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Home My WebLink About1976-08-11 PC Minutesrai~auTrs or m~irs ~aoorrns vrrw PLAPININO COPitdISSICN AUguot 11, 19~G / r - The ritound3 Visw plu~min~! r,ommisaion vrna aalled t~ nrdar at the+ City I{all by its chuirnernon 13arbaru }(ua1<e at 7:30 pm on Wedneoday, Augua~ 11, 197G. The follootin~ membere were preeent: Nanoy Aurme+.ater, Oerald Posa, Allan 7epper, Robert (11Fi2~I•~ and Barbara tlaake. Abaent were: Paul P'edor, Phyllia Alanchard, and Don Mackeben. The minutes for the July 28, 1976, meeting were spproved as read. 5 nyes ITEMB FOR CONSIDIiRATIOY Donald Bauer (Bauer Welding & hfetal Pabricator.s) ~oper y~involved; 2159 ~4ustang Aoad ReView City's Requirements. Thia is a requeet to 3evelop a metal fabrioation plant in ~dounds View Induetrial Park, The proaoaed atructure is to be 200 x 200 with a Phaee I addition of 115 x 200 and Phase II additlon of 225 x 200. Total Uulldin~ size to be j40 x 200 when completed. The staff atated t:hat surface drainage will natura].ly Tlow to the North and ¢p~licant hae agreed ait.her to place s holding pond tu socommodate to m¢x.imum runofP or to do a study to see what the impaat wou.ld he to the ^ surrounding ares. Further, th? City has an existing 30~ uEility ( aasei~ient alon~ thc Plorth end of the property and it 1s presently ~aaed \_~' to travel to Water Tower M2. Also the Fire Chief hae etated Chat the app2laant must extend an 8~' mnin and hydrant inbo the property, id:•. Fc:^t a'lso atated that if Mr. Bauor can get the optner to give the City a road easement they would be very receptive to that, The Commisalon disaussed tabling this matter as they will need reporte bac:c from ths Rice Creek L~later She3, the Fire Msrshall, etc., and bwo weeke should not make that much dif''erence. t4r. ~lazer wr~nts to find out what the environmentsl impact would be and Mr.'Fase~etuted that he would like to encourage this L•ype of development and he felt we ehould allow P+!r. Bauer 'to get started thie eveninE• Counailman Shelquist steted that ~ahat,ever action ie taken, the Cammission should canbinue~to discuss it thoroughly so that tihey do not come back and get surpr~aed, rie thia wou13 nub go through the Coupail unti.l it ~tept tl~roug!~ all appliaable agenaies. t4s. ~urmelaL•er etated that ahe would like a aopy of thcac recommcndations from the arenoiee san: to the Ylanning Commi.ssion. MSP (Foas-7.opper) to recommend to the Council that they agprove tha concept of the applicant, Gonald Dauer, 2159 Muatang Road. The request ie to develop a metal fabricatior. plant, proposed et.ruoture to be 200 x 200, with a Phese I Addit].on of 115 x 2U0 and a Phase II Addibion of 225 x 200, total bulldinK,bo bo 540 x 200 when ~omp7.eted, ~uU,~ect L•n bhe fallowinP conditions: ~ 1 L/ . , , , ,,. , -2- ,/~~ Approvai frnm the Cngine~ring Departr.