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Home My WebLink About1976-07-28 PC Minutes,.,:. ( ~ r~rNUmcs oF mur t~rouNns viF,w ~LnNVZNa cor~r~iysz~N Sul;~ 28, 1976 The A'iounds View Pianning Commlealon wae oalled to arder at the City Hall by ita ohairperaon HarUaru Naake at 8:40 pm on tVednesday, July 8l3, 197G. Tho follovling members were presflnt; Aon Maokeben, Nanoy"Burmeiater, Paul Pedor, Qera7.d Poas and t3arbarn Haeke, The minutes for the July 14, 1976, r,~eeting were anproved as read~' 5 aYes ITEMS FOR CONSIDF,RATION ".r pona2d~~Q~im~ ~e]. ~"'' ~roperty fnvolved: 7500 Knollwoo3 Drive ~~' Minor. subdivi.eion (1 1ot l.nto 2) ,:' This reqitest le to Rubcitvide a lot which ie 228,11 x 133 into two lot~, 143.u x 133 and 85 ~ 133. }i ,,x ~ Steve Roee s4ated that the proposed 1~13~~4 x 133 Lot A oontaina an ~:;.' existing home and pool. mhe addiCion proposed for Lot B hae City ~~~ neWer but does not have Ci.ty water eervioe. 'Phia servloe will have to Ue Snsl:alled at Che expenoe of the oWner meeting the City~s re qtii ~ement a . ~. i ~'~ ( ' f~3P (Mackeben-Fador.) to remove from the Y,a61e Mr. aimpel'e requeet 1 ~ ; '"~ for a minor subdiviaion. 5 ayee t`' 618P (Maakeben-Fose) to recommend to the Counail that they ap~rove ' ' , the minor sutdivision for ponald 41mpe1, ~500 Knollwood Drive, consisting of Lot A being ~43.4 x 133 and Lat B 85 x 133, sub~eat ; to the following easementa: a 10 foot easement on the west side of Lot S, 5 feeE on the north side of Lot B, 5 feet,on the eagt eide of " Lot A einfl 5 feet on the West side oi''I.ot A. Note: bhe pwnar of thie it::. p.roperty will be requlred to install ec hie ezpen~c~ tha city viator to Lot B conforming Eo all City codes'and requirenents. Al~o, priur to any bul2dtng perrnit being lasued they will require ddeQUate drainage ~~iy'~.. p7.att. _ 5 ayes ;i Sandra Harley rope~ ^- t'y~nvolved: 8351 Oroveland Road Mir,or subdivision (2 lots into 2; , MSP (Foes-Piackeben) t~ remove from the table Ma. Harley's rEquest far a minor aubdlviaion. 5 ayes Steve Rose atated that when this parcel wea plattecl it had the exis4ifig atruatures. If thts is approved the City Sa holding a publia hearing on the mstter nn,AUgust 9 at 8:20 pm. The request le ~o create two netv lots out of two existing lota, The west lot to he 2'/8.2 x 110 -~ "'""~ Tacing Oreenwood Avenuo, the enst lot facing Fairchlld to bc 110 x 142. L.~ -?- ~~ Dir. Dtaakeben a,uentioned as to whaY,her thio w~s a real hardship oaoe. biSP (Pedor-Burmeister) to reaommend ro the Counail thet they a~prove the minor subdivleion of Sandra 3iarley, 8351 ^roveland fi~acl, oreating tiwo lota. Lot 1 beirig 2~8.2 x 110 and Lot• 2 bein~5 142 x 110. There orould be 5 foot easemente on the baolc of eaah of thc new lota and a 5 Poot conneoting eaaentent between bhe present utility eneement and the neta L•aken eusoments. It ahould also be noted there will be a 5 foot varianae ~,ranted on tho reer yard Aetbaclc and a vari.anoe granted of 1 foot os~ the side lut line for the a3ra(~e presently lacated 1:here and a 2.6 foot vnriance on the utility shed tliat is Qreaently located there. It should be noted that in ca.se the Cit~ taants to uae the easement that the owner a~rees to remove this shed at her expense. 