HomeMy WebLinkAbout1976-10-13 PC MinutesMINU'tE8 OF TIIE MOUND9 VIEW
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ootober 13, 1976
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The Mounde View Pianning Commieeion was os].led to order at the City Nall
by 1te ohairpereon Barbara Haake a4 ~:30 pm on Wedneeday, Ootober 13,
1976. The foZlowing members were prosant: Nanoy Burmeieter,aerald
Foeo, Peu1 Fador, Phyllie Hlannhard, Don Mackeben snd Barbara Haake.
Abeent weres Allan 2epper and Robert plaxer, la4ber being exoueed.
The minutas for the 3eptember 22, 1976, maeting were aorreated ae followa:.
in the lab paragraph, 1st pa~e, tho name "Roberb 5oea" ehouid be delebed.
On page 3, lOCh paragraph, 4th senEenoe, atCer the ward "eide"and before
the word "of" insert L•he words "of Lote 3 k 4". On paga 4, 6th ~are6ra~h,
delete, in the 3rd eenbenoe, the word "t?ie" and lnaert ths word 'takisig~,
and after the word °weot,'~ dolate the worda "r,he east border line of
Cenbury Merour~ Freight Compsay wou2d hava a b4 foob rond eaoement
takan nnd that the eaeement wou],d axbend soubh" and insert in lieu
thereof the words "going snuth along the iveat border line of Centu~ry
Mercury Freight Company for a width of 60 feet to~'.
MSP (Hlanchard-Foso) to approve the minutea of 3eptember ZZ, 1976 ae
oorreoted, g ayea
ITEI~LS FOR CONSIllERATION
Rodna Robinean
roperty n~ vo~Tved: B34U Y,ong Lake Rd
Minor Subdivision (1 lot into 2)
Applicant's property messures 465.2 x 75•O1 fronting both Long Lake Rd
and Ureenwood Dr. The requeat Sa to eubdivide bhe lot 'creating two
lote; lot fronting Ureenwood Drive 9:o be 195.03 x 75.01 and the lat
Tronting Long Lake Rd to be 270.17 x 75•~1. The exiating ahed looated
on proposed west lot should be relocated nn the east lob meeting
aetbsok rmquiremente and staff recammende total rear eesement of 4U.47
on the'east 10~ for ubiliby pur~oses.
MSP (BUrmeister-Aedorl to reaommend to the Council that they approve
tha minor subdivision requeat 7f Rodney Robineon, 8340 Long Leke Rd,
with the above deeoribed dimensians end that there has to be a rear
easgment of 44.47 on tt~e eset lot Por utiliiy purpvsea aiid b1AO ohod
on the went lot wi12 have to be removed before the deed is filed.
6 ayes
Steve's A lianaes
roP perty invo ved: 28A1 Hightr~ay 10
Variance (reduation o: required perking spaces)
Steve Dnhlmeier appeared for Steve Singer. Applicant wiehes te expand
his prenent buainees with an addition to hi9 axlating building. The
addition will include warehousa ~paea oP 6,750 aq St end an additional
showroom aree of 1568 aq ft. 3L•aff etated that a bUS±nass of'this size
ehow floor room needa a minimum of 3~ park2ng apaoes and applioant
has anly provided for 26. A2oo the minimum setbaoks of 10' ohould be
upheld.
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Ms. Dlanohsrd etated bhat ehe had epeken with the eCaff previously about
the quesbion of eloaing the lsb erttrance, beoause brafff.o will be
~ brought down to Che residential. Btaff reaommends bhat the moat south
aurb aut locatsd along aroveland Rd be removed. They fRel that the
looation of thie ourb oub ie a conetant potentigl traTflo problem.
Ms. Burmeister asked if the Pire marahall shouldn't oheck if they plan
to uoe the tanks? Sbaff etabed that bhe oonseneus wae thab nothing
would have to be eheoked. They furthe:~ atxbed that by removing the
ebove menbioned nurb out it would allow addibionel parallel psrking
spacee nexL to the ourb.
~An. Baeke aeked Mr. 9lnqer how many spaaes wou7.d be utilized by the
emplnyeen, eta, Mr. 9inger rhp~ied bhat they sre not there very long--
~ust ooma in and get parte, eto. Everything i~ L•aken home in the
evaning exoept one truck. He needs the warehouse epsoe end wante to
geb bha building up ae ~toon ae posaible. The supply Lruoks uee the,
axit on 10--that ia the ona they wouifl like to aes leTt, Me. IIlanohard
regeated tihat bhe only thing ehe ob~eota to in h~svin~ the eouth one
oloaed is that ali the treffic is coming in on bhe resSderttial aroa.
