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~--^ The hloundrt View Plnnninp, Commission wnn oalied to ordpr at thp CSt;/
Ha11 by its ehsirperson Ba'rUara Ftuu{ce at 7~3~ pm on Wo<lnenday,
^eptemher 8, .197G. 7'he fa11ov3np, membero ~~rora p,epontt Nnnay
BurmeSster, c3erald Fose, Robert 6lnzer, Puul I~edor, Phy111^ C!l:~nahnrd, '
Allan Zeppe.r, Don Mackeben attd 3nrbura ![¢al<c~.
The minutea for ttie Auguat 25, 1)7G, meotinK were aorreoCocl Qn folloornt
let page, 5th paragraph, 9th 13ne, dolr,tc tlle wordp "thnb thin cte~ee
give them° and insert in lieu thoreof tho taorde :"toe onn f!SVa tho
people"; and at the eyd of tl~at oantenoc delote the pariod ancl ndd
"on their plnn." On pap,e 3, ~Ch paru(,raph, 4th lino, dclato the word
"legal" and insert in lieu thereot tt;c otord "1ooa1'~,
lrtSP (AUrmeisber-I~edorj that thc ml:~ute^ bc npprovn~t nn oorreataQ, f3 nJnn
tJOTE: The memb~ra of thi~ Commisalon wou7d 11ke tho minuCea dollverod
to them by mail or other~•rlse--it le a qreat inaonvenl.enoo to h4vo bo
pi.ck them up each time.
IT~MS FOR CONS~DERATION
~lyde J. PotCs
Property involved: 2~102 Sherwood Road
^ Vuriance (reRuest to place driveway wlthin 3' of prnpgrty line)
U I•fa. ltaaxe sL•ated that applicant winhea to inetell drivewsy to Withitt
3 feeb oS the property line. The total dietanoe betvreen homoa ia J3 foat,
Proposed driveway will be 21 feet from the neighl»x•~e h4mv. Ttra
minimum distance would ba 15 feet. T;~e 2400 3herwood nei~hbor haa
a6reed ta btils in tivritin~. 7'he driveway would be oonor9te,
idSP (2epper-(3lazer) thab we approve the vsrianca .°or C1yAe J, PoLtn~
2402 Shsrwood Road, to put hia clriveway up to 3 foot oC Ch~ property
line. The new drlvewey is neQesoary becauoe Mr, PoCtn preaently hen
to drive on hio neighbor`s proparty tio get ta h~Q ~nrnpa. ~'hora ie
a latter from hin neighbor, Jamea Patriak b~Noii, etatin~? bhaC he hflo
no ob~eationa to thls variance (at8achnd). Thero doeA noC aeem to Ge
any ather viable alternativa.
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A1vin~Feder.son
roper~ ty ~ivolved. 6~7o Pleaeant View f~rtivo
$peci&1 SJae Permit (overaized acoenaory bui1c11nR)
Flu. Haake stated that the ap~licunt wiohea to he ~;ivun npprovnl ot nn
~coesaory buildin~; adciitian. Thn orip,innl nbruoturo ia 9 x 10, prith
the ndditioa of 9 r. lo. Totn2 lao nq foot, It vrill Uo a mntsl retruoture
with an open end on ena)i one,
" I+ir. Fedor asked I9r. Pedereon if he could wait on Eha oottori+Uatlon un~il
! the Council xesolvos exaetly ktow large s~turnga trUilding is p,o?.n(? to
~ be allov~ea, tie alo~o otated thaL• it 470.C unfortuneta thnti na bad ta
~ay a feo.
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Augubb 24 r 1976 ,
, Tot Yiilege oP N!oundeview ' ~ ' ~
I . I, Patriok,0'Neil of 2408 9herwood Hoad g~.ve Olyde S. Potte
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rl NIn,,,5,5432 Per~uiesion to
oP 2402 ,Sherwood Road, Moundeview, ' ~
+ have'his driveway within three faet of the properCy~line.
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MSP (Ulaxer-7,epper) to raaommonQ to the Counail that thQy aoprove
the speciul uae pormit raqueut of Alvin Pedorenn, 69i0 Plenoant View
Drive, lnaamuah ao the Councl.l hns.al.ready oot a preaadettb.
.,-.` 6 aycs
Burmelster - Iiaake 2 nnye
his. Burmeister etated that she voted nny beoauoe techniaaliy vre still
have 1~1,ri eq teet on the boo{co and wo oannot ~e en the assumption
about what the Councll Vrill do, and ~he can aee no hardohip.
f4s, ftaalce told f4r. Ped,ers~n to rgll and find out If tY.e ,y0 foc aovera
all costa.