5 ayes NOTG; f4r. A1ackeben stated for tte City Council: The reaeon for granting the uneven lot split on Sandra Harley's property located at 8351 aroveland Road is as foliows: the :urrent home is aituated in such a manner that if we were to divide the lot evenly and olace hcr home on Fqirchild she would have only an 8 foot setback from the divided property. Aleo ,y~u would create a ha.rdship by p~aoing her garage on ane lot and her home facing in the opposite dirention for which it was intended to be built, so it was determined that we had a hardehlp cace ae it is not normal practice of the Commission to ,;~•1 grant suoh variances. ~~,. Psul Plaech ris oper~y ~rivolved: 8255 Fastwood Rosd Minor oubdivieion (1 1oc into 2) MSP (Foss-Diacketen) to remove from the table Mr. Plasah~n requeat f~r a minor subdivisiun. 5 ayes Tt was explained that the exlsting parcel is 4~~.0~ x 1U1,01: Thare are two requests before the Commission. The fl.rat eurvey'dated July 6, 1y76. ehowed a division uf this par.cel into twa lots. Lot A waa to be 23~.53 x 101.01 and the Lot II would be 236.73 x 101.01. ~dr. Plasch withdrew that requeat and came in with a different eurvey for this eveninP with this type of split: LoY. N would be 325.55 x 101.01 and Lot B wou1S be 147.5z x 101.01. Mr. Plasch~s new requast of tha unequal lot eplit was to correapond with a lot line thflt t4r. Andrus had x•equested ~ust south of him. Mr. Flaech states that he wishes to go with the second survey. Mr. :~ose stated tY~at easements should be taken along the south 5 feet of both lots, slong the east snd wast 5 feet of tho proposed rear lot line and along the north 5 feet from the proposed rear lot line west for 89.02 ieet. ~`°~; f4s. Aurmeister atated that she aan see no ~uetif:nation for it and ~ still goea for equal lot snlits. Part of a garden and a fence do not ~ustify thla. ~3:~,R1A!',iC. .. ' '.1.~. .t. „ ~ . .. _ „ . . .~ ,. ~ -3- , hir. Plasoh atated thttt thuy ar~ present]y r~nting it and want thn ~ reareationul eren in the baok yard for chlldren. Counoilman Sholquist reminded tho Commieslon that in thoir deliberations thia evenin~ thnt they tnkQ into coheider¢tl.on the position that Chcy, us the Ciby s PSanning Commlaeion, put the City IePatly by granting a splib like this orithout hardahip. Mr. Fedar stated that he did not feel that he aould vote 1n favor of it as St doea not meeb 6he ariteri,a af hardehip. 618P Z5I3okeben-Fedor) to reanmmend to the Cuunoll that Chey deny the request of Pau'1 Plasch, 8255 Fi&etwood Road, for an unequal lot split of 147,52 x 101.1 v.nd 325.55 x lnl.l. 5 nYea NOTE: 'fhe Plasci~es tv.ill be ouC of toxn on AuRust 9 so they wottld llke the Council to eahedule thQm for a later date (Au~SUSt 23 perhapn). M8P (Mackeben-Fosa) to reconimend cf' the minor eubdivision requeat 1'or an equa? lot spl.it of 236.g~ en thg aouth ].ot line of each lo lot line of each lot•. to the Counell that they flpprove of Paul Plasch, 0?55 ~astwo~d Road, x 101.01 aub,ject to ¢ 5 foot eaeo:nent t and a 5 foot eaoement on the rear 5 aYes Mr. Fose atated bhat the reason the Commieaion did this was becauoe there was no hat~$ship after reviewing it so they wehb to ~he equal ~ lot eplit. ~ Keqneth & Jaak Kru en rope~ rty Snvolved~~480 6roveland Road & 2900 Co. Hd. J Ma~or subiiYision (2 luts into 10) MSP (Mackeben-Fedqr),to ramove from the table the Kruger. requeat for a ma,~c^ subdivision, 5 ayea The Krugens were directed Lo go back and redraw the lots faaing County RQ'J, consolidating 3 lots to 2 lota, 100 x 211.G0., The other lot would be 211,60 x 100 faoln~ Groveland Road, and Lhia hgs been done. Lota 4,5, ~ 6 will be OO feet oride. [ASP (F.:~s-Haake) to reoommeyd to the Counail thaY. they approve the ma~or subdiVislon uf ;;e~lneth & Jaak krixEen, 8490 Qroveland Road & 2900 Co. Rd. J for the ~'~'a. & Hummels lst Addition; opproving the inibir~led plat dated July 15, 1976. The garage shall be moved from T~ot 7 sub~ent to the 5 foot utillty eaaements un the tiack lot lines of LoLs 1& 2 and a variance to the rear yard aetAack of 12 feet on Loti,B, 5 ayea Robert Andrus Prope- r- ty ~volved:' 8247. Facstwood RQ Minor su6division (1 lot lnto 2) V „~.