A citi~an asked what assuranoe Se therethat this may not be aold and
areate a lot more traff~.a9 Mr. 3inger reolied that they plan to stay
thera. He is not going to be there ,~urt a year, end he has aone
ri~nning the buainesa with him.
Councilman Snelquiet stated that it wae tranaferred from a gae station
to an applianoo~ etore easily--eo it could be converbed otherwise es
,,.-. vrell, Chie should be consSdered.
f ~ Mr. 51ng~x,stated that ?~nnything ie poeaible but they arr~ planning St t~
~.,J be an sppllaane etars and n4thing else.
Mr. Fedor etated bhat bir. Singer is running a healthy business now.
If he neede the parking spaaes he will be down to get them.
MSP (Foas-Fedor) that we grant the va^ianoa r.equeat for 3teve 3inger
of 9teve~e A P1lanaea at 2841 Highws;; 10. The varianoe would be to
radur,e the 3~ PBrking spaces to 26 apaces as prov3dud in his plen,
and bo approve the plan as submitted with bhe~e exceptions: that !:hare
be a 10 footi aetbaok along the north alde of the lot,, eub~eat to them
entering Snto a contract with the City wiCh acaeptabie landsoaping,
lighbing and snow ramoval plan. The reaeon we are grancing a variance
la thah i.n thie type of businesa ib is not neceseary to have 34 parkinq
spaoea. ,
5 eyes
1 nay
Mr. Mackeben etated that he voted nay beaauae we are talking about
roughly a 23% variance in the riumber of parking apaces. We do no0
reall,y know Lhe total future use of the buildinA and it is an excessive
varianco.
Walter F. Bauer
r~perby nvoived: 7644-4$-52-59-Waodlawn Ar
Duplex Development (2-2 unit bulldings)
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Appliaent propoe~e to bu11d two duplex units on two Sote which are
~ laoabed in an R-9 Zoned area. A var~snoe la required aa the minimum
aida yard oeCbaok is 10~ in both R-2 and A-3 areaa. Applioent rias
' only %~~ on eaoh aide.
Mr. Fosa atatcd that under the niroumebsnoee in that it is soned R-3,
this would be more gtt.anbive to the area. They ars fairly good aized
lota.
Mr. Fedor eald Chat th~ae duplexee would aertainly enhanae the area
more 8han a large apartment building wou1Q do.
`~ M.RY (Fadar-BUrmn~bL•er) that wa approve varianoe requeaC of Walter F,
Bauer, 76M4-48-52-56 Woodlawn ~r., tha raqueeB being for a ~~~ eide yard
aetbaak. Tha pntitioner wiYA enter lnto a dovelopment contraat with
ths City ta oover Iendecaping, troea, sod, atc. we are approving thle
? as it would enhance the aree and upgraflee the oommunity. mhe lota are
already zoned R^3 end bhey are subet ar~d+~rd in frontage, and in nrder
to got a normal size duplax 1t requires the vas~ianoe.
f. Mr, b'oss atabed that he would rather give him ~he var:..nce then have him
redeoign it and make it lesa de~irabla. Ms. Bur:naieter questioned
;~ , whether a preaederit would ba aeb4 A vote was taken.
6 ayes
Duane Meki
~ rop~y~nvalved: 8340 Spring Lake Rfl
Minor 8ubdivieion il 1ot into 2)
Ab 8i50 pm Mr. Foea excueed himeelf.
neorge Payne Se repreaenting Mr. Maki.
Appllaant's loE fr.onts both 8pring Lake Rd an3 Pleasant View DriVe.
Hi~ hame fronta Spring Lake Rd. The requeeC is to spiit off the rear
135.00~ whioh Pr~nts Pleasant View Dr. Lata would be S~'wida.
M3P (Maekebgn-Blanchard) that we recommend to the Counall that bhey
approva the minor aubdivision rnquest oP Duene Maki', 6340 9prlpg Lake Ad,
ereating 1 1ot into 2; 1 lot L•d be 1~5 x 90 ott Che weet eide, and
215.07, x 90 on the ssb eide, with a 5 foot utility eaeement otf of enoh
1ot on ths rear lot linee. 5 aYee
Mr. Foso returned to the Commiesion at 8:55 pm.