Robert F. Leatina
~ l~roperty ~nvolVed: G339 Pleasant View Dr3ve
Speeial Uee Permit (oversized acae~sory building?
Applicant vrishes to build a 2 uar garage and to keep the oingle. car
gara~e elready exlstin~. The purpose of ti~is orould be to house a
boet, They would sod the extra driveo-ray.
A citizen stated that• 5f11bur Johnson's two accessory buildin~a have
been approved trrith overaize doors, tio he cannot see why these people
cannot have one car ~3rage and un acceseory building. Ms. Haalce
explained that the Lestina~s are aeld np, for something lar~er yet
and ib Ss on the lot line.
~.-~ P~r. Muckeben aslced why Mr. Sohnson'o request wes approved by the Councll
+ and Coun.ilmnn ShelquSst replied ti~at they went and looiced nt it and
,J felt thttt in that psrticular czse it wa's a situstion where it was
allowable--the lot vras d~ep and very nent.
Mr. Leatina stated that the.property on the other si,de has a para6e
of close to lUUO aq feet. They coula not bu11d a big~er builciing ao
it would be too expensive and they orould have to remove too many treea.
fqe. Burmeiater moved to deny the requeat of Robert 1'. Lestina to build a
2 car garage becnuse the•re is already an existin~ garage on the property
und our ordinance only allovrs one ~,ara~,e. fQotion died for lack of a
aecond.
41r. Laetina said that he was tif1111ng to Urick. ~.t over and put in a 2 foot '
door or whatever i'J0.8 neaec~sory. '
t4r. Fose stated that Daeically it has been an accesnory building all along.'
MSP (Et~ake-7eppor) that ~ae rAcommena to thc~ Counc~.l that they deny
the Robert F. I,e3tina, G~34 P1CA86ttt V1Q47 Dr.ive, requeet for nn overeir.ed
accessory building. The accesnory Uuildir.g on the sout)~ 31de of their
lot l0 12 x 2G, It ia slso on the property .line and perhaps even into
the lnt• aouth of them. The r.equest ia ^G sq !'eet.mnre than Y,he proposed
new accessory buildin~; oiza of 21G 3q feet,
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[Qackeben-fiedor-6lazer: 2 aUst.
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hir. Zepper obated thut he didn~b thinlc that the doora botherecl htm
ao much aa the fnet thak the tu3lding io neroao the preperty lir.a.
'r1 Wl~en you otart ohangin6 the une you can run inLo man~ px~obl2ms. Also
j the building in ovexoize.
°° Dta. Dlananard etaL•ed that nhe voLed for thi.s deninl becau3e I feel
that we have ta Ro along o-rith 'orhut io on thc boolco nlthough it is
probably a leanon in tutility.
Mr. dlozer atated that he aUatained beaause there nre so many
exL•e~7uating circumstanueo eurroundin~ eaoh of thesc requesta thxt the
proper method of handling thia ia otill by Special Usn Yermit and they
ahould Ua ,',udged on a oase by o~ee basio.
a~eor e Pa yn-e
rupe~o.lvocl: 82~6 6roveland Road
Ma,~or Subdivision (2 lots into 6)
l~Ir. Poss left t.he Commisa.l.on at E3:40 aa he has ri conflict of interesL•
in this matter.
NOTL: There wae large attendttnce thi~ eveninp, which shows an i.nterest
in increaelnE the accessory buildin~r size and by that indicatiun, it is
the feeling that 216 feet ie not goin~r to be adequate.
Mr. 2epper then aeked what 1;he accessor;/ buildings are being used for2
Ha~ anyone ever checked tha.t? I~ie. Haalce tt:en as3ced where theso citizens
were when ote had the hearing on garage sizes?
Payne Matter: P4s. Haalce atated that there is a petiition that Mr. Payne
"'~ has eu~b~ed from various people for the extenaion of Knollwood Drive,
~--~ south of Ardan Avenue. Six different houeeY~olda represer.ting ownara
ot 8 aeparate parcels. A copy ol this petition is sttacned.
Applicant proposea to o~mbine two .lotd 100 x 453•2 and 140 x p53.~ and
forrn 3 lobs fronting 6roveland 80 x 22~.09. The remaining ttivo rear lots
would be 140 x 227.11 ¢nd 100 x 227.11.
PQSP (Blanchard-Burmeister) that we take the George Payne matter,from.
the table. 7 aye~
Counoilman Shalquisb statod that ?59 of the people can petition and
~et a public hearin~. They do not have to indicate at thls tlme that
ohey will accept responslbility. They ~re free to come and atate their
views.
Mr~ Payne explained that he has not drawn up tha plan for the six lote
yet.
