be 143 and
tha osat; 17.ne tiri 1,], re 100.
MSP CF'edor-DUrmeister) that we reoommen3 to the Counail that they
approve the minor eubdivision request of A1 Petron, 2909 lJood.a,le ~rive,
creatir.g two lot•s Afl stabed above. The petlUioner aPrees that the
exiating garage will be ramoved and that the aoncrete slab ucider
the garage will be rQmoved trom a meaeurement of five feet from,the
new lot lines. 7 ayea
Charlea Debts
Propert~y ~lved: 8315 Red Oak Drive
Minor subdivieion (1 lot• into 2)
Ren S,jodln re~resented Mr. Betts. The exieting di.rensi.ona are
4?2 x 101 H!ide. Tb ia bordered on the west by Red Oak Dri~e
and on the east by 9unnyside Road. The requeat is for two lote: the
east and weat lot being equal, eaoh one being 101 x 236.
~~ Steve Rose stated that the ob'ect ia to stay where we have exieting
eaeements, and in thie case bhe etaff doee not want an ~'equal"
split. The rear line should be looated 2U6.5 from Red Oalc street
easement. Thia will luaate the line in the center oT an exi.etSng "
10,~Y.essement .
MSP (alazer-Fedor) that we recommend to the Counoil that they approve
thP minor subdivlsion of Charles Bett.s, involvin~ the property at
Q315 Red Oek Dri~re. This lot eplit will create two equal ].ots,
each being 236.5 x 101.25, as measured from the right of way of Red
Oak Drive and Sunnyside Road. (Note: the utility easement will be
t~tally on the daet lot).
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M3P (Mackeber~-•Fedor) to ad~ourn at 11:10 pm.
Respectfully 3uhmitted,
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3l01 ~g!-lray 30
llawds Vlew, 1tN 66119 ,
BUBJSCT: Rmypceat !or mod1Slcation a! Bpeclat lieo PespaSt,
. Compasatoa C'hrleqiw Ce~+r
Da~r Ma. Jc~on, MomOere of t9e Citq Couacfi:
Ths basd ~ad con$regatiaA at Cam-paae4aa Lhrietlan Ceater 6sreby seqnest
tlae ~aailiicntlaa- cd 1fi4 Bpoclad Uae 1~er-ct! Agreemamt dated 19 Bebreierq
1976 tr~towsen tbs C!!y at Mauicle Yie~v andl Compa~+eian ~~ti,~tt Cenifsr to
aead as tollo~ae:
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~"Yi~m oce~9. aB the mducxttwm,it ateucture e~e1t bre iletflsi la
eer ares~a Oi~s `7i arPaiisi ~1oae~6eag ot ~~spdavgt s4w6su0a ~C
aiy ~~ tSnns RE(itJI+ATED 7~!'Y~E AFPL~g~AS~,E ~TllfidDA,XtitB
I~ Q~' THT STATB HtmLDY1JSi COD~ AS A~]Pb3E8 ~ 8L~A46N'~ARY
'"'""~ AND BECONDAR'!'9CHO~I.9~ AFPLYC~iBY.8 REdUE.ATi02~19 t7P ~'~E
BTAT~~ PIItE HAR~HALLy AND OTl~R SUCH REA80ttllgL~
I3~tiU~ATiON9 AB MAY SE A~EEALD 2~1~CB88ARY SY Tl~ C11R
Sl3~.t~dOUNAB 'VII~W FOR T~E FROTECTA7N (aI~ ~fE EfEALTA,
~iAP'E~ AN~ WEY,FARE OF THE O~CCfJPANT$, AAt~ WBICH
RE~ilLATi0N8 ~ GENERALL"Y APPLICA$L~ TiD ffiCBCtOL9
OF THD9 T7fPS IN THE .CYTY OF H~AtJNDB trffiW."
we 1ES~ ssking ~o ba ptrc~a an tha age,~la a ibe ne~t e4~Glt, ak ~ ame
r~e e/111 be giad to ansrver any que~t~ops.
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Bard oi Campausion ChrleWa GaQer
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