Maro R. Adama
Properby involved: 9064 Aed C`ak L':
Minor subdivision (1 Iot into 2)
Appliasnt propase~ bo subdivide his lot SrontYng Red Oak Dr in~o two
lote> Tho narth lot would be 89.41 x 231 and the eouth lot would be
75•71 x 23p- An equal split would crasbe Gwo Sota with 82.5 frontages,
'"°i but the Iooatiun oP the garage preventd thie.
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Mr. Fedor eCated that garagae have been one herdehip we havA boen
~A"~ allnwing.
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t.tr. Foen stated that ha wou13 go to 73 feet.
Ma. Dlsnahard a~reed. At thisstage the 'j0 feet Sa adequate.
Me. Hurmeister stated that ahe would go 73 Sf the driveway ie aheoked out.,
Mr. Fsdor felt that he would go nlong with 73 .feeb or even ~1.2.
Mr, Meokeben egld that he wa~ oppoaed t~ the varianee. Would 7.ike to
eee the @2y Peet idoally. ~
Me. Haake also wanted to aee 82--we have mado people move gareges before. '
3taff reoommended denying the requeet and aeeing ST thoy have anobher one. '
MSP (Fedor-Hurmeiater) that we reaommend denial cf the eubdivieion ~
requeet of Mara R. Adsme, 8004 Red Uak Dr, ae preaented. The reaeon
Se that the axiating garege loaated on the north lot would have only
a~y f~ot satbaek from 1;he propoeod lot 11ne, 6 ayee
8taff stated that in the Payne Addition you approved tt, aub~eot to '
stipulations. They will marely move the line and it will be reviewed
to make sare it meets ,your requiremente.
The Adama otatad that it was a11 right to eay 70 or ~1 feet, but thev
would not be willing to move the garags.
M3P (Fedor-Foes) to recommend te bhe Counoil that theyapprove the
°'~ minor subdiviaion requeat of Marc R. Adams, 8004 Red Ook Dr; the south
i ) lot being i3 x 231 and tha norL•h lot being 92.11 z 231, with a aide
~`~-~~ yard variance of 1.8 feet on the garage exieting on the north lot
and the drivaway. There wili alao be a 9.5 varianoe on the f:ontage
of the eouth lot .
4 ayea
2 nays
M3P (Burmeistar-Hltsnchard7 to resoind the action of the previoua motion ~
as stated: to recommend to the Council that they approve the minor ;
eubr!.ivZalor~ request of Marc R. Adsma, 8004 Red Oak Dr; the sauth lot y'
being 73 ~ 231 and the north lot boing 92 J•1 x 291, with a side yard i
~ variance of L 8 feet on the garage exiating on the north ].ot and the
i driveway. Tii~re will also be a 9.5 vsriance on the frontr~ge of the ~
snuth lot. ~
i 4 ayes i
~ Fosa-1 nay i
~ Mackdbon- 1 abet. ~
! MSP (F'Pdor-BUrmeiater) to recommand to the Counc'_1 that t~ey apprave ~
the minor subdivinlnn xequest of Marc R. Adams, 8004 Red Oak Dr; the
i south lot being T3 x 231 and the north 10~ being 92.11 x 231, wlth a side j
yard variance of 1.8 feet on the garage pxisting on the north lot and v
the driveway. There will also be a 9.5 variance on the fi~on~age
; of the south ].ot. The petibioner will oubmit to the Council a correot
surveyor's certificate with these dimensione on it. ihe otarr ahould
"`'~ examine ~ahere the drlveway is situated and make eure that it etays ~
~~ a minimum oS 3 fRet from the eouth lot lirte, N ayes !
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D~~orot~h,~~ ~M. ~Hioharddon
ropeY rty n o v~ed~.-~443 Red Oak Dr
/~ Minor Subdivisipn (1 lot into 2)
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The lot now ie aFproximately 80 x 479. Applioant wiehea to m&ke two
lota; the weet lot fronCing tied oak Dr would be 81 x 239, anS the eaet
1ob faciag 8unnysSde Rd would be 81 x 234•
MSP (Mgakeben-Filanohard) to reaommend to the C:rnoil that they approve
bhe mittor eubdivieion bf Dorothy M. Riohardaon, d443 Red Oak Dr,
rcqueabing the property Go be aubdivided ir~co two lote, the east lot
being 81 x 234, west lot being 81 x 239, with $ foat utility easements
at the roar of each lot.