Prtr. Ped~r atated thaE rae ehould Qet the public hearing on th~ road end
find out exsctly what is going to happen and Lhen eit down and divl3e
the lots as we would want them,
Me. Blanchard stated that Mr. P~yne ia willing to divide the laoid without
the road.
Mr. F'ador stated that it only bakc~s ~I more signatures for a j:ublic
y,w hsaring and that vrould be the viay to go.
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~'`,, De~vt Sept. !, 1976
~~~ '° To: Couneil, ~!ounds View, Ptinnesote
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~' Subject: Gxtension of Knollwood Dr. South of Ardon
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'' ~ . The £ollowing persons/property owners request
. tho extension of Knollwoed Drive South af Ardon,
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hty. liaatce eaid that all t4z~. Payn~+ ~aants io Lwo lotu to Uuild on.
~~'`~) t4r. Payne etaCed that the etaff had said that the City would like to ~
~..~-°' see the six lota divided at the snme time. '
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btr. Sohm stated that he cnould be willing to mova hia gara~e. ,
Me. tIaake told Gtr. ?ayne that they would need a pre2lminnry plat drntan
up now.
Mr. Fedor and t4r. Uluzer sL•ated that they ti~auld like to eee t7~:- eix
lobe.
Dir. Zepper said that he wae in :nvor of 5 lots.
t4s. Blenchurd did noY. obfect Co gcing t~ tho full extent if he aould
do it right now, hut the:•e caas na point in making him vrait.
Ms. Burmelster could see no problems wlth the 5 or v~1th the minor.
Ms. Haake stated that there could be no hsssle noming back ~,v1th a minor
~ubdivieion, the mu~ority of' the Commiseion would say to do a[~reliminary
plat with 5 lots at this poitit of time and ~;o ma~or.
Ms. Foar~ returned to L•he Commi.ssion at 9~30.
Don Bauer
Property involved: 2159 Mustan~ Orive
Induatrial Development
~ f4s. Haake atated that they are lookir.g at Mr. Hauer's final drawings
and that they have t~ll received copies of the i~eaommendatSonR from
the PCA, Rice Creek Watershed, etc.
The City Cngineer feit that it vrouZd be unfair tq hold f4r. Bauer up,
but that th:~ road ehould be conaidered by the Commission and the
Ccuncil at another time. The Fire Chief (in hia letter} 1a only
augoesting that they consider ~ome sort of loop on fduetang Drive for
8r:other access.
Councilman Shelquist atated that it 13 the ~ob of the Planning Commiasion
~o ircmediately recogni.ze_the n=ed for the road.
Ken Cienson (repreaenting P4r. 13auer) st,ated that another additionsl
road is the City~s problem, and it is not tdr. Dauer's problem.
i+t5 ('Lupper-Feae) t<> recommend to the Council t•hab they approve the plana
as preaente-l to us by D~nald Dauer, 2159 iqustei~g Road, to ctevelop a
metal faUri~ation plant at 2i59 rrtustan¢ aoaa.,
!dn. Fose stated tliat vre have already al].owed tvro other industrle~ to
come in. At thia point to come up with a road plan, ~to. :rould be
disex~lminatin~ a~rainst 69r. IIauer. t1e felt that the road ahould come in
south of there on the Near Brighton 31de at some future date, but no
need to hold Mr. Uauer up.
t4r. 6lazer etatec~ that a road ~outh of Mustang Drive vrill noC solve the
needs of the Fire t4arshall.
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I~tr. Posa emphasized that triat is not Mr. 6auer's proUlem.
~ NOTEi The erea in, whioh the water tower ie loaated on the Inepeotion
Department ahould ohenk and the fQaintenanae Departmenb olean up.
Mr. Olazer etated vhat bhe PCA addreased only tt'~ noise and air
ahouldiaoneldereenynrecommendationethe~PCAhmay'gme.keplatermon on wateratl
The,Y ehould deflnitely make Uheir aomments• 6~.~Re'
A vote on the motion was oalled for• ~urmeioter~~la~er: 2 qbet.
Ms. Burmeleter sta~ed that it is a@,ooa plan but ehe feels that we
have a problem in acoea~ability +uid.sevornl more unanswerea Commission
Ms. Haake asked the City Engineer; before the next Planning
meeting, to look over the Industrial Park ar.ee ae 1~hey would like to
likeato1 akr~~a aommentWOnh~.taenclu''onetupnwithRtheirhrecommandati n uld
Bruoe Dahlmeyer then rield a disoussion wlth the Commieaion on the
propos~i~0n £or Steve~s Appliances.
, Meetin6 ad~ourned at ,11:00 pm.
~+ Respectfully submitted,
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