~-i . ,, ..., , , ,>.:x...., , ._ ,.. . ,. ,-,.. __ . ..,t~: ,..,,. tly• Gisp (~urmeiabor-Pedor) to remove from Lhe tnb /°~\ for a minor aubdivicslon, 7 J The lot is aurrently U7~ x ap.5. Tlie rQqueat 87.5 x 147.5, on th~ eaat, the west lot to he request for the enet lot urould lSne up with a south ot it. Le tho Andru~ request 5 ayeo le'to make tw~ lota, 87~5 x 325~5• The lot suhdivided to the t48P (Foae-Maokaben) to recommend to the Council L•hat they approve the minor eubdivieion requeat of Robert Andrus, 82~a raoewooa xa, oreaCing two lote from one loL; the lot fuaing fsaetwoad Rd would be 8~,5 x ~25•5, the lot faoln~ ctreenwoad would be a7.5 x 147.5 with a 5 foot enaernonti for utilibiea along the ~aost boundary of the lot frontinp, on the (ireenwood Drive, uttd a 5 fot~t et~nemenb on the enst ].ot line of the lot fronting on T'aetwood Urive. NOT~ thut thcre is an e:tistin~ 5 foot easement along tha north lot line of Uoth lote. 5 ayes oeor,g~e ~P~a ~ne~ F~rope y volvede Approximately 42CA nroveland Rd tda~or oubdivialon (2 lots into 5) ihls ie e request for two lots to be divided into 5. M9P (Maakeben-Fose) to remove Crom the table the Payne request for a maJor subdivisian. 5 ayes 1, i Mr. Foso ststad that the applicant proposea to subdivide on (3reen•rrood 9b""~ tn produoe 3 lots of 80 Soot vtidth. Thie woula.landloak,the back, but perhaps the rear lots oould be subdivided further. The staff reoommends waibing until they receive the starm water drainage progosal or until Cauneil sees it neceesctry.to put in tUe st.reet to i~urther develop the ares. Councllman shelqui,et stated that the discuaeioh will probably center around the Sohm property as the Meyor had said that there,would be no feaeible way of putting a renogn3zable house number for getting emergency servicns, snd the Counc;il turned tne requeut down. Further, Lhe Ci:y Attorney t~dvisea aonetantly that if you grant the subdlvision St will he diffioult not to 1asUe e building licehae, Mr. Payna yvated that he would like ta petition for the road. lQSP (Bux~meister-Fedorj to bable ttie 6eorge Pny~ne roqtienh Cor q ma~or gubdivision as he hao indicated that he wi11 pureue a petition fpr tha possSbility oT extending Knollwood Drive. F qy68 Clarenee L. Weston lsropert,y nvo ve : 84v5 Red Oak Dr1ve f4lnor subdivie3on (1 lat into 2) l,~ -~- The renueat is to divide one lot intn two lota. The west ].ot tvott].d be 239 x B1 faaing Red Oalc DrSve. Ths e~~.et lot lacing 9unnynide ,,,~ Road wouid be 23!1 x O1. Hoth lota are looked into the 81 faat frontege. MSP (Foes-41aalcebon) that we reaortunend to the Counoil that they p,rnnt the minor suLdivision reqizest of Clarenae L. Weaton, 0405 Red Oak Drive, areating one lot into L•wo lots; lot fronting on Red Oalc Drics would be B1 x 2j9 rrith a ltl foot easement along the eaet boundesry, and ~he lot fronting on Sunnyelde wouid be Q1 x 23~a with a l0 foot easement alon~ the south bouridary and n 5 foot utility eeteement along the weot boundary. Lse 3tauffaaher irope`r~uy`i-rivcr~ved: 82)0 Red t~xk Drive tQSnor subdivision (1 lot into 2) 5 ayes The exieting lot :a 473 x 83• The request ie to make bwo Inte, the weaL• loC fecing Fttlrchild ~.