6 aYes
Hugh A. IIiakinson
~oper~y :nvo ve : 8068 Eastwood Dr
Code Interpretatien Appea7. ~;
Applioant requ~sts a permit L-o build a garage on the undeveloped ~ oF
hia lot. Ha stated thet he has two lote; h@ 11ves on the north y,
arid wanta to build a garage on bhe south ~. Zt ie Segally divided.
starr stated that he was denied a permit on the grounda that he would
not have a home on that lot.
Mr. Mackeben abated hha~ the question Se, if you hnve a lot ca~ you
buLd a garsga before you have a prinoiple build3ng? Staff replied
that the interpretation o:C the code and how the Commiasionere feel it
~ ehould read iu the question hare.
Coanoilman shelquiet etatAd that tha 2ega1 opinion from bhe attorney
should govern their aationa.
Mr. Fosa atated that• ha would not feel comPortable going againet hts
c~inion. Oounai7.ma,~ Sl~elquiat etata~ that it would probabiy be ~rYi
to reqaeat a wrlbten opinion from Atty Meyers.
MSY (Hsake-Fedor) to table the request of Hugh A. D1eki~scn, 8068
Eastwood Dr, so tha~c we may have staff request Ei~at AtCy Meyera ~rite
us a le$a7. opinion oancerning the code 3nterpretaCion of MVCC, Chp. 40,03,
sub. ~1 (5). 'Phe thing that precipiL•ated this request to Mr. Meyere
for his interpretation of tha nbove menLlonad aubdlv3sion is Chat
Mr. Dickineon requesbed to hava a garage bu32t on a lot in Mounda V7.aw.
We would like to heve Atty Meyer~s rasgonsa by the next Plannl.ng
rommission meuting on ootober 27, 1976.
6 ayge
Ms. Hurmeistar atatad that ahe thought bhe Planning Comml~bion ahauld
btske the initiabive and come up with a definiti~n oP e~ garage and an
acceesory building.
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T. W, Willmue
/"'~ roperEy nvolveds 268~ Couttty Rd H2
~ y Apt. aarage Faoillties (26 unite)
Applioent proposes ~o build a 26 unit garago faaility to be loaabed
in exisEing open park3ng lot.
Mr. Willmue etated Chat the whole pr~~got wae deeigned to aoaommodaCe
garagee. There would ba nr, dimenaional change. The oritioai dimeneion
is to and from the eL•reet. He hae residenta who want garagae, they aare
about th'eir po~aeasions. The north 4 garagen will bb +!aq~ ~or their
own malnCenanae equxpment. Thero will be no briok on the garage, they
wi11 be rough ceds: atained green. It w111 not af£ect the green area
of thn apartment aomplex a4 all. Furthex~, all lata are well lit.
Ms. Burmelater stated th2t the Gitch ie a hazard and the utaPS etnted
that the aomprehansive plan cuvers thle problem.
Mr. Willmus contSnued, atating thaC they feei t1~at the~~ w111 hQVe a
more stable residenay by pi•oviding theae garages. Mr. Fedor asked
about the fire chief and Mr. Willmuo replied that he said he had no
p:obl~m. Staff ststed bhat the fire ohief had been ooneulted and hsa
etated that the sisle may be wide enaugh. He Ptrele that if at a
latar dote the aisle is not gdequote, Che p~rking curb can be expanded
to give more w3dth Eo the ai~le.
r-~ ms. Haake stated that once they give him this one building with ei~les
~ ~ nf 19 Seet they sre setting a preoedenL.
~ Me. Burmelater asked, if we have required evoryone else ~o go 2~ feeL,
how can we do thisZ
Mr: Bedor eaid we ara not ~uet laoking at this one, we may ~e looking
at, 5 or 6 more.
,! M3P (Foss-Blanahard) to x•eaommend tio the Couneil and 3lreot the staff
~ to iasue a building permib to T. W. Willmue at 2685 County Rd H2,
to permit them to buS.ld a 26 unit garage Tacility in the ap~co tha~
~ they raqueatad here.
3 ayea
2 nays
1 abst
MA. Hurmeie~gr stated that ahe votad nay beaauee it ie going to be
a large quantity of bu3lding that is going bo take up a ioti of open
' spaoe. We will have ~ust one meae of buil.di.nge there.
MSP to ad~ourn st 11:30 pm.
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