~ent with regnrd to the h~lding ~ pond, conrlnF;ent uPon apprev~l af the PCA, R1ae Creek Watar Shed, ~'' C3ty F'ire Marshall; an aaaeptable building nontraot with the City for ' the devolopment of the property, poatinp an nooaptable bond frnm the i City, and an acaeptablP. ~.ighting plan and aurb auta, and obt~ininp, ths proper eolution wi~:. regsr3 to eaaementa to the City W~ter Towor, ' approvsl of the final landeaaping pian both in the north and eouth ende of the property and also on the eaat of the property, with a 40 :oc~ ~~een area, and a varinnoo of about 70 foet in bhe truoking area; finsl approval of this overall aoncaht would be p,rented sftor ~11 ut tlieae uenaitionn have Ueen met. 5 ayes Peter Jordan t~ropu~r y-involved: 74'/4 Spring Lake Aoad t4a~or aubdivlsion (1 lot into 3) , Thia l~t sa 195.97 on sprSn~r Lake Road nnd 319,60 on Broneon Drive, tdr. Jorden is requestin~5 3 luts; Lot 3 would be 195.97 x 13~~.60, Lnt 2 would be 90 x 195.68 nnd Lot 1 wuuld be 90 x 195•49. Mr. iloee st~ted that it meets a11 the requirements, an exieting shed has to be romavad. 14r. Jordar~ atatod tfiat it ie definitely a poc+aihility that they will eell the home when the lots heve bean sold. ~~ Ma. Haak9 reiteruted vrhat she had otated at the July14 meeting: "that ~-~ , this voEe an the survey Se not• binding on the final vote on the preliminary plat beaause the fu7.1 Commission is not here". 8he stated that the Commission tonight ie of a different makeup, idr. Jordan stated that one o}' the problems is trie f'essibility of the road. There la no queation that a road could go down, iuut doea the City and the residents really want a ruad. ~dr. Rose atated that there would be a public fiearing with letters going to almor~t overyone on that'bloak. They coui3 inclu3e somc+thing in'that letter whioh would end all.possibilltiea for a pract3oal road syatem to gd through and the onus o-iould t`~en be on the neighborhood. P98P (BUrmelatormHnalce) to deny Peter Jordan~e requeat beaauoe nP the feasibility that a road could be put through on thia block. If suah a rond woulrl be put through Mr. Jordan coulc~ otill gct ;:cta, two lot to face the new road ~;oinp, throuk?h and not Dronaon. 3 ayes 2 naye t4o. Ilaske stated L-hat ~4r. Jord¢n re4ueats a publ'_c haarlnp; on the ma,]or aubdivislon at 7~~sAr3nP; Lake Road. ~ F~_r_a~~ncis W~~id e~r `` ~ rope2' rty involved: ~425 Red Oak Dr. 4~„~ P1a~or subdivic~ion (1 lot lnto U) ..,;.,. . _ ,. ., -3- Applia~nt proponed to subdivide bhe lot 528 x lf2 into A I.ots. 1I1s /'~ home exiata on the property. The lots would be t~vo fooing Red Ottic Drive 't5 x 264, aoutli lot u~ould be 87 x?.G4 end the easti 1ot faaing Sunnyside Rosd would be A1 x 264. The staff atxted Ehat the applicant should have a preliminnry plat drawn up with a 5 foot aetback trom the garagn side of' his home to the lot line to ~ive Lot 2 ita maximum fsontage. Ms. flaake atated that if thls is not leea than ~5 feet they are interested. At this paint that is the minimum. Ms. Haeke then told 61r. WidP,r.r to fta ahend with hie preliminary plat~ Th_ only nn~nnt. j.9 that the nor~h loL on Red Oalc Drivc 3hould not be lene tl~an 75 feet in vridth. Grnest (3usta:Cson roper y nvo.ved: Lot 4-23, I31ock 3, areenfield Y1at 2. Speaial Uee Permlt (TownhouHe developmant in R-1 2one are¢) Arnhitent Mi,1ce Smlth is repreaenting idr. 6ustnfson. hir. Smith etnted that a.fter the publlc haaring 7.n which the ~I pLex propoeal was r.e~ected thQy took anoCher look at tlte p:•oPert;/. The Compreheneive Plan on Lctnd Use Plan recommends Medium Density. Medium Denaity is defined aa townhouees, patlo homea, duplexes and fourplaxee.. After atudy they doveloped a townhouoe proposal and appli.ed for +~ rezoning of the property from R-1 to R-9, t4r. Rose changed the request ~~ to a 3pecial Upe Permit. Mr. Smith feela that the besC use of the land is s~r?th x~ental property, and they would li1ce to get approval `-~ for rezoning. Their plan would develop 38 town houoe unita, ~00 sq feet. 4Jith the R-1 zoning aa it i~ now 1t is slmoat impossi.ble to aeaure the necessary flnanoing for single home dwelltnga, Ms. Hsako'asl.ed the Commiasion if they liked this concept?, Should we recommend ao the Councll that they rezone R-1'to R-3? Triay would then have a public hearing. This particular development pl.^:n does correspond with what we suggest in our Comprehensive Plan. Ms. Foss atated that hx leane toward owner-occupied, but can understan~ the rental. t4s. Burmeieter asked'Mr. Smith if they had ever annsidered PUC or would this be out of the questian and he replied that he Ss not familiar enough with the requirements to he could nob answer trie question. MSP (Foss- Iiaake ~) to recommend to the Council that the~' grsnt to ~rneet 6ustal'son, Lot.s 4-23, gloak 3, Qreenfie.ld Plrzt 7, a Special Ue!~ Permit fcr a tovrn hbuse development. MSP (Glazer-Burmeister) to amend Ehe motion to inr,lude that we recommend a nublia hearing. 5 ayes MSP (Zepper-Foas) to amend,tho mction to include that we waive the requirements that these units be owner occupled. ..~..,, 3 ayes t f 1 nay ~r~~ 1 flbst. _ .. .,., . .. ,. , , , . . _ ;~ ~ y ~ , i 1 N t 1 1 ... .::~~. ~ .. . . ~ Me. Burmeisto: stnted that Ehe voted no beoauae if we aro goinp, to ~0 9pQe1a1 Uoe it shnuld ba ae what our ordinanae nalls tor ~"""" owner oooupied". They would be mainta!ned bether if they were ownar- ooaupind. Mr. 2epper etated that bhe r~ason for hie f1na1 amendment Se bhat it eeema to be the only feasible development wlEhout go:ng to apartment dwe7.lin~s, eto. Paat exparienoe shqtos that owner-oacupied town'hauQes do nat se11 in the area and in his opinion there ie no other solutton. Me. Burme7.abor Sndioated,that Moundo View dooa nat have enough town hou~os to ahow thin. tdr. Olazer explained hia abstaining from votlnq by ete.ting thnt we sre not aovered by an,V zor.inq or.~dinance 4hd WB eeem to tre 'ahipping~ away st the one we have. Tho vote on the main motion as amended was tekan. 3 eyea 2 nays 14s. Haake atated that we did not go R-3 wi~h the ~arael beaauee ~ae wera a1'raid that ib orould change hnnds and under a ri-3 zonin~ we could then get apartmenta, whioh Se not in L•he spirit c,f the neto Comprehensive Plan which sUageatia mc~Qtum density 1'or this are& and that is deTined as tovm houaea up to 6 unit•s, i^~ 57'AFP: i4s. Burmeister etated that there have been many instanoes ~ .~h`e past where we try to work under thE aoncepb of the new Comprehensive Plan but without the nerr zoning book we cannot imploment this,and we are really handlcapped. It ia ditficult ta Tane any develupment wlthout a law to work with, Further, she stated, to ALL PLANNIN(3 COMMTS3ION MEM~ERB: l+fe are getting to tihe point khere we are not hav ni ~~tendayne. We hnd an ittstanea tonl~ht where a deaision was completely turned axound becauae two of tho people on the Commie9lon were not here at the time he had come in bef'ore and the rnan wae very irate, Tf 1:het~e geople oannot be here most of the time then they ahould reaign. Me!~ting ad~ourned at 10;50 prn. Reapectfully Qubmlt~e~1', , ~:~~ y an om eourdin~5 8ecretary •~~ ~. ,~,.W.. ...:. ... ..,, ~. ._..,, .., . ' . , . : ,, . . '. r i ,tv " ..:Y . ~~, j