<ould be 234 x(f0 and the eaet lot facing Red Oak Drive would be 239 x B0. Steve Rose statad Chat the easements proposed muat be reaorded and a drainag~ plan musC be eubmitted and r~pproved kAtore bhe huilding permit is issued. o M3P (Fedor-Foss) to reaommend to the Counail that they HpFrove the Lee 0tauffaaher minor subdivi~ion at.8~90 Red Oak Drive, areating Cwo,lots, Lot 1 tn be 8o x 239 and Lot 2 to be 8o x 2~4,,with a 5 foot easement on the rear ].ot 1~.ne of the :oeat lot and a 10 foot easement on ~hs ~outh lot line of the went lot, and a 19 foob oas~mAnt on the rear lot line of the enst lot. Also a drainsge plan ivill be submitted prior to approval by Counci L Mr. Roae etated that he d1d not know if' a swail would be adequate and Ms. 8urmeister stated that she hated to t,ake action without Mr. & f4rs. Stauffacher being here, although their reprasentative (Ron Murphy) is in attendance. Peggy Aarenc etatec( that the Stsuffachera have a buyer for tha laC and tney paiS a low prioe beaauae they knew it needed fill. ConsequenCly 3t ehould not be ¢n adde~l axpense to the Sbt~uffaohers, , 5 aye:s S~t~anl~e I'isher roper~ ty ~volved: $2~0 prcveland Rd 14a,~or subdivision {2 lots into 14) or (1 lot into 10) Ran I4ur.phy aloo rep^eoented 61r. Piehex^. Th1a request 1.s borderad on the weat by Khollwood Drive , south by Ardan Avenue and oh bhA eaot by t3roVQlttnd Road, fhe sketch plans before the Commisaion are: for 14 lots; Lots 1-5 and 10-14 all have 75.3 frontage and 211.6 '~"` foot depth. Lots G& 9 would tre 111.b on Ardan Avenue with deptha ~ af 125 feet. T~ots 7& Ei would be 100 feet facing Ardan Avenue and 125 feet deep. The other aketch ~lan takes ;,he eame area. Lots 1-lb vinuld ... .,: . ;'~.~.x.: 'r~'' ,.n.., ~. ........ .. . ~ ,. ' .. .... ,~ _r' .~~ i - . ~ . , . . . ' ... J , _~_ ' • j ~ all be g2 s".11.fi0 with a otrin of land runnin~ the lenpCh of Arc3en ~ „ Avenue bet;waen KnoilWOOd Drive and Qrovoland Aoad nf ~11.5 x 423.2. 10 loto in the H oketan plan woul~l be, below the n~yuare foo*age reaammendetion of a5 feot. { Mr. Rose atatod that they ahould ~entaat ~taff again before the ~ preliminary plat ia drawn to see what will bo reqdired. ~ Mr. Maokeban etsted thst he wao tot~lly oppoaed to the 75 foot lot. Mr. Murphy ouggested that tha City couid roduce the easements, that would be anoL•her alternativa. Then they would go nlong wlth 12. Me. I[aske stt~tod thnt bhe g2 faot t.ot le what ~ve wnul~ Want to go wi.th, not the 75 foot lot. Thoy prefer P1an C. They do not want to go less thAn a5 foot frontage. 9}~e au~rgeated that they bring in somathing next time after they talk with the staff. MSY (BUrmeister-Mackeben) to table the 9tenley Fiahex~ requeab for a ma~or aubdivision until such time ae the ap~licant z~equeats that it be put back on the Plenning Commieaion agenda. 5 ayed Pav1d Bissonnstte roper y nvo ve : 8312 Red Oak Arive P41nor aubdivieion (1 lot into 2) /'""~, The parcel is nurrontly 239 x 10? and the requeat ~e to make two ~~ lote, the north Iot ~o be 239 x 97 and the south lot to be 239 x 85. Tdr. Rone stated that the aervices will have to be tapped and there is a fenoe thet w].7.1 have to be removed. Otherwidg thera are no problema. N13P (BUrmaietc.-Meokeben) to reaommond to the C~unail that they apprcve the minor eubdivision requeeti of David Biesonnette, 831"< Red Oalc Driva, the north lot being 239 x 97 and the soUEh Iot being 85 x 239. There is a fence on the new lot that ie being oreated ~ whlch will haye to be relonated. There is ett exieting 5$oot easement on the baak lob line of both lots. 5 aYea MSP (Maekeben-Pedor) that the meetin~ adyobtrn at 11:30 pm. Raspectfully'submibted, ~, ,. Y an io~~ ~ „ coli~gQaret~rY ~ E~ ...r_ ~ ,. \.~ •~~_~ ..,_,...__. :.~.~ ,. ~~. . .~~:..,,w;~~: .. . .~~ _ . . . ~ -f..r..:, ~_a, . ,;.. . . .,. ~ . . . , ,•,,,[r,..,., .-.:. ...., ~.., .,..+...:.,., , ..:~;.~~, ~.._: